ATS 50/50 Camaro [Archive] - Lateral-g Forums

Teetoe_Jones

11-20-2008, 05:27 PM

There is finally an end to long tale of what happened to 50/50. I moved the car out of my garage in August to a storage spot down the street. The plan was to un-clutter my shop, and get some good useable space in my house. I went to grab a mock up display there last night and to my surprise my unit no longer had a lock on it.

I bet you can guess what I'm about to say next.

http://i33.tinypic.com/xarmo2.jpg

So I roll up the sliding bay door to take peak and my heart sinks. 50/50 has been stolen. It looks like a bomb went off inside my storage unit. They took the car, the body kit, the HRE wheels, the drivetrain; everything but some old displays from SEMA, a tool box full of hardware and a few chairs. Even better than that was there is another 68 RS/SS sitting on a trailer OUTSIDE 14 feet from my unit that was left alone

http://i37.tinypic.com/260u34z.jpg

I called the police, who told me to come down and file a report (they wouldn't even send a unit over to dust for prints) called the storage space manager to have them review the security tapes and went home. Got a call this morning that it was stolen by flatbed over 3 weeks ago around 4pm in the afternoon. Even have pics of the truck and guys who took it. I have little hope that it will be recovered as anything but a shell, and I can kiss those HRE wheels good bye. Keep your eyes peeled though, and call my shop if you have seen or heard anything about it.

That car and period of my life is dead to me now. I don't really want it back anymore now that it has been ransacked and mistreated by yet another group of people.

From here on out just leave this car be. I don't want to talk about it ever again. Thanks for letting me vent.

Tyler

Van B

11-20-2008, 05:32 PM

Dude that really sucks. :(

Lemons

11-20-2008, 05:35 PM

Tyler,

I'm sorry to hear about that, it really breaks my heart. I could not imagine having my car stolen. I've heard nothing but good things about you, and no one deserves that. Again, I am really sorry, and I wish you the best.

Chris

formula98

11-20-2008, 05:45 PM

I was so happy to see your post until I opened it and read what had happened. My heart is still just below my stomach! I was going through some pictures that I got from Wayne Due (from years back) a couple of weeks ago and found pictures of your car and was going to ask you where you were at with it.

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss! Did you get the license of the truck? Man my heart goes out to you. I will keep an eye out for you and will get the word out through friends.

I can't tell you how bad I feel for you. I hope they catch the people responsible and they get what is coming to them.

Vegas69

11-20-2008, 05:47 PM

Sorry bro....same thing happened to my first 68. Storage unit and the lock was cut off. Never..ever put my car in one. If anybody does, make damn sure you drop it off late at night and don't tell a sole where it is. I know mine was an inside job.

Steve1968LS2

11-20-2008, 05:49 PM

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

:willy:

Suck's man... maybe it's for the best though, so you can move on. Still, it's not the way the story should have ended :(

rich-allen

11-20-2008, 05:50 PM

tjbruning

11-20-2008, 05:53 PM

Dude that really sucks. :(

x2... :rolleyes: :mad:

rocketrod

11-20-2008, 05:55 PM

Dude that really sucks. :(

X3...

Autokraft

11-20-2008, 06:00 PM

Damn Tyler! That really sucks:( I hope they catch those fricken scumbags. I hate crooks. Sorry to hear this news.

Teetoe_Jones

11-20-2008, 06:02 PM

What a gut wrencher!

Obviously someone seen you put it in the storage unit. It's either someone connected to the storage place or someone with a unit next to yours that watched you bring it in. No other possible way for someone to know.

Does the storage place have insurance?
Either way, I hope you get some money back.

Rich

The truck had Cali plates on it, but the bed of the trailer blocked the numbers. The Insurance at the unit only covers my property up to $10K. The wheels were $7K by themselves not to mention the body, the chassis, the C5 suspension and LSX/T56 etc.

I'm looking at Ebay auctions right now for the wheels as well as craigslist for anything that might be coming off my car.

Life goes on I guess. I'm still not fully grasping the situation; I'm in a slight bit of shock.

Tyler

awr68

11-20-2008, 06:04 PM

That is anything but cool! :(

James OLC

11-20-2008, 06:11 PM

Like I said on the phone earlier my friend, anything I can do to help just let me know. It sucks that some **** would do something like this.

98ssnova

11-20-2008, 06:12 PM

Man Tyler this sucks I remember when I frist was looking at getting into PT and 50/50 was one of the cars that made me want to go in this direction. REALLY SORRY BRO:(

skatinjay27

11-20-2008, 06:27 PM

damn!!!

i saw the post and thought cool the 69 must have sold and now theres room to start back up on 50/50 then opened and sat here with an open jaw for the last couple minutes... im so sorry tyler, thats a horrible thing to happen to such a good person. something about that car attracts just attracts trouble for you... again so sorry to hear this crap!

monza

11-20-2008, 06:44 PM

Dude that is the worst! Remember our Karma talk those guys are f**ked!

speedfreak

11-20-2008, 06:50 PM

So sorry to here this!

Nothing worse than a thief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rich-allen

11-20-2008, 06:54 PM

ProdigyCustoms

11-20-2008, 06:59 PM

It is going to be real hard for anyone to do anything with it, it is just a little easy to spot. Maybe someone will finsih it and you will get it back!

Good luck man. And you sounded like you were in such a good mood when we talked earlier!

Spiffav8

11-20-2008, 07:04 PM

I would bet it's someone connected to that storage place.

For the cops to not dust for prints tells you how much they really give a ****.
I would call the watch commander and demand they dusted for prints.

The only good thing is you and 50/50 are so well know in the industry. It's not going to be easy for someone to sell the car whole or in parts.

I highly doubt these guys are professionals.

Rich

Dusting for prints isn't normal procedure. Don't confuse TV with real life guys. As far as being directed to a sub station to file a report is standard. It sucks, but the crime is in the past and the police have more important matters to attend to.

V8TV

11-20-2008, 07:05 PM

Tyler, that really sucks bad. We'll be watching eBay and Craig's list like hawks for recognizable parts.

Sorry man.

- Kevin

JayR

11-20-2008, 07:38 PM

I am so sorry, Dude. I know how long you've been pouring your heart into it and as sad as it was to read your last sentences, you're already coming out the other side.

XcYZ

11-20-2008, 07:48 PM

Tyler, is there a reward?

Mick Mc

11-20-2008, 08:08 PM

I think I saw a truck with cali plates in lost wages and it had a trailer

I think it had a big trailer.

Mick

Mick Mc

11-20-2008, 08:10 PM

How dry is it in Lost Wages?

Mick

Mick Mc

11-20-2008, 08:25 PM

I was looking at the "67 Camaro at IronWorks" post

post #178, fourth picture down, what's that in the background?

Mick

Vegas69

11-20-2008, 08:33 PM

We've been snookered

Flash68

11-20-2008, 08:35 PM

Rodger. How could you borrow Tyler's Camaro and not tell him? Don't you have enough Camaros in your shop right now?

Mick Mc

11-20-2008, 08:40 PM

They took the car, the body kit, the HRE wheels, the drivetrain;

Even have pics of the truck and guys who took it. I have little hope that it will be recovered as anything but a shell, and I can kiss those HRE wheels good bye. Keep your eyes peeled though, and call my shop if you have seen or heard anything about it.

That car and period of my life is dead to me now. I don't really want it back anymore now that it has been ransacked and mistreated by yet another group of people.

From here on out just leave this car be. I don't want to talk about it ever again. Thanks for letting me vent.

Tyler

"Another group of people"

"Keep your eyes peeled though"

I'm peeled for another group of people

Mick

FaBrycation

11-20-2008, 10:25 PM

dude that sucks. sorry to here that man. i'll definitely going to keep my eyes open for it! that would be like getting my honda stolen out of my garage http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/1sick4dr/NiseiWeekend174.jpg

i can't imagine getting her stolen. sorry man.

VP23271

11-20-2008, 10:26 PM

Tyler, that just sucks! Times are strange when thieves are stealing cars that are not up and running yet! How in the hell would they know to look in your storage unit? Plus another Camaro is in plain open sight and they don't touch that one! Man this stuff just pisses me off!

Bowtieracing

11-20-2008, 10:58 PM

Sad story..I remember when this project started many years ago in camaros.net...those were the days...;) What is the idea of those storages at the first place if they are not even guarded ???

andrewmp6

11-21-2008, 02:48 AM

It sucks your car got stolen but the cops never dust for prints unless a person is hurt or killed.Stolen cars they don't care about insurance is for that.

tones2SS

11-21-2008, 04:19 AM

MAN!!!!
Sorry for the loss my man. There are a lot of scumbags out there. I cannot believe they had the balls to rip it off in broad daylight?!?
Sounds like they were either watching you load the bay or it was an inside job??:(
GOOD LUCK with everything.:lateral:

fesler

11-21-2008, 04:32 AM

Tyler I can not imagine what you are going through and I fully understand not wanted to talk about it. Two things, I hope you had insurance on the car or maybe go after the storage unit as they have it on tape. I hope you can find the truck your self and have a little fun with the guys with the tools you have left over. People that do this stuff should be shot and removed from our country.

Hold your head high and move on as you stated. The only thing that will make this any better is to get the car back complete or catch the guys that did it.

Sales@Dutchboys

11-21-2008, 06:24 AM

Holy **** man, I just dont know what to say...that is just unbelievable....wow..I wish you luck...and keep us updated..

Paul

svp

11-21-2008, 07:39 AM

Man....Sorry to hear this. I know I was pissed at the world when my old Mustang was stolen from the guy I SOLD it to....I had the car for 13 years and turned every bolt on it and someone stole it and I know they cut it up. In my case I still watch for parts as the interior was a one-off and there are many other parts on the car that can be identified as I marked them. The car even had LoJack and an alarm....It was 2 years last month. Even though I no longer owned the car I had such a personal attachment to it that I'd probably severly hurt someone if I found the parts on their car. I felt that way and no longer owned the car....it's a personal violation for a car guy to have a car stolen from him...you've put a lot of yourself into the car.

Someone HAD to know it was there!!! There is no other way around it. Hopefully there becomes a happy ending here but in the meantime many people watching for parts is the best set of eyes you can have.

I can understand wanting to be done with it but I have a hard time letting a thief get away with something.....thieves are dirtbags and deserve to be beaten within an inch of their lives!

Good luck!

Payton King

11-21-2008, 07:56 AM

Than I am truely sorry. If it is, good joke.

If it is not, check with your homeowner's insurance carrier. If the car is in parts it is not considered a car...it is considered personal property. The car itself would not be covered, but if the wheels and motor/trans were not attached to the car, they would be or any other piece not attached.

Personal property is covered anywhere in the world...including that storage unit.

AJSZR2326

11-21-2008, 08:00 AM

sorry to hear that ,if they catch them i hope they cut off their balls. i'd get a lawyer and sue the storage place. they might only cover you for 10k but i'm sure they have a larger liability policy you could go after for negligence in not providing better security. i put lojack in mine.

130fe

11-21-2008, 08:06 AM

Tyler, that sucks!!!! Hope you get the guys that took it.

deuce_454

11-21-2008, 08:46 AM

that sucks large ones.... big time.. for some reason i feel its almost worse to have a project stolen than a car... its ike they not only take the vehiecle, but all the dreams and plans too... if you have some miles on the car you can atleast look back at the satisfaction of finishing it, anyway.. like everyone else ill keep my eyes and ears open...
to bad its not just on overhaulin....

mazspeed

11-21-2008, 09:09 AM

Not this again. Another theft. There has to be much harsher laws to prevent this kind of thing. I guess this serves as a warning in this economy that these things will keep happening as more and more people get desperate. The police don't seem to care about stolen cars anymore. And this is why I have guns and don't ever intend to aim for the legs. Sorry to hear about this Tyler.

Teetoe_Jones

11-21-2008, 09:52 AM

So the key code pad camera that my storage space has to let people in and out got a good shot of the guy as he was walking out. Hope someone recognizes him.

http://i35.tinypic.com/1z1s7cl.jpg

Also Bakersfield Police Department called this morning with a guy trying to sell some old scrap metal that looks like car parts. They detained him and kept the scrap as evidence. Might be a good lead.....

Tyler

96z28ss

11-21-2008, 10:10 AM

Oh man,
I wish I had pictures or video of the guy you broke into my house last week.
I would be knock the guy out if I saw him. Tie him up bring him to an empty warehouse and let the torture begin untill he told me where the car was.
Then I would take his car and truck take it to a scrap yard and have it shredded or crushed.

Im not bitter am I

Teetoe_Jones

11-21-2008, 10:17 AM

Mr. Beauregard,

We have recovered part of the vehicle that you reported stolen. There is no visible VIN anywhere on the car, but the pictures you provided are a match. We have towed it to our impound lot awaiting your arrival. Please contact the impound lot officer at 1-661-XXX-XXXX extension 131. Please bring a copy of the title, the incident report you filed in Las Vegas, and a photo ID to reclaim your property. I'm including a picture of the recovered item.

http://i35.tinypic.com/s6ium8.jpg

Looks like I might have a good weekend afterall.

Tyler

Blown353

11-21-2008, 10:21 AM

Tyler, where was the photo taken? Did they say? It almost looks like another fab shop...

(those with keen eyes might want to read post #26...)

JKnight

11-21-2008, 10:28 AM

Well played Mr. Beauregard, well played...:captain:

11-21-2008, 10:29 AM

Good deal, Tyler.

This sh*t has got to stop!

Do I see the HRE wheel turned backwards?

What was the guys name? Do you know him? How did he know about your car/stuff?

96z28ss

11-21-2008, 10:33 AM

WOW!

Congrats!!!!!!!!!

Were they trying to make a new chassis for it?

DRJDVM's '69

11-21-2008, 10:39 AM

I recognize that guy!!! He was snooping around my Cuda a couple of months ago.....

tjbruning

11-21-2008, 10:40 AM

Teetoe_Jones

11-21-2008, 10:55 AM

LOLZ.

So this was obviously a joke. Funny to some, others not so much.

Just in case anyone is skimming and not reading each post:

The 50/50 Camaro was not stolen. It is at Ironworks Speed and Kustom.

I hope I didn't piss too many people off with my little 'Overhaulin' type story. The pic I posted is of Rodger Lee, owner of Ironworks. He picked up 50/50 while out at the SEMA show, and he is going to breathe new life into the car. He and I had the idea to tell people who ask about it that it was stolen, so we ran with it. It picked up more steam than I thought it would in such a short time, I even saw mass emails circulating about it already. For that I apologize. We have a great community here, tons of people willing to help out a stranger; I didn't mean to decive, just wanted to have a little fun with a project that at times got the best of me.

The first hint of my car going to Ironworks actually came out in Rich Allen's thread. Rodger slipped my car into the background of one of his updates. Brent Dupont, Rich Allen, Mick etc picked up on it rather quickly, but few others did. Here is the post for reference:
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=176433&postcount=178

The plan is to cut out the entire chassis and start over. Ironworks will be redoing the front and rear chassis, body and sheetmetal.

Ok. I have confessed. Ready for my flaming and public beating.

Tyler

DOOM

11-21-2008, 11:02 AM

solved

DOOM

11-21-2008, 11:05 AM

Oh MAN I was going to say that but I did'nt want to make lite of the situation!!! Man this is classic WOW:lol: :cheers: :thumbsup:
Mario

wiedemab

11-21-2008, 11:16 AM

I wondered, but damn - Nice One!

You had me fooled. Some people were getting seriously distraught. If you had let this go long enough, Rodger may have ended up in Police custody. :_paranoid

Vegas69

11-21-2008, 11:21 AM

Best part was it was figured out on page 3 but it kept going.:D Good one man. You know payback is a bitch right?

Porterbuilt

11-21-2008, 11:23 AM

There's been a few other sitings of this same guy.

http://www.cryptozoology.com/cryptids/images/sasquatch01.jpg

Glad it's all a hoax.

96z28ss

11-21-2008, 11:25 AM

You couldn't wait till April 1st!!

Man with all the break-ins happening and my house getting broken in to its not funny. On the other hand it was a good prank you got alot of people with it.

tones2SS

11-21-2008, 01:01 PM

You got me man!!!!
All is good!:cheers: :cheers:

svp

11-21-2008, 01:10 PM

Got me too....at times I wondered early on but It's one of those things you don't want to call B.S. on if true as that would only upset the owner.

ironworks

11-21-2008, 01:30 PM

Wow I'm away from the computer for few days at the drags in Vegas and look what happens. Just wait until you see what we have done.....

Oh and Frank, Thanks your one to talk.....HAHA

On a Side note I saw Mike moran run a 6.15 at 244 last night, That is hauling the mail.

Rodger

skatinjay27

11-21-2008, 02:15 PM

yea i made my post and not even a minute later i said wait... didnt I see...
had to go back to rich's thread to double check!lol

lhkustoms

11-21-2008, 03:11 PM

well at least your weekends off to a better start hope you get all your stuff back hahaha

Steve1968LS2

11-21-2008, 10:05 PM

I say we go steal 50/50 and then when Tyler posts about it being really stolen we don't believe him.. lol

Karma can be a bitch ya know.. ;)

lhkustoms

11-21-2008, 10:16 PM

I say we go steal 50/50 and then when Tyler posts about it being really stolen we don't believe him.. lol

Karma can be a bitch ya know.. ;)

X2 :thumbsup:

tyoneal

11-21-2008, 11:20 PM

Bowtieracing

11-21-2008, 11:23 PM

Great news Tyler!!!!!!!!:cheers: Old war horse is still a live :thumbsup:

tyoneal

11-21-2008, 11:37 PM

Tyler:

I'm real glad you didn't lose your car, however please don't do this again. There are many of us here that have never met each other, but we share common goals and values, and would gladly help each other get through a catastrophy like this.

I just ordered some parts though you, and I was looking for something else to buy to make your loss a little bit easier.

Once again, I am really glad 50/50 is ok, but this is tough on some of the people who really empathis with those who are really trying to get through a hard time.

Thanks for spilling the beans before it went on to long.

I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but I just thought I would mention it.

Now that I said that, Can you update my order from ATS? I have everything I need for the next addition to the car except the lower control arms for the coil overs, the ATS Coil over kit and the Penskes.

Email me when you can.

Thanks,

Ty O'Neal

rich-allen

11-22-2008, 08:19 AM

I rolled off my couch laughing when you posted the picture of Rodger supposedly at the key pad :rofl:

rjardy

11-22-2008, 11:14 AM

It sucks your car got stolen but the cops never dust for prints unless a person is hurt or killed.Stolen cars they don't care about insurance is for that.

So very false and untrue.

Rybar

11-22-2008, 01:49 PM

Tyler you Bastage!!! :mad: I was freaking out reading the thread and then finally realized the truth!! Don't ever do this again otherwise you'll get a couple of smacks!! :willy:

On a good note, Sooooooooo Glad 50/50 is getting back on track! :thumbsup: It was one of my inspirations for sure! :D

Sweet deal bud, can't wait to crack a beer with you next time in Vegas! :cheers:

lil427z

11-22-2008, 03:39 PM

Tyler you Bastage!!! :mad: I was freaking out reading the thread and then finally relaized the truth!! Don't ever do this again otherwise you'll get a couple of smacks!! :willy:

On a good note, Sooooooooo Glad 50/50 is getting back on track! :thumbsup: It was one of my inspirations for sure! :D

Sweet deal bud, can't wait to crack a beer with you next time in Vegas!
couple of smacks hell lets beat him. :lol: rick k:

[email protected]

11-24-2008, 08:09 AM

lol how funny.

Teetoe_Jones

11-24-2008, 12:02 PM

Alrighty Boys and Girls. The death threats have started to become less frequent over the weekend, and I feel I can now reward your understanding of my twisted humor with a short story and a ton of pics.

Those who are not aware of my (never-ending-never-finished) Project 50/50 Camaro- here is the cliff notes:

Sept 1999- Car is sent to Wayne Due's Chassis shop in Maryland, WA for a complete tube chassis build based on a C5 corvette.
Mar 2002- chassis is completed and sent to Tustin, CA for carbon Fiber body kit prototyping.
April 2003- car is rescued from crooked body kit shop and delivered to secondary garage for completion of body molds.
Feb 2004- Car is again rescued from 2nd crooked body kit garage and trailed home. All bare steel is covered in rust, vehicle condition is poor.
Feb 2004-October 2008- Car sits in garage under car cover. I try to forget about all the money & time lost on project and wince every time people bring up my failed car on the internet.
Nov 2008- car is trailer to Ironworks in Bakersfield for some modifications to the sheetmetal and rollcage.

So there is the VERY condensed version. It could go on and on for almost 4 pages, some good humored times, some slit your wrist times, some kill everyone within a 3 mile radius times.

Rodger is one of the few people I trust for my personal projects. We met in 2006 and I just knew that this man had talent and determination. Seeing the work come out of his shop for the past 2 years and the numerous 2 hour phone calls we've had discussing our ideas, Rodger suggested I let him have a crack at the car.

He 'stole' it from my storage space during the week of the 08 SEMA show and took it back to Bakersfield. When it arrived the roll cage was promptly cut out of the vehicle. I'll show you why in a few posts....

Here is the car as it sat under the car cover for the past 4 years. All the brown is surface rust from being outside near the ocean for over a year.

Engine setback and firewall:
http://i33.tinypic.com/2z8uu6r.jpg

Rear transaxle cover, rear main roll cage hoop and floor:
http://i34.tinypic.com/j96ek4.jpg

Engine compartment with front down bars that don't clear the tires under full lock:
http://i35.tinypic.com/w21yfd.jpg

So it needs a slight re do in a few spots. No big deal. More to follow....

Tyler

Teetoe_Jones

11-24-2008, 12:17 PM

The roll cage. It was built to standards not completely approved by any racing sanctioning body. One of the reasons for not passing tech would be this little gem:

http://i37.tinypic.com/j6rlfn.jpg

Yes. That is indeed an entire Sharpie marker stuffed into the non-notched-grand-canyon-sized gap of the tube joint. That is just one of many slight blunders of fabrication that went into my $14K chassis and roll cage.
Other fun facts include:

Inner frame too narrow to fit an actual exhaust system.
Front down bars hit both front tires when turning.
Frame rails made of 2x4 and 3x3 .120 wall metal (tank chassis)
Front A pillar down tubes leave under 10 inches of room for 3 pedals
Large gaps in joints of roll cage
Sheetmetal doubled up in most places for strength (tank floor)
Chassis could be built lighter and stronger with even lower ride height.

Here are more cool pics from the cage:

Don't worry about the MIG wire, it will add strength over time.
http://i34.tinypic.com/v4sbi0.jpg

What?!? Seriously? Come the 'F' on....
http://i35.tinypic.com/2hmodio.jpg

How does this get the thumbs up to be shipped to a client?

http://i34.tinypic.com/23wjpl0.jpg

Frame pics next...

Tyler

syborg tt

11-24-2008, 12:26 PM

Eak :(

Teetoe_Jones

11-24-2008, 12:27 PM

Tank frame by Wayne. None of you can tell me that Wayne didn't build it strong enough. He used some serious wall thickness on the frame rails and added beef like it was going out of style. The car was a bit over weight for my standards, so it got put on a diet.

The 50/50 Camaro before it goes onto the frame table for its new chassis:

http://i38.tinypic.com/2wm2mja.jpg

Here is the M1A1 Abrams C5 chassis:

http://i37.tinypic.com/ziwsns.jpg

It had to be a bitch to cut that thing out in one piece. I'm surprised they were able to do so. If anyone would like it, make me an offer.

http://i35.tinypic.com/212hg5g.jpg

Rodger and his crew have done a tube chassis once before and took some lessons from them to create this new tube frame. This is the rear. The front will be very similar. I think he shed 50% of the cars weight just by making a new frame for it.

http://i36.tinypic.com/vxc01u.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/bvqbr.jpg

Tyler

Teetoe_Jones

11-24-2008, 12:32 PM

So here is the money shot for me. I've never had a chance to put the HRE 542R wheels on the car before as I never purchased any tires. I plan to race this car so I figured get some tires that will do me right on the road courses.

I picked up some Michelin road race slicks from a former LeMans C5R Corvette to fir the 18x12 and 18x9.5 HRE wheels. Rodger mocked them up on the frame table now that the car is on it. Rocker to ground is 6.5 inches. Roof height will be about 47.5 inches from the ground.

http://i34.tinypic.com/28vx5dc.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/20rwzrq.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/24v60hz.jpg

That is all as of Today. Progress will be updated as I get pics from Rodger.

Tyler

DOOM

11-24-2008, 12:35 PM

Tyler
Please tell me that those welds were just tacks waiting ot be finished,and not the finished product:faint: $14.000.00!!!!!!
Mario

RobG

11-24-2008, 12:48 PM

http://i34.tinypic.com/23wjpl0.jpg

"Cut twice, measure once...that's my motto" :wow:

The sad thing is how many other cars are out there with that kind of build quality? Scary.

Looks like the car is finally in some competant hands Tyler. Good Luck with it.

Vegas69

11-24-2008, 01:58 PM

I think I would have crushed it or hired someone to take it out in the desert for target practice judging by the photos. That roll bar is etrocious not to mention poor design. You need a loop bar behind the seat for your long ass legs. That is a crazy project...third time is definitely the charm. :thumbsup:

Rybar

11-24-2008, 02:56 PM

So will it be done in 2009 some time? 10 years beats my 7 :lol:

Looks like she's in good hands now bud :thumbsup:

nvr2fst

11-24-2008, 07:30 PM

Tyler
Please tell me that those welds were just tacks waiting ot be finished,and not the finished product:faint: $14.000.00!!!!!!
Mario

Even if it was just tacks I would have never accepted the notching to begin with (wait what notching!!!) Tyler, at least you got to see there work prior to the welds hiding it all.
Good to hear you blew off the dust and put it in good hands.
Dave

novanutcase

11-24-2008, 07:58 PM

Actually the picture is not of Rodger Lee and the car isn't at Ironworks!

This is the bastard that stole Tylers car!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/150px-Mrincredible.jpg

John

awr68

11-24-2008, 08:06 PM

Tyler, I know this build has been anything but fun....most of the time, so I'm VERY happy to see it in good hands and being done right this time!

One of the best things is now we can ask you how the project is going...without you reaching for the Pepto-Bismol!! :captain:

rich-allen

11-25-2008, 06:13 AM

I know it feels good to see progress on your project.

It sucks when you only have time for other peoples dreams egh?

I like those wheels too.

Rich

clill

11-25-2008, 06:39 AM

And to think this started as a nice #'s matching SS 396...

Stuart Adams

11-25-2008, 06:45 AM

And to think this started as a nice #'s matching SS 396...

It did?

DRJDVM's '69

11-25-2008, 09:14 AM

So all the cage and frame were done by Wayne Due ?? Damn..... and he makes such a nice 1st gen frame....

cam68

11-25-2008, 11:00 AM

sad story.. when I see first time a picture of 50/50 camaro I want my camaro also C5 taill lights and im not sure but maybe i have these first..??

Teetoe_Jones

11-25-2008, 11:02 AM

And to think this started as a nice #'s matching SS 396...

Whoa there brother. This was not a numbers matching car. Big block RS/SS car sure; but no original drive train. Besides I don't plan on selling it; I'll cut it up as many times as I want to. Don't you have 70 examples of numbers matching Camaros in your garage?

Tyler

tones2SS

11-25-2008, 04:15 PM

The HRE's look good with the car.:thumbsup:

Nutsy

11-25-2008, 05:23 PM

Tyler, i am really happy that your project is finally moving forward! I wish i could say the same for mine...

Keep the updates coming!

Trev

98ssnova

11-25-2008, 05:55 PM

Wow what a turn around glad to see 50/50 back on track. Congrats Tyler :thumbsup:

Flash68

11-25-2008, 07:00 PM

Tyler, maybe I missed it, but what exactly does "50/50" signify?

awr68

11-25-2008, 07:02 PM

Tyler, maybe I missed it, but what exactly does "50/50" signify?

A perfectly balanced car....I believe.

Flash68

11-25-2008, 07:09 PM

A perfectly balanced car....I believe.

Well that makes sense! :thumbsup:

clill

11-25-2008, 07:10 PM

"Don't you have 70 examples of numbers matching Camaros in your garage?"

Uh, I have 1.

rwhite692

11-25-2008, 08:11 PM

So all the cage and frame were done by Wayne Due ?? Damn..... and he makes such a nice 1st gen frame....

Can't see Wayne doing tube joints like that (unless maybe his intent was to kill Tyler) Did you guys separate on good terms LOL

Tyler didn't you stuff that wheelbarrow into the firewall? I remember thinking that was a neat idea...

Teetoe_Jones

11-25-2008, 10:45 PM

"Don't you have 70 examples of numbers matching Camaros in your garage?"

Uh, I have 1.

I know, I'm just teasing you. Is it Rallye Green?

Tyler, maybe I missed it, but what exactly does "50/50" signify?

At the time I thought of it 50/50 was to mean the car was 1/2 Camaro and 1/2 Corvette with a 50/50 weight distribution.

Tyler didn't you stuff that wheelbarrow into the firewall? I remember thinking that was a neat idea...

Not me. Wayne did all sheetmetal cage, and frame work. That is indeed a widened wheel barrow as a firewall cover. You can even see the two bolt holes where the handles used to attach to it.

Tyler

ironworks

11-25-2008, 10:56 PM

Hay Tyler if you lucky we might have some pics for ya that will really give you something to be thankful for. We merged the shop car 63 chassis with your suspension on the table today and will slide the jig under the car tommorrow. Then look out it will go really fast from they with those 6 sticks of 4130 we got today.

XcYZ

11-26-2008, 05:27 AM

dhutton

11-26-2008, 05:37 AM

I know, I'm just teasing you. Is it Rallye Green?
Tyler

Funny how that color takes so much abuse. I had a 69 Z28 that was rally green with white stripes. I've liked that color combo ever since I saw it on a Z28 back when they were new. I did a frame off on it and people would always ask me why I painted it green.

Don

clill

11-26-2008, 07:02 AM

"I know, I'm just teasing you. Is it Rallye Green?"

I don't have the Rally Green L89 anymore. It is the 67 Pace car but technically it is kinda #'s matching because it has the drivetrain that was installed at GM engineering. Not quite assembly line but close.

ironworks

11-26-2008, 07:24 AM

There's no way that cage is an out the door, finished product from Wayne. No way. Something is fishy here. It looks to me like a 'proof of concept' excersize or something quickly put together to keep the body held together when the floor was cut out or something tacked in so the car could be transported.

Are you being honest with us, Tyler? You already made up a story at the start of this thread, is this just more of the same?

Scott Trust me this was a completed product, All of the unwelded sections were in area that were inaccesible. The big gap was on the front roll cage down bars. When we started on this project Tyler and I had no idea it would get to this point. From our experience of fixing other peoples crap it seems like these guy were manufacturing guys, not one off fabricators. There were many more issues that were not right that go with the poor roll cage design. The wheel base was off by about .375 of an inch, it is really noticible in a 67-68 due to the round fenderwell openings. Figuring out the wheelbase on this should be pretty easy 107 = Camaro, 104.5 = C5 vette, if I lengthen the torque tube 3.5" we should be on the dot, not 3.125. There was alot of craziness going on with the floor, being double paneled for no apprent reason. We had to cut the torque tube hoops out of the car to be able to remove the torque tube, there was no way to get it out to replace the clutch. When we cut the hoops out the frame srung about .5 of an inch. The lower suspnsion cradles were about .375 -.5 of an inch off from square. It got so bad I called Tyler and told him I had started tube chassis deal laying around, that I would put up to just stop the madness.

So hopefully later today you will see the results of just starting over.

68protouring454

11-26-2008, 07:39 AM

sounds like a great project roger.
btw, the camaro wheelbase is 108.
can't wait to watch this project come to life

XcYZ

11-26-2008, 07:50 AM

With your fabrication, Rodger, it's going to be badass! Looking forward to updates. :cheers:

ironworks

11-26-2008, 07:50 AM

I'm still on basic math. 2+3=5 or 104.5+3.5=108 yeah I don't have that many fingers and toes. I guess I could have had all the guys in my shop take there shoes off but it is cold the morning, like 45 degrees.

Thanks

68protouring454

11-26-2008, 07:55 AM

ironworks

11-26-2008, 07:56 AM

With your fabrication, Rodger, it's going to be badass! Looking forward to updates. :cheers:

Well so far Erik has done all the fab, He does alot of our tube bending and rolling work. He did the rollcage in Rich's Camaro, and alot of work on Mick's wedge sectioned chevelle chassis.

Rodger

ironworks

11-26-2008, 07:58 AM

man you cali girlys, 40 degrees, hell we got 6 inches of snow yesterday and rain, the day before is was 5 degrees when i woke up.
hell, i would love to be a cali girly for that weather
can't wait to follow this one

I figured that would get you all fired up, thinking we should be wearing shorts or something. We have no seen snow in 8 years. If it gets down into the 20's NBC says it is a national disaster.

68protouring454

11-26-2008, 08:11 AM

lol, you know me.
:lateral:

novanutcase

11-26-2008, 12:01 PM

Well so far Erik has done all the fab, He does alot of our tube bending and rolling work. He did the rollcage in Rich's Camaro, and alot of work on Mick's wedge sectioned chevelle chassis.

Rodger

That guy must have a sixth sense about spring back. Anything I see him bend just lands perfectly!:thumbsup:

John

Rybar

11-26-2008, 12:43 PM

I'm so happy to see this project on the right track. Tyler deserves it.

Seems like alot of long term projects are moving along or finished this year.

Scott's 69
Larry's 68
Anthony's 68
Ned's cuda
Now Tyler's 50-50

I am sure I am missing a few more too.

awr68

11-26-2008, 02:25 PM

Yeah, you can say the build style has been around a few years when the long term projects are heading for the finish line!! :lol:

Teetoe_Jones

11-26-2008, 05:01 PM

Ironworks is SLOW. They already have the rear suspension 80% done. They have had the car for 2 weeks.

Old T56 transaxle and rear frame.
http://www.t56kit.com/company/50/50/chassis/WD25.jpg

New T56 transaxle and rear frame assembly.
http://i37.tinypic.com/1zml6ba.jpg

More of the old config:
http://www.t56kit.com/company/50/50/chassis/WD26.jpg

And the new:
http://i35.tinypic.com/10ndfts.jpg

More pics coming....

Tyler

Teetoe_Jones

11-26-2008, 05:01 PM

Old chassis again:
http://www.t56kit.com/company/50/50/chassis/WD11.jpg

More new:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2iaq5j9.jpg

So the new chassis is wicked. We are thinking about doing the cantilever style coil over mounts in the front and rear. I'll keep you updated as I get pics to post.

Tyler

rich-allen

11-26-2008, 05:17 PM

Looking great Tyler!

I think that slick tube style frame they make is going to catch on.

Rich

Avgasman

11-26-2008, 06:52 PM

Oh boy, it will be a street driven race car in the end.

Better get your drive on Tyler:

http://www.springmountainmotorsports.com/forms/smbrochure-front.pdf

muggz

11-26-2008, 09:09 PM

Oh Tyler you had me there at the start then did a 180 degree flip!! :lol:
Car is looking good mate!

Cheers & Beers!!

Bowtieracing

11-26-2008, 11:11 PM

Oh i am really happy to see this old war horse moving forward. I remember the old days when tyler was teetoe and that c5 trans was shiny :D

HWY Nova

11-27-2008, 02:01 AM

Looking great Tyler!

I think that slick tube style frame they make is going to catch on.

Rich

............ I AGREE!

--Eric

JohnC

11-27-2008, 05:09 AM

Chassis looks great, Tyler! Congrats! :thumbsup: :cheers:

John

cam68

11-27-2008, 07:49 AM

do you put a vette taill lights to camaro?
i have..

Nutsy

12-04-2008, 10:04 AM

Updates please Tyler!!! :woot:

tones2SS

12-04-2008, 10:15 AM

Updates please Tyler!!! :woot:

YES YES!!!:thumbsup:

Teetoe_Jones

12-04-2008, 11:26 AM

Front cradle, engine and control arms laid in place on the chassis table:

http://i33.tinypic.com/vrsd1x.jpg

Rear bracing to keep the shell from flexing. Rear transaxle in place and suspension tacked up:

http://i38.tinypic.com/jp8m7t.jpg

Drivers side door- looking in where the dash once lived. You can see the boxed in rocker panels, and tube frame merging toward the front.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2ey7ur8.jpg

Tyler

Steve68

12-04-2008, 11:52 AM

Looks great Tyler, keep the pics coming,

XcYZ

12-04-2008, 01:43 PM

Nice, I can't wait to see what Rodger does with frame.

tones2SS

12-04-2008, 02:17 PM

Man, this car is gonna be rigid.
Should be great for traction.:cheers:

MtotheIKEo

12-04-2008, 03:17 PM

Just caught up. Im amazed at what people will release to customers when building a cage. Ignoring the safety factor and even the fact that you cant see it, I would be too embarrassed with the finished product to let it go out. Looks like you are in good hands now.

Question about the rear frame. Are the front upper control arm mounts going to stay single shear?

Teetoe_Jones

12-04-2008, 03:37 PM

Question about the rear frame. Are the front upper control arm mounts going to stay single shear?

Nope. They will be double shear every where. They didn't put the plate in there yet.

Tyler

Ketzer

12-04-2008, 03:38 PM

Question about the rear frame. Are the front upper control arm mounts going to stay single shear?

Seems like I remember on another build they did there was this neat little eccentric type thingy for suspension adjustments. Definately double shear. Wait till you see it, so cool!:cool:

Jeff-

MtotheIKEo

12-04-2008, 04:02 PM

Nope. They will be double shear every where. They didn't put the plate in there yet.

Tyler

That what I was figuring. :cool:

Mick Mc

12-04-2008, 11:17 PM

Tyler
Thanks for the comparison photos, placed one after another.

The comparison makes a statement. What a difference.

Mick

Mick Mc

12-04-2008, 11:26 PM

Well so far Erik has done all the fab, He does alot of our tube bending and rolling work. He did the rollcage in Rich's Camaro, and alot of work on Mick's wedge sectioned chevelle chassis.

Rodger

Go Erik, Go Erik, Go

Mick
still can't figure out a good name for my project, but chopping up a muscle car makes some people cringe and some people...

rich-allen

12-05-2008, 12:31 PM

Go Erik, Go Erik, Go

Mick
still can't figure out a good name for my project, but chopping up a muscle car makes some people cringe and some people...

chopping up a muscle car makes some people cringe and some people... [ "INSERT QUOTE HERE" ]

chopping up a muscle car makes some people cringe and some people... Orgasim

GvEman

12-08-2008, 02:12 AM

This car is gona be sweet wen its done! The new chassis looks killer!! Keep us posted!!

Bowtieracing

12-08-2008, 03:32 AM

... But i cant understand what an idiot who built the old one..

Uuuppss :_paranoid

GrnDragon

12-08-2008, 09:32 AM

Rodger makes some NICE frames, and it is great to see this back on track!!!

Does anyone here happen to know what the width is of the factory C6 transaxle? From Hub face to Hub face? I am considering trying to use a transaxle on my 69 and want to know how much I would have to narrow it to fit the wheels I already have.

novanutcase

12-15-2008, 11:05 PM

WOW!!

John

98ssnova

12-22-2008, 02:49 PM

Tyler any updated on the car?

novanutcase

12-22-2008, 03:23 PM

Tyler any updated on the car?

Rodger got hitched this weekend......

John

rich-allen

12-23-2008, 09:19 AM

They went to the drag races and the Ultimate Fighter for the honeymoon :hail:

ironworks

12-23-2008, 09:22 AM

Not yet, we are trying to get sometickets, but there are no drag races this weekend so I guess we will have to find something else to do in Vegas. UUUMMMM. I'm not sure I have ever gone to Vegas to not do anything with cars.

Rodger

98ssnova

12-23-2008, 10:25 PM

Oh yea sorry

novanutcase

12-23-2008, 10:31 PM

Vegas69

12-23-2008, 10:34 PM

That's what I was thinking...but I have been with my lady for 7 years so I get it.:rofl:

cheapta

12-26-2008, 04:24 PM

So-let me get this straight-did Wayne Due's shop build the cage as well as the chassis? I had hoped to get one of his C4 front clips for my 1st-gen Nova but then he closed up his shop.

Thomo5150

10-17-2009, 02:25 AM

Is this camaro still being built????

awr68

10-17-2009, 11:31 AM

Is this camaro still being built????

Yes....but I think Tyler has a few other things on his plate at the moment. Last I heard (saw in pics) it's still at Ironworks though!

ironworks

10-17-2009, 02:15 PM

Still is.

Thomo5150

10-17-2009, 02:21 PM

Hi Rodger, any updates or is the project on hold, very interested in this project.

Cheers Tim

ironworks

10-17-2009, 02:28 PM

We have gotten a few things done to try and get it off the chassis jig and made to roll. It is really close for that, but no where near done.
It would be great to free up some shop space.

Rodger

Teetoe_Jones

05-27-2010, 07:59 PM

The black daily driven 68 (aka Chicane-LM) has been sold. 50/50 will once again move forward at Ironworks. I can't stress enough how important it is to work with the right shop. Rodger was beyond understanding, professional, and accommodating while I figured out what to do with a stalled out project. I hear all the time people saying how they can't afford high end shops like Ironworks; I'll tell you first hand you can't afford NOT to go to a shop of this caliber. How many re-do's have I had to do between the chassis shop and body kit? Two and three respectively, and after being burned over and over on this obsession I learned what makes a good shop.

Tune in as we crack open the vault that stores the 5-time-world-champion-of-stalled-projects, eleven-years-and-counting-in-the-making, lighter-weight-than-ever-before, 1968 Camaro known as 50/50.

Tyler

camcojb

05-27-2010, 08:10 PM

good job Tyler.

Jody

XcYZ

05-27-2010, 08:24 PM

[LEFT]good job Tyler.

Jody

x2. Glad to hear it's moving along again. :cheers:

96z28ss

05-27-2010, 08:30 PM

So the project is moving forward again, Congrats!!

Hopefully you sold the other car for a 6 figure sum so you can finish 50/50.
$40k gets swallowed up fast with these types of projects.

ironworks

05-27-2010, 08:36 PM

Well it is not in motion yet... it is still locked in it's lovely desert condo of steel. But we have to finish something to get another project inside. I have more employees then ever and we have a bunch of projects going on. Along with all the current work, it seems all the stall projects are all wanting to start up again......

I guess my problems could be worse......

awr68

05-27-2010, 10:42 PM

Great news Tyler! And yes Rodger...it could be worse!! ;)

Al Moreno

05-28-2010, 05:32 AM

I think your picture should be in the dictionary under the word "Persistent". Good luck with the completion of the project. Looking forward to the resurrection!:thumbsup:

Vegas69

05-28-2010, 07:40 AM

Is Ironworks the 401k you mentioned on Facebook?:unibrow: Glad to see your car is back in gear. I'll get to see it next week.

tones2SS

05-28-2010, 08:42 AM

Very cool Tyler. Should be awesome.:thumbsup:

Rybar

05-28-2010, 12:28 PM

Glad to hear 50/50 is going again. I've always wanted to see it done. :thumbsup:

Teetoe_Jones

05-28-2010, 01:46 PM

Moar pictures!!

I didn't post these from the build earlier in the year.

Front suspension tubes getting laid out:
http://i45.tinypic.com/izw9w0.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/sz8igo.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/33m3j0m.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2iafpkj.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/lieps.jpg

Inner frame structure going together, as well as the tubes for the floor etc.

http://i45.tinypic.com/23ht3jl.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qa04fd.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/fumjnt.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2wnshs5.jpg

Adding cage main hoop, down bars, and tubing to attach wheel tubs/body to:

http://i46.tinypic.com/643qc9.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2pz9zb4.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/24lr250.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2jg8enm.jpg

That's all for now.

Tyler

ironworks

05-28-2010, 02:00 PM

Please I have way more recent pics then that.

Ok edit that not as many as I thought, but here is a few. I know the front suspension was done. :thumbsup:

BUT.....Oh that Single sheer tab?????? :willy: :willy: :willy:

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/2-17-2009shoppics010.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/2-17-2009shoppics009.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/2-17-2009shoppics008.jpg

And there is a Torque tube that is the proper length.

Oh and this picture for good measure. HEHE

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/11-6-2008shoppics007.jpg

Is that Craftsmen? or Ortho?

War

05-28-2010, 02:51 PM

TrueTemper

Teetoe_Jones

05-28-2010, 02:59 PM

It's unfair that you would hate on that firewall engine cover. It had built in wiring harness pass-throughs where the handles used to bolt to it. Plus that one was ultra custom. It was widened to improve the high level of stamped in Taiwan craftsmanship.

Jason- I'm going to need to cannibalize your tool shed to make my floors, and firewall. How much was the Tuffshed anyways?

Tyler

War

05-28-2010, 03:07 PM

Hey....Don't be a hater, just tryin to show anyone can do this at home.

RECOVERY ROOM

05-28-2010, 03:15 PM

YEAH RIGHT......:rofl:

nvr2fst

05-28-2010, 07:07 PM

I think this is another ploy to set up the car getting stolen again:rofl:

Looks like Rodger may have to set up some makeshift garage behind the shop. I think he's running out of room. Wheres Jason, he needs to frame up some additional sq. footage

Good to here its alive and staying at Ironworks in lieu of the metal box
condo.:thumbsup:

mfain

05-28-2010, 09:34 PM

Tyler,

Good to see you back at it. I was afraid I was going to beat you finished by default.

Pappy

DFRESH

05-28-2010, 09:51 PM

Hey....Don't be a hater, just tryin to show anyone can do this at home.

LOL man----that is funny right there---:lol:

Doug

tones2SS

05-29-2010, 10:22 AM

Looking good man.
Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

LowchevyII

05-29-2010, 01:18 PM

good to see this thing back on the project updates. excited to see it come together man.

98ssnova

05-29-2010, 01:38 PM

you better finish this car if not i will take leave and kick your ass HAHA... Congrats bro get her dun:cheers:

Teetoe_Jones

06-08-2010, 11:28 AM

We are back baby! The car came out of it's metal coffin yesterday afternoon. It's a bit dirty, some tiny surface rust, but overall in better shape than I remembered. The car was even further along that I had known with the front suspension almost fully done.

The chassis table it has been mated with for over a year get slid out of the container.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2cf78k5.jpg

Front suspension details like the UCA mounts, the bracing between tubes, and cradle mount.
http://i47.tinypic.com/qnr8eq.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/1zejwg1.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/le0zn.jpg

More of the inner frame and floor bracing:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2dcest2.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/wvx4ax.jpg

The car on its way back inside. She may not look like much now. But she is drinking milk (and chromoly)and pretty soon....

http://i48.tinypic.com/5l6k9z.jpg

The rear C5 Corvette Euro tail lights already look dated to me. It was cool 10 years ago, but now? Not so much. I'm going to make a new rear tail panel from a sheet of carbon that will use the Marquez Design billet 68 rear tail lights and maybe, just maybe I'll even add a RedHead dry break rear filler for the Fuel Safe where the stock gas cap lived.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2lvcnqs.jpg

More to come as I get updates from Rodger at Ironworks. (http://www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com)

Tyler

syborg tt

06-08-2010, 01:40 PM

Tiger

06-08-2010, 01:43 PM

Ohh these are good news!

finally back on track

pokey64

06-08-2010, 05:47 PM

She may not look like much now. But she is drinking milk (and chromoly)and pretty soon....

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/05/wallpaper_danica_1280_opt.jpg

Excited to see the progress!!! :thumbsup:

ArisESQ

06-08-2010, 10:38 PM

awesome! can't wait to see where this goes!

and good call on ditching the vette tails. stock ones will look much more appropriate.

Cris@JCG

06-09-2010, 08:29 AM

Good to see that you are moving forward with this build Tyler. Can't wait to see the progress from Ironworks!

tones2SS

06-09-2010, 03:38 PM

Very cool. Should be awesome.:thumbsup:
Good call on the tail lights.

next69

06-16-2010, 03:42 PM

Where are the updates?

Teetoe_Jones

06-16-2010, 03:46 PM

ironworks

06-16-2010, 04:01 PM

I told Rodger he could start on the car when he is damn good and ready. He is trying to get that sick ass truck ready for the body shop so mine will sit quietly and wait. I'd say mid July you will see some nice updates but as of today it has a spot inside again! He was cool with me while it stalled for a year, so I'll be more than cool with him as he finishes off other projects before tending to mine.

Tyler

Well that and the fact Mary who owns that "sick ass truck", has a great big 45 caliber pistol in her purse and she has been waiting patiently for a 1948 Chevy truck for 40 years. SEMA here we come.

Rodger

Teetoe_Jones

07-01-2010, 11:43 AM

Went to visit my car last week. Got some parts in for the build like these new Tilton floor mounted triple pedals.

http://i47.tinypic.com/23sbu3c.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/6egp7d.jpg

Got to check out the frame in person and check out the fantastic tube work.
The way they mounted the factory aluminum cradles is pretty sweet. If I need to repair anything I just pop the upper ball joints and shock mounts, and 8 cradle bolt and the entire suspension, drivetrain and engine unzip from the car.
Drivers side front cradle mount:
http://i48.tinypic.com/34yv9s0.jpg
Same side, top view.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2dt5093.jpg

Other cool details like how they made the tubing spacers integrate into the upper coil over mounts are pretty sweet.
http://i46.tinypic.com/14t8neg.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/etdvg1.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/34j21p3.jpg

So the first of a few bummers was that since we are using the factory C5 cradles, suspension and engine placement I can't use the ATS Sidewinder accessory drive that I had been saving. The steering rack to balancer clearance will only allow use of the factory Y body accessory drive; without repositioning the engine further rearward, redoing the mounts, firewall and torque tube that is. I'm not willing to change that much stuff. I'd rather keep it factory in case I need a replacement part.
Second bummer is I had a set of ATS Tri-Y headers set aside for this car too, and with the crazy tubes catching the cradles and making the inner torque tube structure, there is no way these bad boys will fit either. We will see if Rodger can modify some tubes to make them clear, and if not both the Sidewinder and Tri-Y headers will be up for sale.

Next on the list is to wait for the Fuel Safe and Ron Davis radiator to arrive and they will make the floors, firewall, and radiator support. We are going to follow the C5R layout and tilt the top of the radiator toward the grill and allow it to vent out the hood via an extractor.

Should start seeing some progress around August.

Tyler

cdushane

07-01-2010, 11:55 AM

Ironworks does some sick work, cant wait to get my hands on the 67 I bought to see all the cool stuff they did to it :wow:

Teetoe_Jones

07-01-2010, 12:04 PM

Ironworks does some sick work, cant wait to get my hands on the 67 I bought to see all the cool stuff they did to it :wow:

Let me guess. You purchased Rich Allen's car? You will not be disappointed. Hell it has HRE wheels. Every car that HRE wheels is automatically kickass. Don't believe me?
One Lap Camaro. HRE wheels. Scott Gulbranson's 69. HRE wheels. My 50/50 car. HRE wheels. Dave's 69 tube chassis at IWSK? HRE wheels with CARBON HOOPS!

Tyler

cdushane

07-01-2010, 12:23 PM

Let me guess. You purchased Rich Allen's car? You will not be disappointed. Hell it has HRE wheels. Every car that HRE wheels is automatically kickass. Don't believe me?
One Lap Camaro. HRE wheels. Scott Gulbranson's 69. HRE wheels. My 50/50 car. HRE wheels. Dave's 69 tube chassis at IWSK? HRE wheels with CARBON HOOPS!

Tyler

Sure did buddy :D

I'm sure your aware as it appears to have your carbon fiber valve covers. Can I take off the coil bracket and use you coil relocation kit?

Oh, and I have Forgelines on my 69. LOL! Just thought i'd let you know :unibrow:

ironworks

07-01-2010, 02:05 PM

SO your telling me, I have to return the "OFFICAL" True Temper wheel barrow I bought last night in 50/50 green? Well let me tell you....PAL. Whether you use it or not your gonna get charged for it. Believe me. The Fashionista has some sweet Stanley shovels to make muffler pockets in the rear.....

OK Seriously,I thought you said we were going to move the engine back to run a stock torque tube. That saves money right there. Plus what firewall? I already cut out the ************* wheel barrow you had in there before. Can't we just buy a deep wheel barrow for the new firewall. True Temper said if you leave the stickers and wooden handles intact they will sponsor you 100% if you put the car in their booth at the Home and Garden show.

d touring

07-01-2010, 02:58 PM

coolwelder62

07-01-2010, 03:13 PM

Tyler if you use a wheel barrell for the fire wall will have to learn to speak spanish.:lol:

Teetoe_Jones

07-01-2010, 03:26 PM

That's...

Unfair.

Ron in SoCal

07-01-2010, 04:57 PM

That's...

Unfair.

I just know Frank's gonna chime in any sec....:rofl:

XLexusTech

07-01-2010, 06:06 PM

I just know Frank's gonna chime in any sec....:rofl:

:drama:

Teetoe_Jones

07-01-2010, 06:30 PM

I just know Frank's gonna chime in any sec....:rofl:

He straight up stole that idea from the first 50/50 build. (Kidding!! Don't kill me Frankie-Poo!)

Tyler

DFRESH

07-01-2010, 09:50 PM

Come on man, focus---Panel Gap Spray--we'll make millions.

Tyler, how much carbon fiber will this project get on it? The works? Maybe I missed the completed version drawing---what's the target weight when done--I know about the weight distribution---

Doug

Spiffav8

07-04-2010, 07:07 AM

Well that and the fact Mary who owns that "sick ass truck", has a great big 45 caliber pistol in her purse and she has been waiting patiently for a 1948 Chevy truck for 40 years. SEMA here we come.

Rodger

Tyler has a 45 caliber pistol in his purse to. :rofl:

Teetoe_Jones

07-29-2010, 12:26 PM

So the work has begun. They started making the floor, and they are fitting the front sheetmetal to begin core support fabrication and to terminate the frame ends. Not much to see, but at least it is in the big area with all the other cars again; I hope it plays nice with the other children.

The drivers side floor begins construction:
http://i32.tinypic.com/34ydy6a.jpg

My dream engine that I can't afford:
http://i25.tinypic.com/1zo9u2x.jpg

The sheetmetal getting installed:
http://i31.tinypic.com/2uz2pnn.jpg

Fenders in place, getting ready to mock up the 50/50 signature front air dam:
http://i26.tinypic.com/sys18z.jpg

More of the floor installed, and some panels on the passenger side:
http://i28.tinypic.com/sv0t8i.jpg

Rodger tells me that he might be checking my HRE wheels on the chassis later. I am really excited to see it when it is off the table, wheels and sheetmetal in place and a roller again. What a day that will be.

Tyler

ja.stoner63

07-29-2010, 12:30 PM

Tyler, that will be a very sweet day for sure. Love the pictures, thanks.

coolwelder62

07-29-2010, 03:22 PM

Lookin good Tyler.Will it be ready for Optima shoot out this year.If it get's finished in time I will ride w/you this year.:lol: :thumbsup: Scott.

Flash68

07-29-2010, 05:09 PM

Bad azz... glad it's back on track!

Teetoe_Jones

07-29-2010, 05:14 PM

These guys work fast. Already aligned the entire front end and installed the hood. Usually takes me a few days to get gaps that good.

http://i26.tinypic.com/w8kymg.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/2hxwxn8.jpg

That's all for today.

Tyler

rwhite692

07-29-2010, 06:14 PM

Those tube ends behind the facia look like a good basis for a vehicular artillery option

96z28ss

07-29-2010, 07:09 PM

So what is the plan for the engine and drivetrain?

Bow Tie 67

07-30-2010, 04:07 AM

Will the rockers be extended to match the airdam?

ccracin

07-30-2010, 04:57 AM

The sheetmetal getting installed:
http://i31.tinypic.com/2uz2pnn.jpg

Fenders in place, getting ready to mock up the 50/50 signature front air dam:
http://i26.tinypic.com/sys18z.jpg
Tyler

Tyler,

Really like the header panel placement. When the fenders get pie cut and reshaped to match, look out. It might be back just a bit far. The engine will be in the front seat! The project will have to be renamed 40/60! That will be one slick MOFO!:hail:

Glad to see it back underway. Keep us posted!:thumbsup:

ironworks

07-30-2010, 05:29 AM

Here is a pic I have of the rocker molding mocked up to give you an idea of what we have in store. I might put the wheels on it and see how it fits next week since all the major stuff is landed. I have a few things to get in order first on the car.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/11-24-2008shoppics005.jpg

tones2SS

07-30-2010, 09:37 AM

That is looking sweet!!:thumbsup:

Teetoe_Jones

07-30-2010, 05:05 PM

Update for the weekend:

Floors are coming along very nicely.

http://i28.tinypic.com/fs3t0.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2jfix4j.jpg

Wheel test fit:

Inside drivers front:
http://i32.tinypic.com/2d9xr2c.jpg

Front view; looks like I'll be doing a wide body front and rear 68 body now:
http://i28.tinypic.com/30a8ia0.jpg

Drivers side shot at ride height:
http://i25.tinypic.com/utsee.jpg

Can't wait to see the 3/4 shot with both front and rear wheels, even if they stick out past the sheetmetal.

Have a good weekend boys.

Tyler

speedshftr

07-30-2010, 05:10 PM

the car is going to be killer for sure.something about that front air dam that just looks to ricey for my taste.no disrespect intended ,just imagine if everyone liked everythin g the same it would be a boring world.same with the side skirts.the way the chassis is
built it just seems like the exterior should be brought up a few notches to match the awsum skeleton underneath.good luck i cant wait to see it painted.

olds87

07-30-2010, 05:54 PM

So what is the plan for the engine and drivetrain?

I want to know also Tyler?

olds87

07-30-2010, 05:54 PM

I want to know also Tyler?

Would like to know also. O yeah. This car going to be, sick!!

John68rs

07-30-2010, 09:35 PM

I love seeing this car come together! I've been following it since back on CamaroZ28.com! Thanks for updating us on the progress!!

Teetoe_Jones

09-14-2010, 09:34 PM

So I was gone most of August and half of September in Europe; London, Amsterdam, Prague, Paris, and Rome. Rodger did get a few things rolling when they had time.
They did the front A pillar down tubes of the cage, mounted the Tilton pedals, fab'd new engine mounts to set the engine back for use of my Sidewinder accessory drive, re-made the torque tube, and re-installed the drivetrain.

I only have a few pics, and they don't show much, but an update is an update.
Checking HRE wheel clearance.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsJuly2010001.jpg
New laser cut engine mounts
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010038.jpg
Same thing, different angle
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010039.jpg
Engine setback is now very much into the firewall, and at least 2 inches behind the front axle centerline
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010028.jpg
Torque tube all installed
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010029.jpg

Tyler

youthpastor

09-14-2010, 10:29 PM

very cool - it's nice to see progress on it- floor looks trick

68RS350

09-15-2010, 04:57 AM

How much is the engine recessed back in the firewall? Also how much clearance is there between the outside of the torque tube and the inside of the tunnel? Im doing the same thing in my 68 and havent decide on how much clearance I was going to give.

tones2SS

09-15-2010, 06:28 AM

Very nice. That is a great build.:thumbsup:

conekiller13

09-15-2010, 07:52 AM

Checking HRE wheel clearance.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsJuly2010001.jpg
New laser cut engine mounts
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010038.jpg
Same thing, different angle
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010039.jpg
Engine setback is now very much into the firewall, and at least 2 inches behind the front axle centerline
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010028.jpg
Torque tube all installed
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsAugust2010029.jpg

Tyler

So what kind of speed potential do the little red x's give you...:P

coolwelder62

09-15-2010, 04:29 PM

Tyler,Rodger look's real cool.Cant wait to see more.:thumbsup:

Teetoe_Jones

09-16-2010, 07:14 AM

Rodger uploaded a few more pictures that are current.

Pretty A pillar tubes.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsSeptember2010060.jpg

Engine is set back very deep into the firewall at this point; I'm guessing 7-8 inches but it's hard to tell with the new fisheye lens my boy picked up.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsSeptember2010061.jpg

Sweet. Tilton pedals are mounted. Now I need to get off my ass an choose a Sparco seat, get a steering column, and wheel to get me all set up.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsSeptember2010062.jpg

A pillar bars again.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsSeptember2010063.jpg

Tyler

ironworks

09-16-2010, 07:23 AM

Did you notice the "Rolled" A pillar crossbar? Oh Yeah boy...

wiedemab

09-16-2010, 07:56 AM

Did you notice the "Rolled" A pillar crossbar? Oh Yeah boy...

I did - - - - -- - - That's a nice touch. It's also something that your average fab shop, probably can't easily do......... You "show-off" :unibrow:

ironworks

09-16-2010, 08:00 AM

I did - - - - -- - - That's a nice touch. It's also something that your average fab shop, probably can't easily do......... You "show-off" :unibrow:

Well We are just and average fab shop with tube roller, that's all, really I just wanted to be able to see out of the car when Tyler hires me to wheel the car for him. He can be the car owner and I can be the wheel man, but I'm not dying my hair blue to be on your team, Blue hair is for monster truck drivers.

Teetoe_Jones

09-16-2010, 08:09 AM

Well We are just and average fab shop with tube roller, that's all, really I just wanted to be able to see out of the car when Tyler hires me to wheel the car for him. He can be the car owner and I can be the wheel man, but I'm not dying my hair blue to be on your team, Blue hair is for monster truck drivers.

I'm keeping the car green so that the Monster Energy decals will go on easier. Just wait until I let Ken Block get in this bad boy. I hope my new DC Shoes will fit those Tilton pedals.

Now will you stop being a pu$$y and cut my fenders and quarter panels apart?

Tyler

wiedemab

09-16-2010, 08:21 AM

Blue hair is for monster truck drivers.

And old women!!!!!

http://images.clipartof.com/small/94444-Royalty-Free-RF-Clipart-Illustration-Of-An-Old-Lady-With-Tall-Blue-Hair.jpg

Teetoe_Jones

09-16-2010, 08:23 AM

HWY Nova

09-16-2010, 08:24 AM

And old women!!!!!

Ouch.

tones2SS

09-16-2010, 08:35 AM

Great build. That engine is set back pretty far.
Looking good guys!:thumbsup:

HWY Nova

09-16-2010, 09:07 AM

That engine is set back pretty far.

Rodger,

Please verify: You are using an aluminum Corvette front crossmember, and that the engine placement is correct relative to the cross member.

--Eric

ironworks

09-16-2010, 09:32 AM

The engine is 3.5" back from stock. The torque tube is stock length and there is room to run Tyler's Sidewinder system on the front of the engine now.

We plan to relocate the firewall back.

Teetoe_Jones

09-16-2010, 09:33 AM

Rodger,

Please verify: You are using an aluminum Corvette front crossmember, and that the engine placement is correct relative to the cross member.

--Eric

Nope.

Factory cradles, yes. Engine placement is further rearward than factory. Those laser cut mounts shown moved it 2 inches further back (maybe more) to allow for my Sidewinder accessory drive and so I could use a factory length torque tube.

Tyler

HWY Nova

09-16-2010, 09:56 AM

Rodger & Tyler,

Thanks for the response.

--Eric

wiedemab

09-16-2010, 10:18 AM

Ouch.

Just a friendly jab - - -;)

OK - back on topic - sorry.

PhillipM

09-17-2010, 04:26 PM

Did you notice the "Rolled" A pillar crossbar? Oh Yeah boy...

I'm not sure what Tyler plans to do with the car but will having the A piller rolled like that still pass tech at say Silver State? I'm not sure how stingy they are about the rules or if he is even planning to run there. Just wanted to ask in case someone knew.

ironworks

09-17-2010, 04:46 PM

LowchevyII

09-18-2010, 05:40 PM

What seat do you guys think for a street/track car?

I'd like a Sparco. Here are the 3 I was looking at:

Sparco Circuit seat for $870 each
http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/P/00892F_1_lg.jpg

Sparco Pro ADV for $850 each
http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/P/00867FAZ_1_lg.jpg

Or the Sparco Corsa for $730 each.
http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/P/00887F_1_lg.jpg

The first two will limit my blind spot viewing on the street but are HANS compatiable and would offer the best protection for me, where as the Corsa would be great for street visibility, but not as safe in a racing environment.
Have any of you guys used any of these in a street/track car?

Tyler

In terms of looks, i like teh Pro ADV or the Corsa. Not sure where or how often youre gonna be racing it and needing a HANS device so obviously your decision rests there. The carbon fiber on the Circuit does look sick though. Makes sense to put it in the car being as you work at that one carbon fiber place or something

78 typelt

09-20-2010, 01:32 AM

sweet

conekiller13

09-20-2010, 01:01 PM

In terms of looks, i like teh Pro ADV or the Corsa. Not sure where or how often youre gonna be racing it and needing a HANS device so obviously your decision rests there. The carbon fiber on the Circuit does look sick though. Makes sense to put it in the car being as you work at that one carbon fiber place or something

I'd go with Corsa if your driving it on the street......

09-20-2010, 01:18 PM

I would purchase a seat that you fit in.

WSSix

09-21-2010, 07:46 PM

Did you notice the "Rolled" A pillar crossbar? Oh Yeah boy...

What do you mean?

Thanks

Teetoe_Jones

09-21-2010, 08:29 PM

The bar that goes across the front of the windshield isn't straight across between the A pillar bars. It is curved to match the contour of the roof line. Subtle, but top notch work.

Tyler

Spiffav8

09-22-2010, 11:34 AM

Looking good. Looking forward to drive it....I'll take the CORSA seat. :D

PhillipM

10-07-2010, 09:50 AM

I'm not sure why it would be an issue. I would think it would make the cage stronger. Now if it was the opposite direction I could see that being and issue.
I'm open if you know something I don't know. They have radius cages in alot of offroad sanctioning bodies so it must not be an issue there.

After searching around for a while, I was not able to find anything that specifically states this bar must be straight. It definitely looks awesome :thumbsup:

66LS7

10-08-2010, 07:16 PM

Tyler, I have been watching this build since it was at Wayne Dues shop till now & I'm so excited to see it at Ironworks moving forward. Keep up the great work & follow through with the dream.:thumbsup:

11-25-2010, 11:30 AM

Tyler,

Any new pics to share?

Teetoe_Jones

12-08-2010, 11:54 AM

Rodger teased me with 3 pictures today. Progress will come faster in the next month but we've been debating over the widebody for a while now. Do we add very obvious flares? Do we widen the car? I spoke to John McBride about this and he sketched out some ideas; I had a hard time picking any of them and ultimately picked none of them. While the flares in my head would be as amazing as the ones on the Porsche GT3R Hybrid (Google image THAT car.) when seen on paper it just didn't make me fall in love.

Starting sketch (based off my old black 68 Camaro) with factory track width:
http://i53.tinypic.com/f1i1ht.jpg

Flare concept number one:
http://i54.tinypic.com/dg2n9i.jpg

Flare concept 2 and 2A:
http://i53.tinypic.com/27y8zuu.jpg

So we decided after all the back and forth, all the idea and reference material we are just going to wide body the car vs flare the wheel wells.

Rodger had the boys get out the sander and cut off wheel.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsDecember2010018.jpg

Then they cut out the 'eyebrow' and placed it where it needs to be to clear the meats.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsDecember2010026.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Project%2050-50/ShopPicsDecember2010027.jpg

A few more cuts and then lots of patching, metal working, and grinding and we will be able to set it down on all 4 wheels for the first time in 10 years. I need to get my Sparco seats and Woodward column so that we can position me in the car and then the last of the floor/firewall can be built. I hope to have it a roller by spring.

Tyler