View Full Version : FAST EFI BBC 1000HP kit
peetsjunkie
01-23-2009, 12:06 PM
Anyone on here have first hand experience with this kit FAST is selling? I'm still on the fence on running EFI with my 540BBC. Not sure the $4k spent on it balances out for me. 95% street driven with auto trans.
Here are a few concerns I have:
1. How loud is the fuel pump on this system? It looks like an Aeromotive pump, not sure which model.
2. What intake is used?
3. Can I piece together a system for less or same price that is better suited for my application?
Thanks for any input. Getting ready to pull the trigger soon.
Vegas69
01-23-2009, 12:13 PM
I am moderately interested in that kit as well. Probably not this year but maybe next:D
ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2009, 12:34 PM
The fuel pump on any 1000HP set up is going to make some noise. Yes we could piece togehter a custom kit for the same money, but this kit is pretty dialed in as it is. We also have the Accel complete kits either will serve you fine.
peetsjunkie
01-23-2009, 12:43 PM
Thanks for the info guys...
One other thing I was wondering about is throttle response with these large BBC motors with EFI. Are they neck snapping??? :unibrow:
ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2009, 04:00 PM
Yes big power they are. We run a couple high big blocks in house that are injected, both are pretty fricken fast!
BeCool68
01-23-2009, 07:41 PM
I have seriously thought the same and will probably purchase the FAST system very soon--the more i read the more i am impressed. You just don't see a lot of BB fuel injection cars. I have a 540 BB and look forward to the responsiveness that only fuel injection gives. I think a aluminum flywheel is on my list of goodies this year to help with a more responsive motor. I also like the idea of different timing options this system offers.
I currently run a 1050 Holley dominator that performs good most of the time. Greg
peetsjunkie
01-23-2009, 10:14 PM
I also like the fact the ECU can control various areas, ie kill AC compressor at WOT, adjust for cold/hot temps, adjust for ambient air temp, spark timing, and so on. No matter how good of a carb you have, it cannot compare to the EFI advantages. I hated the stinky smell of a pig-rich holley, to me it's worth spending 4k on not smelling like that. :lol:
I'm pretty much sold on this kit, I just need to figure out how long it would take me to get it installed and running :D
Vegas69
01-23-2009, 10:20 PM
If I wouldn't have just got my car reliable and reworked the fuel system I would be doing it tomorrow. I feel like I have to enjoy my labor for a while. I also like the idea of an aftermarket fabricated intake. Fuel injected big block is high on my priority list.
BBC69Camaro
01-24-2009, 05:21 AM
Planning on going with the Fast system for my big block. But I want to get my car on the road and all the bugs worked out first and to drive it a bit. But definitely on my list of upgrades.
ProdigyCustoms
01-24-2009, 07:15 AM
Installaion time, if you brought a running / driging carb car to us and we did the sway, we could do it in 2 days/ But ten again, we have done a few now and have ome experiance under our belt. BUT FAST has te best instructions of all the high end systems.
When ever your ready, look into a system from us, we hve some sweet deals
Frank,
Whats the going rate for a sbc setup...i'll install it:_paranoid
ProdigyCustoms
01-25-2009, 03:21 PM
Frank,
Whats the going rate for a sbc setup...i'll install it:_paranoid
more information required? How much of a kit do you need? Full conversion? how much horsepower? Let's start there.
Racehead
02-07-2009, 09:45 PM
I've been looking for any information on this exact kit for about 2 weeks now without success .... and here it is :yes:
Thanks
Bill
Adam68
02-08-2009, 03:03 AM
Installaion time, if you brought a running / driging carb car to us and we did the sway, we could do it in 2 days/ But ten again, we have done a few now and have ome experiance under our belt. BUT FAST has te best instructions of all the high end systems.
When ever your ready, look into a system from us, we hve some sweet deals
Hi Frank,
Would you see a decent RWHP increase from one of these fast kits? I currently have a 540BB with 305 cnc AFR heads Dart block 9.5-1 comp etc and it has a quick fuel carb which has been set up well. the motor made 700 flywheel and is making 471RWHP in my car in Australia a few weeks ago. I was looking for a way to get around 550-600 rwhp. the motor has been built for nos and it made 870 flywheel with a 150 shot but nos is illegal on street cars in Australia.
Regards
Adam
camcojb
02-08-2009, 08:50 AM
Hi Frank,
Would you see a decent RWHP increase from one of these fast kits? I currently have a 540BB with 305 cnc AFR heads Dart block 9.5-1 comp etc and it has a quick fuel carb which has been set up well. the motor made 700 flywheel and is making 471RWHP in my car in Australia a few weeks ago. I was looking for a way to get around 550-600 rwhp. the motor has been built for nos and it made 870 flywheel with a 150 shot but nos is illegal on street cars in Australia.
Regards
Adam
Torque (especially down low) will come up with an efi swap, but HP shouldn't be much different if at all, assuming the carb is sized and tuned correctly. What efi will give you is better driveability, better mileage, easier to make tuning changes, etc. If your engine made a true 700 hp on an engine dyno there must be something different in the car config to get such a large drop in power on a chassis dyno. Was it dynoed without any accessories, open exhaust, etc? It sounds like there's something different in the two setups, like it was dynoed with open headers or a large free-flowing exhaust and the car has restrictive mufflers and a small exhaust, or maybe a small restrictive air filter, etc.
Jody
Adam68
02-09-2009, 03:14 AM
Torque (especially down low) will come up with an efi swap, but HP shouldn't be much different if at all, assuming the carb is sized and tuned correctly. What efi will give you is better driveability, better mileage, easier to make tuning changes, etc. If your engine made a true 700 hp on an engine dyno there must be something different in the car config to get such a large drop in power on a chassis dyno. Was it dynoed without any accessories, open exhaust, etc? It sounds like there's something different in the two setups, like it was dynoed with open headers or a large free-flowing exhaust and the car has restrictive mufflers and a small exhaust, or maybe a small restrictive air filter, etc.
Jody
Thankyou for your feedback. The engine on the dyno had a 1 inch spacer under the carby and a electric water pump. The engine now has vintage air front runner set up with a normal pump and no spacer. It is driven through a t56 rockland standard gear box a mark williams tailshaft and currie tracklok rear end. In Australia our RWHP figures are always about 10% under the US due to a difference in some percentage allowance in the dynos here to over there. The car made 505hp rwhp in the same trim. I checked everything and we changed up and down jet power valves etc but the set up it had was a good as it would produce HP wise. I did leave the plugs in the car that were in it as they had been indexed and looked pretty well perfect. It is a very good engine and it is very healthy but i want another 100rwhp because a couple of my mates have blown cars and i want more power asperated. I thought about a procharger but i think that that will cause allot of messing around with the vintage air front runner set up. I could up the compression with different pistons???
camcojb
02-09-2009, 07:14 AM
gonna be tough to pick up 100 rwhp on an engine that's already making 700 hp n/a. Yes, a Procharger would easily do it depending on compression, but you'll likely lose the VA frontrunner. Upping the compression will pick it up, but not 100 rwhp. Nitrous is the easiest way to get there, and you wouldn't have to change any of your stuff.
Jody
Pantera EFI
02-09-2009, 07:15 PM
If there was a way to fit the L92 VVT into your BBC, then you could gain 100 HP.
You would need to fit/machine the camshaft, front cover, oil passages.
Then fit the L92 timing sprocket.
Some major work, though I have a plan.
Lance
Adam68
02-10-2009, 03:37 AM
If there was a way to fit the L92 VVT into your BBC, then you could gain 100 HP.
You would need to fit/machine the camshaft, front cover, oil passages.
Then fit the L92 timing sprocket.
Some major work, though I have a plan.
Lance
Hi Lance,
Sorry for asking the question but what is a L92 VVT? There was a guy named Lance that built my engine from califonian street machine. Do you know him?
camcojb
02-10-2009, 07:19 AM
Hi Lance,
Sorry for asking the question but what is a L92 VVT? There was a guy named Lance that built my engine from califonian street machine. Do you know him?
I think he's speaking about the variable valve timing setup.
Jody
peetsjunkie
02-10-2009, 11:40 AM
Still on the fence ..... just found out fellow contractors I work with just got let go....Not sure I want to spend the 4k now....cr@p
Racehead
02-10-2009, 05:19 PM
Still on the fence ..... just found out fellow contractors I work with just got let go....Not sure I want to spend the 4k now....cr@p
Is 4k the price for the 1000 hp BBC kit ? I PM'd Prodigy for a price but haven't gotten a response ?
ProdigyCustoms
02-10-2009, 06:28 PM
PMs are a horrible way to get quotes from me because I get so many PMs. Email always works best because I see that all day. Email me at
[email protected]
Pantera EFI
02-15-2009, 09:47 AM
Jody, your BS-3 should be able to command the L-92 VVT.
(Variable Valve Timing) soleniod.
I need more information about the shop, I'm also in
S. Calif.
I am working with Iker Marine on the BBC VVT front cover.
Howard Cams is helping me with the camshaft.
Lance
peetsjunkie
02-23-2009, 04:43 PM
:D Well I pulled the trigger on the EFI today..... :yes: :yes: Thanks Frank...
Let's hope it's not a nightmare to install......Need to figure out how big of a hole to cut into my firewall now that it's all smoothed out. :wow:
camcojb
02-23-2009, 04:50 PM
Jody, your BS-3 should be able to command the L-92 VVT.
(Variable Valve Timing) soleniod.
I need more information about the shop, I'm also in
S. Calif.
I am working with Iker Marine on the BBC VVT front cover.
Howard Cams is helping me with the camshaft.
Lance
yeah, I think you're working with a good friend of mine to do that for his twin turbo LS2 (Troy). Should be the best of the best, I just can't afford it right now.
Jody
camcojb
02-23-2009, 04:51 PM
:D Well I pulled the trigger on the EFI today..... :yes: :yes: Thanks Frank...
Let's hope it's not a nightmare to install......Need to figure out how big of a hole to cut into my firewall now that it's all smoothed out. :wow:
no nightmare, pretty basic really. You'll love it, Frank will take good care of you.
Jody
540 Fuel injected. Fast xfi video was second day of tunnig very rich, Rob rom Force Fuel did the final tune on the chasi dyno. Blew the left rear wheel at about 6600 rpm. AUCH We did the install very straight foward do not let all the wires scare you.
http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=8076
peetsjunkie
02-24-2009, 06:23 PM
no nightmare, pretty basic really. You'll love it, Frank will take good care of you.
Jody
You happen to know what size hole they require for the harness to come through the firewall? I might have to download the maneul.
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