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Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 04:44 PM

Penny's new little sister?
 
Calling tonight to make an offer on this '68 Camaro.. well, it's a '68 Camaro with a '67 quarter, one less side marker to fill. lol Seems like a decent roller considering some of the turds I've looked at.

Whatch think?

No numbers matching 350/powerslide combo, rebuilt subrame
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr1.jpg

Original quarter with minimal filler
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr2.jpg

Clean floors, no rust. Original auto car
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr3.jpg

No rust in the cowl and the window channels look good. I think the car came from Arizona at some point.
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr4.jpg

Underside looks good.. grungy but no rust.
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr5.jpg

Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 04:45 PM

Passengers side quarter was replaced long ago. They did an "ok" job of it. The frame has a slight buckle. Should be about to fix it on the frame rack if needed.
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr6.jpg

Pretty sure the back panel was replaced with the quarter. Looks to be OEM parts (makes sense since they were done long ago.) Trunk lid is new as well.
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr7.jpg

Replaced quarter. Panel alignment seems decent. The "inner" areas are a bit rough. I bet it was an insurance repair back before these cars were worth anything.
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr8.jpg

All the trim and most of the parts come with the car. Missing the front glass but who cares.Can anyone ID this gearbox??? Doesn't look OEM, I have an idea who's it is but I want to confirm.
http://picsorban.com/upload/tr9.jpg

I ran the magnet sheet over the car. I could tell theres a little filler in the car, but since the glass is out I could look in and see it was a "poke and pop" deal, typical dent repair deal. No real rust issues that I saw.

jack67rs 02-12-2008 04:53 PM

What part of that car is a 67??

Todds69 02-12-2008 04:55 PM

Looks like quite the find, as long as the $$ decent...go for it.

Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack67rs
What part of that car is a 67??

Actually.. I just ran the numbers and it's a '68.. The guy thought it was a '67 with '68 fenders but it's really a '68 with a '67 rear quarter. lol

He thought the windwings were in boxes with the rest of the parts. But the VIN says '68 :)

monza 02-12-2008 05:54 PM

Looks like a good roller, all depends on the cost? ( another girl...should be Penny's bad ass little bro)

I've always thought a great start would be from this place Mike Custom Cars- http://www.mikescustomcars.com/69bodies.htm#

Maybe not what what your looking for just a thought and doesn't make for a exciting start for a mag article. Add the cost of your roller then all the repair to get it to that stage seems like a fair price?



But back to the start..... did you buy it and for how much?? :)

mazspeed 02-12-2008 06:04 PM

Hey Steve, what are your plans with the car?

Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monza
But back to the start..... did you buy it and for how much?? :)

Actually those bodies look pretty good.. prices seem "fair" for what you get.

I just got off the phone, I paid $5.900 which I think is pretty good for a solid roller.

It wouldn't be that hard to get running and on the road.. but I might as well start in on the fun stuff :)

Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazspeed
Hey Steve, what are your plans with the car?

I don't know.. I'm sorta torn.

Plan 1.

Budget build.. 5.3 LS truck engine.. modified factory subframe... suede black paint, killer wheels, C5 brakes .. A real track vibe, a look sorta like f-bomb.

Plan 2.

Nicer build (not Penny nice). LS7 engine or built LS3.. aftermarket subframe.. suede black paint, killer wheels, Big brakes, track vibe.. same as above.


I want the car to have a very sinister look. I'm open to ideas

awr68 02-12-2008 06:41 PM

This will be fun to watch!!

brownz 02-12-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
I don't know.. I'm sorta torn.

Plan 1.

Budget build.. 5.3 LS truck engine.. modified factory subframe... suede black paint, killer wheels, C5 brakes .. A real track vibe, a look sorta like f-bomb.

Plan 2.

Nicer build (not Penny nice). LS7 engine or built LS3.. aftermarket subframe.. suede black paint, killer wheels, Big brakes, track vibe.. same as above.


I want the car to have a very sinister look. I'm open to ideas

Would go with #1 just cuz would be cool to see what you can do on a budget. Plus with a Ls7 would just piss Penny off lol but dont forget the forgeline wheels no need for a budget on that and FLAT paint is sweet try white think that would be cool! just a thought

Brandon

Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brownz
Would go with #1 just cuz would be cool to see what you can do on a budget. Plus with a Ls7 would just piss Penny off lol but dont forget the forgeline wheels no need for a budget on that and FLAT paint is sweet try white think that would be cool! just a thought

Brandon

That's what I was thinking.. I can't afford to build a car nicer than Penny.. so I want to build it different. A real mil-spec look but with wipers for Power Tour and maybe even a hidden AC system.

Other than that I want it lightweight and fast.. and lots of black.

Besides, If I build it budget first I can always go back and do the higher-end stuff.

I know the look the car will have, just figuring out the parts selection.

JohnC 02-12-2008 06:57 PM

Congrats on the new find, Steve! Looks very solid.

Ideas, eh? Sure, I have plenty for you...

How about all-wheel drive, or a turbo, or big billet chevy rallyes....:willy: :faint:

...something different and unique is always cool.:cool:

John

monza 02-12-2008 07:08 PM

That's a good price for sure... a budget build would be fun to watch... fun cause you'd never be able to do it! Unless "freebees" and good guy deals don't get tossed into the budget.:thumbsup:

XcYZ 02-12-2008 07:14 PM

Looks like the perfect victim, Steve.

I'll throw my 2 cents in... I think you should build the biggest cube LS motor you can afford/fit into the budget and drop a set of L92 heads on it.

Nine Ball 02-12-2008 07:36 PM

You already have a mega-buck 68, so I'd say go for the ultimate bang-for-the-buck hotrod with this one. See how nice of a car you can build with a limit of $25K invested, doing most of the work yourself.

jack67rs 02-12-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine Ball
You already have a mega-buck 68, so I'd say go for the ultimate bang-for-the-buck hotrod with this one. See how nice of a car you can build with a limit of $25K invested, doing most of the work yourself.

I agree, maybe a trans am style racer on a budget. although I was'nt crazy about the g/28 camaro phr did, I think it would be easier to accomplish with a first gen.

Vegas69 02-12-2008 07:56 PM

I saw you shopping on Ebay the other night. I didn't figure the cat was coming out of the bag this quick. Suede black driver would be really cool.:yes:

bigtyme1 02-12-2008 07:58 PM

Paint it Silver and call it SuzanB:unibrow:

Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack67rs
I agree, maybe a trans am style racer on a budget. although I was'nt crazy about the g/28 camaro phr did, I think it would be easier to accomplish with a first gen.

We'll see.. the look will most certainly be different from Penny. Not sure on the parts load out.. maybe a mix of nice stuff and budget stuff.

Like an aftermarket subframe with OEM brakes.. that sort of deal. A super budget 5.3L or used LS1...

Oh well, I have time to decide.. gonna take a bit to get the body in fighting form.

I'm thinking of a name.. Project Track Rat... I don't think it's been used before in the PT circle..

Steve1968LS2 02-12-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtyme1
Paint it Silver and call it SuzanB:unibrow:

The the best "play on Penny" line I've heard.. PM me your address and t-shirt size.. you WIN! ;)

Rybar 02-12-2008 08:09 PM

Nice score Steve, you just can't get enough of LSX powered 1st gens. :thumbsup: That looks like a pretty solid body which is the main thing.

I'd like to see the most you could get out of a stock subframe with say DSE coil overs and ATS spindles. Maybe try out an air-bar or g-bar rear suspension. I'd paint it charcoal metallic grey on black ralley stripes. With some charcoal centered Fikse profil 5s 18's. And for power I'd do a pullout 6.0L truck motor with L92/L76 setup and a T56. Let's see if you can do a budget build without it snowballing too much :lol:

Smack_talker 02-12-2008 08:30 PM

If your gunna do the budget deal, I say a budget street fighter would be cool. First gen without all the bling would be diff at this point.

rwhite692 02-12-2008 09:30 PM

Steve, just buy it. You need it. It needs you.

<edit> Oh wait, I see that you pulled the trigger. Excellent.

-Rob

Vegas69 02-12-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybar
Nice score Steve, you just can't get enough of LSX powered 1st gens. :thumbsup: That looks like a pretty solid body which is the main thing.

I'd like to see the most you could get out of a stock subframe with say DSE coil overs and ATS spindles. Maybe try out an air-bar or g-bar rear suspension. I'd paint it charcoal metallic grey on black ralley stripes. With some charcoal centered Fikse profil 5s 18's. And for power I'd do a pullout 6.0L truck motor with L92/L76 setup and a T56. Let's see if you can do a budget build without it snowballing too much :lol:

You already blew the budget in one paragraph!!:D

DWMotorsports 02-12-2008 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
I don't know.. I'm sorta torn.

I want the car to have a very sinister look. I'm open to ideas

Build a Chevelle :rofl:



Looks like a nice starter for sure...:thumbsup:

Spiffav8 02-12-2008 09:43 PM

Looks good to me! Should be able to build a real nice car with what you have in mind.

Like Anthony said...This will be fun to watch. Though I'm betting it will be more wild than mild knowing you. :unibrow:

ArisESQ 02-12-2008 10:04 PM

Personally I don't see the point in building another camaro pro-touring style when you have Penny... which has pretty much every pro-touring bell and whistle you can imagine.

I'm probably gonna get al kinds of crap for even suggesting this, but maybe since you already have arguably one of the nicest pro-touring camaro builds out there, why not try building something a little more like pro-street meets pro-touring meets street racer... like some big shiny wheels, with plenty of tire in the back, a huge cube LSX with forced induction, and some nitrous maybe... I dunno. I feel like something like that could potentially be a lot of fun to build.

DriverzInc 02-12-2008 10:20 PM

I have to agree, flat black is getting a little too done. Maybe tone on tone with a flat grey, with gloss grey graphics, and then flat black powder coat the trim. Do your motor up in grey's and brushed look. Just a couple of ideas for color schems....

Sent you a PM, I have some great ideas for wheels! :thumbsup:

Payton King 02-13-2008 06:58 AM

Congrats on the new purchase.
 
Nice looking car!

I would make it a track rat just like you stated earlier. Epoxy primer (tinted to your choice of colors) , full cage, LSX motor and aftermarket subframe. I think you will have about the same amount in modifying stock one. Maybe even some steel NASCAR rims and rubber....slight flair of fenders on all corners.

Keep Penny shiney and beat the crap out of Buffalo (as in Buffalo nickle)

So you don't answer your PM's? What do I need to do to get on the A list? LOL

Steve1968LS2 02-13-2008 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill steez
Personally I don't see the point in building another camaro pro-touring style when you have Penny... which has pretty much every pro-touring bell and whistle you can imagine.

I'm probably gonna get al kinds of crap for even suggesting this, but maybe since you already have arguably one of the nicest pro-touring camaro builds out there, why not try building something a little more like pro-street meets pro-touring meets street racer... like some big shiny wheels, with plenty of tire in the back, a huge cube LSX with forced induction, and some nitrous maybe... I dunno. I feel like something like that could potentially be a lot of fun to build.

That sounds exactly like f-bomb.. lol

I don't know.. I see many different ways to build a "PT" style car.. Anyone that knows me KNOWS I can't build something junky.. I just can't. So, that leaves nice and expensive or nice and inexpensive. Expensive would be an $80k car.. inexpensive would be in the $25k range. Or I could shoot for a mid range budget of $40k. Hell, my Fairlane has $36k in it (counting the car) and it's considered a "real guy's car".

I want something that's the poster child for Street Fighter.. needless to say I will be speaking with Steevo and working out ideas.

Steve1968LS2 02-13-2008 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by race-rodz
ok...after pondering this a lil longer im gonna outline the "plan" for ya:unibrow:



semi gloss tan...forget the camo idea. scca cage, with a vid cam mount(we want in car vids) black out anything that was supposed to be shiny...including the wheels. speaking of wheels.... NO mini-tubs.... 255's/275's, 3-link, simple oe based brakes w/ cooling ducting, tradional iron block/alum head sbc(big bore/short stroke)...dry sump is a must, along with overkill cooling, trans&diff coolers. CARB'd...no stinkin efi... 8mpg MAX. tko trans, stock subframe... worked over with a "kit". "real" spoilers f&r....window "straps". 32 gal fuel cell(think 90 miles wide open:_paranoid )
on board nav/timer set-up, fresh-air system/helemt radio communication

then tune for the elevation in Ely, NV :unibrow:

I'm digging every one of those things EXCEPT the engine.. I'm an EFI guys and carbs just suck. Besides, with EFI I wouldn't HAVE to tune for elevation.. just bring you the car. lol -- TKO 600 for sure.

I'm really leaning towards a satin car.. blacked out parts with any stainless brushed. Non-mini tubbed (for now). OEM brakes. "real" spoilers. window straps, big tank (although those get pricey). LOTS of cooling. I might even do stories on building two frames. The first would be a fully-modified stocker and the second an aftermarket frame.. see how the price REALLY shakes out. I like the aftermarket frame since you can run wider front tires. 265 front and 275 rears would be nice.

68protouring454 02-13-2008 07:22 AM

sounds killer steve, how about 275s all around like carlc runs? i can't wait to watch the build transpire, its gonna be badass:cheers:

ArisESQ 02-13-2008 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
That sounds exactly like f-bomb.. lol

I don't know.. I see many different ways to build a "PT" style car.. Anyone that knows me KNOWS I can't build something junky.. I just can't. So, that leaves nice and expensive or nice and inexpensive. Expensive would be an $80k car.. inexpensive would be in the $25k range. Or I could shoot for a mid range budget of $40k. Hell, my Fairlane has $36k in it (counting the car) and it's considered a "real guy's car".

I want something that's the poster child for Street Fighter.. needless to say I will be speaking with Steevo and working out ideas.

I agree that there are probably a thousand way to build a PT car, but in the end they are intended to serve at least vaguely the same purpose... Thats why I figure a car like F-Bomb would be cool to see. They have a lot of character and are a blast to build and drive.

Stuart Adams 02-13-2008 09:49 AM

I'm looking inside my crystal ball and I see 100K in the future, LOL.

Steve1968LS2 02-13-2008 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by race-rodz
semi gloss tan...

Hey, maybe I will steal your avatar for my nose art.. ;)

Steve1968LS2 02-13-2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Adams
I'm looking inside my crystal ball and I see 100K in the future, LOL.

Maybe I will build it twice.. the first budget.. then "all out".. see if the "all out" car is any better.

:yes:

Musclerodz 02-13-2008 10:11 AM

For a track rat, I would not go black, that would be one hot SOB on track day. I say white epoxy primer/sealer, blacked out trim, wheels, etc. THen you can sticker it to death with sponsors. Carbed 5.3 or 6.0, stinger hood. NO mini tubs, notched stock sub for tire clearance. ATS spindles, SC&C upper arms, coil over shocks, Alston "G" bar, Fays2 watts link.

ArisESQ 02-13-2008 10:15 AM

Personally I think you should do minitubs just because they suit these cars so well. I realize that there isn't necessarily a huge performance advantage for a track car, but then again if you wanted to build an all out race car to dominate at the track, I feel like a first gen camaro may not be the best starting point.

mad68rs 02-13-2008 10:20 AM

Hey steve I was thinking about a 5.3L truck engine too, but i haven't seen very many "built" ones. How much horsepower and torque do you think you could pull out of one? Enough to hold up at the track?


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