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WhitecatD
10-09-2006, 11:50 AM
how much would a basic set up cost to make 1000hp? Nuthing fancy like polished intakes or anything like that. I was looking at the Banks twin turbo set up for a small block.

Speedster
10-09-2006, 12:45 PM
The first question is: The cost to hit 1,000 hp for bragging rights, or the cost to hit 1,000 hp consistently without failure? Also race gas versus pump gas.
Just asking since it makes a huge 2x/3x difference in price.

HRBS
10-09-2006, 12:54 PM
Also, old school displacement (cubic inches) with a big carb(s) or new age technology (twin turbo's, fuel injected etc). Hardcore race or streetable tuning ? NOS or Naturally aspirated ? As you can tell, there are alot of variations to consider when trying to est a build cost. It is possible to achieve 1000hp with a TT small block but the challange as is relates to cost is achived when trying to make it (a) reliable and (b) streeable.

camcojb
10-09-2006, 01:06 PM
how much would a basic set up cost to make 1000hp? Nuthing fancy like polished intakes or anything like that. I was looking at the Banks twin turbo set up for a small block.

The Banks system is $6K or so. I'd recommend an intercooler which would add another $1000-$1500 easy with the plumbing. You can do without and add water/alcohol injection, but not an ideal situation.

You will likely spend in the $8K to $12K for a reasonable long block to handle the boost. More if you want to go bulletproof. That's also if you can do the engine assembly yourself, otherwise add $1500+ for assembly.

You could make the power for less, but if you wanted to be able to do it time and again it pays to use better parts.

Jody

rocketman
10-09-2006, 01:28 PM
1000 hp,

All engines making that hp level are going to be expensive,Forged cranks,billet rods,forged pistions are the only way to build a engine like this.Turbos,blowers,nitrous can all kill parts.I seen a guy at the dragstrip with a stock short block ls1,with twin turbos made 3 passes before breakin ther crank and 2 rods out the oil pan,which then dumped 7 qts of oil on the track and crashed the car.

Dn't try it on a stock parts.

To make 1000 hp will run between 8k and 16k.

syborg tt
10-09-2006, 02:03 PM
The question is do you realy need a 1000hp.

Can i ask another question - most is the most realistic HP number that you can make and it still be streetable

Just an Example the new LS7 is about 500hp and i would say it's tops what you use on the street

chicane
10-09-2006, 06:40 PM
1hp = $150 at the "good guy" price...

1hp = $200 at the "It will actually live long enough to drive it 50k miles" price.

JUSTANOVA
10-09-2006, 07:05 PM
http://www.ultrastreet.net/632_1000_bd.asp

a large X huge big block should do the trick.

rocketman
10-09-2006, 09:26 PM
I say 700 on the street is about right for max street use,I drove 632 on the street for 3 yrs,then had a 710 on the street this summer that made just short of 1200hp.

To me 500hp is kinda weak,500hp are common on the street.

1hp = $2.00 thats pretty reasonable,but at this level.$2.25 or 2.50 is most likely where you will be.

Project_Gotham
10-10-2006, 12:20 AM
Just get crate 350 with a 700hp shot of Nitrous.
Cost=4,000
J/K

avitet
10-10-2006, 07:40 AM
well how much it will cost depends on. are you going to buy a kit or piece it togther can you do the work your self or have a shop do the work. but in general everyone was right the short block will be the most important part but rember the better heads and intake you use the less boost it will take to reach your goal and if you have e85 readily avabile you could look at nut running an inter cooler wihch brings up the fule system which is nearly as important as the shortblock.

nitrorocket
10-10-2006, 04:19 PM
Well, to answer your question. It can be done very reliably with about $12K if you do it all yourself using a LSX based motor. 1000 hp can be attained on 93 octane for this price. :yes:

rocketman
10-10-2006, 06:04 PM
It can prolly be built for that,but do you have a stock shortblock,what about heads,if so it won't live long at the track most likely.

nitrorocket
10-12-2006, 11:23 AM
All that really needs to be done to the motor is forged rods and pistons along with good valves, then you can pretty much make all the power you want. :yes:

WhitecatD
10-12-2006, 12:41 PM
All that really needs to be done to the motor is forged rods and pistons along with good valves, then you can pretty much make all the power you want. :yes:

Really, that’s awesome :wow: . How much did you pay for the whole set up when it was done? Are the LSX blocks only aftermarket? Do you have a break down of the parts you put into it?

I don’t know anything about the LS motors :( .

Leadfoot1
10-12-2006, 12:59 PM
NITRO!!!

Stop spreading the news on the LS engines!!!

....Everyone is gonna want one after your ongoing publicity and we'll end up paying more (even more i should say...)

Lets keep them low profile!

:lol:

I'm seriously looking to follow your path instead of the Procharger set up i had in mind for this winter. I'm just learning here and there at the moment. TT sure looks killer on top of things.

What kind of production Turbos could be salvaged from a donor car to build a butget / still hardcore system on an LSX platform?

Lead.

nitrorocket
10-12-2006, 04:02 PM
I would have to do a "new" real accurate cost total, but I know it is somewhere between 13-14K. I used the "BEST" materials possible though. Most do nothing for performance, I know that now, but when I was building it, I did not want to cut corners.

Stock block aluminum ls1's have made 1500 hp on the factory block! Basically just change the rods, pistons, valves, and timing chain. With trbos this will make a 100% reliable 800+ hp with un ported heads.

WhitecatD
10-12-2006, 04:30 PM
What’s the difference between an LSX block and an LS1 block? What vehicles could I get one of these blocks out of, truck or car, or just a car? I don’t know much about cars made after 1979.

camcojb
10-12-2006, 04:51 PM
What’s the difference between an LSX block and an LS1 block? What vehicles could I get one of these blocks out of, truck or car, or just a car? I don’t know much about cars made after 1979.

LSX stands for the entire family of LS1, LS2, LS7, etc. The "X" means any of the numbers that go after it.

Jody

nitrorocket
10-12-2006, 10:16 PM
:yes: