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Forty
07-22-2007, 12:24 PM
Hello!
First off, I'm really new to this scene so please go easy on me :) I'm trying to find out and learn about all this as much as possible.
I am a fan of Muscle cars since I am a little kid and my dream is to build someday a nice B-Body Mopar packed with modern technology. I do have a couple questions:
1) What is the difference between a 'pro-touring' and a 'g-machine' ?
2) Which muscle car is the best one to start with?
3) I know that you need to invest a lot of money into the car. Did you guys ever regret your decision to spent that much money on a car?
Thanks!
PS: Sorry for my bad English :_paranoid
camcojb
07-22-2007, 12:44 PM
Hello!
First off, I'm really new to this scene so please go easy on me :) I'm trying to find out and learn about all this as much as possible.
I am a fan of Muscle cars since I am a little kid and my dream is to build someday a nice B-Body Mopar packed with modern technology. I do have a couple questions:
1) What is the difference between a 'pro-touring' and a 'g-machine' ?
2) Which muscle car is the best one to start with?
3) I know that you need to invest a lot of money into the car. Did you guys ever regret your decision to spent that much money on a car?
Thanks!
PS: Sorry for my bad English :_paranoid
first off, welcome to the site. No difference between pro-touring and G-machine in my mind. As far as the best muscle car to start with, that's up to you. In the Mopars the E bodies have the largest following so restoration parts are much more plentiful than say a Dart or Demon. But they're all cool, Mopars are hot, so do what you like.
If you're building the car to make money I'd advise against it as it rarely happens. But if you're building it to enjoy then have at it, it's a very cool hobby.
Jody
Forty
07-22-2007, 12:52 PM
first off, welcome to the site. No difference between pro-touring and G-machine in my mind. As far as the best muscle car to start with, that's up to you. In the Mopars the E bodies have the largest following so restoration parts are much more plentiful than say a Dart or Demon. But they're all cool, Mopars are hot, so do what you like.
If you're building the car to make money I'd advise against it as it rarely happens. But if you're building it to enjoy then have at it, it's a very cool hobby.
Jody
Thank you for welcoming me :thumbsup:
I don't want to build a car which I want to sell again - but I thought before going big with my actual plan, I want to go easy and start from the bottom to gain more knowledge and experience. Since Mopars are so expensive I thought I would start with a 'cheap' car.
I am a german citizen and I really want to make sure I know what I'm doing before spending a lot of money on parts and shipping, because everythings a little more expensive in good old Germany.
Welcome to the site and the hobby. This is a great place for help and info.
1) Pro-touring and g-machines are one in the same but don't get too caught up on names and classifications. It simply means an old car made to perform better and in particular to turn and stop better since that was never really a strong suit of older American cars.
2) The best one to start with is your favorite because it needs to make you happy and keep you interested and motivated during the process of building it and driving it so know what you want and what you want to spend way in advance. You should research available aftermarket items for a car especially if you have a budget and performance requirements. That being said, Mopars aren't really the best platform to start with from an aftermarket support standpoint. But if there's no budget, then track down a B-Body and fire up the credit card!
If there is a budget, you should consider 1970s era GM stuff as it has a lot of support from the aftermarket, relatively more modern, and cheap buy-in for the initial project car.
3) If it doesn't break you financially and it makes you happy, then you should have no regrets. Careful planning will eliminate cost over-runs and not doing things 3 times because you changed your mind will also keep the budget in check. Those are the 2 biggest reasons project budgets go out of control every time.
Good Luck!
deuce_454
07-22-2007, 01:19 PM
i totally agree with the previous.. although id look into a g-body as they are cheap to buy and relatively cheap to maka fast, both in straight lina and corners... and according to hot rod magazine, a g-machine is a car that will pull 1+ G accelerating, braking and laterally... so a prety big goal, and not one most PT-cars reach....
and the best advice, make a plan and STICK to it! so more planning and thinking...
ProdigyCustoms
07-22-2007, 01:33 PM
Well, of coarse a first gen Camaro is the easiest to build as you can buy ANYTHING your heart desires for 67 - 69 Camaro's. Late model G Bodies like mid 80s Mailibus and Monte Carlos, and others, are quick easy G machines on a budget. We just finished a budget (budget for us) build on one and LOVE IT! Problem is return on investment and desireability unfortunatly is still weak compared to a Early Camaro.
Ummgawa
07-22-2007, 03:19 PM
Hello!
First off, I'm really new to this scene so please go easy on me :) I'm trying to find out and learn about all this as much as possible.
I am a fan of Muscle cars since I am a little kid and my dream is to build someday a nice B-Body Mopar packed with modern technology. I do have a couple questions:
1) What is the difference between a 'pro-touring' and a 'g-machine' ?
2) Which muscle car is the best one to start with?
3) I know that you need to invest a lot of money into the car. Did you guys ever regret your decision to spent that much money on a car?
Thanks!
PS: Sorry for my bad English :_paranoid
1. No
2. Your favorite car
3.Absolutely, until I get the first thumbs up.
ProTouring442
07-22-2007, 06:56 PM
I think they are pretty much the same, but there are definitely many interpretations on the theme. Some cars are nearly race cars, others are more show, while still others are somewhere else. My car is a little more luxury as compared to many PT cars, but as it is all a home build, not as high dollar as some others.
As for which car to start with, the one you like. Saturday evening, I saw a Porshce 928 with a big block Chevy sitting under its hood! There are lots of good American muscle to start with, but it doesn't have to be American to be PT. I think a nice BMW 635 with an LS6 and a 6-speed would be very cool!
As for the money, the way I figure it, I probably would have lost more money if I had purchased a new car that would do what I want my old car to do, so what they hey... I am happy as long as it's paid for!
Shiny Side Up!
Bill
andrewmp6
07-24-2007, 08:25 PM
another name is restomod same meaning but mostly early ford mustangs. honestly any car can pull a full g on a skid pad just takes alot of money.
Welcome. I think you might be our first member from Germany? I know we have quite a few members from Europe. :thumbsup:
As others have said, there's no reason to get caught up in titles of build styles. Build the car with the vision you have. :yes:
Garage Dog 65
07-25-2007, 06:56 AM
Welcome Forty !
I always wanted to do a 924 or a 944 with an LS1 engine - it's already a rear transaxle car (The 944 turbo trans can handle the power of a warmed up LS1 ) and the cars are pretty cheap here right now. With the narrow roads in europe - that car would be a blast !
But your fellow countrymen might think I'm a little on the weird side if they saw my project...
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=5109
Jim
markss28
07-25-2007, 09:20 AM
Stay with the mopar because you like it and it will keep incouraging you to stick with it. PLan on a good motor, you dont have to have 800 hp to bew in the PT thing. The brakes and the suspension is where you want to spend the money and of course the paint and body.
I still have a budget of 20k and Im about 5 grand away. I still need wilwood brakes and a little suspension work.
Price everything. and try not to move away from the plan.
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