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CraigMorrison
04-11-2007, 06:59 PM
Mark & Steve, here's a link to one of the more infamous video clips from last year's Bullrun that I was telling you about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLw_Y-WuuI


But as they say, its not a race, its a rally.


Not condoning this kind of action....I was just telling Mark (Mean69) and Steve (Mr. Bad Penny) about this one and since other Steve (Twist Machine) may be going and a few board members are on the TV version I thought everybody would be interested in having a look.

Streetking
04-11-2007, 07:09 PM
That's just a normal drive to work for me..

Seriously, I love driving fast but now days, our cities are getting too crowded and I would be pissed if these guys were driving like that with my wife or daughter on the highway..

SW

lil427z
04-11-2007, 07:22 PM
that is not to bright.
rick k:wow:

ProdigyCustoms
04-11-2007, 08:59 PM
230 KPH (142MPH) in traffic! Reminds me the the "High Rollers Club" here in Orlando. To be in the high rollers, you have to average more then 100MPH in traffic, on the interstate through downtown Orlando from point A to Point B, About 15 miles. Mostly imports, 4 dr Hondas do it. There was a story on the news about a police task force to bust the high rollers. They need it.

Steve1968LS2
04-11-2007, 09:08 PM
I could drive fast and risk my own life. If I screwed up and died it would suck, but that's the chance taken.

But to drive fast and kill some innocent bystander, that's just not acceptable on any level. It's why I'm so dead set against street racing.

However, I would love to do something like Bullrun or one of the Nevada open road deals.

Since I have sped on public roads in my past I won't play the hypocrite and judge others. I just try to behave these days.

zbugger
04-11-2007, 09:20 PM
I used to do that for fun. Pretty stupid, actually. It takes some balls to do that. Unfortunately though, the balls replaces your brains.

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 04:23 AM
If that's what it takes to win, then I guess we won't be coming in first.

ProdigyCustoms
04-12-2007, 05:08 AM
Yeah, if I remeber right, didn't you catch a little Sheot for your paddle shifter drive video on backroads? And all you did was grab a few gears (or should I say push a couple buttons)?

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 05:40 AM
Not quite. I illegally crosed a double yellow line to avoid junk falling off the back of a rack truck. It was like a pro-touring meets Sanford & Son nightmare.

And I'd do it again to protect my car.

CraigMorrison
04-12-2007, 06:00 AM
I wonder what Ford management had to say about their designer driving the GT? I've watched a lot of these vids, and all of the rallys- Gumball, Bullrun, Players Run, Cannonball Europe, Carbon Black, etc. all are based around high speed driving and pushing the boundaries of what's socially acceptable driving.
The Great American Run is trying to reign this in and time checks are going to be based on a 61mph average speed with the winner from East Coast to Vegas to LA winning a new Saleen Mustang.

There are individuals in all of these rallys that push this more than others as evidence by the video above. Do a search for "Lonman" on YouTube to see one of the more notorious Gumball drivers. Quite a few of the Gumball drivers are using police sirens and LED strobes to clear a path and to be "safer". One of the more famous Gumballers Alex Roy actually dressed his M5 up as a police car each year to justify the lights, police scanners etc. Here he even gets a police escort through a city in Italy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dqKskoTyc *** contains some adult language***

It is going to be interesting to see how as these events become more mainstreem how the less experienced "Fast & Furious" croud tries to emulate these events. I can only imagine how the shmucks who pay to watch the movie "RedLine" will want to go out and reinact the film.

Having said that, these high-dollar rallys across the US and Europe would be a blast to be part of, its just up to you how hard you want to push. Oh yea and where to find the $10,000-45,000 entry fee for one of these one week events :wow:

CraigMorrison
04-12-2007, 06:03 AM
Not quite. I illegally crosed a double yellow line to avoid junk falling off the back of a rack truck. It was like a pro-touring meets Sanford & Son nightmare.

And I'd do it again to protect my car.

But isn't that kind of like a tree in the woods sort of thing? If the MAN didn't see it, is it really illegal?

Also, thanks for the Sanford & Son comment. Now I have that god-forsaken theme song stuck in my head. :lol:

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 06:11 AM
Having said that, these high-dollar rallys across the US and Europe would be a blast to be part of, its just up to you how hard you want to push. Oh yea and where to find the $10,000-45,000 entry fee for one of these one week events :wow:


Exactly. As pro-touring enthusiasts, we ALL speed. It would be duplicitous to state otherwise. 70 in a 30, and most of us are guilty of shooting up to 110 in a 70 and then lifting. But that video was quite clear. Two bozos passing the rest of the Bullrun field at sustained high speeds. And for what? They need to spend more time refueling. Somthing tells me that thir approach is NO the fast way around the "track".

$17,500 gets you a swanky hotel room in each city, access to the Bullrun private parties (they rent out some pretty cool clubs) and meals. That works out to $2500 per day plus fuel. :faint: I think we spent $300 per day on Power Tour last year.

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 06:16 AM
But isn't that kind of like a tree in the woods sort of thing? If the MAN didn't see it, is it really illegal?

Not really. That sort of sustained high speed driving on public roads ASSUMES that the cars around you will not do anything stupid. It assumes that you will not experience tire failure. It assumes that you will not encounter debris in the road. It also assumes that you have a really good, high paid lawyer on call.

The Bullrun winner will balance speed with navigation skills, reliability and fuel mileage/range. The guys who drive the fastest and suffer the worst hangovers will NOT win--regardless of what the PR shows. Right now we're spending our brain cells on the fuel mileage/range part of the equation. We are building a Bullrun fuel tank(s). I hope we get to use it.

CraigMorrison
04-12-2007, 06:36 AM
Right now we're spending our brain cells on the fuel mileage/range part of the equation. We are building a Bullrun fuel tank(s). I hope we get to use it.

I hope you get to use it too:thumbsup: I'm thinking if you can get your range in the 500 mile zone you should be good to go! The farthest range I've heard of is one of the Gumball drivers has enough for around 800 miles. I don't know about you, but my bladder just couldn't last that long.....I guess some trucker bombs would be in order.

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 07:22 AM
Gonna need some stiffer springs too.

LateNight72
04-12-2007, 07:28 AM
On an open road, where there is limited traffic, It is fine to "have a little fun".

I think that the quality (read: driver's ability) of people on the Bullrun, Gumball, and the rest are alot higher then the average joe. It is the Fast & Furious type folk who "believe" they know how to drive, and simulate what they saw, are the people who kill pedestrians & other motorists.


Steve, good luck with the Bullrun. :thumbsup:

comp-spec
04-12-2007, 07:36 AM
Good luck Steve I hope you get in. HOW DO I VOTE

We were asked to take the Camaro on the Inaugural Invhational FIREBALL RUN RALLY Orlando to LA. 5000.00 + 9 nights at a 4 star or better resort to start

MarkM66
04-12-2007, 07:41 AM
Gonna need some stiffer springs too.

Maybe some air bags over leafs...

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 09:09 AM
Maybe some air bags over leafs...

....and some PIAA spots, and a police scanner, and a fuzzbuster, and a radar jammer, and some nitrous and a push bar and this paddle ball game, and this ash tray. AND THAT'S ALL I NEED!

CraigMorrison
04-12-2007, 09:29 AM
Don't worry about the radar jammer- passive ones don't work, and active ones are a federal offence to use.

Laser jammers are a whole different ball game. New ones from europe even function as a parking sensor for parallel parking. They just happen to block laser guns as well.

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 04:26 PM
Don't worry about the radar jammer- passive ones don't work, and active ones are a federal offence to use.

Laser jammers are a whole different ball game. New ones from europe even function as a parking sensor for parallel parking. They just happen to block laser guns as well.

Gosh, you sure do know a lot about this sort of thing, huh?:_paranoid

Steve Chryssos
04-12-2007, 04:30 PM
Good luck Steve I hope you get in. HOW DO I VOTE

We were asked to take the Camaro on the Inaugural Invhational FIREBALL RUN RALLY Orlando to LA. 5000.00 + 9 nights at a 4 star or better resort to start

You gotta go to cardomain.com and sign up. The go to my page and vote at the top left.

My page:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2563772

CraigMorrison
04-12-2007, 05:09 PM
Gosh, you sure do know a lot about this sort of thing, huh?:_paranoid

Well, for now lets just say I am a fan of the rallies with a passive interest in the gadgets and countermeasures.