Should I say yes to the Blow Job? Not to be confused with "Should I hit it or quit it

[novanutcase]

Rodger and a friend were screwing around in the shop today and his friend had suggested to him that we should put a blower on the LS7. Rodger felt that it wouldn't fit but for $hit$ and giggles he had a Procharger laying around and decided to see what it would look like or if it would even fit.

It fit! DAMMIT! LOL!

What do you think?

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics1-18-2008013.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics1-18-2008014.jpg

What to do, what to do!!!:rolleyes::D

Adding a blower will add an additional 150 hp which would bring total HP to 650hp. For street that is a hell of a lot of HP to be responsible for! The car will be all over the place with that kind of torque and HP but DAMN it sure looks snug as a bug in a rug where it's at. It seems to have just made itself at home there! LOL!

John

[ZZ3ElCamino]

I say do it....Wait, are we talking about the "hit it or quit it" conversation :D

That Nova is turning out to be one bad a$$ ride!

Rodger and a friend were screwing around in the shop today and his friend had suggested to him that we should put a blower on the LS7. Rodger felt that it wouldn't fit but for $hit$ and giggles he had a Procharger laying around and decided to see what it would look like or if it would even fit.

It fit! DAMMIT! LOL!

What do you think?

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics1-18-2008013.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics1-18-2008014.jpg

What to do, what to do!!!:rolleyes::D

Adding a blower will add an additional 150 hp which would bring total HP to 650hp. For street that is a hell of a lot of HP to be responsible for! The car will be all over the place with that kind of torque and HP but DAMN it sure looks snug as a bug in a rug where it's at. It seems to have just made itself at home there! LOL!

John

[69Camaro]

If it fits, and you can afford it, why would you not?????

[72 RS/SS]

It does kinda look like it belongs there. You know if you take it off it's gonna look like something is missing - so go for it.

[J2SpeedandCustom]

Blower whine only goes with one color.....Orange! You know Troy is putting one on the nova they are building so you better put one on to compete...:lol:

[Stuart Adams]

You should change pistons if you are going to use it.

[novanutcase]

Here's my dilemma!

Apart from the fact that this isn't in the budget(Budget? What's that?!?) for the blower to effectively be used I would, as Stuart says, need to change out the pistons since they are cast and not forged which would mean more dough thrown at cracking the motor open which, of course knowing me, would ALSO mean that since we're in there we might as well cam it, new rocker arms, etc.

CHA-CHINGGGGGGGG!!!!:wow:

Also, the block itself is an issue as the cylinder walls are not all that conducive for a blown application.

And lastly, the car itself is being built as a hybrid street/road racer and the blower wouldn't really help in that application either so why do it?

BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO DAMN COOL IN THERE!:yes: :D

(I'm a VERRRRYY sick person!):willy: :rofl:

John

[ccracin]

Here's my dilemma!

Apart from the fact that this isn't in the budget(Budget? What's that?!?) for the blower to effectively be used I would, as Stuart says, need to change out the pistons since they are cast and not forged which would mean more dough thrown at cracking the motor open which, of course knowing me, would ALSO mean that since we're in there we might as well cam it, new rocker arms, etc.

CHA-CHINGGGGGGGG!!!!:wow:

Also, the block itself is an issue as the cylinder walls are not all that conducive for a blown application.

And lastly, the car itself is being built as a hybrid street/road racer and the blower wouldn't really help in that application either so why do it?

BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO DAMN COOL IN THERE!:yes: :D

(I'm a VERRRRYY sick person!):willy: :rofl:

John

If you are the sick person you say, I remember seeing a post about So Cal heat and icecicles. Put the blower in and hook it to the vintage air unit insted of the LS7. Wait, does the vintage air control panel have a setting on the fan control for "Hurricane"? What ever you choose will be hot. Keep that porn coming!

[novanutcase]

If you are the sick person you say, I remember seeing a post about So Cal heat and icecicles. Put the blower in and hook it to the vintage air unit insted of the LS7. Wait, does the vintage air control panel have a setting on the fan control for "Hurricane"? What ever you choose will be hot. Keep that porn coming!

LOL! That's funny!

Apparently, Procharger already has a kit that bolts on with no internal modifications needed.

http://www.procharger.com/C6_LS7.shtml

A lot of the Road Racers that I talk to have told me that they wouldn't do the S/C and that it will not help in road racing. I assume it is because of the high accel/decel that road racing requires. Is this why? As I said in the previous post, the car is being set up primarily as a hybrid street/road race car. I'm sure the blower would be great for drag racing but that isn't where it will be living most of the time.

John

[awr68]

I wouldn't do it. I have a ProCharger myself and am a fan of them...but with all the fab work on your car I think it should either stay 'clean' as Chris said, or go all the way and go TT!!

In my mind your car kicks ass and the LS7 will hold it's own!!

[4mm]

Apart from the fact that this isn't in the budget(Budget? What's that?!?) for the blower to effectively be used I would, as Stuart says, need to change out the pistons since they are cast and not forged which would mean more dough thrown at cracking the motor open which, of course knowing me, would ALSO mean that since we're in there we might as well cam it, new rocker arms, etc.


Also, the block itself is an issue as the cylinder walls are not all that conducive for a blown application.

And lastly, the car itself is being built as a hybrid street/road racer and the blower wouldn't really help in that application either so why do it?

BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO DAMN COOL IN THERE!:yes: :D

(I'm a VERRRRYY sick person!):willy: :rofl:

John
The LS7 block can hold FI very well, just not into insane boost just as the other LSx blocks. The issue is in the cast piston and wrist pins. You would get into lifting the heads and breaking the o-ring seals before risking the block IMO.

Having said that, here is your solution, and relatively cheap to boot. :unibrow:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1907582

[TravisB]

I say no..... your already this far I would stick to the original plan. Rodger and the boys are going ot have to get moving if that car is going to be at Columbus.....:thumbsup:

on a second thought...you push that torque tube to hard and find a weak spot LOL....

[ironworks]

Weak spot? How do you figure? The carbon fiber driveshaft is before the torque multiplication of the transmission.

[mazspeed]

I opened this thread and thought it was that redhead you were thinking about doing a while back, not a damn car. :lol:

[novanutcase]

I opened this thread and thought it was that redhead you were thinking about doing a while back, not a damn car. :lol:

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Did you think it would take me this long to get head?

John

[mazspeed]

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Did you think it would take me this long to get head?

John

I thought you might have moved real slow with the porn star. You know how shy they are. :D

[novanutcase]

I thought you might have moved real slow with the porn star. You know how shy they are. :D

I have a story I could tell you of a certain shoot that was shot in a loft that I lived in but I'm sure the moderators are lurking around this thread! LOL!

John

[Steve Chryssos]

It's attractive and holds the promise of boundless pleasure. But as you spend more time with it, you will wonder where all of your money went and you might grow tired of listening to it whine......

I'd say the two decisions are exactly the same. Temptation vs. Reality.

[novanutcase]

It's attractive and holds the promise of boundless pleasure. But as you spend more time with it, you will wonder where all of your money went and you might grow tired of listening to it whine......

I'd say the two decisions are exactly the same. Temptation vs. Reality.

True!!!!

John

[Tiger]

It's attractive and holds the promise of boundless pleasure. But as you spend more time with it, you will wonder where all of your money went and you might grow tired of listening to it whine......

I'd say the two decisions are exactly the same. Temptation vs. Reality.

Are we talking cars or girls here????? :lol:

[TravisB]

Weak spot? How do you figure? The carbon fiber driveshaft is before the torque multiplication of the transmission.

I have yet to see a tourqe tube handle a bunch of power.....repeatidly anyway.

[kennyd]

I have yet to see a tourqe arm handle a bunch of power.....repeatidly anyway.


rogers is talking about a torque tube , not arm

[Steve Chryssos]

Are we talking cars or girls here????? :lol:

Neither. Cars are okay. Girls are okay. But pornstars and blowers both require forethought. We're talkin' about diving in face first without thinking things thru. There is nothing wrong with superchargers, but they generally require some re-configuring of the entire drivetrain. ...And there is almost always some re-engineering after completion. Mazspeed proved that. He's nowhere near the first, and he certainly won't be the last. Some guy with a roots type blower was the first.

[TravisB]

rogers is talking about a torque tube , not arm


that is what I meant also just not what I typed......

[ironworks]

So how many broken torque tubes have you seen? Especially with carbon fiber shafts?

[TravisB]

So how many broken torque tubes have you seen? Especially with carbon fiber shafts?

Well actually seen in person....not many. I know Bob Johnsons broke at least once that i know of, im thinking maybe even twice. There is a local guy in town that has a Z06 (02' ish) with a procharger and he has had problems keeping his together. They are really cool and i hope yours works well I just havent heard many good things about them when it comes to making lots of power.

[wiedemab]

I'm not certain, but I think what Bob broke in his Cuda at RTH was the input shaft to the trans-axle. Travis - you may be speaking of a different instance. I think he had a few different issue initially that needed sorted out. I seem to remember that the failure was mainly caused by some fairly severe wheel-hop. I can attest to the fact that it did have some wheel-hop problems. The track wasn't ideal either. I believe they remedied this after the event, but I'm not sure what all was done (shock valving, bushings etc.????)

Anyway, I have absolutely no experience whatsoever with torque tubes, so take my comments as you may.

Later

[ironworks]

Well Bob did not have a torque tube in his. They converted it to a drive shaft in the car. Which allows you to mount the transaxle at a different height, then the engine. Bob also had wheel hop problems, which is not good at all on heat treated gears or regular gears, it kind works like a grade 8 bolt, it shears before it bends.

There is a local guy here that has a Stock drivetrain corvette that is almost in the 8's, Stock trans, stock diff, stock torque tube, He is waiting for something to break and has been waiting for about 1.5 years and it keeps holding up.

Try calling your chevy dealer and see how hard the parts in your torque tube are to get. I called and the rubber joints in the torque tube were only in Michigan, the local dealer here has never had broken torque tube, except in an accident where they totaled the car.

I have talked to about a dozen guys who have put major power thru a Corvette and they all say that the diff is the weak link. Neil Lea in Alabama did the C5 drivetrain thing like 5 years ago with a big block and he beat the crap out of that thing. The new ZR1 corvette will be running a torque tube with a 100,000 mile warranty.

Thanks for the Love though.......

[TravisB]

Try calling your chevy dealer and see how hard the parts in your torque tube are to get. I called and the rubber joints in the torque tube were only in Michigan, the local dealer here has never had broken torque tube, except in an accident where they totaled the car.

I have talked to about a dozen guys who have put major power thru a Corvette and they all say that the diff is the weak link. Neil Lea in Alabama did the C5 drivetrain thing like 5 years ago with a big block and he beat the crap out of that thing. The new ZR1 corvette will be running a torque tube with a 100,000 mile warranty.

Thanks for the Love though.......

Like I said I hope yours works...it appears you have done some research and thats great. 650 Hp or 500hp which ever John decides on is not a ton of power anyway. Good luck hope to see at least one of your projects with this set up done this year so we have first hand knowledge.......

[Payton King]

From a practical side, slapping a cam in the LS7 the car is going to fly with no hastle or extra weight. From an in your face look, of course the blower would be very cool, but the compartment may get a little busy(not that that is a bad thing, just tight). I like the Maggie or the Kenne Bell blower so as to not have so much stuff going on and still have the impact.

You could really step out and put the new Kinsler IR intake on that bitch..

Regardless of what you do you car if one of my favorites... and feel free to PM me your Porn star loft shoot story. LOL

seriously

[syborg tt]

WelL it'S prettY harD foR mE tO hidE my feelings about being blown. I liked it so much I did it twice.

However what I have learned from my project is that my next project will have a simple clean engine bay.

Right now you have a game plan and your goal is Columbus and I personally would change plans at this point.

So you need to asks your self some Questions.

1. Will it make the car Faster ?

2. Will the engine bay look that much better ?

3. Do you have the time built into the build schedule ?

4. Is change really a good thing ?

5. Okay i'll stop babaling

Either way this car is going to be insane and I can't wait to see it at Tracy's.

[novanutcase]

WelL it'S prettY harD foR mE tO hidE my feelings about being blown. I liked it so much I did it twice.

However what I have learned from my project is that my next project will have a simple clean engine bay.

Right now you have a game plan and your goal is Columbus and I personally would change plans at this point.

So you need to asks your self some Questions.

1. Will it make the car Faster ?

2. Will the engine bay look that much better ?

3. Do you have the time built into the build schedule ?

4. Is change really a good thing ?

5. Okay i'll stop babaling

Either way this car is going to be insane and I can't wait to see it at Tracy's.

1. Yup
2. Yup
3. Yup
4. Yup
5. Thanks! LOL! J/K

John

[syborg tt]

5. Thanks! LOL! J/K
John

:rofl: