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Bowtieracing
11-12-2006, 10:44 AM
From time to time we see here beautifull stainless pluming as in 1984 Camaros car
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=4183

What tools exactlly pros really use ? And wich tool can make the double flare on brakelines ? Please real names and partnumbes :yes:

Mike Hall
11-12-2006, 11:02 AM
Ridged tube bender and Flare kit should do the trick. Never had another flare tool work as well as the ridged unit. Even the little tub cutter that comes with the kit seems to hold up well.

Mike

race-rodz
11-12-2006, 12:23 PM
just remember that all "AN" fittings use a 37* single flare instead of the 45* double flare used on steel type brake lines.

for "normal" size lines (3/16-3/8) i use a bender i got off the SNAP-ON truck years ago, for "big" lines (1/2, 5/8, 3/4) i made my own dies out of round stock, kinda like a mini JD2 bender die.

for flaring i have a hydraulic flaring tool that i re-cut the cone and seats to 37*

3kidsnotime
11-12-2006, 12:31 PM
Here is the place to get your tool, Gary at Pure Choice www.performanceplumbing.com look under tools on his site or call him at 928-505-8355 you can also get your fittings and tube from him. Good Luck :thumbsup:

chicane
11-12-2006, 03:07 PM
Swagelok makes the schnizzy tubing tools.... but there stuff can get a little expensive for most out there. Definately worth every penny tho.....

As for an actual flairing tool, nothing comes close to this:

http://www.essexparts.com/CatalogPDF/Essex_120~Tools.pdf

Autokraft
11-12-2006, 04:16 PM
Swagelok makes the schnizzy tubing tools.... but there stuff can get a little expensive for most out there. Definately worth every penny tho.....

As for an actual flairing tool, nothing comes close to this:

http://www.essexparts.com/CatalogPDF/Essex_120~Tools.pdf


Thats the one we use, it works sweet. I highly recommend that one. Classic tube sells these also.


Kurt





www.autokraft.org

3kidsnotime
11-12-2006, 05:52 PM
Swagelok makes the schnizzy tubing tools.... but there stuff can get a little expensive for most out there. Definately worth every penny tho.....

As for an actual flairing tool, nothing comes close to this:

http://www.essexparts.com/CatalogPDF/Essex_120~Tools.pdf

He is doing fuel lines from his post, I have a swagelok and it does not do 37* it is older unit but mine wont cut it for fuel lines :rolleyes:

chicane
11-12-2006, 06:30 PM
He is doing fuel lines from his post, I have a swagelok and it does not do 37* it is older unit but mine wont cut it for fuel lines :rolleyes:

Looks like the fuel lines are done !?!! I dunno.... I read 'brake application' from his post. The newer Swagelok stuff does standard AN, 37* JIC, buffalo and Swagelok compression fittings.... which actually makes their stuff worth the price now-a-days. :yes:

3kidsnotime
11-12-2006, 07:59 PM
Looks like the fuel lines are done !?!! I dunno.... I read 'brake application' from his post. The newer Swagelok stuff does standard AN, 37* JIC, buffalo and Swagelok compression fittings.... which actually makes their stuff worth the price now-a-days. :yes:
That was a pic of another members car and plumbing, wanting to know the tools to do it, If the new swagelok tool does it all it is the way to go for sure I have 5 tools to do the diffrent functions needed. He is showing fuel system but the question is brake lines in his post two very diffrent tasks... :thumbsup:

chicane
11-12-2006, 08:52 PM
Yup... I kinda tripped on that one.. :willy:

Bowtieracing
11-13-2006, 02:45 PM
Hello !!

Thanks to all your replys.

That was a pic of another members car and plumbing, wanting to know the tools to do it, If the new swagelok tool does it all it is the way to go for sure I have 5 tools to do the diffrent functions needed. He is showing fuel system but the question is brake lines in his post two very diffrent tasks... :thumbsup:

Yes you are right! I have my current project done and plummed. I had a hard time enough for modifing stainless brake line kit to fit my C4 brakes at in my next project i really need tools wich definitely work with ss tubing. And that picture wasnt from my car. I wish it was, i would not need to ask my questions.

Having tool wich will handle both metric and "standard" would be best for me.

So do all think this one would work with brakelines http://www.performanceplumbing.com/images/hydroflarkit2_Large.jpg ??

As Kurt and Chicane recomended essexparts tool would it be better ?

Would this be good for flaring 37s for an lines http://www.performanceplumbing.com/37FlaringTool.jpg ?

Okay how about bending stainless tubing? More like AN lines sizes 6-8-10 ?

Thanks !!

3kidsnotime
11-13-2006, 03:32 PM
Gary has some nice benders as well, I use alot of 1/2 ss and the one i got from him is qite nice holds a great radius with out kinking.

BThibodeaux
11-13-2006, 05:13 PM
Hello !!

Thanks to all your replys.



Yes you are right! I have my current project done and plummed. I had a hard time enough for modifing stainless brake line kit to fit my C4 brakes at in my next project i really need tools wich definitely work with ss tubing. And that picture wasnt from my car. I wish it was, i would not need to ask my questions.

Having tool wich will handle both metric and "standard" would be best for me.

So do all think this one would work with brakelines http://www.performanceplumbing.com/images/hydroflarkit2_Large.jpg ??

As Kurt and Chicane recomended essexparts tool would it be better ?

Would this be good for flaring 37s for an lines http://www.performanceplumbing.com/37FlaringTool.jpg ?

Okay how about bending stainless tubing? More like AN lines sizes 6-8-10 ?

Thanks !!

The kit you show for the AN lines should be fine. Single 37 degree flares are not a problem. What you neeed to confirm about any brake line kit you are considering, is whether it is rated to handle double flares with stainless tubing. Stainless lines are much harder than plain mild steel lines. I have broken a few tools trying to double flare stainless. Good luck.

race-rodz
11-13-2006, 10:04 PM
So do all think this one would work with brakelines http://www.performanceplumbing.com/images/hydroflarkit2_Large.jpg ??




this is the hydro flare tool i have, i ordered an extra cone and 3/16" female die set, then remachined them to a 37* flare specifically for doing stailess line with AN fittings. for larger AN fitting on alum fuel line...i use a regualr ole manual 37* flaring tool

the tool also works great on mild steel brake lines doing double flares, and the "bubble" flares have actually come in handy a couple times.

jeff s
11-13-2006, 11:02 PM
For lines shown in the first post I use a 37 deg single flaring tool I got from Summit.
Stainless brake lines are a whole other story...
I like the look of that Essex tool. Might have to get me one of those.

ProdigyCustoms
11-14-2006, 06:56 AM
Aeroquip had some killer looking benders on display at SEMA

Bowtieracing
11-15-2006, 02:56 PM
this is the hydro flare tool i have, i ordered an extra cone and 3/16" female die set, then remachined them to a 37* flare specifically for doing stailess line with AN fittings. for larger AN fitting on alum fuel line...i use a regualr ole manual 37* flaring tool

the tool also works great on mild steel brake lines doing double flares, and the "bubble" flares have actually come in handy a couple times.

Thanks! That is good tip!!

Aeroquip had some killer looking benders on display at SEMA

Sounds intresting.Ill try to find more info. :thumbsup:

Bowtieracing
11-15-2006, 03:00 PM
Aeroquip had some killer looking benders on display at SEMA

Hmm no help from google.. :( Did you took any pics?