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So I decided instead of putting an SB-2 engine in my Firebird
I would just buy a racecar. Has a Hendricks SB-2 engine G-force, winters rear.. Apex Racing built it. I bought it from the second owner's wife. Won a Nasa event in 2016 but has been sitting since... we fired it up Saturday so will now replace the Valve springs and start sorting some things.. Lots of extras including a Hutter Sb2 engine that has a broken rocker... might be a lot more inside.. we will see The Adventure begins Panteracer... Bob |
Heck yeah!!
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Car actually was run 2 years ago.. just won the race in 2016
Here is the extra SB-2 engine from Hutter... less Hp only 790 but again it has a broken rocker... intake was removed and lifter valley still good but not sure why it broke.. will pull the head when I get time.. Still searching valve spring options on the existing engine then a few other things to clean up before I can run it Bob |
The aluminum rocker arms have a limited service life. They will fatigue and break on there own eventually. Just a guess, but could be what happened if there is no damage to the piston or valve.
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Well this should be fun. :popcorn2:
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So what's the HP on the good motor? Looks like it's gonna be so much fun to drive, have fun with it Bob. |
Curious, what's the intended use of the car?
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And where does one find an ex nascar race car?
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Hendricks engine is supposed to be 830hp but no documentation
Lets say more than I will need in a 2700 lb car I am going to use the car for track days.. Checked flag racing has a race class that is small and will run it in that group There are also others that run so looking into that Car was run in SCCA and Nasa... not really interested in doing that as there are way too many cars on track to deal with I will modify this with a splitter etc and other things not allowed in its sanctioned classes but don't care I have won Scca Autocrossing championships and other road race events in the past.. been there did that.. I want to go and just have fun... I love an open track.. usually find someone to dance with (driver about the same speed) and go have fun Used to run my Pantera a lot with my Viper buddy This car was on Racing junk.. It really is not an ex nascar it was built for Gt-1/Trans am racing using a custom built Victory Circle chassis They say Robby Gordan ran it at Sears one year but who knows You can buy all different types of bodies for these cars for like $2k to $5k. My buddy is looking at one and will change it to a 1970 style Challenger body as he is a Mopar guy These cars are relativity cheap if you look at all the work that goes into them.... The owners usually cannot get rid of them Weaver Trans am car will smoke this thing but $200k used I paid $30k for car.. extra broken engine, 3 sets of wheels extra brand new brakes, rotors, hats, quick change gear sets and a ton of other things some are used but still good for me Bob |
That's a good way to wake things up!
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The spare Sb2 Engine arrived yesterday. Not sure
what I am doing with it yet.... it may go in the Firebird If I do not sell that car Bob |
Well, this looks fun. I completely missed that you started this post. Keep us updated on what you plan to do. Good luck, Bob
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Thanks Trey
Been spending my time working on my two C10 trucks Taking them to Good guys this weekend to sell... I am afraid I might be selling the Firebird next... will see how much time I have for it...Not sure how these guys have time to play or work on all of them.. I have 5 now so thinning it down Almost sold the Pantera but my wife talked me out of it I have done some cleaning up of things on the Gt-1 and once one of the trucks it out of the way I will get the engine springs replaced in the Sb2 engine... It should be fun tracking Bob |
There's only so much time in a day for everything. Sometimes, you just have to make tough decisions or simply start new chapters in your life.
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So finally figured out a way to get the window
opening larger so I can access the car better Originally I was going to lower the door panel and support tube.. now I am just going to move it out and narrow the sill... took a while staring at it for some time now Bob |
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Working on a flair for the front wheels as the
opening for some reason sits really High... also going to install fender louvers Bob |
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Finally tore into the Hendricks engine
Very cool stuff inside.. rockers are grooved HMS sheetmetal deflector around the push rods Most of the insides shaped to delflect oil towards the valves.. Nothing like the Other Sb2 I got with the deal Bob |
Very cool! :thumbsup:
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So I was going to check the valve lash before I removed
the springs as I have no data on the Hendrix engine There is no valve lash.. never heard that before Finally talked to someone who has a few of these engines for sale and they are built with no valve lash... called soft motors... eliminates a lot of heat, etc... only a few guys build these type of engines I am told..shims on lifters, different size hats on push rods.. a few rockers have .010 markings on them A lot of time to get them right. Yes it is a flat tappet solid lifter I can send it to North Carolina and have it redone but then when and if the springs need changing again I would have to go thru the process again... Thinking I might just change the cam, springs, rockers and pushrods that way I can change the springs myself when needed. My other Sb2 engine has adjustable rockers He also mentioned the rings in this Engine are like $2500 a set A whole lot of cool but not for an average guy Bob |
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Wow, that's an interesting look inside these engines. I know next to nothing about them.
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So found a local guy to help me with the Sb2 engine
Will pull and bring to him so we can see what we have Solid roller new cam adjustable rockers etc. Big issue is getting a cam for the lifters that were moved in the block Might have to combine the two Sb2 engines to get one that works Never a dull moment Bob |
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So I spent some time looking at the two different valve trains
I have for the Sb2 engines.. looks like the Hendricks engine just has the outer two rockers moved over about 1/4" so that the pushrods are vertical like the rest... so no special cam for each engine.. bores in same location ... again will see what the new engine builder says Bob |
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Pulled the Hendricks engine yesterday
Heading to the builder near me to see what we have to work with Bob |
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Thanks for the Cam tip...will see what my engine
builder says and like I always do get another opinion Hoping to build this so it is fairly reliable.. thinking 8600-8800 rpm should be enough but who knows Bob |
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I met with my engine builder and went over
the old Hutter Sb2 engine... cam was bad in several areas.. lncorrect spacing on lobes ate it up... going to use Bullet Cams to make a new one and a 4-7 swap and he also mentioned 321... Crank is a nice piece, lightened and journals narrowed.. rods just above a Honda rod.. Pins are a little small so might have to leave compression at 11-1 but make up in cam timing.. parts are not cheap but to go 8600-8800 you need to get the good stuff Bob:G-Dub: |
Good luck, Bob!
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While waiting on the engine parts, etc I am installing a new
seat, moving pedals etc...I am 6'2 1/2" so need to open it up I am also going to get the car wrapped to try and calm down the yellow color so playing with paper etc to see what works This is some progress Bob |
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Bought a restored 70's Homelite Tractor to use when
I need to move the Race car in and out of the shop Getting too old to push things around... my 6 year old Grand nephew has a new toy Bob |
That's cool! :thumbsup:
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Gt-1 is wrapped.. still waiting on pistons and valves
Due in a couple of weeks Bob |
Nose Bird!
Love the 70-73 nose bird on the hood!
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I found the Nose Bird in a bunch of things
I had left over from my Firebird..... Sorry to say I sold the Firebird so this will be my new Trans am even though it is a Monte Carlo body:) GT-1 Trans am car Bob |
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Bought a new aluminum trailer because the old
one was too short.. Gt-1 is really wide and long but it works.. pretty cool having a light trailer as you can move it around pretty easy. Winch installed looking for tool boxes and then will build a tire rack Bob |
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Spent a day putting support tubes for the new
front splitter.. last night worked on layout for the new splitter... Hope to cut it tomorrow Other news.. Sb2 engine pistons shipped last week so I may see any engine in the next month Bob |
You're making good progress, Bob!
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Splitter is installed.. ordered up some rod supports
Hopefully I will see an Engine soon Bob |
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Finished the Rear Diffuser
Still waiting on the Engine Bob |
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