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Dr. Jekyll 10-30-2016 08:49 PM

Really neat to see all the mods coming through!

extralight 10-31-2016 12:53 AM

Awesome work! Can't wait to see the new suspension go it.

CamaroAJ 10-31-2016 07:11 AM

Thanks guys, this is going to a lot of work and I'm just sick enough to be looking forward to it lol.

CamaroAJ 12-03-2016 08:37 PM

So not a lot has been going on with the car. I've been getting things lined up in order to make this happen. I picked up a wrecked C5Z and dropped it off to get the frame back in check. This takes care of my fuel system, suspension mount points, some of the firewall, and trans tunnel.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0706.jpg

While it's at the body shop I decided on Anvil carbon mirrors.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0705.jpg

And then I started seeing if power mirror motors will fit. Going to be tight, but should work.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0704.jpg

Last night I did some really rough mock up. And I mean really rough lol

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0702.jpg

It's going to be really really close without cutting metal

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0701.jpg

Today I built a frame jig that I could use to keep the car mobile, hold it from moving around and be able to mount brackets to help hold the new suspension in place. I still have some more body brackets to attach, but I got the harder stuff stuff done.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0700.jpg

AB69Z 12-03-2016 10:11 PM

Mirrors
 
What are you using for the power mirrors motors and ect...

CamaroAJ 12-04-2016 08:06 AM

5th gen Camaro mirror motors then I'll just order replacement 2nd gen Camaro mirror glass.

Efi69Cam 12-04-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 650003)
5th gen Camaro mirror motors then I'll just order replacement 2nd gen Camaro mirror glass.

How are you going to mount the mirror motor to the housing? I've been working on a similar project with 4th gen motors in stock 70 camaro mirrors like what V8TV did.

I'd think that someone would offer a 2nd gen style mirror in power by now.

Mikael A 12-04-2016 03:14 PM

sooo bad a$$

CamaroAJ 12-04-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Efi69Cam (Post 650023)
How are you going to mount the mirror motor to the housing? I've been working on a similar project with 4th gen motors in stock 70 camaro mirrors like what V8TV did.

I'd think that someone would offer a 2nd gen style mirror in power by now.

I don't know yet. I have a set of 5th gen mirrors I'm gonna cut up to try and make it a bolt together deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael A (Post 650027)
sooo bad a$$

Thank you:thumbsup:

waynieZ 12-04-2016 08:29 PM

This is going to be interesting watching this go together. I love the mirrors in Carbon fiber. I hope it works out.

CamaroAJ 12-05-2016 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 650046)
This is going to be interesting watching this go together. I love the mirrors in Carbon fiber. I hope it works out.

It will always work out. How its planned to work out and how in the end it works out maybe different. With a tape measure so far most of it is going to work, the rest I won't know until I get the frame under the car to measure more. Lots of cutting to take place tonight though lol.

CamaroAJ 12-10-2016 06:22 PM

Not much of an update because dismantling a corvette takes time apparently. :superhack:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0712.jpg

In other news, Kris Horton got my new update done on Temper 2.0, I'm pretty happy about it.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0710.jpg

Mikael A 12-11-2016 04:53 AM

daaaamn thats hot.

CamaroAJ 12-12-2016 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael A (Post 650369)
daaaamn thats hot.

Thanks, that's the same thing I said when I saw it lol.

Build-It-Break-it 12-12-2016 01:24 PM

That's a killer rendering. I love that blue to.

syborg tt 12-12-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it (Post 650453)
That's a killer rendering. I love that blue to.

ya what he said but I will holy **** that's a great rendering.

waynieZ 12-13-2016 08:38 AM

Sweet! I love that back end!!

CamaroAJ 12-13-2016 08:09 PM

Thanks guys. The more I look at the render and think about how it's going to be when done the more I want to drive it. :drive:

AB69Z 12-14-2016 02:57 AM

Are you planning to do that roof recess detail?

CamaroAJ 12-14-2016 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AB69Z (Post 650567)
Are you planning to do that roof recess detail?

Yes, I had been thinking about doing it since I bought a Z/28 and wasn't sure if I'd like it and then the Roadster Shop beat me to the punch.

Josh@Ridetech 12-14-2016 12:34 PM

I love the renderings, the color, everything is awesome! I can't wait to see it come together.

CamaroAJ 12-26-2016 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@Ridetech (Post 650586)
I love the renderings, the color, everything is awesome! I can't wait to see it come together.

Thanks, it'd be even cooler with some Ridetech C5 suspension components on it :whistling: :yes:

Since the front of the first frame was trashed and I needed to increase my wheel base 3.5" I picked another frame.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0210.jpg

I got the first frame measured out and rough cut.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0231.jpg

We were closed this weekend and I didn't have to work today so Friday evening I set things up for operation.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0269.jpg

I got the cut line from the other chassis transferred over and the 3.5" added after a ton of measurements from about 15 different points that are in the same locations on both chassis.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0296.jpg

After a lot of cutting, measuring, clamps, tack welds, and more measurements I now have a longer frame that's within 1/16" of square and the new 108" wheel base. Lots more stripping to do before it's ready for the new outer frame rails and to fit up in the Camaro.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0299.jpg

waynieZ 12-26-2016 08:19 PM

Looking Sweet AJ. I can't even imagine the measuring it took to get it that close. Nice work.

CamaroAJ 12-26-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 651303)
Looking Sweet AJ. I can't even imagine the measuring it took to get it that close. Nice work.

Thanks, Wayne. The trick to it was holding your tongue right lol.

desids 01-02-2017 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 650360)
In other news, Kris Horton got my new update done on Temper 2.0, I'm pretty happy about it.

Holy crap! That rendering is bad ass! Stance, color, everything - just wow.

CamaroAJ 01-12-2017 09:51 PM

So I've been working on the corvette frame to get it ready to meet its new home to the point I don't want to cut anymore until I get them side by side so I can make sure all my measurements are correct. This is where the vette frame is at, both "A" pillars are cut off and the toe boards are prepped for a new firewall once it's in the body. Cut off the battery support and some other random stuff that I don't need and is in the way.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0346.jpg

I swapped out the frame for the Camaro as they only let me keep one car at a time at work and continued rough cutting and getting stuff ready for fitment. It's a huge pain in the butt because I had a trailer hitch welded in, but I've got most of the trunk floor out.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0400.jpg

So the floor boards on a vette frame come in at 53" wide. Add 4" for frame rails and that puts me at 57" wide to try and fit into a Camaro.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0411.jpg

With the help of my plasma cutter I removed a good section of the inner rocker and a little bit of the outer rocker. And then measured some more. From my measurements I've found that I can fit a modified 2x4" box tube into the rockers. It will be cut so it's still 2" on the top side, but 1/2" on the bottom side and a new section welded in. While I feel not as strong as the original hydroformed vette frame rails, I'm pretty sure it's stronger than sheet metal rockers, and with the cage, way stronger than a stock '69 Camaro ever was.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0415.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0416.jpg

Last on this round of updates is the front view of the rendering. Kris Horton gave me some wheel color options to see how I liked a few that I was thinking about.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0355.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0352.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0356.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0353.jpg

And the ones I decided on, smoked clear polished.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0354.jpg

Back to work on it tomorrow :superhack:

rickpaw 01-13-2017 05:06 AM

The Camaro is going to be bad a$$. Love the rendering.

What part of San Antonio are you in? I'm in Houston, but drive to SA once a month for the weekend.

CamaroAJ 01-13-2017 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickpaw (Post 652353)
The Camaro is going to be bad a$$. Love the rendering.

What part of San Antonio are you in? I'm in Houston, but drive to SA once a month for the weekend.

Thanks, hopefully sooner than later it will be done.

The north east side. 1604/35 area by the Forum.

CamaroAJ 01-28-2017 03:36 PM

Slow but steady progress on the car. Today I finished up the welding and grinding on the second frame rail. I used 2x4" 1/8" square tube and cut the bottom and part of the side and reboxed it in with flat 1/8" strap. This let me use 4" instead of 3" and should be just as strong if not stronger than the factory Corvette frame once it's welded into the factory Corvette frame, what's left of the rockers, and the roll cage.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0518.jpg

And a test fit with a test piece. Fits like a glove. I'll also still be able to use the factory style door stills too.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0517.jpgd

And more cutting of the old inner rocker. That's what takes the most time, getting everything cut right as to not mess up the stuff I need to save.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0519.jpg

Bakaruda 01-28-2017 06:18 PM

I for one LOVE THIS THING! This from a guy who is not crazy about a 69 Camaro.

:king:

waynieZ 01-28-2017 08:35 PM

AJ I was just reading this and thought back to when you cut the firewall to set the motor back, You've Come A Long Way Baby! Nice Work.

CamaroAJ 01-29-2017 08:03 AM

Thanks guys.

Wayne, the cars transformed a ton. It seemed like I was taking steps back instead of forward, but I'm much happier with this setup and actually excited to get it done now.

rustomatic 01-29-2017 08:50 AM

It's great seeing someone with skills do the Vulcan car-meld. I just wish you'd done this a couple years ago . . .

It's funny how similar the C5 parts/chassis you're showing look to the C4 stuff I chopped the crud out of. In the beginning, it's like yeah, I can use this and this and this, but no. Chop, cut, change materials. Stock (Corvette) floors and firewall are so scary and cheap--talk to a firefighter/rescue person about this. It's the application of new sheetmetal that's a real blast, once you've got that frame in there. Yours will undoubtedly look far less like sight-impaired surgery training than mine.

Again, seeing your skills put to work at this is great. You'll undoubtedly like the Corvette car dynamics considerably more than the older-school stuff you removed. Additionally, the idea of replacement parts down the road becomes much simpler . . .

Keep at it!

CamaroAJ 01-29-2017 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 653323)
It's great seeing someone with skills do the Vulcan car-meld. I just wish you'd done this a couple years ago . . .

Again, seeing your skills put to work at this is great. You'll undoubtedly like the Corvette car dynamics considerably more than the older-school stuff you removed. Additionally, the idea of replacement parts down the road becomes much simpler . . .

Keep at it!


Thank you for the positive feedback. This was my original build intention, but when I started doing the research on it everyone says it's impossible and talked me out of it. Actually they still kinda do or they say I'll never get it done because it's more involved than anyone thinks. I also plan on keeping the fiberglass/balsa wood floors. The weight and strength win out for me. The firewall will for sure be metal and I already have a few ideas for it. I am intending a fire suppression system though, just in case.

As to the handling of the car, I've owned a few vettes and I've driven hundreds of them. So I should get exactly what I'm looking for, modern vette performance with the old school muscle car vibe. Like a wolf in sheep clothing lol.

Zoomin 01-29-2017 07:08 PM

Four wheeled awesomeness. :thumbsup:

Picking colors is always tough but those red wheels with a white stripe on the body would be Grand Sport killer.

CamaroAJ 02-06-2017 08:29 PM

I got some more cutting done this weekend and then tested the frame rails. I have a little more cutting to do in the trunk then I'm going to send the car out for soda blasting and epoxy while I weld the new frame rails to the vette frame. Any who, the frame rails fit exactly how I thought they would and are exactly the width I needed.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0564.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0566.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0565.jpg

desids 02-13-2017 08:18 AM

Wow much more involved than I thought. Very cool - go for it.

Sonar Chief 02-13-2017 09:03 AM

Nice
 
Oustanding fab skills there! You gotta love it when a plan comes together, keep it up!

Michael

CamaroAJ 02-13-2017 04:39 PM

Thanks guys. I'm hoping to get the body finished up on the removal of stuff I don't need on it this week and start on the frame Saturday. I'm thinking about dropping off the body at the soda blaster to get it down to metal and shoot it with epoxy so that's one less thing to worry about.

I also have an engine plan in the works that I just kinda fell into. Not what I wanted, but it will workout just fine.

CamaroAJ 02-18-2017 03:28 PM

After trying to get one of these superchargers from work for months I finally was able to get ahold of one. I'm taking a more budget, although still expensive, friendly approach to my engine.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0599.jpg

It lasted about 15 minutes before I had it torn down and started blue printing it for port work and ordered a solid coupler to fix the noise.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0608.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0615.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0616.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0614.jpg

So far I have about 3 hours into porting it. I have one bank done and I'm about half done with the other bank. This is the main area that needs all the work. Lots of hogging out done so far.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...IMG_0659_1.jpg

Today I got a good start on the frame rails until I ran out of welding wire. The passenger side is in, fish plates from the backside then reformed the vette frame to better fit the new rails. Hopefully I'll be able to get the rear section finished in the next week or so.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...IMG_0674_1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...o/IMG_0673.jpg

I also dropped the car off at the soda blaster. It should be done in about 2 weeks.


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