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mazspeed
11-23-2006, 02:24 PM
I have a silly question to ask. I have my TKO-600 but I want to use DSE's T56 Crossmember to add strength to the car. Crossmember (http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/indproduct/bodyprod/trans_xmember_prod.htm)
What do you guys think? I was debating a cage but the guys at CARR think that I should go without one and use this to help beef up the chassis a bit. I agree that I don't really want a cage as the interior is really first rate and I don't want to disturb that, but Ill be running over 600hp and want to stiffen things up as I will be running the car hard at times. What do you guys think?
I'm going to ask this in the camaro forum as well as it's pretty camaro specific.
mazspeed
11-27-2006, 11:36 AM
No one has a clue? How long should it take to put one of these in? Anyone?
camcojb
11-27-2006, 11:50 AM
No one has a clue? How long should it take to put one of these in? Anyone?

I think Pascual put one in Jonny's car, so you might want to talk to him. I think this plus the DSE weld through floor SFC's do quite a bit to add stiffness.

Jody
jonny51
11-27-2006, 05:10 PM
Yeah I have one.With that ,SFC's and a cage the car is very solid.It is expensive but it is great for those cars.
Steve1968LS2
11-27-2006, 05:20 PM
That piece is NICE.. I would have love to run it on my car, but I didn't know it existed until I was past that point.

How many hours to fab in?
mazspeed
11-27-2006, 06:00 PM
Yeah it's $725 for a fabed up piece of metal :wow:
I'm thinking of going with it since we are putting more power to the car, and after driving it 500 miles I figured I wanted a bit more strength. I'm not sure on the fab time, but I would love to do it myself if CARR let me :unibrow:
I would only think a few hours tops to put in the brace but I don't know. Jonny, do you know how long it took Pascual to do it?
JamesJ
11-27-2006, 09:55 PM
I would not be surprised if it was a 5+ hour job, cut out the metal and then weld both sides in car and both sides under the car!
Boulder69
11-27-2006, 10:45 PM
I can't remember where I saw the install (maybe DSE's site?), but it seemed somewhat involved to tie it all in to the floor, rockers, etc.

Imagine the DSE piece and SFCs along with the Lateral D. rear piece for their 3-link. Talk about a stiffie. :thumbsup:
mazspeed
11-27-2006, 11:01 PM
Wow 5 hours? I must be thinking it's quicker then I thought. I'm sure it must be more involved then what I was thinking. Id still like to see if others have put it in and the time it took and if it was worth it to do it.
awr68
11-27-2006, 11:28 PM
All I can say is welding sheet metal takes time!! Oh and yeah that's a nice piece!!
Bowtieracing
11-28-2006, 02:26 AM
All I can say is welding sheet metal takes time!! Oh and yeah that's a nice piece!!

Yes you are right! But still expensive piece of tubing.
jonny51
11-28-2006, 08:24 AM
Mike,I will find out how long the install took.
mazspeed
11-28-2006, 11:44 AM
Mike,I will find out how long the install took.
Thanks Jonny. Much appreciated. :thumbsup:
Boulder69
11-28-2006, 04:46 PM
Couple of shots here:

http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectpages/jasonstavola/jstavola_main.htm
mazspeed
11-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Thanks guys for all the help. It's been ordered.
Silver69Camaro
11-30-2006, 07:10 AM
Keep in mind that that piece is certainly no replacement for a set of SFC or a cage. It's addition to stiffness is relatevely minor compared to those components.
jonny51
11-30-2006, 08:51 PM
Mike, I talked to Pascual today and here is what he said.
It should take about 5 to 6 hours on a gutted car.A completed car would take quite a bit more time.I hope this helps you.
mazspeed
11-30-2006, 09:04 PM
Mike, I talked to Pascual today and here is what he said.
It should take about 5 to 6 hours on a gutted car.A completed car would take quite a bit more time.I hope this helps you.
Cool Jonny thanks. The car is completely gutted right now. No interior no engine, no tranny no nothing. :D
Mean 69
11-30-2006, 09:29 PM
The car is completely gutted right now. No interior no engine, no tranny no nothing.

Well then!!! Perfect time for a, uh, well, "different" approach on the rear suspension.... :cool:

M
Steve1968LS2
11-30-2006, 09:39 PM
Well then!!! Perfect time for a, uh, well, "different" approach on the rear suspension.... :cool:

M

And let me tell you.. his "different" approach is very very nice...

Hey Mark.. you owe me an "oil tank" email buddy!! :yes:
mazspeed
11-30-2006, 09:54 PM
Well then!!! Perfect time for a, uh, well, "different" approach on the rear suspension.... :cool:

M
Which approach is this?

Did you call me yesterday?
Rick Dorion
12-01-2006, 07:18 AM
I did this with an S&W cross member
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/rdorion/KgnHotrod5.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/rdorion/KgnHotrod8.jpg
jonny51
12-01-2006, 07:50 AM
Which approach is this?

Did you call me yesterday?

I think it is his three link approach.
mazspeed
12-01-2006, 02:51 PM
I think it is his three link approach.
Yep that was him that called. Had a great conversation with him. Hell of a nice guy. I want his 3 link.
Mean 69
12-08-2006, 10:58 AM
Your 3-Link is but a phone call away.... I agree, great conversation, one heck of a nice car. Man I love this hobby!

Cheers,
M