A little progress on my Chevelle [Archive]

Tom.A

07-18-2008, 02:57 PM

Mods/Admin - I had started a thread months back but for some reason the update post were going above original post:willy: I thought I would start fresh and keep this one updated:

The roll cage is almost complete. I stopped by the shop and snapped a few pictures Today. I debated about material, size, roll bar or roll cage. I know this is a sticky topic of what is right or wrong etc. I tried to look at rules for something that over laps different types of events...wow there is no universal way. Rules, at least in my looking are confusing at best. So I elected to go with 1-3/4" DOM with 120 wall thickness. I also chose to weld to the frame. My frame is not boxed so we boxed/plated about a 7" section on the frame at each contact point. After talking with a few people about the floor pan I chose to leave a 5/16" gap and will later fill with seam sealer with hopes this may allow the body to flex a little.
I am using Delrin body bushings that I got from a board member here a while back.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7181.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7182.jpg

I was in a hurry Today and did not realize how bad of pictures I took but these will give idea what it looks like..
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a71810.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7187.jpg

Tom.A

07-18-2008, 03:00 PM

In order to get the bar tuck as tight as possible he cut parts of the inner structure to push the bar inward.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7184.jpg

On the front bars going to engine we are using tube clamps that will allow them to be removed. We are waiting for UPS to deliver the M/C Today so we can no where to bend as it is real close.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7185.jpg

Just a few things left like picking seats and then will have to tie those to the cage. Here are a few more pics:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7183.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7186.jpg

We also went through the dash
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7189.jpg

fesler

07-18-2008, 03:02 PM

Nice cage looks like a fun project, when do you plan on having it done?

Tom.A

07-18-2008, 04:36 PM

Nice cage looks like a fun project, when do you plan on having it done?

Thanks. As far as being done I would hope by next year (summer) but it is amazing how much time flys on top how a budget flys out the window:lol:.
I am going to cut corners and paint it Hot Rod Flatz hugger orange for now. I figure I can thrash it for a while and then maybe down the road have it painted.

camcojb

07-18-2008, 08:15 PM

looks like it gonna be a ball................. :yes:

Jody

Hulley

07-19-2008, 07:41 AM

Lookin good! I check out your website on a regular basis too, great pics there as well! Inspiration for me on my 68" Malibu that I'm planning on starting this fall. :thumbsup:

Tom.A

07-19-2008, 09:47 PM

Thanks Guy's :cheers:

7TSS

07-20-2008, 06:24 PM

Tom.A

07-20-2008, 10:39 PM

Car is coming along nicely. Btw, does your cage weld to the frame or just to the floor pan? I read that for drag racing it needs to be welded to the frame on full frame cars. That is one reason I'm leaning away from doing a bar/cage.

Thanks. Yes it is welded to frame with about 7" of plate at each point where the frame is C sectioned. I have seen where some guy's have plated top and bottom of floor pan which I considered but since we welded it will have to be painted together. This car is going to be a beater anyway so will just mask the frame. How is your car? Is it back from paint and black?

07-21-2008, 08:36 AM

Nice build. :thumbsup:

7TSS

07-21-2008, 05:59 PM

Thanks. Yes it is welded to frame with about 7" of plate at each point where the frame is C sectioned. I have seen where some guy's have plated top and bottom of floor pan which I considered but since we welded it will have to be painted together. This car is going to be a beater anyway so will just mask the frame. How is your car? Is it back from paint and black?

I wish. Painter just recently came by to look at what needs to be done. Hopefully he'll start by the end of August. Been working on stripping it down again. Work is going slowly this time around. Seeing your car gives me inspiration though. :yes:

Tom.A

07-30-2008, 11:06 PM

I got some time to hang the front sheet metal. It's along ways away, but for me it feels like progress after seeing parts laying around
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7301.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7305.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7304.jpg

Tom.A

07-30-2008, 11:07 PM

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7303.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a7302.jpg

07-31-2008, 09:16 AM

:wow: That looks good. Is this your brothers shop?

Tom.A

07-31-2008, 12:13 PM

:wow: That looks good. Is this your brothers shop?

Thanks, The cage work was done by a company called Top of the line Fab.The pictures above are at my brother's shop..but he does not own it. He is employed by a Family that owns about twelve tire stores here in the area. My brother has always been paint and body and builder guy by trade. The tire store family are a bunch of gear heads and all my brother does is work on their private stuff. They have several dozen cars from C6Z06 vettes, LSX desert cars and a bunch of hot rods. He turns out some cool cars but no pt stuff. Some of the cars they just fix up and turn. For the most it's a cool job because he does not deal with any customers..just the family. It's a great deal for the guy's to have him on the payroll when you factor what a paint job or fab cost these days. When you have hundreds of people on staff it seems like easy to bury the cost of one guy spread out. Plus if the tire store mechanics wreck customer's cars (which they do) my brother can fix at a better rate. I am just stoked that they let me store and work on my car there.

Tom.A

08-03-2008, 03:18 PM

I fitted the hood Today. The whole front group fenders, hood, core support is all the Dynacorn Taiwan reproduction pieces. I have heard many horror stories with things not fitting. I took a chance as I did not want to spend the money for Nos sheet metal (I have also seen where Nos does not fit so great either). We just spent a little time so far working on gaps and I must say things are fitting much better than I expected.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a111.jpg

One area I am a little concerned is the passenger fender where it meets the header panel is angled (see picture below the gray primer to the black panel above where the headlights go). You can see that it slopes where the driver side is more level. I need to get the grill and headlight eyebrows bought so I can see how much of an issue that is. Overall I am happy the way it is fitting as this car it just a driver anyway.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/a112.jpg

Tom.A

08-14-2008, 12:12 AM

Not much of an update but I got the Hydraulic kit from Classic Motorsports (AKA Classic Chevy 5 Speed). I knew Jeff and the guy's had been working on the Chevelle application for a while so I waited. Finally last week they were finished up with first production pieces. The guy's over there are great and they won't hurry any products until they are totally happy with fitment and function. I was very pleased with their design of the bracket (Note: There are no current plans for them to sell as a stand alone item. It is only available when buying a full 5 speed conversion kit from them). The bracket mounts on the four brake booster stud and is nice and Strong. It comes into the left side of the clutch pedal unlike others that go between the brake and clutch pedals. Here is a few pictures. Sorry crummy cell phone pics as I did not have my camera.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/1HYD1.jpg

My roll cage was close but cleared fine. This won't be an issue on most other Chevelles without a cage. It comes with remote reservoir and a direct mount. It appears the direct would fit if I did not have the bar through fire wall. I am using the remote. I not sure if I will leave it mounted like this or I may even use another type of remote. The hood does clear with plenty of room

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/1HYD4.jpg

A little wider shot prior to adding remote. The bracket while hard to see in this picture comes way out to the left.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/1HYD2.jpg

I have a few more things to fit and then I will be taking the front clip and engine out for some paint. Were going to add a crossbar to tie the two engine compartment bars together with a dimple die cover. I also think I am gonna add down bars that drop between the UCA and fire wall. I am thinking of adding tabs to the engine bars so we can make some kind of fender wells as the stock ones are not going to fit right

XcYZ

08-14-2008, 05:15 AM

Tom, the car is looking awesome. :cheers:

tones2SS

08-14-2008, 06:48 AM

She's coming along nicely.:thumbsup:

Ricochet

08-14-2008, 07:26 AM

Thanks for the updates!! Nice cage work!

Brent

Tom.A

08-14-2008, 07:33 PM

Thanks guys. :cheers:

Tom.A

02-28-2009, 11:45 PM

Not much of an update, but I got my new wheels. I had to dig deep to find this thread :lol: Family & work take priority over the car. However I use this site to get inspired everyday. It's the next best thing too see other members car's come together.
The wheels are Fikse Profil 13. I waffled about a choice for months and in the end picked these at the last minute. Thanks to Frank @ Prodigy Customs for the deal:thumbsup: I had called to get another brand originally.
Rears: 18 x 11 (6"BS) and front 18 x 9-1/2" (5.25" BS). I did not have the brake rotors on but it appears everything will clear good.
Also thanks to Jon @ Driverz Inc as he supplied the the Nitto tires and mounting. He is local too me. I wanted somebody that would not scratch or rough them up. He is a good guy and handled them with care.
Tires are 305/35/18 Nitto DR in rear and 275/40/18 in front. I was thinking Toyo R888's but maybe later if I actually make track days.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG00018-20090228-1318.jpg

I think the car will need to come down a little lower to look right.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG00012-20090228-1307.jpg

Mikael A

03-01-2009, 04:43 AM

Love the new wheels car is looking good.

GHOSTDANCER

03-01-2009, 08:50 AM

Looks good. The 305/40 would have filled the wheelwell a little better.:cheers:

tones2SS

03-01-2009, 10:01 AM

Looks good.
Those wheels will look good on her.:thumbsup:

Flash68

03-01-2009, 10:10 AM

Looks good. The 305/40 would have filled the wheelwell a little better.:cheers:

Maybe, but some like to have a closely matched sidewall. :)

Looking great Tom. Keep those updates coming!

Tom.A

03-01-2009, 07:31 PM

Thanks guy's. Dave is correct as I was trying to get close on side walls. However I also did think about the 305/40/18 as these from the direct side view look a little short. I will use them for now.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG00013-20090228-1308.jpg

Tom.A

03-28-2009, 10:42 PM

Well after hours of blocking, guide coats and wet sanding (I got cherries for finger tips :yes:) we shot the Hugger Orange Hot Rod Flatz which is a satin paint Today.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG00037-20090328-1131.jpg
My brother has been helping/guiding me on the body work because it is what hes does. For the record the body still really needs more work but getting time to work on it is limited for me. The plan was for the Hot Rod Flatz to be temporary anyway. He had never shot this stuff before but his friend had and said that he could not get it to flow and lay down. We had the same problem almost like zebra stripes with a very uneven result. The picture does not really show how crappy it looks. I suspect it was something we did as I know they sell allot of this paint so I am not bashing the product. In any case we don't care to explore why or how because the color is awful looking IMO.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG00043-20090328-1709-1.jpg
I think I will just put it in primer for now and try and get it together. My attention span on this car is passing quickly. I figure once I get going I will want change things anyway.

70rs

03-29-2009, 10:53 AM

That's a really nice Chevelle Tom. I have always liked that body style and the stance and wheels just add to it. Nice!
What happened to the old wheels? (the grey 5 spoke set)
Are they for sale?? If so, what brand, model, size and backspace? They are pretty much the same style and color I've been wanting for my project.
This may sound like a rookie question but do the second gen Camaro and your Chevelle have the same lug spacing?
Sorry for the hi-jack on the thread.
Eric

Tom.A

03-29-2009, 02:16 PM

Thanks Eric, I sold the old wheels and tires a while back. As for the lug pattern it would be the same for your camaro, however the width and back spacing is also a thing to consider when buying wheels.

70rs

03-29-2009, 02:39 PM

Thanks for the quick reply Tom. I'll keep the width and back spacing in mind.:thumbsup:

7TSS

03-29-2009, 07:03 PM

Sorry to hear the paint didn't work out too well. Your car will still be pretty bad@$$ even in primer. Hang in there!!!! :thumbsup:

awr68

03-29-2009, 08:00 PM

Sorry to hear the paint didn't work out too well. Your car will still be pretty bad@$$ even in primer. Hang in there!!!! :thumbsup:

ditto!
So what color primer will you be sporting?

Tom.A

03-29-2009, 10:05 PM

ditto!
So what color primer will you be sporting?

I am thinking anything but gray. Maybe white tinted primer. I know to some it may seem silly not to finish the paint but I really don't want to stick more money in this car at the moment. Don't tell my fellow chevelle builders but I kinda want a first gen camaro ;) My wife even told me that I should have built a 68 camaro:lol:.

Flash68

03-30-2009, 12:15 AM

My wife even told me that I should have built a 68 camaro:lol:.

Naaaahhh, who the hell would want one of those!? :lol:

7TSS

03-30-2009, 11:53 AM

I am thinking anything but gray. Maybe white tinted primer. I know to some it may seem silly not to finish the paint but I really don't want to stick more money in this car at the moment. Don't tell my fellow chevelle builders but I kinda want a first gen camaro ;) My wife even told me that I should have built a 68 camaro:lol:.

Funny you should say that since I've been working on a '68 Camaro project with my brother.

Tom.A

06-13-2009, 11:32 PM

Well I brought my car back from my Brother's shop mainly because our schedules would rarely match where I could work on my car. My wife loves when I spray in my gararge..not :D . In any case I have got more done in the last few weeks than I have done in the last 6-8 months and it feels good. I scuffed it down after having the problems with the Hot Rod Flatz and had a guy at the paint store mix up something greenish in primer. It's not for everybody but good enough for me for now. The firewall is a semi gloss black. I am not a painter so it is likely below some peoples standard but again it's all about getting it on the road DIY style. The cage and floor board is POR-15 gray. The cage is like painting a golf ball so it has some sags and a few holidays. I had planned to just use it as a base anyway. I have most of the front suspension on except for the sway bar. Gonna start plumbing and routing wire soon. I have to do a little sheet metal work where the back seat used to be. I need to get some shears and maybe build a DIY sheet metal break. Hopefully more updates coming in weeks ahead instead of years :lol:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chev23.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chev25.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chev24.jpg

Flash68

06-14-2009, 12:46 AM

Nice work Tom. That thing is gonna be rigid! :thumbsup:

WILWAXU

06-14-2009, 01:34 AM

Car is coming along great! nice work!

Mikael A

06-14-2009, 06:48 AM

Wow she looks great:thumbsup:

tones2SS

06-14-2009, 09:53 AM

Nice work Tom. That thing is gonna be rigid! :thumbsup:

Yeah. I agree.
Keep up the great work.:cheers:

7TSS

06-14-2009, 11:33 AM

Glad to see you're making good progress. Keep at it.

Tom.A

06-14-2009, 08:41 PM

Thanks for the comments guy's :thumbsup:

G-Body

06-15-2009, 05:47 PM

Wow love it super nice love the direction of the build:thumbsup:

camcojb

06-15-2009, 06:59 PM

very impressive. I love the look.

Jody

Tom.A

06-15-2009, 10:27 PM

Thanks guy's.

Just got done mating up the transmission/engine and shimming the TOB etc. Nothing like a little Monday night swearing :willy: It feels weird to be bolting things together and leaving them after so many times assembling things only for mock up. Wrestling the trans is never fun for me but it does get a little easier re-installing things for the third time.

XcYZ

06-16-2009, 05:41 AM

Looks awesome! :woot:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chev23.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chev25.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chev24.jpg

Steve68

06-16-2009, 06:07 AM

Greating looking car! I got the same wheels from Frank, great looking wheels I think!!!

Do you have a close up of the long studs coming through the front? thanks,

Tom.A

06-16-2009, 07:53 AM

Do you have a close up of the long studs coming through the front? thanks,

Steve, I snapped a quick cell phone pic, not the best but I think it gives you the idea.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/fikse2.jpg

Steve68

06-16-2009, 09:19 AM

Thanks Tom,

Tom.A

07-01-2009, 11:07 PM

Tonight I got the the power steering pulley and pump via UPS. I have had the engine in and out a number times and just did not think the ps pulley would be a problem with the steering box. I was wrong..
I am using vette acc's.
Note the pulley is not all the way in these pictures but even it was it would not work.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/ps1.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/ps4.jpg
The pulley I am using is a C6. I am wondering what some of the other A-Bodies guy's are using and how close to the gear box is? Is the C5 pulley smaller diameter?
Below is a pic of the engine position. It is moved as far back as I could go. My first thought is move the engine forward which I wanted to avoid. Not sure that it would be enough anyway. Second thought was to raise it again via spacers between the engine stands. Also did not want that. Third thought was a Unisteer rack and maybe kill this problem and the nagging tie rod issue.
You guys have any thoughts or suggestions?
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/ps5.jpg

Tom.A

10-12-2010, 11:44 PM

Back from the dead.......Another year plus gone by:lol:

I am still plugging away every once in while but I hope to get this thing going soon. My plan is to take it next March to the Run to the Coast event at El Toro. We actually turned the key the yesterday but it only cranked. The fuel was leaking so I will have trace that down and give it another go.
Sorry for cruddy cell phone pics

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG00258-20101008-0932.jpg

I plan to redo a few things like the radiator brace and the intake but these should function for now.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/DSCN1826.jpg

I got my Inland Empire Drivline and it is a nice piece. I screwed up of the first measurement and was 1" short. The guy's IEDL were nice about and gave me a deal on a re-tube. They asked if it was their mistake and I was honest and said no. The guy smiled and said the rework will be half the normal cost for being honest. He said it happens often and normally people blame them so I was happy.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/DSCN1830.jpg

Flash68

10-12-2010, 11:55 PM

Nice work Tom. Good to see the updates coming back. You're gettin there!

brans72

10-13-2010, 05:51 AM

Tom are you using just the bracket,alt and power steering from the vette or is the whole accessory set up from a vette? I am curious if I can use parts from my F body setup and switch out a few parts. Brandon

Tiger

10-13-2010, 07:35 AM

Good to see you back on track, I love the project.

Tom.A

10-13-2010, 09:26 AM

Thanks Guy's.

Brans: I am using all Vette acc. with the exception of a smaller Zoop's PS pulley. I don't think you can mix and match F and Y body because the offsets

tones2SS

10-13-2010, 09:48 AM

Looking good Tom. Glad to see you working on it again.:thumbsup:

7TSS

10-13-2010, 01:07 PM

Progress looks good. Just keep moving forward and it'll be done soon enough. :thumbsup:

rwhite692

10-13-2010, 06:16 PM

Looks great, Tom!

I am also very familiar with ever-long projects, LOL

Tom.A

01-01-2011, 11:50 PM

I have not been good updating this thread but I got the car fired. It runs nice and smooth just like a new car. I did however hit a snag on the hydraulic clutch which resulted in pulling the trans yesterday. More on that below.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/20111.jpg
My wife got me new doors for Christmas. I did not even put them on my list. She is a good woman.

Flash68

01-02-2011, 12:04 AM

Lookin good Tom!

Tom.A

01-02-2011, 12:10 AM

When I went to bleed the clutch I noticed the braided line leaking inside the bell housing. I am using a RAM hydraulic bearing and I was not aware I needed to use teflon tape on the bearing side. The whole hydraulic clutch is new to me so live and learn. I was also concerned that clutch was rock hard.
If I opened the bleeder the pedal would sink down to the floor. I am thinking the spacing was off but checked that tonight and I think I am good. I will check more tomorrow.

Here is a pciture of the bearing relaxed
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/20114.jpg
So since pulling this thing is a big PITA I hooked up the bearing and bleed it with the Motive pressure bleeder
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/20112.jpg
After bleeding I pressed the clutch in to be sure it was moving. I am also concered of over extending so I may need to add a spot on the pedal.
It moved out:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/20113.jpg
I figure I can also check for more leaks.
*Here is where I am confused. I pumped the pedal and it extended till the pedal got hard. Any additional pressure by my foot would likely damage the bearing. Should the pedal remain hard at this stage?? Does the pressure plate help return the pedal all the way up thus reliefeing the had pedal?
I must be missing something so any feedback would be helpful.

Tom.A

01-02-2011, 12:13 AM

Lookin good Tom!

Thanks Dave.

tones2SS

01-02-2011, 08:27 AM

Very nice Tom. Love the build. Keep up the great work.
And Kudos to your wife for hooking you up with the doors!

ironworks

01-02-2011, 08:30 AM

If im understanding your story. Your master sounds too small.

Tom.A

01-02-2011, 10:08 AM

If im understanding your story. Your master sounds too small.

Roger, I did not explain very well. When I had the trans in the car and bleed the clutch the braid line leak was very little (bigger puddle over night) so the pedal still became hard after I pumped it however never would release. Now trying it with the trans out it seems to be doing the same thing. Assuming the spacing on the bearing is correct would the pressure plate return the pedal when I release the pedal? I think I have the correct master as it came from the Hurst/Classic 5 speed kit. I will try and call them tomorrow but was hoping to put it back in Today.

Thanks

DFRESH

01-02-2011, 10:19 AM

Congrats on being so close bro---hope you do make it to RTTC---Taco Party at my house on Sat night following the event.

Doug

ironworks

01-02-2011, 12:47 PM

GregWeld

01-02-2011, 07:45 PM

ironworks

01-02-2011, 07:51 PM

GregWeld

01-02-2011, 08:40 PM

That's why I thought he ran out of master cylinder travel. If the cylinder is too small you may not move enough fluid to get the bearing to release the clutch. Just because they said it would work does not mean that you were talking to a sales person who knew what they were talking about. Plus having to pump it up leads me to believe it is too small also.

But I'm wrong alot, So who knows. When they work right they great. But sometimes getting it there takes some work. I love the clutch release smoothness and the height now. I hate low release clutches.

Sorry Rodger --- I was not really responding to your post.... I was trying to respond by ADDING to what you said. Guess I shouldn't have used the "quote tool".

These hydraulic clutches are super trick stuff -- and work so well and so smooth... but ya gotta get 'em set up right on the money.

I really have no idea what's wrong with his set up -- I was more just trying to say... it should work great and if not - keep searching for a fix!
:cheers:

ironworks

01-02-2011, 08:51 PM

Hay Greg I understand, just cuz you voted for me like 2000 times you feel like we are best friends and you want to be involved. No problem buddy your on the inner circle......If you think this post makes no sense look at the truck vote thread.

Rodger

Tom.A

01-02-2011, 09:35 PM

Congrats on being so close bro---hope you do make it to RTTC---Taco Party at my house on Sat night following the event.

Doug

Thanks Doug. The RTTC event is not going to happen as just too many nagging issues for a limited weekend warrior like me. My thought was just put a windshield, seat and harness and go but I am sorting out all the leaks which include every type of fluid such as oil lines, brake lines, coolant...you name it I have them. This clutch issue is just added bump in the road and once past that there will be other issues that pop up. Many of the members here make it look easy building a car but it is a roller coaster for me :yes: I will say I am so glad the paint and body is not done because things got pretty sloppy with brake fluid flowing all over. My paint on the frame is messed up but it can be touched up and does not show for the most part. I tip my hat to all the guy's with the skills to avoid messing things up. I do know if I go this deep on another car in the future it will be better the second time around because I will have a better idea of what to expect.

Tom.A

01-02-2011, 10:04 PM

So when the pedal became hard, was the clutch fully disengaged. I had to pull the trans in my camaro race ca few times to get the spacing just right. Then you have to set a stop so you don't over extend the throwout bearing. Sometimes I wonder how exact those after market bellhousings are. Just a bit more depth can change everything.

Rodger/Greg, thanks for the feedback. I think it must be in the spacing. I just did not have time to measure Today. I still think I am not good at putting the problem into words. I did not have to pump the pedal to get movement. I was speaking about pedal being hard and if I open the bleeder I could pump the pedal then. I believe the bearing never fully engagded the clutch fingers.
With the bearing out I was able to get the movement of the bearing with one step on the pedal and was wondering if the pressure plate overcomes the bearing thus returning the pedal from the floor because it remained hard. It seems logical that the pressure plate should return the pedal linkage? I will report back when I get info.

Thanks,

GregWeld

01-03-2011, 08:05 AM

Tom

Since there is ZERO resistance on the hydraulic bearing with it being "out" of the car - there should be ZERO effort on the clutch pedal.

There is something going on there and my thoughts are it isn't the bearing -- I'd be looking at the pedal etc.

Try disconnecting the bearing -- or have someone hold a pan under your bleeder and then depress the clutch pedal - check for binding etc. Better yet - disconnect the pedal from the M/C and actuate the M/C by hand to see what it feels like. I'm betting your pushrod is too long and you're bottoming out the M/C giving you a "hard" clutch pedal feel. Sounds to me like there's a problem that is not really bearing related but in the pedal / M/C area.

jake72ss

01-03-2011, 03:15 PM

I have installed a similar hydraulic clutch in my Dad's chevelle when we did the TKO install in fact used the same throwout bearing, Ive heard of some people having problems with Wilwood masters, something about the internal spring in the master becoming unseated and causing problems, My setup has a Tilton master but the design is different enough not to have the issues of the wilwood. Not sure which master you have just a thought though.
Hope this might help, Jake

Tom.A

01-15-2011, 11:10 PM

So I pulled the transmission out and measured for the TOB again.
I came up with 3.08" from face of bell to high point of the clutch fingers.
The TOB on the spline compressed measured 2.47" from the bearing face to the mounting face on TKO so that left a delta of .610". I originally had only three concial spacers which are .100". I added another one which gave me a total of .400" or a .210" gap. The Classic Motorsports instructions indicate it must be a min of .125" gap to max of .225". Put the trans back. I now have a clutch feel. I pulled it out under it's own power which was cool, but the thing does not go into any gear easy running or not running. I did some searches and seems Tremec had some issues a few years back with shifter lug tolerances. I don't know if that is the issue or not or not but IIRC I bought mine back in 07. I was thinking clutch engagement is still off but don't know yet. I seem to recall trying to shifting it on the floor out the car a long time back and thinking it was harsh and not defined.
Here is a vid of the drive. I spliced it together to make it shorter
_1xnVjU9yKs

I have no exhaust or seats mounted yet...just a wooden stand for a seat:unibrow:

Hmm. here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1xnVjU9yKs

The WidowMaker

01-16-2011, 06:20 PM

i dont think the tko is the issue. those problems were mainly during high rpm shifting. ive done a bunch of searching in the last few days deciding what i wanted to do about my tko and i didnt read anything about the issues youre having.

good to see it moving!!!!

Flash68

01-16-2011, 07:49 PM

Steve68

01-17-2011, 05:31 AM

Tom, I need you help agian with the wheels, what kind of lug nuts did you use, I tried to order some through Summit and all I got was a conversation of stupid, thanks

Tom.A

01-17-2011, 01:08 PM

Tom, I need you help agian with the wheels, what kind of lug nuts did you use, I tried to order some through Summit and all I got was a conversation of stupid, thanks

Hi Steve,

I looked and my notes and these are what I bought:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-7540026/

Tom.A

01-17-2011, 01:26 PM

Great to see it cruising down the road! :thumbsup:

I agree on the TKO itself unlikely being the issue. Like Tim said above. I've spent hours on that subject researching threads, various sites, and phone calls as well.

i dont think the tko is the issue. those problems were mainly during high rpm shifting. ive done a bunch of searching in the last few days deciding what i wanted to do about my tko and i didnt read anything about the issues youre having.

good to see it moving!!!!

Thanks Dave and Tim,
And you guys are correct in that it was not the shifter lugs as it turns out my Hurst shifter was a little loose causing it to bind :lolhit: . I mounted my Kirkey seat with some Wedge engineering brackets I had. They are are not made for the seat but will for now and much safer until I can weld in the new mounts. I added some more gas and took for a quick spin. It seems to shift fine. I have a ton of work ahead but man driving the thing for a few minutes felt awesome :woot: I just barely tapped the pedal and the thing fish-tailed at roll. I guess I was surprised as I did not expect that a stock LS3 would feel so good. Bare in mind this thing has been a dead horse for many years so it has been a while since I have driven anything with that kind of power.
I need to get exhaust and a few things now so I will likely have no more test drives till then. But I can't wait.
wwIM33SyQiA

olds87

01-17-2011, 01:30 PM

Your car sounds nice. Keep it up. :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal

01-17-2011, 01:34 PM

Hey Tom - she looks great in the wind and sounds great too! Congrats on getting her movin'...:thumbsup:

Steve68

01-17-2011, 01:58 PM

Thanks Tom, I'll check those out!,

car looks good, seems to be missing some body panels, the kids comment are classic!

Tom.A

01-17-2011, 02:14 PM

Thanks Guys.

Steve you are correct I am missing a few pieces :rofl: I actually have all the sheet metal. I just needed some motivation and now have found some. I did not want to spend another dime till I drove it.

01-17-2011, 02:43 PM

Your nova is looking killer!

tones2SS

01-17-2011, 04:08 PM

Very nice Tom.
Sounds nice and mean.:thumbsup: :cheers:

coolwelder62

01-17-2011, 05:20 PM

coolwelder62

01-27-2011, 06:49 PM

HeyTom, Where did you pick up those cool body mounts.:thumbsup: Scott

Tom.A

01-27-2011, 10:51 PM

Congrat's Tom.I am sorry,Some how I have missed this thread.Wow!! awesome job.My very first car was a 69 chevelle. I love those thing's and would really like to find another some day.I am going to make sure I keep up on this build.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Scott

Thanks Scott.

Hey Brian, Where did you pick up those cool body mounts.:thumbsup: Scott

The delrin ones were made by a member here with screen name latenight72.

Thanks

coolwelder62

02-20-2011, 07:25 PM

Hey Tom,Any updates on this cool project.:thumbsup: Scott

olds87

03-18-2011, 05:21 PM

Any updates Tom?

Tom.A

03-18-2011, 08:46 PM

Any updates Tom?

I got a windshield and a basic exhaust system on it (dumps before the rear axle). I plan to run like that and hopefully later mod my Ricks tank or possibly get one with shaved corners and clearence for a Fays 2 watts link and 3" exhaust. The muffler shop was only about a mile away so I drove it home. I still need to get an alignment badly but the mile drive was enough to know my remote oil lines still leak. I can't get the -12 AN to seal at the pan. The area is real tight. I am using Earls but just ordered some XRP lines and fittings.
I not 100% sure but I think not only is it leaking there but it have another leak in the seam. I am hoping that it is flinging oil from the lines if it is not well I don't know. Changing the pan means pulling the engine which will suck.
I should have the lines on Monday so we will see. I have the fenders, hood and trunk on but need to get them aligned better and all in one color primer.
It kinda a spotted mut
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/2011-02-05_13-54-47_254.jpg

waynieZ

03-18-2011, 10:10 PM

Its looking good. I may be crazy but I like that primer color.

65_LS1_T56

03-19-2011, 04:06 AM

Hmmmm....x2 on the primer. Weird, but I like it too for some reason.
Nice build btw.

BanditDave

03-19-2011, 05:05 AM

X3 on the primer...it just looks angry!

And btw, did you touch the suspension recently? If not then it has settled some and the rears look a lot better!

Awesome car man and congrats on driving it!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Steve68

03-19-2011, 06:42 AM

I like the color of the primer too, and you know I'm a fan of the wheels!! looks good,

GregWeld

03-19-2011, 07:01 AM

^^^^^^^^^^ what he said! LOL

The shadows and the primer color really give it a tasty look.

Sorry 'bout the leaking fittings.... Heres's trick that I use... I sneak up on the tightening -- and loosen it... and tighten a little more... loosen and tighten some more. Makes the two surfaces bed into each other.

That -- and there are "flare savers" -- copper "washers" you can get for 37* AN fittings. Put one between them and bingo problem solved.

Here's a link:

http://www.purechoicemotorsports.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=187/category_id=74/home_id=74/mode=prod/prd187.htm

Tom.A

03-19-2011, 12:01 PM

Thanks guy's for the nice words. I had the primer tinted wirth a drab olive color trying to look like the F-bomb which was actually paint. It did not come out the same but still looked better than gray.

X3 on the primer...it just looks angry!

And btw, did you touch the suspension recently? If not then it has settled some and the rears look a lot better!

Yes, you are correct it just settled.

^^^^^^^^^^ what he said! LOL

That -- and there are "flare savers" -- copper "washers" you can get for 37* AN fittings. Put one between them and bingo problem solved.

Here's a link:

http://www.purechoicemotorsports.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=187/category_id=74/home_id=74/mode=prod/prd187.htm

Greg, Thanks for the tip. I did not know they made that big. I am going to order some if the new fittings don't work. :thumbsup:

Tom.A

04-05-2011, 10:22 PM

I changed my remote oil lines to XRP fittings and hose and they cured the oil line leaking. Still have a little leak somewhere but it is small. I got the front end aligned Today. Seat belts are next but I jumped on the I-10 freeway for a run through the gears on the way home. It was fun but I can't help feel a little nervous over every little noise :_paranoid . I think it stems from you have turned a wrench on every bolt on this car and wondered how many or what I missed;) The car seems real rowdy right now because of the lack of side/rear windows, carpet, door panels etc.
The valve train seems very noisy while driving but again it is hard to tell right now. Power seems to be crisp and good although it has a slight miss so I know I will need to get a tune. I am so glad I bypassed the paint part for now because the driving/running part has refueled this on & off again project for me. I still look forward to getting done with paint and all but for now I will continue to work out all the kinks. I hope to get the spotted mutt in one solid primer color in the next few weeks.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chevelle45.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chevelle46.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/chevelle47.jpg

coolwelder62

04-06-2011, 04:56 AM

Tom,Super cool.I think every car builder get's those feeling's.:thumbsup: Just stay at it.:thumbsup: Scott

GregWeld

04-06-2011, 06:44 AM

If you have valvetrain noise that exceeds your windowless ride.... you'd better run that rack again - 'cause that's just not right IMHO.

Love the looks of this car - even in it's coat of many colors! LOL

BanditDave

04-06-2011, 07:18 AM

Hey man,

Looking real good...I am doing the same thing as you. I am going to get all the underpinnings nailed down first then get her painted. I will get her all in a single coat of primer but for now that will be as far as she goes. I want to drive my toy this summer...period.

You are great motivation man! :thumbsup:

Dave

waynieZ

04-06-2011, 02:44 PM

That drive must have felt great.

tones2SS

04-06-2011, 05:02 PM

Great progress Tom.

The WidowMaker

04-06-2011, 08:10 PM

great job! its going to be hard to paint it once its all in one shade of the green. its going to look too good to paint.

Tom.A

04-06-2011, 10:31 PM

Thanks guy's :cheers:

Flash68

04-10-2011, 11:22 PM

Looking great Tom! :thumbsup:

67ragtp

04-11-2011, 04:32 AM

Thats a nice looking car, like the stance. Stay at it. :thumbsup:

Rich

Tom.A

05-11-2011, 10:49 PM

I had been trying to get my car to my brother's shop but kept getting put off due to the booth always full etc :( . So I went and bought a Harbor freight HLVP spray gun for $39.00 and sprayed it myself in my garage. I spent a lot time covering things up the garage as overspray sucks. Note for other newbie DYI sprayers, wetting the floor down prior not only keeps dust down but also helps from overspray sticking to the floor.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/2011-05-08_17-03-26_654.jpg
It turned okay, a few light spots. The lighting made it hard to see. I needed a little bigger compressor but this will work for now. I plan to have a pro paint maybe this winter.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/2011-05-08_18-00-08_265.jpg
I really need some of the World Famous DFRESH gap spray from Ironworks:D
Maybe they will hook me up.......

Tom.A

05-11-2011, 10:51 PM

Here is some more pictures from outside Today
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3525.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3522.jpg

Flash68

05-11-2011, 10:53 PM

Tom, that looks bad ass man! Love it! :thumbsup:

Tom.A

05-11-2011, 10:58 PM

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3530.jpg
I messed around with some tape making Gran Sport stripes. I know they maybe a little played out but I kind of like them. My wife kinda laughed at me like I some 40 year old ricky racer :lol:

I have most of the quirks fixed now need to do some more clean up. I don't trust my welding to do the seat bracket harness so hopefully the guy built my cage to do it next week. I really want those in before I venture to far from home. Here is the interior shot...need to do just about everything in there.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3531.jpg
Here is the engine. I plan to redo the CAI soon.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3535.jpg

Tom.A

05-11-2011, 10:59 PM

Tom, that looks bad ass man! Love it! :thumbsup:

Thanks Dave.

scottysimp7

05-11-2011, 11:34 PM

Man, love this build. Love the wheel set up and stance. You dont need to run 335's to have a sweet badass ride! Looks great:thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal

05-12-2011, 12:46 AM

Awesome Tom. I can't wait to see your car in person! :thumbsup:

coolwelder62

05-12-2011, 06:06 AM

Tom it's looking real good.:thumbsup: Scott M.

cencalc6

05-12-2011, 06:17 AM

Great Job,What's your wheel sizes? :thumbsup:

strtcar

05-12-2011, 06:44 AM

Looks great

bad.samaritan

05-12-2011, 10:46 AM

Just got done reading the whole thread, awesome build Tom!

05-12-2011, 12:24 PM

Looks damn good!

The WidowMaker

05-12-2011, 12:42 PM

nice buddy!!!

awr68

05-12-2011, 02:13 PM

Coming along nicely! Congrats....a huge step closer!

56pickup

05-12-2011, 05:18 PM

looks Great! love the stance and wheels! :thumbsup:

Tom.A

05-12-2011, 06:22 PM

Thanks for the comments guy's. I am pretty excited even though the car is far from done. Like many projects it has sat aside while kids and work take priority. I was looking at some old pictures when I bought the car for $500.00 I might have got ripped :lol:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/img060.jpg
And then before I found this site..I was a little Joe dirt style
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/img069.jpg

Great Job,What's your wheel sizes? :thumbsup:

Rear 18" x 11" (305/35/18) Front 18x9.5" (275/40/18)

6D9

05-12-2011, 09:19 PM

Love this car!!!!

tones2SS

05-16-2011, 05:23 PM

Looking good Tom. Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:

coolwelder62

05-16-2011, 05:36 PM

Tom,I really think the tree hugger's would be proud of you for doing a great job of recycling and keeping that pile of rusting scrap metal from ruining the local land fill.We all should rebuild a classic car and save the world.:lol:Hey AL Gore what do you think about the recycling us car guy's are doing.:lol:

Tom.A

05-16-2011, 10:20 PM

Thanks guys.

Scott yes it was a turd but actually the floor pans and quarters are original. The biggest problem was a vinyl top seem gathered water settig in a field for years and rusted but that has been repaired.

Jims78elky

05-16-2011, 10:45 PM

I have most of the quirks fixed now need to do some more clean up. I don't trust my welding to do the seat bracket harness so hopefully the guy built my cage to do it next week. I really want those in before I venture to far from home. Here is the interior shot...need to do just about everything in there.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3531.jpg

Looking good Tom, can you tell me where you got your headlight switch from
I would appreciate it, so what color are you planning to paint when you get there?

Keep up the great work! :cheers:

MattWash08

05-17-2011, 03:34 AM

Love the color of the primer and I have always loved that bodystyle :thumbsup:

I actually wouldnt mind seeing my mustang in a tinted primer like that! :yes:

Tom.A

05-17-2011, 11:13 AM

Looking good Tom, can you tell me where you got your headlight switch from
I would appreciate it, so what color are you planning to paint when you get there?

Keep up the great work! :cheers:

The switch came in the AAW Hwy 22 kit
http://www.americanautowire.com/highway22.html

I am not sure what color yet, but if I was to be paiting it Today I would say Lemans Blue.

Tom.A

07-03-2011, 07:07 PM

I have been getting a little done. Seats are nice and secure with proper brackets welded in. Also got new Crow camlock 5 way's installed.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3704.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3701.jpg

I put in a Harwood Lexan rear window and it will not be staying. To flimsy and scratches real easy.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3680.jpg

Tom.A

07-03-2011, 07:11 PM

I have been going over all the bolts to be sure everything is tight for next weekend's event at California Speedway. I will be the new guy with a new car so I am sure I will make you boy's look good :lol:
Here are a few more pics

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3691.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3708.jpg

She is a little rough around the edges at first glance but everything below is new under the skin.

Tom.A

07-03-2011, 07:15 PM

I can only make it on Sunday next week but I hope to meet some of you guy's so say hi if you see me.:thumbsup:
Also I need a little input from you guy's with SA varishock coil over settings.
Is a good baseline 8 clicks? Also I think I have beded the brakes but have no idea if I need more rear brake from the prop valve. Anybody got a good starting point?

Thanks,

coolwelder62

07-03-2011, 07:29 PM

Tom,Chevelle look's awesome.Good Luck Bud.:thumbsup: Scott M.

ChevelleNV

07-05-2011, 08:01 AM

Ya, Nice looking Chevelle. I really love the satin color on it makes it look mean... :) cant wait to see it finished.

Matt@BOS

07-05-2011, 10:01 AM

Congrats on getting it on the road! I'll be out at Fontana this coming weekend and will be sure to say hi. I remember my first track outing. I finished dead last on the autocross, so maybe I can give you some pointers, on second thought, maybe I shouldn't :_paranoid

Matt

Vegas69

07-05-2011, 10:04 AM

Nice Tom, I'll see you this weekend.

waynieZ

07-05-2011, 10:39 AM

It looks great. Now go enjoy all that hard work.

kadettcqp

07-05-2011, 12:36 PM

Tom.A

07-05-2011, 12:47 PM

Thanks guy's :thumbsup:

Todd, Matt I look forward to seeing you guys and your car's on Sunday. Hopefully the NMRA guy's let me park at the event and not in the street with my garage primer job :lol:

[QUOTE=69MSA;357932 I remember my first track outing. I finished dead last on the autocross, so maybe I can give you some pointers, on second thought, maybe I shouldn't :_paranoid

Matt[/QUOTE]

I will take anything pointers I can get , LOL. Like I said I should make you boy's look really good. I have no dreams of being close to anybody. I really need better rear shocks and sway bars, but I am a little burnt on spending money so I will put it off till I learn and get more seat time.

It's just fun to drive. I ventured out on the 91FWY (always a zoo) this am for a 80 mile round trip and ran like a charm. Just trying to get more miles on it so I can mash the pedal a little more:)

Tom.A

07-05-2011, 12:53 PM

Really nice car. I do like the primered-look and I plan to do the same with my own car once I get close to where I can actually drive it. Then it is possible to fix little flaws, upgrade some stuff etc. and then give it the shining finish.

Dark satin gray sure does look absolutely bad-ass!

Thanks. I am glad I did it this way also as there are some things that I would have messed up if it was painted. The more you take it apart and put it back I get better at it. Don't get me wrong as I wished it was finished and painted.
I really am thinking A/C and heat would be nice as I enjoy driving it more than I thought. I am not sure yet but I kinda wished I went with a 6 point roll bar inpalce of the full cage. The 5 way harness is a PITA running to the store etc. If was just a roll bar I would put morris 3 way belts in it. All those options are still there so we will see.

Rick D

07-05-2011, 03:38 PM

Looking really nice Tom, I have planed on doing the same as you did. Get it altogether and then sort it out than blow it all apart to paint it. Can't wait to here how you do at California Speedway, good luck :thumbsup:

Rybar

07-05-2011, 04:00 PM

Chevelle looks Killer Tom, well done :thumbsup:

tones2SS

07-06-2011, 05:23 PM

Very nice Tom. Great updates.
Have fun!

Tom.A

07-11-2011, 10:33 PM

Yesterday I made out to the Hotchkis autocross and had a good time. Car ran good. My wife and kids were there on my first few runs so here are what pictures and a short video I have. I am glad they stopped by because I never found time to take any pictures myself.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/July2011Autocross.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/JulyAutocross2.jpg

I had a few goals one of which was not to spin out and make an azzhat out of myself on my first ever time autocrossing. Most had already had 15+ runs from the day before but they still let us walk the track on Sunday. I was walking with Rob from Hot Rod and his advice was to just drive it slow the first few times to get the nerves down. I knew he was speaking from prior knowledge as I recalled his turn 2 off track exp at the 2009 OUSCI. Well I never really got the nerves down but I also never spun out either. My first few runs were like 41.xx seconds and then 40.60. Sometimes I forgot to look and never saw the complete list as I cut out about 4 o'clock prior to awards ceremony. Then Matt (69MSA) came over and rode with me a few time and also took me around in his sweet 69which helped. I am not the best student but with Matt's help I ran a 39.20. He showed a few things how I was taking corner's wrong. I did get one of his tip's but there were others that I honestly would forget but a big thanks to Matt for taking the time :thumbsup: The 39.20 was still way off the pace as the fast cars with street tires 36.xx with alot of others running 37 thru 39's. I think 73CPCAMARO ran a 34.xx with hoosiers or something. What a nice car that is. I think I will be able to focus better next time. My short list is better tires (200 tread wear) and a more aggressive alignment. I tried the brake stop a few times but never a full run. It just did not feel right to do yet. The car has about 300 miles on it so I made up my mind to sit that event out till I get a better feel for the car. The seats combined with the down bars make it a little hard to get in out but once your in it feels good. The Kirkey seats sit nice and low with the cage tucked high. I had no problem with helmet hitting bars. All in all I am happy, slow but happy :lol: Below is my first ever autocross run. Believe it or not it seems much faster driving it then it looks.
zu9LuhVQxSU
http://www.youtube.com/user/TJA42863#p/a/u/0/zu9LuhVQxSU

6D9

07-11-2011, 11:32 PM

Car looks great Tom..:thumbsup: . Im sure it was a blast just getting it out on the open road. For me that seems to be what I like best. You did real good for the first time out on the autocross. I have never done it before and feel like Im gonna be a tool but oh well...gotta start somewhere!

Flash68

07-11-2011, 11:38 PM

Tom, congrats man! Car looks great out there and that looked like a great rookie lap to me. :thumbsup: And it's always good to shake it down a bit and drive her home with little to no issues eh? :cheers:

coolwelder62

07-12-2011, 05:05 AM

Congrat's Tom.That's awesome your chevelle worked great.:thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal

07-12-2011, 08:04 AM

Hey Tom! Car looks great with the shocks loaded looking all mean. Also sounds good when you get into the pedal. What mufflers do you have on the car? Congrats on a good weekend...:thumbsup:

7TSS

07-12-2011, 02:13 PM

Car is looking good :thumbsup:

Glad to see you having fun with it. Makes it all seem worthwhile :cheers:

Mr.VENGEANCE

07-12-2011, 02:48 PM

aww man.. this ones up my alley.

VERY good..

Tom.A

07-12-2011, 04:59 PM

Thanks Guy's :cheers:

Hey Tom! Car looks great with the shocks loaded looking all mean. Also sounds good when you get into the pedal. What mufflers do you have on the car? Congrats on a good weekend...:thumbsup:

Ron, The mufflers are Flowmaster's but I am not sure what series as they came in a A-Body 2-1/2" kit. I think they might be series 50? but they are not marked. I had a local shop install the mufflers but he was having troubles making the kit fit. So I ended up with a non mandrel bent 2-1/2" pipe , no cross over and they dumped before the rear end. The shop was a small town local hack :yes: New mufflers and exhaust system are part of a long term plan. The Ricks tank without notches (cut corners) will make it a little tricky to get over the rear end. I am think the Borla mufflers would be what I want in the future.

The WidowMaker

07-12-2011, 06:35 PM

awesome! nothing like a little extra motivation when the build is almost done.

tones2SS

07-13-2011, 05:33 PM

Very nice Tom. Looks like you had a great time.
I like your license plate!:thumbsup:

RodZZilla

07-13-2011, 06:32 PM

:thumbsup: Very Nice! I hope to find a decent candidate to do something similar. Thanks for the inspiration!

tempered

08-04-2011, 08:36 AM

where did you get the body bushings from i want a set

kevs69

08-10-2011, 11:25 PM

Tom.A

08-10-2011, 11:43 PM

where did you get the body bushings from i want a set

Sorry I missed your question. The mounts were made by a member here named Todd Sickles? I think. I can't remember his screen name. I think he made run at one time but you might try this guy as I noticed they made some aluminum http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=362760&postcount=26

Tom.A

08-10-2011, 11:51 PM

Great loking car!!!!! awesome write up on the build as well. as a owner of a 69 chevelle myself I am enjoying what you are doing to your car.
I looked thru all the pages and didnt really see anything about the suspension setup you are running. is it possible to get a run down on what you have on the car at the current time!!!!

Kevin

Thanks Kevin,

Here is the current list with changes planned as I get to it.

Front: SPC Performance Upper and lower control arms, ATS (Speedtech) Spindles, Varishock coil overs, single adjustable with 650# springs
Sway bar is a stock OEM (i think 7/8" diameter)
Rear: Currie adjustable arms, with Bilstein shock and Speedway 5.5" 225# coil springs, no rear bar yet

Fikse Wheels

08-11-2011, 11:14 AM

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/IMG_3680.jpg

Great taste in wheels :thumbsup:

Nice build!

coolwelder62

12-17-2011, 07:14 PM

Tom,Any update's.Scott.:thumbsup:

Tom.A

12-17-2011, 11:26 PM

Tom,Any update's.Scott.:thumbsup:

Hi Scott, No real big updates. I got the transmission back in after replacing the hydraulic TOB but only put about 100 miles. I also changed the tires to 200 tread. I went with 275/35/18 on front and 295/35/18 on the rear in a NT05 Nitto. I had nitto drag radials on the back before but wanted to have the required tires for autocross events. The LS3 is just stock but the NT05 seemed to not hook at all. I went for a drive Today and it fish tails a lot through third. Some of you guys with 550+ HP must really have to be careful because the rear wants to come around on my stocker.
Starting next week I plan to shim the motor mounts to make it higher for oil/tie rod problem. It has been cold (i know that sounds funny in Southern California) so I have not been in the garage much. I really want to get some things more tidy before the El Toro event but if not I will just roll out with my huge gaps and primer, no carpet, no anything :lol:

coolwelder62

12-18-2011, 07:58 AM

That's Great.:thumbsup:I really like this build.

GregWeld

12-18-2011, 08:43 AM

Flash68

12-18-2011, 07:36 PM

Lookin fwd to seein this at RTTC Tom! :thumbsup:

Tom.A

12-18-2011, 09:37 PM

If the rear end is wanting to "come around" -- you need to get back to an alignment shop and have 'em do a 4 wheel alignment. My guess is you're "out of square" just a bit on the rear end. I had that on the Nomad... and it was only about a 1/8" "out" but that caused it to push the rear off line. Once the guy squared it up -- she launches hard and straight as an arrow.

Greg, Thanks. I think you might have a good point. A while back I developed a rub on drivers side tire with my old tires. I scratched my head while wondering what happened. I thought the body had shifted but it was snug plus the car cage bars that tie into the frame so it can't go far anyway. After thinking and searching the forums I realized my upper adjustable rear control arms were not tight. I then dialed the rear end back to where I thought it should be and the rubbing was gone. I then changed the tires so it seems the rear very well could be off. I will add that to my list and thanks again as I would not have never thought about it:thumbsup:

Tom.A

12-18-2011, 09:38 PM

Lookin fwd to seein this at RTTC Tom! :thumbsup:

Dave, I also look forward to going and seeing some of you guy's. I should make you all look good with my lack of driving skills :lol:

hoover

05-18-2012, 04:44 PM

nice ride tom. is that primer finish? how long do those finishes usually last without the top coat? or is it finished in matte grey paint?

Tom.A

05-18-2012, 09:35 PM

nice ride tom. is that primer finish? how long do those finishes usually last without the top coat? or is it finished in matte grey paint?

It is just primer (UPOL I think). It has been on over a year however the car only has about 900 miles on it so needless to say it has spent very little time in the sun.
It does not stain that bad like the primer they made years ago. I wash it with a little squirt of simple green to remove the grease:lol: . Some day I will get some color but it sure is nice not to worry about nice paint.

Tom.A

09-14-2012, 11:21 PM

I had fun with the car last week at the Socal Challenge. I put about 20 hours the week prior just looking for loose bolts. I was looking for any issues etc and noticed the driver side coil over was blown out.
The threads ripped out of the lower body
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/2012-09-03_11-28-36_26.jpg
I never felt there was any travel from day one. I have no idea how long it was like this as the car was always firm. I have SPC arms which have a built in drop which made the already short shock shorter. I used 650LB springs at the time. These Varishocks were going to be changed down the road as I already purchased Ridetech rear coil overs so this just moved the fronts up on the priority list. I called Ridetech in the middle of the week and they shipped me a set front single adjustables the same day via Fedex. I went with 700LB spring at their suggestion (225 rear). What was really nice is they have options that will extend the shock. I was not sure which one I needed so I bought both the standard height and the extended. I tried the standard first and needed to raise the car more.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/2012-09-07_09-06-12_470.jpg
Mike @ Ridetech advised that I would need to use a little heat from a torch and some wood to keep from crushing the shaft.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/2012-09-07_14-09-18_217.jpg
They use thread lock on these and for a while I was loosing this battle. I am sure it is easy with the fixture they use.

Tom.A

09-14-2012, 11:40 PM

This picture shows my old and new (with standard height before I changed) coilover. The Ridetech shock is far superior in feel quality. The other brand looked and felt like junk imo. I am really please with the ride and performance.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/passperf/2012-09-07_09-06-48_809.jpg
Here is how the stance is currently. The Factory Five Cobra is my brother in laws
*Edit my photobucket won't let me upload so I am trying Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8029/7987584153_7e1122d0e3_b.jpg
Here are a few installed pictures front and rear.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8315/7987475453_bba76eac3b_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8321/7987482738_a7a364fb18_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7987482674_f5bdd12ebf_b.jpg

Tom.A

09-14-2012, 11:47 PM

Front:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/7987601395_8b36c2b7f8_b.jpg

For the price I think these are some of the best shocks:thumbsup:

Not only did my ride improve but I picked 2-3 seconds at the Adams AMP track from last March. Shocks and tire pressure were the only things that I changed. I still don't have and id do any shock adjustments yet. This is the main reason I went with single adjustable as it will be a learning curve for me.

Tom.A

09-14-2012, 11:59 PM

I am going over the car again getting ready for Return to the Coast event.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8295/7987481862_764e7915c9_b.jpg

I was pleased when I compared my times with some of the others at the track and while I would run one lap good I would be drifting another. This is a pic I borrowed from TCI
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8174/7987619589_4d179448c1_b.jpg
Not my fastest lap:lol:
I made a call to Tobin @ KORE3 for some Hawk pads he suggested. I also felt I might be cooking the DOT 3 brake fluid so he suggested I move to DOT4.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/7987474867_579ef2450e_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8462/7987474487_4bfcf902bc_b.jpg

Tobin is great to deal with and when I reach another level of driving I will be upgrading again with KORE3:thumbsup:

Tom.A

09-15-2012, 12:08 AM

I put the pads on Today and drained the fluid. As always something simple as bleeding the brakes turns into a pain
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8306/7987474521_063c63c10a_b.jpg
So I changed out a bleeder and was using my pressure bleeder which works good with one person.............that is until the hose springs a leak at the front and you see brake fluid spraying while behind on your back under the rear:willy:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8447/7987640153_d93925806c_b.jpg
I called it a evening and will tackle it this weekend