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KAA
10-12-2006, 09:06 PM
Next time someone wants to know what heel and toe is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFohssyZ2mo

tyoneal
10-13-2006, 12:42 AM
Next time someone wants to know what heel and toe is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFohssyZ2mo


Very Cool!

Is he having to rev. match the gearbox to complete clean shifts up or down?

Is this for a straight cut box?

tyoneal

mazspeed
10-19-2006, 12:35 AM
That's a great video to watch as it goes though the motions. It's also very hard to explain to someone how to do it, and this video shows you.

clill
10-19-2006, 07:45 AM
Ty...He is doing it when he downshifts in order to raise RPM's but all the while he has the brakes on, keeping the suspension loaded where it is. If he had just downshifted without the throttle blip it would have unloaded the suspension. I'm sure others can explain it better.

clill
10-20-2006, 06:34 PM
Scott you really need to save that video to this site and keep it as a sticky somewhere.....

camcojb
10-20-2006, 07:58 PM
Scott you really need to save that video to this site and keep it as a sticky somewhere.....

You are way too needy Charley! :D

Jody

clill
10-20-2006, 11:29 PM
I really needy to get good at heel-toe

KAA
10-21-2006, 08:51 AM
If I wanted to do it like he did in the video, I'd need to strap a chunk of 2x4 to my heel in order to reach my gas pedal. :( But, I heel & toe in my daily driver all the time.

fatlife
10-21-2006, 11:04 AM
what we need is for someone to make a revised brake pedal that is closer to the gas pedal, I was thinking of taking the stock one cutting it, and offsetting it to the side closer to the gas pedal, but to be honest I don't trust myself hacking on something like the brake pedal. If someone could cast a new one with a better offset, it would make heel/toe way easier on these older cars. I do it as a regular practice in everday driving in my nissan Z, the pedals are pretty close. SOmetimes its hard to brake really hard when your foot is on both the gas and brake though

Blown353
10-21-2006, 10:47 PM
If I wanted to do it like he did in the video, I'd need to strap a chunk of 2x4 to my heel in order to reach my gas pedal. :( But, I heel & toe in my daily driver all the time.

Keith, same pedal setup in my car compared to yours and I can "heel-toe" but I have to use the side of my foot rather than my heel and toe. LOL.

I use the left half of the ball of my right foot on the brake and "roll" my ankle over to the right so I can use the other half of the foot to blip the gas. I did have to play with the gas & brake pedal heights to be able to do this. What I really need to do is make a new gas pedal that's a bit lower and closer to the brake pedal, it would make things much easier.

Also, I'd feel MUCH safer modding the gas pedal to be in a better position than modding the brake pedal & bracket-- if the revised gas pedal were to break it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Can't say the same if the brake pedal busted on you...

fatlife
10-21-2006, 11:51 PM
^^^^^^^^^^
why I never tried messing with the brake pedal. Gas pedal is doable, but the brake pedal would be so much easier. I would think that you would need to lower the brake pedal also, which wouldn't be very safe. The gas pedal would be much more work but it would be interesting to see what someone could come up with. Unfortunately I doubt anyone will produce anything for our cars, because most people are too caught up in bling to bother putting something truly fucntional on their car, that you can't see.

Damn True
10-22-2006, 12:41 AM
Credit John Parsons for the idea.

Use graduated thickness' of plywood to build up the height of the gas pedal such that it's undepressed height is equal to that of the height of the depressed brake pedal. Then shape the top-most layer of ply such that it reduces the gap between the gas pedal and brake. Then attach blingy alloy pedal cover.

Scha-wing.

BTW, There is a brilliant series of articles in the SCCA mag by Randy Pobst. In one particular article about a year ago he covered braking. His description of proper braking called for heavy-on gradual-off in terms of pedal pressure. At the time one is reaching over to blip the throttle one should be tapering off the pressure on the brake pedal. Which adresses the above worry of accomplishing the "blip" wilst one is heavy on the brakes.