Pantera EFI

[spchiv]

I read about the Panteria EFI system in a recent Super Chevy and thought it sounded pretty interesting. I went to the web site and it was a little sketchy. Does anyone have any experience with this system? Any idea of cost? Thanks.

[XcYZ]

I don't know anything about it.... do you have a link?

[spchiv]

No, I just did a google search and linked to their website from that. They have a cool 8 stack system and it sounds like it's a sequential setup with individual cylinder tuneability. From the google search, it looks like they have expanded from the snowmobile 2 cycle engine market to hot rodding.

[spchiv]

I spelled it incorrectly in my first note, it's Pantera, like the car.

[DB Z28]

I,m using that on my LS-7. I never played with it my self yet. Wegners clams it easy to learn and its better than whats out their. ??

[spchiv]

Good luck, it sounded pretty good from the article. I'm getting ready to do my 1961 Bel Air and am considering an LS-7. Where did you get yours? Are you happy with it?

[DB Z28]

I got a whole engine package from Wagners motorsports. I bought my LS-7 from them it pulled 711hp* and Pantera EFI came with it .We dyno it with the system and it seemed very good and easy to run and set up.Looking play with the system on the chassis dyno more in the spring.

[parsonsj]

Wegner built my engine too, and we used the Pantera system for all the dyno testing. The thing snapped into place, used all GM sensors (and connectors), and fired the motor immediately. I was so impressed with the system that I tried to contact "Lance" the guy behind the system. For whatever reason I couldn't reach the guy. I ended up with a FAST setup instead.

jp

[spchiv]

I'm checking it out. Thanks.

[tellyv]

give dan @ wegners a call (not this week there in daytona) they use there stuff and sell it too, they'd be the ones to ask. (920)394-3557

[andrewmp6]

I look at a couple sites it don't look bad wish they made it for a ford.

[spchiv]

Thanks, I sent them an E-mail yesterday. I'll call next week if I don't hear from them.

[andrewb70]

I look at a couple sites it don't look bad wish they made it for a ford.

Huh? The ECUs are universal. You just need Ford specific hardware, such as an intake manifold, etc...

Andrew

[Pantera EFI]

Pantera EFI is a thirty-five year old business. The EFI/DIS begining was the GM program to build the DIS for the Buick GN. The use of a 60-2 (58-x) code wheel allowed for a correct spark instant.

Today the current product line features a modern DSP Freescale processor (40 MIPS) at 160 mhz. The "882" provides eight ignition channels/eight injector channels all in one box. No external ignitors, modules, pressure sensors.

Software is easy to use and understand.
The GM LS-(x) engine is my favorite.
Lance

[camcojb]

Pantera EFI is a thirty-five year old business. The EFI/DIS begining was the GM program to build the DIS for the Buick GN. The use of a 60-2 (58-x) code wheel allowed for a correct spark instant.

Today the current product line features a modern DSP Freescale processor (40 MIPS) at 160 mhz. The "882" provides eight ignition channels/eight injector channels all in one box. No external ignitors, modules, pressure sensors.

Software is easy to use and understand.
The GM LS-(x) engine is my favorite.
Lance


in English please............ :D Welcome to the site.

Jody

[tyoneal]

Huh? The ECUs are universal. You just need Ford specific hardware, such as an intake manifold, etc...

Andrew
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Andrew:

Are you a fan of Bettie or a Collector of photo's or signed things?

Ty

[andrewb70]

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Andrew:

Are you a fan of Bettie or a Collector of photo's or signed things?

Ty

Neither. But I am a fan of the pinupish art by Olivia.

Andrew

[parsonsj]

Lance exists!

I loved your stuff when I was picking up my motor from Wegner. Do you have a website where we can read up on the product some more?

jp

[Rick Dorion]

http://panteraefi.com/

:)

[parsonsj]

Thanks Rick.

The website is a bit disappointing, but certainly a start. Anybody know where some schematics and/or user manuals could be found?

jp

[Pantera EFI]

True, the site is run by Tony (PEP). The LS specific site needs to grow faster, I hope, sooon.
The Fords engines, yes, there is coverage. The 302W's, 351W's & C's, the FE, 385, and the 2003+ 4.6 all have "stack" baised systems. We sell to Redline EFI, Very Cool Parts, Shan H. and others.
The newer 36-1 Target used in the Ford engine is supported.

I can send pictures, the latest is a 427W with 602HP, 580 TQ@2600 with COP.

Contact for pictures ([email protected]).

Lance

[spchiv]

Lance, What is a ballpark cost of the system for an LS type motor? Thanks.

[parsonsj]

Any chance we could see a schematic for an LSx motor? And does you setup support the old 24x crank tooth arrangement?

thanks!

[Pantera EFI]

The retail cost is $2600.00 USD for an ECU-882C-1-H-TTL FOB Santa Ana, CA.
The Harness (included) is made to order to your specification, a "race quality" loom.
These are engine specific :

Injector connector style ?
Cam sensor location ?
Stock coils OR my IGN-1 Coils
Other items ?

Also sold are Relay Boxes, Fuel Pumps, Sensors.

We support the 24xe Target

Lance

[Rick Dorion]

Love them! Any possibility of gen1 systems?

[parsonsj]

Lance,

I'm thinking along 2 lines here:

1. My current car (powered by a 427 Wegner LS2) uses a FAST setup, but is slow starting (especially cold), and nothing I do makes much difference. The FAST guys are stumped, and the logs show some difficulty in reading the cam sensor. So for that, I'm wondering if your setup can simply replace the FAST XFI/eDIST/crank decoder CPUs, and I can use my existing harness and fit it to the Pantera. IIRC, my motor started in less than 2s when it was on the dyno at Wegner. It's just that I need to see a schematic to know if that's a possibility.

2. My next project will also be LSx powered (LS3?), and I was just gonna use an OEM ECU given my current difficulties with aftermarket stuff. Since the Pantera worked so well at Wegner, I'm considering that rather than OEM.

I'm looking for more documentation and information. Is email the best way to reach you?

jp

[Pantera EFI]

We finished a LS-3 T/T engine for a racer, Randy, that made 667HP and 440 TQ@2400 RPM.
The engine would run 7500 RPM with steel valves/Hyd cam.
Starting problems are common when other EMS sysems are fitted.
I will PM you with contact info.
We have the GM SBC front cover with the crank sensor at the bottom AND a 24x tone ring (DIS).

Lance

[bucks69]

[QUOTE=Pantera EFI]The retail cost is $2600.00 USD for an ECU-882C-1-H-TTL FOB Santa Ana, CA.
The Harness (included) is made to order to your specification, a "race quality" loom.
These are engine specific :

Is that the price for the complete stack injection?
That is Automotive jewelry right there, especially since it performs.

[Pantera EFI]

This kit is complete with the EMS, Harness, Stacks, Fuel Pump, Filter,
Relay Box, S/S Linkage,Calibration Installed,Tumbled Finish.
A complete package to be installed on a running LS-1 or 2 engine.

The price is 6995.00 Retail.
Wegner may have a "better" price, call Dan.

Lance

[speedshopmike]

lance, you're saying you have stack systems for windsor-based fords?
if so, send me some detailed info; i have a customer looking to do this.
thanks,
mike
rockville speed & custom

[Pantera EFI]

Yes, we make a system, tested at Westech 600HP and 480 TQ@2400.
I can send a picture ?

Lance

[tjmark]

My 2 cents.
First I have a 2001 ls1. In an off-road buggy.
I picked up a panteria efi 882-c last year and am just now getting around to using it. I called lance 2 weeks ago for some direction on just getting it plugged in. He has been real helpful. I have to admit it is like a College professor talking to a first grader, but he keep helping me understand. I need to really study all the options this ECM offers so I use it to it's full potential.
I also was weary when I looked up web information on the unit. But after meeting him in person in the off-road show last year I liked the system. My harness is top notch. I screwed up and did not get the CPS in my harness but he was very willing to help me fix it myself. I would recommend his system.
Thanks again Lance.

You were sick last time i talked to you but i have a few more questions i need to call and ask.

[TT LS2]

Two more cents!
I spoke with Lance a few days ago now. I didn't know know much about a fuel injected system, but Mr. Lance was kind enough to teach me about it in our 45 min conversation, after hours. I got the type of support and help with general questions about the pantera system as well as "beginner" general help. He has given me so much advice and help and I haven't even purchased a system from him yet. After doing research on the numerous other ECUs out there, calling different manufacturers for advice and info regarding their products, I can honestly say that Lance @ Pantera EFI has been by FAR the most helpful and patient with me, in this matter. I am going with the Pantera EFI set-up!!!