Its Time For The Builders To Come Together And Stop This Crap

[fesler]

With the economy so bad and times getting harder and harder for some its time that builders come together and stop the BS with these cars that are being produced.

I see all too often these cars that have a huge price tag on them and a build level of not even ¼ of what someone paid for it. We are fixing more and more half ass builds out there and its getting ridicules. Someone out there somewhere has to care that they are spending good money for crap.

It’s time for everyone out there buying cars to wake up and do some research on what you are going to buy or build. Whether you are going to buy a car or the parts to build the car stop going to the cheapest guy on the market because you don’t always get what you pay for.

The problem is everyone wants a deal and just because the economy is down does not mean the deal is good. Stop going to these guys that sell cars out of their house or that build them on the side out of their house for fun. Not all guys that do this are bad but with more and more cars coming up like the ones pictured here and this one is the worst I have seen yet it’s getting bad and bad fast.

I get calls and calls to go look at a car or pictures with can you look this car over and let me know what you think. Well no I can’t not anymore because there are more scam artist out there than ever before.

I had a very good customer of mine that was looking at buying this car. Look over the pics and let me know what you think. (NO WE HAD ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUILD OR BUY) I got the pics too late to say anything.







Seems like a nice car, price is great around $35,000 no way you could build it for that. Drives nice, underside looks nice, paint is very nice, can’t seem to find any rust or bondo problems, interior is perfect, everything works.

So he bought the car thinking man what a great deal and great buy. He looked at hundreds of pictures of the car and yes this car was a full rebuild. Everything new on it.

Look at the pictures and see just how nice the car really is.

[fesler]

I have more coming just have to get the pictures loaded and will finish the story

[buickfunnycar.com]

oh boy...can't wait.

[SLO_Z28]

$35,000 is alot for a car. Short of being a special car thats a numbers resto I just dont see that car being worth that. Sure it might cost $50,000 to get it built that way, but that doesnt mean its worth more than $15-17,000.

[fletcherscustoms]

I want name names!! but I was in a shop that had two real Shelby GT 500s in for resto. Customer had bought both of the cars for over $50K and they both needed full resotration. I personally witnessed said shop repairing rust in the floors by simply applying fiberglass cloth and coating with resin. We are talking softball size holes. they were in the process of painting one of them with your run of the mill $150 a gallon clear coat. And the shop owner was quick to gloat on how he was getting over $150K each for the resto's. I see more and more of this every day. Where guys pay way to much without knowing what they are getting into. But then you have shops like me, who I think do very well respected work that sit on our hands most of the time cause guys want turn loose of the money cause I don't have a name attached to me. Then you see cars on ebay with high end parts on it that bring twice the amount of the of a better quality car but it just doesn't have the name attached to it also.

[fesler]

Now to the sad part of this story, this car looked really nice and drove really well but the scum bags of today have really figured out how to take advantage of everyone so OPEN your eyes and know what you are buying.

They put bondo over every part of rust but just thin enough that the bodo gauges had a rough time finding it. The complete underside of the car was coated and covered and looks completely factory. The work looked great and the average person would not be able to find this stuff.

There are people out there that will spend a ton of time thinking up ways that they can take advantage of someone buy cutting every corner of a build to make more money. Hours are hours when it comes to building a car and if you are going to be serious about this in any way it’s time to stand up and put these people out of business.





Yes the car broke into two parts all the way accorss




Here are some simple rules for you guys to follow when it comes to looking into buying a car or parts for your car.

• If it sounds too good to be true it is, no one is going to give you something unless they are going to lose it to an EX.

• Check their backgrounds find out what they have done before and if people liked it

• If they just sell on EBay stay away everything we have seen from there is crap and every good deal from there has cost more than expected because of the scams

• Pull up the carpet look under ask for pics of that build area

• Ask for pics before paint if they don’t have them they did not paint it

• Ask for engine out shots if they painted it with the engine in you probably don’t want the car

• Ask for interior build shots see what and how they did it, I will post up some shots of what we see all the time

• Pull up carpet in trunk climb in and check all the rust spots

• Look for all panel replacement work

• Look over suspension make sure it looks like they have at least gone over it all and fixed any issues, if it looks old it’s not a rebuild it’s not a restoration it’s a quick fix to make a buck and a fast one at that.

• Check body alignment make sure the cars fits, check door gaps if they hit its not aligned right and that will cost you labor and paint to fix, check hood/trunk gabs make sure they are correct or it will cost you

• Check windows make sure they all work and no water comes in the car in rain, check seals make sure they are all new not old and rotten

• Check engine fluids all of them, remove the oil cap and check the oil feel it to see how old it is, check water, trans, PS and so on. Smell them to make sure they are not burnt

• But best of all use your judgment when buying a car, if the guy seems weird, strange or won’t answer certain questions clearly don’t buy it move on. You don’t need the headaches of a used car problem

• Now some of you can fix all this yourself so if you are up to it good luck.

I am just so sick of the idiots out there that think they can build a car and do it as good as the larger shops for half the money. There is a reason that guys go to big name shops because they in most cases stand behind what they do and they have a name that over time will let them know the car will still be worth something.

A great question to ask any shop that you are at is what cars go for that you build if people sell them. If they tell you that a certain car that you know cost let’s just say $500,000 and they sell it for $200,000 that is not a good investment. If the cars that sell get close to the build cost then you have a good builder if not then something is not right. Now in their defense not all cars are the right cars to build and some people just have more money they style so that can play a roll.

This same deal runs in the parts business and wheel business you usually get what you pay for so a $300 wheel is nothing like a $900 three piece wheel no ifs ands or butts about it they are nothing alike same with parts for the cars. If you think a guy can make parts for your car at half the price than anyone else on the market they are not good parts unless he is doing it from his garage and making no money. Not many people want to do that either. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and if it seems to good to be true than watch out because you are going to have problems.

Maybe if we (builders and buyers) get together and work together and not against one another we can make this whole experience 1000 times better. Sorry for the long rant but enough is enough and everyone needs to wake up and stop buying crap.

[fesler]

Yes this is what happens when you half ass something

[fletcherscustoms]

Ty's car was a perfect example. WE easily removed over 3 gallons of mud off the car. How hard is it to pull a dent instead of applying filler by the gallon. Rust repair is not covering the backside of the hole with tinfoil then mudding over it. It happens more and more everyday. Folks trying to make a quick buck. I'm guilty of getting screwed!! my challenger I bought looked great, jsut like it had been sitting in a barn for 30 years. But got it to the shop and blasted it and found tons of recent mud work and then had a $8,000 shell that then had to have $4000 of sheetmetal put on it.

[2Bad4Ya]

I hate to see someone go screwed

1. People get the itch and just gotta scratch it, we are an instant gratification society.

2. There is always someone out there looking to seperate you from your $$$$.

3. People are always looking for a DEAL, and if it sounds to good to be true it almost always is!

There is no way I would drop over 10k on a car without seeing it in person, regardless of who I let inspect it for me. I would not put that deciding factor on someone elses shoulders, becuase unless your there with them looking atthe car thats what your doing. If you cant muster getting out to see it yourself do you really care what condition it is in, your just tossing money around. /shrug.

[buickfunnycar.com]

OMFG...someone should be shot for doing that abortion to a car.
I cannot possibly imagine how that car would hold up in an accident...