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juveteach
02-01-2008, 07:52 AM
Is the Hot Rod Flatz system inexpensive?
Is there a better Flat black paint system other than just primer for the hot rod look? That is the direction I want to go. I heard that there is a base/clear system that works well? Seems like I saw it on TRUCKS on spike tv, they painted a fat fendered chevy with it.

I don't know,.. does anyone in here know?
Looking for a flat black that will not chaulk up on me in a couple years. Any info is helpful.

Thanks,
Mike :willy:

7TSS
02-01-2008, 02:06 PM
You could just use a base/clear with a flattening agent in the clear.

Bulldog68
02-01-2008, 02:36 PM
You might want to ask Andy, who built Rob Dyrdek's flat black 69 "Rogue Status" camaro. Search for his thread on the project update to see if that's the look you're going for.

juveteach
02-01-2008, 05:00 PM
Yep that is the way I want to go. I read it was a single stage with a flatten agent in it. Shoot and go. I will go that way or a 2k tintable primer.But HECK YEAH with that look. Thinking about no door handles to.
Thanks for the thread Bulldog. Read all 17 pages.


Mike :willy:

tellyv
02-01-2008, 07:24 PM
sem makes a hot rod black in a kit works pretty good and its cheap, I spray diamont made by basf and they have a formula to make clear flat, or semi gloss, thats what I use it's easy to clean and very durable, you mix your clear normal and then add flop control agent, it works better than flattening agent , if your going for cheap use the sem stuff I used it on a 46 ford coupe and it looked very good

Yard Dawg
02-02-2008, 12:16 PM
Sort of on topic but I was curious as to the upkeep on a flat/semi flat paint job.
I was considering this for my daily driver but wanted to know if there is any drawbacks/hassles inherent in 'living' with this type of finish. ie water spots, oily fingerprints ;)

Is it also difficult to touch up rock chips?

ALLBOTTLEMONTE
08-05-2013, 08:40 AM
I Used Rm Clear Dc5775 Works Really Good

DEIGuy38
08-11-2013, 09:21 PM
Try Cumberland Products. www.cumberlandproductsinc.com We talked to them for a while at SEMA the last 2 years. I told my buddy about the paint so he bought it to do a chevy truck. He took it to another friends body shop who doesn't like doing flats and he sprayed it. He said it was great to shoot and turned out really nice. I would give them a call, great product.

kttrucks
08-14-2013, 07:56 AM
There are several good systems out there, both base/clear and single stage. The latest one that I used is Eastwoods "Dead rat flat black" which is just that.... very low gloss, very black. I shot the rolling thunder Ranger project with it on the show. I've also used Eastwoods Rat rod flat clear on the JADED Mustang underhood and for accents/chassis paint,and was very happy with the clear and how its easy to spray evenly.. SUMMIT's single stage is good, but I fond the PPG 2060 Flexed N flat a little unpredictable.... had a hard time with "striping" in the clear, but for small parts is good. ( Finch has used it with much sucess on his silver Camaro though... may be pilot-error on my part. :)

I'd stay with a single stage for simplicity, and gently nudge toward eastwood, just for the sake of value combined with a great product... = not expensive.

JMHO

KT.

tubbed69
08-14-2013, 07:03 PM
guys there is a new paint out,the brand is Excel and its a single stage urathane that has a perfect finish to it,you can get it in satin or flat,I used satin on all of my car and really am satisfied with it,here is a pic of underside and subframehttp://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa339/tubbed69/P1000753_zpsa2c85d15.jpg (http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/tubbed69/media/P1000753_zpsa2c85d15.jpg.html)http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa339/tubbed69/P1000765_zps3d78da80.jpg (http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/tubbed69/media/P1000765_zps3d78da80.jpg.html)

rallystyle
09-01-2013, 02:10 PM
is there any that you can get in quarts and in rattle cans? I don't have excess to a paint booth and if any touch up needs to be done is why I am asking. and does any one know what the roadster shop uses on there bays?

GregWeld
09-01-2013, 04:32 PM
is there any that you can get in quarts and in rattle cans? I don't have excess to a paint booth and if any touch up needs to be done is why I am asking. and does any one know what the roadster shop uses on there bays?



Most any AUTOMOTIVE paint shop has the ability to put any paint you're using into a rattle can. For obvious reasons you can't do that with catalyzed paints... but you can shoot most catalyzed paints without the catalyst and it will dry. Say you wanted to paint your engine block -- which isn't going to show dust/dirt etc... then it works fine. I wouldn't do that for inner fender wells etc and frankly there wouldn't be any point to doing it that way. They'd look awful and the paint would be "soft".