Paddle shifted TKO500/600

[XcYZ]

Anyone else see this?

http://www.lateral-g.org/events/barrettjackson2007/IMG_7670.jpg

http://www.lateral-g.org/events/barrettjackson2007/IMG_7671.jpg

[Steve Firebird]

Any one have more information? Looks interesting

[fesler]

I will be doing an install on the Paddle shifted TKO500/600 on our Camaro and let me tell you this thing is sick. I dont have all the specs on it yet but they have a model for Standard thats right for your 5sp or 6sp and Automatic. This is the coolest thing I have seen and they have been testing them on Trophy trucks for years now.

They are finally ready to go on the street and we will show you it here first. You can do all kinds of programming for different shifting patterns and it looks like a lot of fun. The best part you never have to take your hands of the wheel to shift.

updates on this comeing very soon and we are getting set up as dealers now if anyone is intersted in more information on these. I will post cost and other info very soon on them.

I thought you would like this Scott it is very cool :bow:

[4mm]

they have a model for Standard thats right for your 5sp or 6sp and Automatic.

Would an application include the T56?

[61Bubbletop]

Looks like it is corded?...That might get irritating...I do like the gear display in the hub though...

[californiacuda]

Sorry for the stupid question, would the clutch pedal still need to be depressed and released while shifting?

[Steve1968LS2]

Do you still need to depress the clutch?

[fesler]

I am getting all the info on the system now for what it will work with, You do still need to clutch the car it will not stop that but you remove the shifter from the car as it is replaced with the new unit. The cords can be as long or short as you want and they are not in the way when mounted.

[JUSTANOVA]

I am getting all the info on the system now for what it will work with, You do still need to clutch the car it will not stop that but you remove the shifter from the car as it is replaced with the new unit. The cords can be as long or short as you want and they are not in the way when mounted.

do you have to clutch while shifting? would be nice if they would set it up to actuate the clutch while shifting like on the oem paddle shifters.

[rockdogz]

Cool - like the e-gear in the Lamborghini.... that one pushes the clutch for you, this one would have to be the same I'm sure

[Stuart Adams]

Looks like it is corded?...That might get irritating...I do like the gear display in the hub though...

I like that also. Anyone have more detailed info on the workings of this.

[ProdigyCustoms]

It is not going to be out for a few more months, May to June. We are in talks of using it for Lisa's car, but they are still working out some details right now and it may not be ready before we need it. I can tell you pricing will be in the $2900 range + a shift indicator And that does not include a transmission. My biggest question right now is does it improve or contribute to the high RPM shifting issues TKOs inherently have? And they simply do not know the answer to that question yet. The system will not actuate the clutch, but does have memory in the shifter so that you can actually pre shift it and it will shift instantly next time the clutch is depressed. That sounds pretty cool!

[Steve Chryssos]

Awesome.

[Payton King]

just solved problems that I saw in this set-up. My wife's M3 has the SMG transmission, you hit the paddle and it works the clutch and shifts the car. Only problem is when street driving and you leave an intersection and are needing to make a turn at the same time, half way through the turn you need to shift. Hard to hunt down the paddle when the wheel is turned or turning, so you use the shifter on the console.

Ouch! on the $2900...but a cool product I would like to try. I would also be curious on the speed of the shifts.

[Ummgawa]

Hate to be the voice of dissention here, but, if you don't want to shift a Manual Shift car with a big motor, get the wife to drive for you or go automatic. I think the idea is cool if you could switch from paddle mode to shift it yourself, BUT, just full paddle mode all the time? C'mon dudes.

Spoken as a full on, love to shift gears, car guy. I've said it before and I'll say it again, If I could get a Golf Cart that had a 4 or 5 speed in it, I'd play golf all the time.

[Silver69Camaro]

I kinda agree. I think it's an awesome setup, and would be neat to try. But I would think it would take all the fun out of a manual. But again, I'd have to try it first.

[Stuart Adams]

3K:wow:

[LateNight72]

I highly doubt that this will deal with the TKO's inherent high RPM shifting problems.

With that being said, I would rather use Twist's Shrifter then this... Or if I really wanted to spend $5k on a tranny, I would pick up a Jerico...



JMO,
Todd

[californiacuda]

Twist Machine has paddle shifters for electronic automatics

[BRIAN]

Sounds like an expensive air shifter only cable operated. Wouldn't it be possible to rig a ignition interrupt and powershift without the clutch on all out runs. Not really a new idea and if you want a manual shift tranny that doesn't need a clutch.........Shrifter??

[XcYZ]

RaceLogic traction control has what they call shift help. It drops the motor to a user preset RPM when the clutch is pushed. From what they say, you can leave the pedal at WOT and shift. Pretty damn cool.

You need to have EFI that's fired sequentially use you the Racelogic. Such as BS3. Not that I have done any research on it or anything. ;)

[customcam]

here you go guys:

http://www.supercarsllc.com/index.html :thumbsup:

[andrewb70]

RaceLogic traction control has what they call shift help. It drops the motor to a user preset RPM when the clutch is pushed. From what they say, you can leave the pedal at WOT and shift. Pretty damn cool.

You need to have EFI that's fired sequentially use you the Racelogic. Such as BS3. Not that I have done any research on it or anything. ;)

You also need a dog ring box. Synchros will not handle that kind of abuse.

Andrew

[tyoneal]

Cool - like the e-gear in the Lamborghini.... that one pushes the clutch for you, this one would have to be the same I'm sure

I saw a good program onn the Lambo and it's Paddle Shifter. It certainly is cool. Upshifts at WOT, no problem. Down Shifts with Engine braking, piece of cake.

The transmission shifts immediately once the paddle is hit. No lag what so ever.

I like shifting like the next guy, but if a great paddle shifter would make me faster, or make me a better drive, screw it, they can have the floor shifter.

Pro-Touring is about Technology (ie Paddle Shifter). Nostalgia is about doing things the "old" or "original" way.

If a good Paddle shifter is available and you have the $$$ for it, and you don't want it because you prefer the technolgy of the last century, why do you update anything else on your car?

Go back to the Bias Ply Tires, crummy handling, and poor performance of the last century.

The Good old days regarding Technology, Aren't!!

Now the design features and the lines of the cars, well that's another thing. Who wants to drive a damn Jelly Bean.

tyoneal

[fesler]

Looks like it is corded?...That might get irritating...I do like the gear display in the hub though...

its only corded to the box then all electronic from there so nothing in the way

[fesler]

I saw a good program onn the Lambo and it's Paddle Shifter. It certainly is cool. Upshifts at WOT, no problem. Down Shifts with Engine braking, piece of cake.

The transmission shifts immediately once the paddle is hit. No lag what so ever.

I like shifting like the next guy, but if a great paddle shifter would make me faster, or make me a better drive, screw it, they can have the floor shifter.

Pro-Touring is about Technology (ie Paddle Shifter). Nostalgia is about doing things the "old" or "original" way.

If a good Paddle shifter is available and you have the $$$ for it, and you don't want it because you prefer the technolgy of the last century, why do you update anything else on your car?

Go back to the Bias Ply Tires, crummy handling, and poor performance of the last century.

The Good old days regarding Technology, Aren't!!

Now the design features and the lines of the cars, well that's another thing. Who wants to drive a damn Jelly Bean.

tyoneal

They say that you could never shift as fast as the unit will shift, they are doing video test on it now to prove this and will have it out soon. It is the coolest up grade for the fact that most people will see the clutch and no stick and wont understand it. Like you said new technology is what these cars are all about and this should be hot.

[californiacuda]

bump to tyoneal

[speedshopmike]

not to be a dissenter, but tremecs shift real nicely at high rpm if they're set up properly.
one of my former employees who i sponsor sees 7000 plus every upshift, no issues powershifted or not.
on fourth season same tranny, no service done.

[Steve1968LS2]

To me it's about the fun of driving and the interaction between man and machine. I've always found that it's more fun to work a stick and push a clutch. It's more viceral, more involved and hence more fun in my my case.

However, if I had an auto I would want to paddle shift it since that is more involved than the alternative.

[DRJDVM's '69]

My opinion...cool but kinda stupid....

Whats the point if you still have to push the clutch in ?? The "memory feature" sounds kinda cool but.....

So you depress the clutch and then push a button to shift rather than move a lever ?? big deal.....

Paddle shifter for an automatic is one thing, but this sounds like alotta cash for a pointless piece of technology.

[chicane]

3K:wow:

Like that scares you....... :lol:

[71Nova]

My opinion...cool but kinda stupid....

Whats the point if you still have to push the clutch in ?? The "memory feature" sounds kinda cool but.....

So you depress the clutch and then push a button to shift rather than move a lever ?? big deal.....

Paddle shifter for an automatic is one thing, but this sounds like alotta cash for a pointless piece of technology.

I agree. It seems like paddle shifters would be a sweet setup with an auto tranny, but not a manual that still has a manual clutch. Not only does it seem pointless but it costs more than I spent on my entire t-56 setup. It might be cool of you could still shift manually if you wanted to, but you can't. It replaces the shifter. I would not want it even if it only cost $800.

[jannes_z-28]

I agree too,

To have a paddle or button shifter it has to interact with the PCM and clutch to be usefull. Otherwise it is just a gadget. The benefit to use it came from F1 and their reason was to save on time when powering the tires, pressing the clutch looses driving power. Also a reason why the Lenco transmission was used in dragracing. When it was allowed in Pro Stocks it cut 0.4 seconds of the ET.

I have been driving a Mercedes SLK 55 AMG with paddleshifter and it was a joy :D That car don't have a clutch, I guess it is some kind of automatic but it shifts like a manual when driven hard.

Just my opinion.


Jan

[kennyd]

I just talked to the company that makes this unit , we are trying to get one also.
they might get us a " test " unit for our camaro project .