Twin turbo LS2 intake showed up today

[camcojb]

Manifold just showed up for my twin turbo LS2. The headers are Nelson Racings new LSX setup; there's a second piece to hold the turbos and wastegate which I have not fitted yet. Towed the car to the stripper today also, so things are progressing.


http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20078.jpg

http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20080.jpg

Jody

[Stuart Adams]

Wow. That looks awesome. What an intake. New name for the car "Bad Attitude."

Exciting stuff, she will be beautiful.

[71Nova]

Thats Fing sick!

[Rybar]

Looks sick Jody :eek: are you running ETP heads? If so which ones? How did you measure pushrod length and are your rockers stock? I just took delivery of my 215's :D

[Van B]

Manifold just showed up for my twin turbo LS2. The headers are Nelson Racings new LSX setup; there's a second piece to hold the turbos and wastegate which I have not fitted yet. Towed the car to the stripper today also, so things are progressing.


http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20078.jpg

http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20080.jpg

Jody

Stripper? Is this Malitude we are talking about? It can't need paint already.

[907rs]

Cool beans, Jody. Are you having them coated, or leaving them raw?

[lt1 chevelle]

is that motor for the 64 chevelle? and when u said took the car to the stripper are u also talking about the 64? if so why.or am i just not in the loop and u are building another car?

[camcojb]

Stripper? Is this Malitude we are talking about? It can't need paint already.

Unfortunately it does. Suffice it to say the guys who painted it for Mark and said they stripped the car did not and that has created some issues. I can see the previous red paint job from when Charley had the car.

Jody

[camcojb]

is that motor for the 64 chevelle? and when u said took the car to the stripper are u also talking about the 64? if so why.or am i just not in the loop and u are building another car?

This 402 LS2 is going in Malitude. Yes, Malitude is being stripped for a new owner-applied paint job.

[slownova]

will that fit under the stock hood? going to keep it red? looks aweosme.

[camcojb]

Looks sick Jody :eek: are you running ETP heads? If so which ones? How did you measure pushrod length and are your rockers stock? I just took delivery of my 215's :D

These are the ETP 11 degree 240's. The LS2 is a 402 cid build. Rockers are stock and an adjustable pushrod figures the proper length with 3/4 turn beyond "0" lash, as recommended by Wheel to Wheel.

Jody

[camcojb]

Cool beans, Jody. Are you having them coated, or leaving them raw?

I'm leaving them raw Bill; I haven't seen any coating stay nice on turbo headers.

Jody

[XcYZ]

We are so going to beat the crap out of that on the Power Tour! :D

[camcojb]

will that fit under the stock hood? going to keep it red? looks aweosme.

Will clear the stock hood, but not staying red.:unibrow:

Jody

[camcojb]

We are so going to beat the crap out of that on the Power Tour! :D

Yep, should be a blast.

Jody

[XcYZ]

How about I let you run and MiniDV while I drive the Malitude? :D :_paranoid :lol:

Seriously though, I can't wait to ride shotgun in that thing. :thumbsup:

[4mm]

Wow, extremely impressed with the speed at which you work :cool:

I am pretty sure you're glad the way things worked out, i.e., staying with the engine.

Are you painting it black?

[jeff hanson]

Looks awesome! After sema, it's almost like twin turbo or go home. I think every car had friggin twin turbo's for god's sake! That thing should be a ball. Good luck.

[XcYZ]

After sema, it's almost like twin turbo or go home.

Jeff, you have an LS7. No turbos needed. :bow:

[camcojb]

Wow, extremely impressed with the speed at which you work :cool:

I am pretty sure you're glad the way things worked out, i.e., staying with the engine.

Are you painting it black?

Yeah, I owe 'ya on that one! :thumbsup:

Jody

[awr68]

SEXY!!!!! :thumbsup:

[71Nova]

I did not realise that car is Malitude. I thought it looked just like it but did not know it was the same car. That is stinken cool. I thought Charlie probrobly owned it.

[clill]

You keep doinking around and it won't be ready for Power Tour...You have about 26 weeks......

[jonny51]

You just can't leave anything alone huh?

[Diognes56]

That is awsome :yes: .

David

[camcojb]

You keep doinking around and it won't be ready for Power Tour...You have about 26 weeks......

Getting personal now, huh???!!!!!!!:lolhit:

[KHShapiro]

did W2W suggest that intake? tall runners you have there, did you get any flow data on the intake?
Looks great!
Grudge match in the future? :D

[XcYZ]

Getting personal now, huh???!!!!!!!:lolhit:

I wonder what car Charley is taking on the HRPT? :D

[camcojb]

did W2W suggest that intake? tall runners you have there, did you get any flow data on the intake?
Looks great!
Grudge match in the future? :D

No, that was my decision. Being it's forced induction I can't imagine it can't outflow the stock LS2 setup, which is known to be restrictive.

Grudge race? I don't think so! :eek: Mines just a heavy street car. :(

Jody

[camcojb]

I wonder what car Charley is taking on the HRPT? :D

Exactly. He's giving me crap and he doesn't even have a car to take! :wow: Well, at least not the one he says he's going to take! Better get cracking on your own projects there buddy. :D

Jody

[lt1 chevelle]

what color are u planning to paint the car?

[Stuart Adams]

Exactly. He's giving me crap and he doesn't even have a car to take! :wow: Well, at least not the one he says he's going to take! Better get cracking on your own projects there buddy. :D

Jody


Yeah, get that witch out of hibernation!

[KHShapiro]

i would be interested to see if you have any numbers on your intake. With those runners it looks like it should be a monster up top, the only bad thing about the intake is if you are going to be pushing alot of air , with the TB up front it tends to force more air into the rear cyls.
what turbos are you going with and what was the deciding factor in you going for twins? Who is building the system for you incase i missed it in this or another thread.
once again very nice build :thumbsup:

[camcojb]

i would be interested to see if you have any numbers on your intake. With those runners it looks like it should be a monster up top, the only bad thing about the intake is if you are going to be pushing alot of air , with the TB up front it tends to force more air into the rear cyls.
what turbos are you going with and what was the deciding factor in you going for twins? Who is building the system for you incase i missed it in this or another thread.
once again very nice build :thumbsup:

I will respectfully disagree on the airflow deal. Under pressure that just can't happen. At least that's what a couple of EFI engineers have told me (both have a strong thermodynamics background). Say it's a common misconception. With the manifold under pressure the pressure is the same at any port, the rears would not have more.

I'm running twin ball bearing liquid cooled T67's from Precision. The decision for twins was mostly lag time; I know a big single can make huge power, but it comes at a price. I am not going to run a super loose converter so twins was the direction I was going. The headers are from Nelson Racing, and the rest of the plumbing will be done here.

Jody

[camcojb]

what color are u planning to paint the car?

Not really sharing that much yet, but it's an old school grandma car type of color. :eek: :wow:

[Jr]

Jody,
Are you using a automatic? If so, what kind of automatic(4l80e, th400,or 4l60e), and what kind of torque converter are you going to run.

The headers look really nice :faint:

[camcojb]

Jody,
Are you using a automatic? If so, what kind of automatic(4l80e, th400,or 4l60e), and what kind of torque converter are you going to run.

The headers look really nice :faint:

It's a 4L80E with a Shrifter. I would have to guess on the converter, came with the car. Pretty mild, maybe 2800 stall or so, and it's a lockup.

[Blown353]

Not really sharing that much yet, but it's an old school grandma car type of color. :eek: :wow:

I have "the scoop" on the car and the direction it's headed in-- it will be a LOT of fun. :unibrow:

And no, I won't divulge the info. I can't wait to see the reaction to the finished product and I don't want that spoiled... and I'm sure neither does Jody.

[907rs]

I have "the scoop" on the car and the direction it's headed in-- it will be a LOT of fun. :unibrow:

And no, I won't divulge the info. I can't wait to see the reaction to the finished product and I don't want that spoiled... and I'm sure neither does Jody.

Me too. :unibrow:

Troy, it was nice meeting you and watching you guys pilot that "streetcar" around Thunderhill. :thumbsup:

[Blown353]

Me too. :unibrow:

Troy, it was nice meeting you and watching you guys pilot that "streetcar" around Thunderhill. :thumbsup:

Good meeting you too!

That Mustang meets the definition of streetcar in that it has seen duty on public roads numerous times... law enforcement just wasn't there to tell us otherwise. They sometimes show up at the shop after street "test sessions" though. :P

[quadfather]

i love the way they put the fuel rails on the inside of the runner, it really cleans up the intake. sweet idea! :thumbsup:

[camcojb]

i love the way they put the fuel rails on the inside of the runner, it really cleans up the intake. sweet idea! :thumbsup:

yes, that was at my request. I think it looks good that way. I'll likely have the rails and valley cover done in black to hide it a bit more.

Jody

[Stuart Adams]

Just took another look at that intake - Wow that is awesome. You da man Jody.

[camcojb]

Just took another look at that intake - Wow that is awesome. You da man Jody.

Thanks Stuart, much appreciated. It isn't a build on your level, but should be a cool street car.

Jody

[trapin]

A twin turbo LS2??!! Damn, Jody...that thing is going to be hell unleashed. :hail:

I could stare at that intake all day. Nothing makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up more than fabricated aluminum parts. Awesome. :thumbsup:

[camcojb]

A twin turbo LS2??!! Damn, Jody...that thing is going to be hell unleashed. :hail:

I could stare at that intake all day. Nothing makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up more than fabricated aluminum parts. Awesome. :thumbsup:

Thanks Tony! :thumbsup: I'll see you in August!

Jody

[Stuart Adams]

Thanks Stuart, much appreciated. It isn't a build on your level, but should be a cool street car.

Jody

Don't sell yourself short. Should be a very cool car, I can't wait to hear the stories about you pulling the sleeper card on some cocky dudes.

[camcojb]

Don't sell yourself short. Should be a very cool car, I can't wait to hear the stories about you pulling the sleeper card on some cocky dudes.

Oh, I know it isn't going to be a piece of garbage, but I'm keeping it pretty simple (at least for now). Yours is going to be very cool.

Jody

[Ummgawa]

I, like others here, anxiously await your finished product. I know it is going to be fully wicked and fully bad. That motor is just the beginning. Way to cool, Jody.

[clill]

Exactly. He's giving me crap and he doesn't even have a car to take! :wow: Well, at least not the one he says he's going to take! Better get cracking on your own projects there buddy. :D

Jody


If it was here I would be cracking on it......

[clill]

I think I had a 35-3800 stall convertor put in it when we redid the engine. Kurt can confirm.

[Blown353]

If it was here I would be cracking on it......

I really want to see the Segway with a "POWER TOUR 2007" sticker on it.

How many times do you think you'd have to stop along the way for recharging?

[XcYZ]

I really want to see the Segway with a "POWER TOUR 2007" sticker on it.


Wasn't there some sort of recall on those things?

[Blown353]

Wasn't there some sort of recall on those things?

Yeah, there have been a few software updates for them. One was for when the batteries went low they had a chance of faceplanting you into the ground. Explains a lot about a certain Mr. Lillard. :P

[Stuart Adams]

Speaking of PT, when are the dates? Nevermind just googled it.

[Blown353]

Speaking of PT, when are the dates?

Being limited to 12mph or so on the Segway, Charley should probably start sometime before the end of the year.

For everyone else, it's June 2-9.

[camcojb]

Speaking of PT, when are the dates? Nevermind just googled it.

You need to pick up a project and go Stuart. Seriously! :yes:

Jody

[XcYZ]

You need to pick up a project and go Stuart. Seriously! :yes:

I'll 2nd that. :captain:

[Speedster]

Awesome intake Jody. Can't beat those sheet metal intakes. Especially liked the way you ran the lines inside. I am sure more than a few people will be surprised by that beast when you mash the pedal...

[XcYZ]

Have you taken the plenum cover off? Curious about how much work they did to the radius area of the plenum to runner area.

[Stuart Adams]

I'll 2nd that. :captain:

Does sound kinda fun. Finding a project is kinda hard.

[Bill Howell]

You keep doinking around and it won't be ready for Power Tour...You have about 26 weeks......

Doinking???????????????

Must be a new word from the land of Fruits and Nuts?
Kinda like dillydallying around? :rofl:

Looks good Jody, I just love those Hogan intakes. I can not wait to see Malitude in its new glory in June. :thumbsup:

[Bill Howell]

Does sound kinda fun. Finding a project is kinda hard.

Especially when you want to redo every frickin piece once you buy it. :lol:
You should just buy a new Z06 and pick it up at the start of PT, then drive it on home from St. Louis. :thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

Especially when you want to redo every frickin piece once you buy it. :lol:
You should just buy a new Z06 and pick it up at the start of PT, then drive it on home from St. Louis. :thumbsup:

Would they let me in with an E55? :eek:

[Bill Howell]

Of course. Last year Vintage Racer had his Limo in our group. It was a favorite every night when we all wanted to go to "supper" together. I may just ride with him next year.

[Stuart Adams]

Supper, what is that.. :D

[KHShapiro]

hope you dont mind the questions.
How many egts are you planning on? 1,2 or 8? i didnt notice and bungs on the exhaust manifold pictured.
Whos controller are you using?
And if you dont already have injectors i can you in contact with the person i got my matched 96's from,they cost me 330 shipped, new.

[fatlife]

Manifold just showed up for my twin turbo LS2. The headers are Nelson Racings new LSX setup; there's a second piece to hold the turbos and wastegate which I have not fitted yet. Towed the car to the stripper today also, so things are progressing.


http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20078.jpg

http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20080.jpg

Jody

I can't imagine what you've been sticking in that throttle body, and don't you think the deposits you left are gonna hurt the airflow? :_paranoid

[camcojb]

hope you dont mind the questions.
How many egts are you planning on? 1,2 or 8? i didnt notice and bungs on the exhaust manifold pictured.
Whos controller are you using?
And if you dont already have injectors i can you in contact with the person i got my matched 96's from,they cost me 330 shipped, new.

No EGT's. I have a dual-wideband Big Stuff 3. I ran 95's on my Procharged 540, but putting the rails under the plenum also requires me to use a short injector. So far a 65 (@ 43 psi) injector is the biggest I can get. Since I'm doing a deadhead system I'm bumping the pressure to 55-60 psi. We'll see what happens. Bigger injectors are being worked on in the short LS7 length.

Jody

[camcojb]

I can't imagine what you've been sticking in that throttle body, and don't you think the deposits you left are gonna hurt the airflow? :_paranoid


smartass! :D

Jody

[KHShapiro]

my injectors are close to 2 3/4 how much smaller do you need?
Does the BS3 have the capability to run multi egts? i havent looked into that aspect of them yet.

[camcojb]

my injectors are close to 2 3/4 how much smaller do you need?
Does the BS3 have the capability to run multi egts? i havent looked into that aspect of them yet.

The LS7 injector is about 2" long. Don't think it can run EGT's.

Jody

[fatlife]

My injector is about 2" long. Don't think it can run EGT's.

Jody
Dang I guess I can put my worries about the throttle body doinking to rest :rofl:

okay I'm leaving :P

[Bowtieracing]

Can you Jody post more picks of those Nelson manifolds. Look really really really good!!!

[Stuart Adams]

Called Hogan's today to see if they would make an oil tank for the LS7 and they said they just stick with manifolds - bummer, cool looking stuff.

[fatlife]

try ron davis, but you don't need a dry sump to go to Sema ;)

[camcojb]

Called Hogan's today to see if they would make an oil tank for the LS7 and they said they just stick with manifolds - bummer, cool looking stuff.

Stuart,

Tyler (ATS) has the info on what Mark used on his. The round shape and height is critical. There is a new squared tank but both Mark and Tony have suggested that they could not make that shape work. If it does not work you'll lose the engine.

[Stuart Adams]

Yeah I knew the square tank was out, I was hoping Hogan would make one. Hogan's suggested Billett Fabrication is Simi Valley, anybody heard?

[jonny51]

Yeah I knew the square tank was out, I was hoping Hogan would make one. Hogan's suggested Billett Fabrication is Simi Valley, anybody heard?

Yep,very nice stuff.Although they never returned my phone calls,even after getting all my info.

www.Billetfab.com

[Stuart Adams]

They don't make them either, Patterson Enterprises is where they referred me to - they specialize in dry sump tanks. We'll see.

[camcojb]

Have you taken the plenum cover off? Curious about how much work they did to the radius area of the plenum to runner area.

http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20081.jpg

http://www.camcojb.com/malitude%20082.jpg

[fatlife]

Damn, you really get what you pay for, looks great!

[Autokraft]

Damn Jody, I hope you ordered an extra one for the living room table. That is sweet!!

Kurt

[camcojb]

Damn Jody, I hope you ordered an extra one for the living room table. That is sweet!!

Kurt

I thought about it Kurt! ;) Naw, my budget is pretty much shot at this point, fortunately I have most everything I'll need to finish it, at least as far as the expensive stuff goes.

Jody

[Ricochet]

Good lord...Been offline just today & 9 pages on this thread already. Sucks to be popular, huh Jody!! LOL!!

Looks killer Jody. Can't wait to see the whole package. How about some sheet metal valve covers & hide the coils inside? The inside rails look so slick. Wish mine had them!

By the way,...No thanks to you, I'm looking at other avenues on making MORE HP. We'll I can't totally blame you - but I had to throw your hat in! :D

Brent

[LVCamaro]

absolutely awesome, Jody!

[camcojb]

absolutely awesome, Jody!

Thanks Steve. :thumbsup:

Jody

[camcojb]

Good lord...Been offline just today & 9 pages on this thread already. Sucks to be popular, huh Jody!! LOL!!

Looks killer Jody. Can't wait to see the whole package. How about some sheet metal valve covers & hide the coils inside? The inside rails look so slick. Wish mine had them!

By the way,...No thanks to you, I'm looking at other avenues on making MORE HP. We'll I can't totally blame you - but I had to throw your hat in! :D

Brent



you know me........................... :morepower

Jody

[Steve68]

Mine names Jody, and I'm a horse power junky!

[fatlife]

Jody, I don't know if it has already been posted but can you give us a run down of the motor/turbos specs? I'd love to hear what kind of motor this killer intake/turbo setup this is going on. What kind of numbers are you shooting for?

[camcojb]

Jody, I don't know if it has already been posted but can you give us a run down of the motor/turbos specs? I'd love to hear what kind of motor this killer intake/turbo setup this is going on. What kind of numbers are you shooting for?

402 LS2. 11 degree 240CC ET Performance Heads. Turbo grind hydraulic roller from W2W with Morel lifters. Twin liquid-cooled T67 Precision turbos.

Shooting for 1100-1200 on race gas and 750-800 normally. I am also using a Racelogic traction control. If it works as advertised I'll keep the power and boost up, if not I'll back it down a lot.

Jody

[fatlife]

Cool, for as long as I have known you, you have always been into high horsepower machines, its not just a "phase" for you :thumbsup: Can't wait to see this one, its been awhile since you had a real musclecar huh?

[camcojb]

Cool, for as long as I have known you, you have always been into high horsepower machines, its not just a "phase" for you :thumbsup: Can't wait to see this one, its been awhile since you had a real musclecar huh?

As you know a ton of power means nothing if it can't hook. This traction control is supposed to solve that issue and is used in a ton of high power turbo cars.

If it works, then you can have good traction on launch and out of corners with a hellish top end charge.

I sold the twin turbo 69 (unfinished) in 2005, so it's been back to the yellow car since I've had a completed older car. The Lightning I did ran 11.20's on the street tune, so it was a 10 second ride on race gas, but nothing like these older muscle cars. Also did a twin turbo 05 GTO which is where my 402 LS2 came from, cool car.

Jody

[Blown353]

Jody, you're also going to be running a vehicle speed / gear based boost controller, right? That alone will be a big help.

[camcojb]

Jody, you're also going to be running a vehicle speed / gear based boost controller, right? That alone will be a big help.

That is the plan, but I'm going to see how this Racelogic system works first.

[fatlife]

Man if you can get 8-1200 hp to hook that will be one insane ride, especially if it is in the PT style, hopefully it turns just as well

[Blown353]

That is the plan, but I'm going to see how this Racelogic system works first.

Me too, very interested in that, but if you can make the Racelogic controller work "less" by running only as much boost as the tires can handle (or a bit more) at a given speed then it might run faster as the racelogic box won't be cutting timing/injectors as much.

With the racelogic box using timing retard as the initial "power cut" you might seriously want to consider adding EGT probes in the headers, at least one in each collector, because when the traction control cuts the timing things are going to get REALLY hot in a big hurry.

Hogan's does nice work. If it wasn't so "trade secret" I'd take some internal pictures of the HRE & Hogan's manifolds on my friends Pro-Stock Hemi's... trick stuff. There's a reason the intakes are covered in thin sheet metal in the pits. :unibrow:

[camcojb]

Me too, very interested in that, but if you can make the Racelogic controller work "less" by running only as much boost as the tires can handle (or a bit more) at a given speed then it might run faster as the racelogic box won't be cutting timing/injectors as much.

With the racelogic box using timing retard as the initial "power cut" you might seriously want to consider adding EGT probes in the headers, at least one in each collector, because when the traction control cuts the timing things are going to get REALLY hot in a big hurry.



As I understand it doesn't retard timing, it cuts the spark completely. Does the same with the injector so it doesn't go lean.

Jody

[LVCamaro]

My name's Jody, and I'm a horse power junky!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

truer words have never been spoken!! :rofl:

[camcojb]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

truer words have never been spoken!! :rofl:


Yeah Steve, pot....kettle....black! :unibrow:

Jody

[Y-TRY]

Looking good, man. I like that you are going with V-band exhaust flanges on the turbos, pretty sweet.