I would wand one,how about you??

[holschen]

An electric hybrid
0-60 in 5,8sek topspeed somewere north of 125mph
50miles on one charge then a 4cylinder petrolenigine starts to recharge
its lithium-ion batteries,plug-in in your home and recharge it
Ehhh pricetag of 80.000$


i would want one:willy:

[1Michel]

Buick style front grille (maybe that's why it's a 4 doors.)
Looks like a nice luxo sports car aimed at the baby boomers

Nice. not sure I would want one but still nice.

But it's got to be a weird feeling, cruising down the boul and all you hear is the "put put put" of the little engine.

[holschen]

Buick style front grille (maybe that's why it's a 4 doors.)
Looks like a nice luxo sports car aimed at the baby boomers

Nice. not sure I would want one but still nice.

But it's got to be a weird feeling, cruising down the boul and all you hear is the "put put put" of the little engine.


yeaa but if the batteries are charged you will hear nothing :lol: :unibrow:
Al Gore will be the first owner

[ZVT]

HMMMMM that pic looks like a photochop of an alfa.

http://s2.desktopmachine.com/pics/Alfa_8C_118_1024x768.jpg

[holschen]

HMMMMM that pic looks like a photochop of an alfa.

http://s2.desktopmachine.com/pics/Alfa_8C_118_1024x768.jpg


hehe a real bad one in that case the alfa looks much sexier:yes:
but no it isn´t it will go in production this year..? i think
it was in the detroit show

[Diognes56]

Not really my thing. Aside from the nose (specifically the grill) it doesn't look bad, but IMO it doesn't look great either. Not what I expected from the designer of the DB9.

David

P.S. I have to agree the 8C looks much better than the Karma :yes: .

[holschen]

Not really my thing. Aside from the nose (specifically the grill) it doesn't look bad, but IMO it doesn't look great either. Not what I expected from the designer of the DB9.

David

P.S. I have to agree the 8C looks much better than the Karma :yes: .

yes but the DB9 has a wide nose to,so it´s his doing,but on the DB9 it looks better
But on the other side the photo of the karma is a bad one

[tyoneal]

To All:

I was just reading this thread and thought.

I'm not sure anyone who would own one of these Cars, would understand us, or appreciate the service we do for the good of Human kind and the Planet.

There is no telling how large the Carbon footprint is for the manufacture of everyone of these cars. Sure, they are electric, but the Earth destroying Fossil Fuels are necessary to produce the bulk of the electricity these so called, "Earth Friendly", cars use.

The plastics that most of these cars are made from in great amounts are Petroleum Derived Earth Destroying Products.

We need to stop this outrage and deception.

Little do these Environmentalist know or appreciate that:

Most of us CHOOSE NOT to buy new cars.

WE ALL are compulsive Recyclers!:unibrow:

Were doing our part keeping the landfills from being over flowing, plus we help the newer generations appreciate the simpler things in life.

We keep old rusting cars out of peoples front yards, thus helping keep peoples property values up. This in turn cleans up the visual pollution many of the under privileged children of the world have to put up with.

In many cases We take these old, "Out of Date Relics", and retrofit them with new technology, thus increasing their original performance, and in many cases increasing their Fuel Efficiency.

We all perform a vital function working in Harmony with our Environment and the needs of Mother Earth.

Al Gore should be proud to donate his Nobel Prize to all of us and our tireless dedication to this cause.

Too Bad his Nobel Prize wasn't for doing something really important, by choosing the lifestyle and priorities we gladly embrace, and by leading through example, instead of living a hypocritical life of self indulgence.

We should modestly nominate ourselves. next year.

Damn I feel good. I know I make a difference.:unibrow:

Who's with me?

Ty O'Neal

Maybe We Will eventually Qualify for the, "Nobel Disturbing the Peace Prize".:D

[BigVin]

I'm with you well said.
Vin

[holschen]

Seems to me u speak for your country Ty O'Neal,but i hope not
And water nuclear solar and wind is hardly what i call fossil fuel,but we have hardly gone to the same school so I might be wrong on that point to

I love petrolfueled cars to ,the sound of an 8,but it´s not good for the nature
and therefore I would want one of these cars

But this thread was not started in an enviromental standpoint it was becase I thought the car was cool

sorry for any missunderstandings

[CraigMorrison]

The Fikser is one good looking rig- well spoted with the Aston. The owner of Fikser used to be the chief desgner for Aston.

The Alfa 8C is one awesome car, but at $200k and only 100 coming to the US I don't think you will see one on every street corner.

[tyoneal]

Seems to me u speak for your country Ty O'Neal,but i hope not
And water nuclear solar and wind is hardly what i call fossil fuel,but we have hardly gone to the same school so I might be wrong on that point to

I love petrolfueled cars to ,the sound of an 8,but it´s not good for the nature
and therefore I would want one of these cars

But this thread was not started in an enviromental standpoint it was becase I thought the car was cool

sorry for any missunderstandings
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Dear Holschen:

Thanks for the dialog. Please don't take any offense, some may agree, some may not, part of the reason I wrote it was not to say Electric Cars Suck! I promise you. I have an electric car. (It's called a Golf Cart and I use it at the farm. Works like a champ)

What I was trying to point out was that much of the, "Data/Science/Etc.", about us needing to save the planet, is a political sales job aimed at an ever larger Government having more power over everyones lives through the use of Junk Science and emotional, "Sound Bytes". Please also take note of all the species having known to exist that are now extinct. There are many more extinct organisms that we know of than all the current known animals of the world, and 99.999% of these were extinct prior to the arrival of Homo Sapiens. We (Humans) are a very recent organisms compared to Geologic History.

Without question Nuclear Energy is a very clean abundant source of safe power. We in the United States are Idiots for not using it. (This last comment is only pointed at the people who, "If the shoe fits.....") There are many here that understand that many countries in Europe have been using it for decades. With the new technology we have available to us now Nuclear Energy is a Bargain.

That said, while it can help generate electricity, if We refuse to use it, it's the equivalent of it not even existing. If We Truly had an Energy Crises or a Planet Crisis it would be in use here extensively.

We had a "Energy Crises", back in the 70's and it was nothing more than a big hot steaming pile of political excrement. This one we supposedly have now, along with the, "Global Threat", is the same darn thing with a twist. Without Big Government the world is going to come to an end as we no it within 10-100 years depending on which nut you listen to.

I study History as a hobby and have done so for about 25 years, and this same garbage has been going around for hundreds of years. One time it's the coming Ice Age the next time it's the sun burning up the planet. Honestly, Scouts Honor, this is a historical fact. Nature, including the Sun is going to do what it is going to do no matter what we do as a species.

The Satire I put into that post was my way of using the same BS that has been fed to us on a daily basis now for over 10 years. Prior to that, "We" were worried of the coming Ice Age. A good study of Geology and Earths Historic Geology, destroys any attempt for someone to successfully defend Global Warming. Please make note that Al Gore NEVER debates anyone defending his story. He only speaks with people he has convinced that this whole thing (GW) exist.

I will bet anyone $1000 that we will see in our life time the folly in all of this.(GW) Our pseudo friends in the far east will do that for me. We don't and never will have the power to keep China from developing into an industrial giant, and as of last year they are officially the worlds #1 Global "Green House Gas" polluter.

All this aside, cars don't run on wind power, and even if electricity was free we don't have the technology to create vehicles that can satisfy the "Real" needs of modern civilization. Trucks hauling Freight, Trucks pulling trailers, Airplane hauling people, the list goes on and on.

The dirty secret in the US anyway is that, Yes we don't have enough energy to supply our own needs, this however is a TOTALLY voluntary condition on our part.

We, the USA have literally hundreds of years of oil reserves here in the lower 48 states, in territorial waters and Alaska. My family has over 120 years in the petroleum Energy Business, and our Natural resources are absolutely HUGE. There are billions of barrels of oil sitting in the ground in and around our boundaries and trillions of cubic feet of natural gas. These fields of oil and gas are here and companies know where it is.

Our problem is purely political in nature. It is almost impossible to develop these fields, because of the Special Interest groups we have here who focus on so called Environmental issues.

"The people who can control the energy resources, will control everything and everyone else". That is why it is an integral part of every Political Parties Policies world wide.

In the USA we have not built one additional refinery since the mid 1970's. Yes 30 years, We have built NO ADDITIONAL refining capabilities. Our population has increased and our needs have increased, but our production capabilities have NOT increased, hence our lack of domestically created energy.

The burning of fossil fuel or any fuel is a Natural part of nature. Volcano's, lightning strikes, forest fires and so on are all natural occurrences. While undesirable, from our perspective it is a part of life and has been since the beginning of the Earth as We know it now.

If you are skeptical of any of these facts, check them out yourself. Just do so honestly and don't base your research on websites of politically motivated organizations.

I promise my intension is not to come off as harsh or unfriendly, it is just I want to be perfectly clear about what I am trying to say so I have stripped the BS off of the facts.

No one with kids would ever want to ruin the lives of our loved ones. I have 4 kids and six Grand kids. The last thing I would ever want to do is hurt them or ruin their future.

Wind power could help to a certain amount but even the people who insist that they are concerned about the planet, don't want those, "Unsightly",things in their backyard.

I do apologize for interjecting a tangent into this thread. I do like the design of these cars a lot. Except I picture them with a twin Turbo LS7 in them instead of 4 "D" cell batteries. <---------- Yes, this is sarcastic but only for a joke, nothing more.

I hope this has helped to illustrate from which direction I come from. If you are interested in some geologic facts, I'll be happy to point you in the right direction.

Please have a great day, please continue posting anything you feel would make this site any better or interesting, and by all means please don't take anything I say personally or as an attack focused on you. I assure you that was not my intension.

Please feel free to rebut anything and everything if you feel a need. In the meantime.

Take care,

Best Regards,

Ty O'Neal

[holschen]

well said tought we disagree in some points ,I think we would agree in others
one thing to think about when we disquss this,what happens if u take all the balanced weight of one side of a wheel and put on the other side
lets take all the balanced weight in afrika for instense and put in europe
what would happen you are a smart guy ,go figure
so u see i am not all against u either
we all have our right to make our oppinion

and I like a man who can make an good argument
and the same to you have a great weekend Ty O´neal
Best Regards
Holschen

[tyoneal]

well said tought we disagree in some points ,I think we would agree in others
one thing to think about when we disquss this,what happens if u take all the balanced weight of one side of a wheel and put on the other side
lets take all the balanced weight in afrika for instense and put in europe
what would happen you are a smart guy ,go figure
so u see i am not all against u either
we all have our right to make our oppinion

and I like a man who can make an good argument
and the same to you have a great weekend Ty O´neal
Best Regards
Holschen
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Holschen:

Thanks for the reply.

I don't quite understand your post. Could you please elaborate further? I'm guessing that English is a second or third Language for you, so please be patient with me. I assure you wherever you are from you English is better than any other Language I speak.:(

Please try to write this again in a very straight forward way so even I can understand it.

I look forward to your next post.

Ty O'Neal

BTW: Where are you from? (Northern Europe?)