Project Sinister Update:

[96z28ss]

Well Its been a long time since the car has been worked on.
I had alot of life type things that had to be taken care of before the car could get worked on again.

I loosely hung all the sheet metal on the car and, put it on a trailer to have the guys at Bruning Auto Design get all the door gaps perfect, and the panels aligned correctly. I wanted the doors to look like a modern european car with the nice tight gaps.

The Guys at B.A.D. are top notch. Tim is a top notch fabricator that worked on both the Realmad and Newmad at Steve's Auto Restoration. I think in just a few short years B.A.D. will be one of the Northwest's top shop to have your car worked on. Here is there current project http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=11358

Here are some pics they sent me on the progress of the car. There are some cool mods that will be done to the car, I just got to make sure I don't go way over budget. Some of the real cool stuff might not happen till later this year or next. As I get new pics I'll keep this updated.


http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC01487.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-15-08_008_driver_before.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-15-08_009_driver_in_process.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-15-08_013_driver_after.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-15-08_014_driver_after.jpg

[96z28ss]

oops Pics are way too big I'm working on getting them smaller and posted.
edit: okay much smaller they were like poster size

[DOOM]

:willy: :drool: Can't wait to see!!!

[tjbruning]

:willy: :drool: Can't wait to see!!!


me too!

thank you for the kind words Bob... :cool:

[awr68]

Nice work Tim!! Can't wait to see it progress!!!

[waynieZ]

Looks good keep the pictures comming .
Wayne

[96z28ss]

Some more pics.
The gaps at the bottoms of the doors were pretty big, so they added some metal to them, and closed the gap so all the gaps on the car are even.
Also they filled in the front camaro emblem holes. It feels good to know they are great metal fabricators and welders.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-21-08_018.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-21-08_019.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-21-08_021.JPG

[syborg tt]

looks really nice

[DOOM]

Some more pics.
The gaps at the bottoms of the doors were pretty big, so they added some metal to them, and closed the gap so all the gaps on the car are even.
Also they filled in the front camaro emblem holes. It feels good to know they are great metal fabricators and welders.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-21-08_018.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-21-08_019.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/4-21-08_021.JPG

Would love to know how they do this!! I'll be doing this to mine,but tring to figure out what method to use..:cheers:

[Rybar]

Looks good man, glad you are back on track. :thumbsup: Last I remembered your car was at Wayne Due's shop.

[96z28ss]

Some of the latest pics. Got most of the front end fitting great.
We'll be working on some cool stuff for the car soon.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/5-8-08-01_033.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/5-8-08-01_035.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/5-8-08-01_040.JPG

[syborg tt]

looks really good

[viper11]

Would love to know how they do this!! I'll be doing this to mine,but tring to figure out what method to use..:cheers:

usually you weld/mig extra metal on the lips and grind/file to shape it
jason
p.s or just use bondo lol:thumbsup:

[tjbruning]

usually you weld/mig extra metal on the lips and grind/file to shape it
jason
p.s or just use bondo lol:thumbsup:

Filler has its place, but not for building up door edges IMO. :_paranoid

Material was tig welded to the bottom edge. The edge is metal worked then ground/gapped to the rocker.

:cool:

[GHOSTDANCER]

Looks good :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[customcam]

Nice work guys
OT any new developments on the Chally?

[awr68]

Coming along nicely!
Bob did you get the new SC yet?

[96z28ss]

Coming along nicely!
Bob did you get the new SC yet?

No I have not.
I'm playing the waiting game I hope it comes next week.
They said they were waiting for parts from there supplier, whatever that means.

[tjbruning]

Nice work guys
OT any new developments on the Chally?

Yes. :D

I will posting some updates in the next couple weeks...

[customcam]

Cool, iv missed the updates Tj lol :thumbsup:

[96z28ss]

okay latest update is the front bumper.
I have looked at lots of 69 camaro's with metal bumpers and endura bumpers.
Some look nice and tight and some look like they are pulled away from the body too much.
I just like the look of a tucked in bumper. Tim has been busy tucking the front bumper. Also I don't plan on running a front plate so I had him get rid of the license plate fangs on the bumper. The rear is next.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-7-2-update_008.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-7-2-update_009.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-7-2-update_010.jpg

[waynieZ]

I like it looks good
Wayne

[DaveO]

Great work guys!:thumbsup:

[96z28ss]

Here are a couple pics with a better perspective of how much the bumper is tucked in.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-9-08-bumper003.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-9-08-bumper004.JPG

[Jr]

What happened with the pro charger?

[96z28ss]

Still got a procharger. I had the GTO brackets but it doesn't fit in engine compartment so you have to use the Corvette brackets.
here is a shot of it in place.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/Pro_Charger_003.JPG

[Jr]

Nice. What radiator will fit...looks tight?

[awr68]

everything is looking great!! :thumbsup:

[tjbruning]

New hidden bumper mounts finished. Ready to fill the stock bracket holes in the lower valance.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7268/724updates007hy8.jpg

More pictures added to Bob's gallery on our website -

http://www.bruningautodesign.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2586

[syborg tt]

nice update

[96z28ss]

Front Bumper is done!! The holes where the bumper bracket goes thru is covered up also. There will be some more mods to the front but thats it for now.

Rear Bumper updates to come......

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-16-08_062.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-16-08_064.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-30-08_4.JPG

[Ricochet]

Nice work!! I like the treatment on the bumpers - plus the holes being filled will make it look clean!! :thumbsup:

Brent

[camcojb]

very nice fit.................... :thumbsup:

Jody

[Datsbad]

very nice fit.................... :thumbsup:

Jody

Yes very nice.
Should be done to all camaros in my opinion

[awr68]

Looks great! Nice, tight, and clean looking!! I need to make my way over there!!

[96z28ss]

Well the bumpers on 1st gen Camaros look like they were an after thought,
especially the rear bumper. The rear bumper looks so out of place. Its one continuous shape all the way around and the ends extend to far and they are real close to the side marker lights.

The treatment that we are going to do to the rear bumper is going to be pretty cool.

[tones2SS]

Looks great! Nice, tight, and clean looking!! I need to make my way over there!!

I agree with the nice and tight fit. Makes the front end look way better.:thumbsup: :cheers:

[96z28ss]

They got the car outside for a couple pics.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-26_stance_002.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-26_stance_010.JPG

[awr68]

Looks awesome guys!! That Tim sure can clean up the lines on a car!! :yes:

[rjsjea]

:thumbsup: ...looks awesome

[awr68]

Have they ever had the inners in the car yet? That's when mine got real....interesting! :_paranoid

[96z28ss]

The inners were in the car at some point. not sure if the front end was fit with them in. The inners need to be modified anyways cause of the C5 control arms.

TJ can chime in here and say if the inners were fit while gapping the car.

most likely they will throw the fitment off then they can tack on more hours to fix it and make more money isn't that how shops work... :D :thumbsup: :unibrow:

[tjbruning]

The inners were in the car at some point. not sure if the front end was fit with them in. The inners need to be modified anyways cause of the C5 control arms.

TJ can chime in here and say if the inners were fit while gapping the car.

most likely they will throw the fitment off then they can tack on more hours to fix it and make more money isn't that how shops work... :unibrow:


Ouch! :faint:

The inners were installed during the initial panel fitment and also for bumper bracket/headlight assembly mockup. The door to quarter, fender to door, fender to hood fitment/gaps won't change (unless you decide to do the bodywork yourself :D ). Minor adjustments can/will be made to each panel at the hinges, etc.

The inner fenders were removed since they need to be modified for your subframe, but bumpers were higher on the list. We could have installed them and then charged you to remove them at a later date. Another good way to tack on more hours.... :unibrow:

[96z28ss]

The inners were installed during the initial panel fitment and also for bumper bracket/headlight assembly mockup. The door to quarter, fender to door, fender to hood fitment/gaps won't change (unless you decide to do the bodywork yourself :D ). Minor adjustments can/will be made to each panel at the hinges, etc.

The inner fenders were removed since they need to be modified for your subframe, but bumpers were higher on the list. We could have installed them and then charged you to remove them at a later date. Another good way to tack on more hours.... :unibrow:


See Tony they know what their doing.

LOL!!:bow: :hail: :P

[96z28ss]

Rear Bumper updates.

Rear tail panel was cut and a channel was made for the bumper be recessed in.
The car is really starting to take shape. It really does change the whole look of the car.

Things will get trimmed and smoothed out and it will flow better.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/7-30-08_8.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/Header_8-4-08_5.JPG

[awr68]

It's very nice to see all this attention to detail.........

[awr68]

....after all, what else is there to do to a '69 to make it differant!?! :lol:

[96z28ss]

....after all, what else is there to do to a '69 to make it differant!?! :lol:

ouch!!

[awr68]

ouch!!

TJ made me say it!! :_paranoid

[tjbruning]

TJ made me say it!! :_paranoid

Maybe lower it an inch or two??? :unibrow:

[rjsjea]

Maybe lower it an inch or two??? :unibrow:

BINGO!!!.....sorry Bob. Gotta take Tim and TJ's side on this one

[96z28ss]

BINGO!!!.....sorry Bob. Gotta take Tim and TJ's side on this one

Its fine, I plan on driving it more than you guys think.
Don't you guy ever go down neighborhoods where there are big speed bumps.

If I lower the car too much I won't be able to visit the shop when the car is done. I'll have to park my car on the street and walk a 1/4 mile down the driveway to the shop.

[96z28ss]

Most of the trimming is done on the tail panel.

Also I didn't like the way most of the camaros looked with tucked bumpers the ends have way too much of an arc and look like an old truck bumper. So Tim and his awesome abilities at metal fabrication, hammered and reshaped the ends of the bumper. Giving the front and rear more of a matching appearance.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/Header_8-4-08_7.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-12-08_032.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-12-08_033.JPG

[tjbruning]

Its fine, I plan on driving it more than you guys think.
Don't you guy ever go down neighborhoods where there are big speed bumps.

If I lower the car too much I won't be able to visit the shop when the car is done. I'll have to park my car on the street and walk a 1/4 mile down the driveway to the shop.

ground clearance

[awr68]

bumper looks real good!! :thumbsup:

The only time my car leaves my house it's on a trailer...so it can sit good and low!! :lol: I'm sure once Pete works his magic I will get real seat time!! :woot:

[HWY Nova]

I had the oppotunity to see SINISTER in person recently. My wife and I stopped by the shop on our cross-country vacation.

SINISTER looks great in-person. Photos are nice, but there is nothing like seeing it in person, especially in this stage of the project.

Keep up the great work...... and I'm glad to hear that you plan on driving the car a lot. These (our) cars should be driven!


--Eric

[DOOM]

HI GUY'S
I hope this is'nt a dumb question. On he rear bumper did you fabricate the ends or did you cut down the originals??
Mario

[tjbruning]

I had the oppotunity to see SINISTER in person recently. My wife and I stopped by the shop on our cross-country vacation.

SINISTER looks great in-person. Photos are nice, but there is nothing like seeing it in person, especially in this stage of the project.

Keep up the great work...... and I'm glad to hear that you plan on driving the car a lot. These (our) cars should be driven!


--Eric

Thanks Eric, we enjoyed your visit and glad to see you made it home safely.

HI GUY'S
I hope this is'nt a dumb question. On he rear bumper did you fabricate the ends or did you cut down the originals??
Mario

We modified the stock ends. Looked into modifying 69' front bumper ends, but the peak wouldn't have the same effect on the back.

[96z28ss]

more shots of the rear bumper and shows how the ends were reshaped to give the bumper more of a similar look to the front. The stock rear bumper just looked to much of a bubble.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-18_updates_007.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-18_updates_010.JPG

I like how they use the quarter panel as a sketch pad.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-26_stance_003.JPG

This shot also shows where the license plate recess on the bumper was shortened to match the opening in the rear valance.
From the factory the bumper opening is wider than the valance.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-26_stance_005.JPG

[rjsjea]

The rear looks way cool.....:D

Bumper treatment may have to be in line for my car now...

[awr68]

Next time you are out there you should start taking the tape off the wheels..that might take a while! What's it been two years? :_paranoid

cars looking great Bob/BAD!!

[tjbruning]

Next time you are out there you should start taking the tape off the wheels..that might take a while! What's it been two years? :_paranoid

cars looking great Bob/BAD!!

Thanks Anthony. Of all the things Bob would change, the use of "Home Depot" blue tape would probably be number 1. :)

[96z28ss]

here is a picture of the way the car is sitting now.

Plenty of ride height to drive down gravel roads

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8-26-08_stance1.JPG

[Jr]

I read that you dropped the supercharger off for mock up. Where do they/you want it mounted?

[96z28ss]

In my car the supercharger is mounted already. I let them use it for mock up on Neds cuda.

[Jr]

Do you have any new pics? What radiator did you go with?

[DRJDVM's '69]

Any thank you for that :)

Good news is it looks like it will all fit if I do decide to go with the Procharger...thats still up in the air right now, but now I know its still possible.

[96z28ss]

Here is an update,
Since there has been so much talk about Billet door handles, I thought I'd give a sneak peak at what Tim did for my new door handles.
This is just a teaser, I will not show the final door handle till its done.

Tim made a die, to stamp the metal, to give it the correct shape and to have both sides match exactly.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/039.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/003.JPG

Tig welded to the door and then cleaned up.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/004.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/008.JPG

[HWY Nova]

.

Tim made a die to stamp the metal to give it the correct shape and to have both sides match exactly.



Who is this "Tim" guy anyway?....... It sounds like he knows what he's doing!!!


--Eric

[tjbruning]

Bob, thought you were going soft for a minute there... :unibrow:

[awr68]

The final product is SEXY...yeah it's nice to live near Bruning! :cheers:

[96z28ss]

Been a long time since an update.
There were some things that I wanted changed on the rear bumper and tail panel, after staring at it for a long time I made up my mind and went ahead and changed it. Also the tail panel was a repo part and the stamping just wasn't good around the tail lights and other areas. I had the original from when they cut it out, so Tim decided he wanted to put that one on there.
It looks alot better. I machined a die and stamped the shape I need for the fuel door, it makes it look like it was meant to be there.

Here are some teaser pics. from iphone. Real pics will come as soon as i get them off the camera.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/9-21-09_update1.jpg

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/9-21-09_update2.jpg

[awr68]

Sweet, it's back at BAD!! Looks good...what's next!! :unibrow:

[96z28ss]

lots of things on the wish list just not sure what will get done.
I'm still operating on my paycut at work, if I could get that back it would help speed things up. Plan is to finish stuff working from the rear to the front of the car.

[awr68]

Well, do what you can! And I think it's a great idea to finish something and move onto another part of the car...jumping around doesn't really get you to the finish line!

[Al Moreno]

Fuel Filler is looking good, I like it.

I can't see what changes to the bumpers and tail pan were enhance from the previous mods. Can you elaborate?

Thanks, keep the pics coming.

[96z28ss]

Fuel Filler is looking good, I like it.

I can't see what changes to the bumpers and tail pan were enhance from the previous mods. Can you elaborate?

Thanks, keep the pics coming.

The ends of the bumpers were changed to be a bit more flat. Hard to explain the change without seeing it in person. It was an improvement.
The tail panel chage was the addition of the fuel door, but also changeing the tail panel out for an original GM one, the stamping is much better especially around the tail lights. Also the repo driver side rear quarter were it meets the tail panel had to be reshaped cause it didn't match the passenger side.

[68/Camaro]

Excellent work going on here!!:thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

She's looking good.
Keep up the great work and keep us posted.:thumbsup:

[96z28ss]

Here are some better pictures to see the changes.
Bumper lines were sharpened a bit and the corner of the rear quarter had to be reshaped to match the passenger side rear quarter.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/9-29-09update.jpg

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/9-29-09update1.jpg

[rjsjea]

Fuel filler is way cool.....:cool:

[96z28ss]

Some pics I got off the camera finally.

Here is the stamp die I made to recess the fuel door. I machined it and pressed the pins in to keep everything aligned as it gets pressed.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1030186.JPG

Close up shot of the filler door all in place now. The Ricks Stainless tank was also modified to get the filler to the new location and everything lines up great. Tim did a great job on this.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1030198.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1030201.JPG

Here are the final shots of what the rear bumper looks like.
I can't speak enough about how good Tim is at metal shaping. I mean the metal on the bumper is thick and he formed and reshaped the ends and makes it look like its so easy. The rear of the car is still going to get a new spoiler and the exhaust cut outs. Then the back half of the car will be done.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/rear_side2.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1030204.JPG

[DOOM]

NICEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Getting closer!!

[DOOM]

Bob I may have to rent that nifty devise from you:_paranoid

[96z28ss]

Bob I may have to rent that nifty devise from you:_paranoid

Yes the car is getting closer. I just need to decide which Billet tail light I'm going to use.

I can just stamp one and mail it out.
Maybe I should offer that fuel door and stamping. You can put it on any car I guess.

[tones2SS]

That looks awesome Bob. Great job and keep us posted!:thumbsup:

[DRJDVM's '69]

Bob.... that looks great...

Whats the diameter of the recess? I'm gonna try and use the Ridetech one but since it will be under the license plate on my car, I want to recess it too.....

[96z28ss]

The diameter is bigger than the ride tech ones.
My recess area is 4.75in diameter.

[awr68]

Looks great!! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Looks great Bob!

:thumbsup:

[DOOM]

Yes the car is getting closer. I just need to decide which Billet tail light I'm going to use.

I can just stamp one and mail it out.
Maybe I should offer that fuel door and stamping. You can put it on any car I guess.

Sounds good Bob! When you get a chance that would be great. Let me know what I owe you...

[70rs]

The car is looking great Bob! The changes to the bumper and rear panel really make a big difference. Much better. Tim is a master at the whole metal thing!:cheers:

[96z28ss]

Been a while since any updates.
The Exhaust is done. Here are a couple pics from my iphone. Tim cut the rear valance for exhaust to exit. It has exhaust tips that have a resonator built in, gives it a factory tip look. Also he gave the opening a rolled edge that is real nice, its not a rolled edge all the way around, it fades into the valance at the bottom.
I'll put picture of the entire exhaust system up when i get better pictures. Its a work of art. Its all 3 inchTim is working on the roll cage now.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/tail_pipe.JPG

The license plate is something I found cleaning out someones basement, I got to keep the plates. All I got to do is go 8.99 right? LOL

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8secryd.JPG

I got this plate also in the basement he must of got **** from Greg Weld.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8secHI1.jpg

[GHOSTDANCER]

Very nice rear you got going on :_paranoid :wow: :lol: :thumbsup:

[Payton King]

Very nice rear you are sportin' LOL

[syborg tt]

By far the cleanest exhaust exit i have seen

Been a while since any updates.
The Exhaust is done. Here are a couple pics from my iphone. Tim cut the rear valance for exhaust to exit. It has exhaust tips that have a resonator built in, gives it a factory tip look. Also he gave the opening a rolled edge that is real nice, its not a rolled edge all the way around, it fades into the valance at the bottom.
I'll put picture of the entire exhaust system up when i get better pictures. Its a work of art. Its all 3 inchTim is working on the roll cage now.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/tail_pipe.JPG

The license plate is something I found cleaning out someones basement, I got to keep the plates. All I got to do is go 8.99 right? LOL

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8secryd.JPG

I got this plate also in the basement he must of got **** from Greg Weld.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8secHI1.jpg

[GregWeld]

8.99 is "INTO" the 8's... Don't start with me! LOL

That guy had those plates on until I set him straight about a true 8

Looks great Bob!

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Gregs%20old%20photos/BehindthewheelMcCulluchandWhipple.jpg

[96z28ss]

By far the cleanest exhaust exit i have seen

The stainless tubing that Tim uses is polished inside and out. Its also truely round all the way thru the bend. Its like hydroformed or something. I will get the car on the lift and get better pics. The exhaust is a work of art.

[pokey64]

The stainless tubing that Tim uses is polished inside and out. Its also truely round all the way thru the bend. Its like hydroformed or something. I will get the car on the lift and get better pics. The exhaust is a work of art.

Reminds me of what we use in the dairy industry. What grade and gage is it?

Very cool car! :hail:

[GregWeld]

The stainless tubing that Tim uses is polished inside and out. Its also truely round all the way thru the bend. Its like hydroformed or something. I will get the car on the lift and get better pics. The exhaust is a work of art.

FOOD GRADE... big difference from "exhaust grade"...

[ironworks]

Looks good Bob, nice to see Tim back at it.

Rodger

[DOOM]

Bob I have to get you to stamp me one of those fuel doors

[96z28ss]

Bob I have to get you to stamp me one of those fuel doors

Oh you were serious about that? I can stamp one, did you want me to get a fuel door also cause it will only fit that stamping.

Let me know. Pm me.

[96z28ss]

Yes it is food grade stainless used in dairy and medical industries.
Super high quality.

[96z28ss]

Looks good Bob, nice to see Tim back at it.

Rodger

Yeah, he really is a nice guy and he loves working on cars.
His car has taken a back seat to customers, it is a bit more updated then the last pictures shown here.
He has a 70 chevelle on air ride at the shop that just got all buffed out. He will start assembly soon. Also has a 69 camaro convertible that was an ebay purchase, and is going thru it and fixing and changing a laundry list of stuff that new owner wants.
And of course my car.

[pmgm]

Wow... That is a nice car, all the body mods look real good..

[96z28ss]

Well I got the Roll Bar put in place its all welded in.
Im going to put some bars that go to the front but I'll put those in a bit later.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05238.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05240.JPG

Also started working on the firewall smoothing.
You can see a hint of the rear firewall behind the rear seat taking shape also.
Also made a dimple die plate for the subframe bolt access hole.
Few more things and it will be done and on to other things.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05241.JPG

Running a factory tilt steering column but We covered it up with a nice tube that it slips into.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05242.JPG

[GregWeld]

Looks great Bob!

[BBC71Nova]

Looking good. I really like the idea of the dimple died closeout for the body mount pocket.

[tones2SS]

She's looking good. Good job on the firewall.:thumbsup:

[DRJDVM's '69]

Looks great Bob.

I like the steering column tube....never seen that before. Looks cool.

[mdprovee]

Looks like it is coming together nicely. The column tube is cool, cleans it up.

[ccracin]

Looking very nice Bob. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

[awr68]

Great work/progress guys! Love all the details going into this ride! :cheers:

[96z28ss]

Well got a couple more things done.
I wanted a panel behind the rear seat so I came up with a few ideas and myself and Tim picked one.
BEFORE
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05240.JPG

AFTER
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05445.JPG

Also put the door panel on and test fit it with the seats to see what we might do for side bars.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05447.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05448.JPG

[ironworks]

That's .....SINISTER

[GregWeld]

Instead of lightening it -- I'd just add more horsey power....



EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!


Looks good Bob. :cheers:

[awr68]

Looks great! Now paint it already! ;) :thumbsup:

[mdprovee]

Looks good..I really like the back panel on it.

[tones2SS]

That's .....SINISTER

^^Indeed it is.:yes:
Very nice. Keep us posted.

[96z28ss]

Started work on the front inner fenders also. I wanted it to match the frame better and make them a bit wider for more tire clearance.
There is no need for the control arm hole to be so big so it was brought out to the edge of the control arm mount about 3/8" clearance all the way around. Also the back side was lengthened so it covers the sub frame more, keeping some tire debris off the subframe and firewall.
Tim is real good at working metal. Shrinking, stretching, and using a big hammer he made the crown in the metal and gave the front inner fenders more tire clearance.

There will be a bit more detail in them but that will be on the next update.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05453.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05452.JPG

Here is the driver side almost done.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05451.JPG

[GregWeld]

Childs play.....








If your name is Tim Badboy Bruning.....:unibrow:

[awr68]

Very nice work Tim! :hail:
Thanks for sharing, Bob! It's a much needed detail when using those frames/suspension! :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Looking really good Tim. Nice work.:thumbsup:

[syborg tt]

Looks great

[Vegas69]

Have fun aligning the car....

[96z28ss]

Have fun aligning the car....

Why? It won't be that bad and I don't plan on doing it too many times

[Vegas69]

It looks like it's going to be tricky getting shims in place.

[coolwelder62]

WOW!! looks awesome.Just get it alined before you bolt on the front sheet metal.That's what I did and worked out real nice.:thumbsup:

[96z28ss]

nah the shims will go in from outside the frame rail plenty of room to get them in and out.

[96z28ss]

Well both inners are done now.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05625.JPG

Here are some pics of the exhaust and tranny cross member, since I had a chance to get it on a lift.

Rodger isn't the only one with CAD drawings LOL!!
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/tranny_x-member.jpg

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05630.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05631.JPG

I had Stainless Works make me some mufflers that I designed. It allows the exhaust the use of the cut out or when closed, it flows thru the rest of the muffler and then out the back valance.
My neighbors are going to hate me.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05632.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05633.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05636.JPG

Tailpipes go thru the valance, with a nice bead around the opening.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/8secHI1.jpg

[ironworks]

Are you painting this red white and blue also?

[96z28ss]

maybe!
Hmm I'll talk to Ben see what it looks like in a rendering!!

[HWY Nova]

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/tranny_x-member.jpg




But who modeled it for you?....... (just kidding).....


--Eric

[Swain]

Nice work... Looks good

[waynieZ]

The car looks awesome. Sweet looking cross member.

[syborg tt]

how can i get me one of these crossmembers

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05630.JPG

[Rybar]

Everything does look awesome. Really like the x-member and exhaust.

[DOOM]

Bob I'm fly'n you azz here to Chicago so you can give me some pointers on those mad fab skills you have...:willy:

[69x22]

Looking good, wish I would have taken a little more time on the front fender wells. That radiator is probably going to be tight with the Pro Charger.

[96z28ss]

Bob I'm fly'n you azz here to Chicago so you can give me some pointers on those mad fab skills you have...:willy:

Whoa!! take it easy! I'm the man with a plan. Tim is the man with the fab skills.

[DOOM]

Whoa!! take it easy! I'm the man with a plan. Tim is the man with the fab skills.

Tim like the cold....:_paranoid

[96z28ss]

Looking good, wish I would have taken a little more time on the front fender wells. That radiator is probably going to be tight with the Pro Charger.

nah! Plenty of room. Pics of the custom radiator support will be at a later date.

[96z28ss]

Tim like the cold....:_paranoid

He can wear a jacket.

[DOOM]

He can wear a jacket.

Well it was wishful thinking, I would have to have him over here for about a month with all the problems I'm having..:faint:

[GregWeld]

Love it Bob!

I think you should market the mufflers -- or at least -- sell that design idea because it's killer!

See ya Friday?

[96z28ss]

Love it Bob!

I think you should market the mufflers -- or at least -- sell that design idea because it's killer!

See ya Friday?

Us working guys can't just do stuff willy nilly like you.
If your spending the night in town I could meet ya for dinner.

[tones2SS]

Looks awesome. Nice work.:thumbsup:
I love the SW muffler idea.

[rwhite692]

Those front inner fenders look great, Bob. I will need to do something similar (running same WD sub) so I will definitely look to yours for inspiration! Car is looking great -Rob

[mexMan]

It looks hmmm, another way of saying badass... meanbutt?

[DRJDVM's '69]

Exhaust looks awesome

Tell me more about the tubing tim used..... I know he uses food grade ss. Alot of you curved pipes look like one continous piece... Like over you axle.... I assume that tim's awesome welding and finishing rather than one true pipe section with all those curves. There looks like there is a welded in piece right before the x pipe that wasn't metal finished, so I was just wondering

Looks awesome

[96z28ss]

from the muffler, over the axle is 4 or 5 pieces I think.
There is alot to go around with the quadra link.

[awr68]

paint it already! :P

[northwests]

Oregon resident too huh? Looks great. Love the back end, and those front inners, nice job.

[96z28ss]

Here is a small update on the engine compartment.

Here is a fan shroud that I had laser cut, and then Tim bent the ends up and welded to the radiator. They are Spal fans and should pull alot of hot air.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/fans.jpg

I had Tim straighten the radiator support. By straightening it we gained over an inch for the intake on the supercharger.
Also made mounts for the intercooler.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05980.jpg

Since the radiator support was made straight the hood latch is going to get modified. I also made a new front end support and had it laser cut.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05975.jpg

All the intercooler plumbing is now done and it looks real good. Tim is real good at laying stuff out, making sure stuff is symmetrical.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05973.jpg

This is why I have two different size fans. The intake on the supercharger needs to go somewhere.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC05978.jpg

as usual more updates later...

[GregWeld]

:theresa: :theresa: :hail: :hail: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :woot:

[Flash68]

Gitter dun Bob!:woot:

[waynieZ]

It looks good.

[tones2SS]

Very nice.

[rjsjea]

Saw the Camaro on Sunday.....looks better in person. Very cool;)

[96z28ss]

it does look good in person I can't take pictures well enough to show off the amount of work Tim put into this.

[HWY Nova]

it does look good in person I can't take pictures well enough to show off the amount of work Tim put into this.

Have someone else take the photos!


--Eric

[96z28ss]

Have someone else take the photos!


--Eric

What are you doing online? Don't you have some designs you should be working on?

[awr68]

Nice progress guys!! :thumbsup:

[HWY Nova]

What are you doing online? Don't you have some designs you should be working on?

I had a weak moment. I'll go back to work now.


--Eric

[Rybar]

Looks real good Bob :thumbsup:

[Ricochet]

it does look good in person I can't take pictures well enough to show off the amount of work Tim put into this.

See if Kenny can take the pics! I hear he is great with the camera! :D

Looks great, Bob!

[96z28ss]

Here is a small update.
Got the intake for the supercharger and Air filter location finished. Made close out panels for both sides. Air filter will be on the other side of the close out panel.
Made some stainless hard lines for the coolant. It has to go around too many things to do it with a regular hose.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC06082.jpg

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC06083.jpg

[GregWeld]

Looking good Bob!

[waynieZ]

Very Nice. What size is the radiator?

[69x22]

Looking good! What kind of boost and power are you looking to make?

[96z28ss]

Looking good! What kind of boost and power are you looking to make?

10 lbs of boost for now. 650rwhp

[96z28ss]

small update cause I'm bored.
I had these tail lights made for me in April of 2010 just never got around to putting them on the car.
I decided since the exhaust runs out the back of the tail panel its too busy to have a RS reverse light. So I had the combination of the RS tail light with the back up lense.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1010536.JPG

[GregWeld]

Nice!

Not everyone has a drop light for taillights!


Hey -- hurry up and finish that thing. It's got to be done before I draw my first S.S. check! :unibrow:

[Vegas69]

Glad to see you went with the back up lights, I really think that should be a requirement for the Optima Invitational.:D :cheers:

[skatinjay27]

haha ^^^^^^nice!

[96z28ss]

Nice!

Not everyone has a drop light for taillights!


Hey -- hurry up and finish that thing. It's got to be done before I draw my first S.S. check! :unibrow:

Yep drop lights come in handy.
Dang doesn't give me much time, cause that check is coming soon huh!

[96z28ss]

Nice!

Not everyone has a drop light for taillights!


Hey -- hurry up and finish that thing. It's got to be done before I draw my first S.S. check! :unibrow:

Glad to see you went with the back up lights, I really think that should be a requirement for the Optima Invitational.:D :cheers:

yep that's why I had them made

[DOOM]

Nice!

Not everyone has a drop light for taillights!


Hey -- hurry up and finish that thing. It's got to be done before I draw my first S.S. check! :unibrow:

:rofl:

[96z28ss]

Starting to get off my but and design some stuff for the camaro.
Going to design a front chin spoiler. Also going to change the front valance to get more air for the intercooler. Rear spoiler is getting tossed and I'll design something for that also.
So I scanned the front and rear of the car to speed up the development of this stuff. I would like to get this all designed before I have to start on other peoples projects coming soon.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/FRONTCAMARO.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/rear_scan.jpg

[ironworks]

That's bitchin Bob

[settintrendz]

^^^^^ What he said. Killer. Cant wait to see the additions to the front and rear!!

[GregWeld]

Well hurry up then! 'Cause you have lots of work ahead of you! And "we" aren't sitting on our skirts.

Be sure to post up interim "work details" like whatever it is that you do with this scan in the next step... this is kool stuff.

[cjperry81]

small update cause I'm bored.
I had these tail lights made for me in April of 2010 just never got around to putting them on the car.
I decided since the exhaust runs out the back of the tail panel its too busy to have a RS reverse light. So I had the combination of the RS tail light with the back up lense.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1010536.JPG

What type of place did those custom lenses for you? I was also wondering are there places out there that actually make lense shapes for you from scratch.....say if you wanted to make a non traditional shaped tail light? Any ideas?

[96z28ss]

Well in this case, Fesler made them for me, and now offers this option.
If you want something really custom, then they have to be designed and machined. Sky is the limit, just about anything can be done. Price will dictate what you want to do.

[96z28ss]

another small update.
The core support close out panel is done. My inner fenders were done but I had been playing around with the idea of putting some style into them. I decided it needed to be done. It makes everything tie together. Core support and inner fenders match now as well as the side panels.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1010722.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1010724.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1010725.JPG

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1010730.JPG

[Rybar]

That looks pretty cool Bob, nice work

[canrc]

Love the inner fenders!

[jocko124]

Looking good Bob!

[56pickup]

Looks great! :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

Very Nice!

[War]

Nice job Bob. Is that some of Tim's work?

[96z28ss]

Nice job Bob. Is that some of Tim's work?

95% of all metal fab done to the car was done by Tim. The inner fenders were done by a friend of his cause, Tim's Pullmax didn't have enough clearance to get the inner fender all the way around.

[Tom.A]

Love the inner fenders!

X2, That looks sharp

[69x22]

The metal work on this car is awesome!

[awr68]

Looks great! Anything else on the list before body/paint?

[GregWeld]

Did you have Rodger come up to take this shot??:unibrow:




http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1010730.JPG

[GregWeld]

Looks great! Anything else on the list before body/paint?



Yeah good question -- like -- Have you saved up the 50K that's going to cost?

J/K


Looks great Bob!!:cheers:

[96z28ss]

Front spoiler, front valance, rear spoiler, maybe one or two other things then it's ready for paint. I have to stop myself at some point

[coolwelder62]

This is One outstanding build.Awesome to say the least.Iner fender's turned out great.I would luv. to have one of them there Pullmax thing-z.:thumbsup:

[96z28ss]

This is One outstanding build.Awesome to say the least.Iner fender's turned out great.I would luv. to have one of them there Pullmax thing-z.:thumbsup:

It could of been done with a bead roller before it got welded in. However this was an afterthought on my part so instead of doing it over. We had it done on a big machine.

[Ricochet]

Looks killer Bob! As mentiond a few times - The inners look great! I was wondering how your we're able to do it. I wanted to do mine also, but will not fit through opening of my bead roller. Radiator support looks good also! Nice progress!

[GregWeld]

Looks killer Bob! As mentiond a few times - The inners look great! I was wondering how your we're able to do it. I wanted to do mine also, but will not fit through opening of my bead roller. Radiator support looks good also! Nice progress!

For us mere mortals - without giant hammers and the like -- you can always cut the area out - form it - and TIG it back in.... thus working with a far smaller and flatter piece perhaps.

[96z28ss]

For us mere mortals - without giant hammers and the like -- you can always cut the area out - form it - and TIG it back in.... thus working with a far smaller and flatter piece perhaps.

That's exactly how it would be done without big equipment.
I had the entire inner fender reshaped, all welded in and then came up with the idea. I didn't want to start over ( neither did my wallet ), luck would have it Tim worked with a guy that had a real big Pullmax with a real deep head, I'm talking clearance in feet not inches.

The core support close out panel, Tim and I did that with a bead roller. It was a 2 person job. It's hard holding the part and feeding it when trying to do real sharp radii.

[Lenie]

Bob, really good talking with you yesterday and thanks for the help. Car looks killer. Your exhaust system is spectacular, I'm going to half to make a drive down soon and take a looky. Thanks again.

[96z28ss]

Small update.
I've been working on the car in my spare time, which isn't much. I decided to remove the FAST intake and do something a bit more custom. While I was at it. I milled the Chevrolet and bowtie off the valve covers, also removed the ribs down the center of the center bolts. Since I was at it I milled the lettering off the fuel rails and cleaned them up also. Fuel lines for the fuel rails are also done.

Here is a before picture of the valve covers.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC00004.JPG
Here is a before picture of the FAST intake
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/DSC00007.JPG
Here is where I started to get creative. With a factory style intake, it just looks so short in the engine bay. I wanted to take up some of the available real estate. I also tried to tie the intake to the new inner fenders.
My photography skills are lacking. Here is the best I can do to show the outcome.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/P1020043.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/eng3.JPG
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/eng5.JPG

[GregWeld]

Looks great Bob! I like the way you've carried forward the design in the inner wheel well sheet metal into the intake etc.

SOOOOOO much better than that grey plastic look! :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

Great work Tony. I'm digging it, it's almost like an alien or praying mantis.

[214Chevy]

Oooohhh weeee!!:woot: Those valve covers look like they were custom made like that instead of being cast GM valve covers. Nobody will ever be able to tell. That intake is killer too. I like the design on top of it. :bow: :bow:

[96z28ss]

Great work Tony. I'm digging it, it's almost like an alien or praying mantis.

It's screaming for a chance at beating up on a big block at an event.
It's getting closer.

[Vegas69]

You better pick on somebody your own size. :D

[Flash68]

Killer, Jimmy! Nelson calls his intake the Alien but I think yours is closer. :thumbsup:

It's screaming for a chance at beating up on a big block at an event.
It's getting closer.

So whose your ringer to drive it? :D

[96z28ss]

Killer, Jimmy! Nelson calls his intake the Alien but I think yours is closer. :thumbsup:



So whose your ringer to drive it? :D

You guys crack me up! Just cause I go to the events and volunteer doesn't mean I never autocrossed or been on a road course. My last name is Braga not brag.
I'll drive it, if it don't like the results I'll get Michael Schumacher to take it around. LOL

[Flash68]

You guys crack me up! Just cause I go to the events and volunteer doesn't mean I never autocrossed or been on a road course. My last name is Braga not brag.
I'll drive it, if it don't like the results I'll get Michael Schumacher to take it around. LOL

:lol: You know that was actually a shot at the other guys.. :unibrow:

And thanks for volunteering at the events. :cheers:

[Rybar]

Looks really cool Bob, did you sell that Fast intake?

[96z28ss]

Looks really cool Bob, did you sell that Fast intake?

Yes I sold it a while ago with the FAST throttle body. I do still have the FAST fuel rails brand new in the box.

[coolwelder62]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

Beautiful job! At first I thought to myself, Too bad I like those valve cover like that. Boy was I wrong. They look sweet all milled down. I love the intake too. Very Nice.

[tjbruning]

Nice work Bob, turned out great. Ever considered design as a career?

:thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Oooohhh weeee!!:woot: Those valve covers look like they were custom made like that instead of being cast GM valve covers. Nobody will ever be able to tell. That intake is killer too. I like the design on top of it. :bow: :bow:

You said it Marcus. Looks killer.

[GregWeld]

Okay -- Well I've aged a year and taken 12 more vacations.... Surely something has gone on down there that we should know about??


Hey - Rudy's car is at Dan's Custom Upholstery there on like 80th just north of Stark Street.... you should drop by and check it out. Let me know what you think of the new paint and bodywork.

[96z28ss]

Okay -- Well I've aged a year and taken 12 more vacations.... Surely something has gone on down there that we should know about??


Hey - Rudy's car is at Dan's Custom Upholstery there on like 80th just north of Stark Street.... you should drop by and check it out. Let me know what you think of the new paint and bodywork.


Not much on my Camaro been busy working on Ironworks stuff. I have a few things designed for my car that need to be machined, then fit them on the car and then its off to paint.

I try and stop and check it out. I wonder if they are there on the weekend?

P.S. whats the 411 on RTTC this year? We going in style this year?

[GregWeld]

P.S. whats the 411 on RTTC this year? We going in style this year?



I'm not going at all this year... I'm doing Grand National -- then coming home and going back over to Sun Valley. Then a quickie trip in early February to Elkhart for trailer details and back to Sun Valley.... :woot: When I'm "done" with SV -- I've got Pierre's '56 here to do an engine swap. He had a new 496 Brodix head BBC built -- and he needs some wiring done and a few "tweaks"... and worse yet - he wants to help! OMG... but we'll have fun and have a few laughs.

[Lenie]

Okay -- Well I've aged a year and taken 12 more vacations.... Surely something has gone on down there that we should know about??


Hey - Rudy's car is at Dan's Custom Upholstery there on like 80th just north of Stark Street.... you should drop by and check it out. Let me know what you think of the new paint and bodywork.

Dan's upholstery did that silver I believe 67 camaro a few years back w/red interior. Absolutely loved it.
Tim we need some pic updates, even old pics will do:bitchslap: let's go:popcorn2:

[96z28ss]

Dan's upholstery did that silver I believe 67 camaro a few years back w/red interior. Absolutely loved it.
Tim we need some pic updates, even old pics will do:bitchslap: let's go:popcorn2:

There honestly is not much done to the car. Waiting for Tim to finish the 70 chevelle. Then i'll start back up on the car.

[96z28ss]

my first update in a long time.
Worked on a new front valance. I was going to just do a Marquez Design, however Tim suggested I keep the car all metal instead of putting fiberglass on it now at this point.

So we worked on a few ideas and this is the one that stuck.
I played around in CAD first to see what it would look like.
Moved the lights out 6 inches and made 2 openings.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/FRONT_LOWER_VALNCE_OPENING_rev-b.JPG

The layout and the start of moving stuff around.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/valance_start.JPG

Tim metal finishing it up.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/finished.jpg

Mocked up on the car.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/valance_done.jpg

[GregWeld]

That looks really good Bob!

[Lenie]

To funny, I remove the holes and added lights and you widen the lights in order to add the holes....that's what makes them our own. Really like the outcome, Tim does awesome work. Can't wait to see it finished, keeper' rollin' !

[DOOM]

Thats a great idea Bob! I have really been toying with doing the same thing.

[waynieZ]

It looks nice.

[syborg tt]

very nice

[HWY Nova]

I've been following your posts on facebook........ I'm glad to see you posted them here too.

Great progress!

I admire your use of scanning actual car panels, bumpers, etc. in order to see your vision on the computer before you actually fab the parts.


--Eric

[96z28ss]

another small update.

Stripping the coating and primer getting it ready for paint.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo.JPG

Also wanted to make a rear spoiler that I could call my own.
its shorter and leaned back a bit, but plays off the original spoiler style.
Tim has it all tacked in place. it needs to be all welded and then metal finished.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo1.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo2.jpg

[HWY Nova]

I really like your Camaro...... Keep the pics coming!



--Eric

[Flash68]

Love the spoiler Bob!

[fleetus macmullitz]

another small update.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo2.jpg

Future 'Butt of the week' winner IMHO. :unibrow:

[Musclerodz]

Camaro is looking awesome Robert! What color are you going with?

[HWY Nova]

Tim has it all tacked in place.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo1.jpg
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo2.jpg

Tim is the metal-work Master! I forgot he is no longer at SAR (Greg Weld will be happy about that). Tell him I said hello.


--Eric

[96z28ss]

Camaro is looking awesome Robert! What color are you going with?

some sort a shade of silver, one of the 5 million available, its such a hard choice. still undecided.
What Silver did you use on that Camaro your building?

[DOOM]

Lookin good Bob! That gas door sure looks familiar! So you going with that Silver we talked about?

[WSSix]

I like the spoiler. Silver is a great color on these cars too. Good luck deciding on a shade.

[Lenie]

Bob the car's looking killer, I really like the way the spoiler and rear bumper shaved and tucked look. I'm also a fan of silvers, really like Mercedes Iridium silver.

[Sieg]

Nice work Buddy! :thumbsup:


Didn't know you actually had a car

:waveflag:

[96z28ss]

Nice work Buddy! :thumbsup:


Didn't know you actually had a car

:waveflag:

Okay you and Greg need to stop hanging out so much, your starting to sound like him. This message board can only handle one DB.

[96z28ss]

Well I have begun to dismantle the Camaro and get it ready for paint.
I pushed it outside and took some pictures.

Here is the spoiler all welded and finished. I really wanted something that looked like it could of been from the factory. Its shorter than stock and leaned back more than a stock spoiler.
Also made sure that it had an edge. When the spoiler is built off the trunk it makes the trunk look too long and out of place in my opinion.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo_10.png
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo_11.png
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo_12.png

[96z28ss]

I took some shots of the car outside and even decided to take all the protective tape off the wheels.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo_1.png

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo_3.png

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo_6.png

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/camaro/photo_17.png

[tubbed69]

Very Very nice,I like cars in bare metal:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Very Very nice,I like cars in bare metal:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Yep me too. Part of the disease!

Looks great Bob :cheers:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Outstanding. :thumbsup:

[glassman]

Very Very nice,I like cars in bare metal:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thats what i was thinking too. Just clear it, it looks sooo good. :thumbsup: