Hobbs Camaro (Old Drag Car)

[ScotI]

Andrew, I think it’s this.


https://www.dewitts.com/products/1967-1969-camaro-brushless-fan-radiator-combo

You answered as I was copying the link LOL. Pg 17; Post #165

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[Stielow]

Hi Mark,

Can you please elaborate on the fan? It looks like a 6th Gen Camaro 850 watt fan, but with a custom shroud...More information would be appreciated.

Andrew


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[Stielow]

what's zipped to the A arm shaft in the last picture?


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[Stielow]

Because the battery is in the engine bay. We mounted the battery disconnect up front.

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[clill]

Ohhh sure...Tell everyone where the anti theft device is.....

[dontlifttoshift]

I thought the 3rd pedal was the anti theft device.

[camcojb]

I thought the 3rd pedal was the anti theft device.

:D:D

[TechNova]

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it looked like it had fabric around it, that's why I didn't recognoze it as the shock canister. I knew it was temporary zip tie, seen enough of your builds to know there would be a nice bracket.

[Stielow]

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[Stielow]

I was not happy with my first velocity stack. I decided to make a new one. Fun project where I go to use my shop.

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A little cleaner. Not sure if it will make any more power but it seems better.


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[Stielow]

I was not happy with my first velocity stack. I decided to make a new one. Fun project where I go to use my shop.

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A little cleaner. Not sure if it will make any more power but it seems better.


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[Dodge383fi]

Looking good.
Nice drafting set. That brings back a lot of memories.
-Ed

[clill]

What could go wrong ?

[Stielow]

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A little hard line action


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[camcojb]

Very nice hardline work.

[Blown353]

Mark, how do you normally run the brake hoses and wheel speed sensor wires to the rear axle for the ABS? Do you drop them all near the center section and run them along the axle like GM routed the brake lines on these cars originally, or you you drop each side down independently near the hubs like many late model cars with IRS do?

Just asking because I'm adding ABS to my car, and trying to decide how best to run things to the rear hubs and calipers. I'm leaning towards dropping both brake hoses and the speed sensor wires above the center section and then running them down the axle tubes to the rear hubs.

[clill]

Please remove the sticker from the crank pulley.

[Stielow]

Mark, how do you normally run the brake hoses and wheel speed sensor wires to the rear axle for the ABS? Do you drop them all near the center section and run them along the axle like GM routed the brake lines on these cars originally, or you you drop each side down independently near the hubs like many late model cars with IRS do?

Just asking because I'm adding ABS to my car, and trying to decide how best to run things to the rear hubs and calipers. I'm leaning towards dropping both brake hoses and the speed sensor wires above the center section and then running them down the axle tubes to the rear hubs.


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The rear brake lines run down the sides outside the frame rail.

The wiring comes off the ABS module as twister pairs. Goes through a bulkhead connector the interior. Those wire join the rear compartment wiring harness that has the tail light, fuel pump…

The rear wheel speed wires (twister pair) pass through to a harness on the rear axle. At the connector we swap from normal wire (twisted pair) to a tougher encapsulation wire that goes the wheel speed sensors.

The OE style encapsulation wiring is hard to find and I had to purchase 1000 feet of it to get some. Nice stuff.

I’ll get a photo soon

Mark


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[Stielow]

Please remove the sticker from the crank pulley.


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It came from China…


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[camcojb]

Please remove the sticker from the crank pulley.

:lol:

[fleet]

Please remove the sticker from the crank pulley.


:P

Dude!

[BonzoHansen]

Very nice hardline work.

no ****, that's great. I have never been able to bend stainless lines well at all.

[Stielow]

no ****, that's great. I have never been able to bend stainless lines well at all.


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One more, fuel cross over.

I love the engine bay on this build. Nice mix of old and new.

We are back and forth on paining the LS engine to make is look like a 375 HP 396. Or leave it raw aluminum like a fake ZL1.


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[ScotI]

One more, fuel cross over.

I love the engine bay on this build. Nice mix of old and new.

We are back and forth on paining the LS engine to make is look like a 375 HP 396. Or leave it raw aluminum like a fake ZL1.


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Well..... The ZL1 option was available in '69 so why not?

[thedugan]

My vote is to stick to the original Hobbs Camaro theme. Orange motor to continue the theme.

[Blown353]

The rear brake lines run down the sides outside the frame rail.

The wiring comes off the ABS module as twister pairs. Goes through a bulkhead connector the interior. Those wire join the rear compartment wiring harness that has the tail light, fuel pump…

The rear wheel speed wires (twister pair) pass through to a harness on the rear axle. At the connector we swap from normal wire (twisted pair) to a tougher encapsulation wire that goes the wheel speed sensors.

The OE style encapsulation wiring is hard to find and I had to purchase 1000 feet of it to get some. Nice stuff.

I’ll get a photo soon

Mark


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So you're dropping it at the sides near the hubs like a late model and then running a flexline right to the calipers and the wheel speed sensor wires right to the hub... thanks!

Makes more sense than running everything to the top of the center section and then down along the axle tubes like the 50 year old OEM layout-- especially when I would have to snake the lines and wires over watts link brackets, sway bar brackets, and then worry about maintaining adequate clearance between the hard lines and speed sensor wires to the tailpipes at full suspension compression. Dropping them at the sides keeps them out of the way of all of the rear end brackets and also the hot exhaust.

[Stielow]

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Starting to pull it back apart to paint some of the parts.

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[Jay Hilliard]

Hey Mark,

Is the engine in the stock location or is it setback? Also what engine mounts are you using?

Thanks.

[fleet]

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One more, fuel cross over.

I love the engine bay on this build. Nice mix of old and new.

We are back and forth on paining the LS engine to make is look like a 375 HP 396. Or leave it raw aluminum like a fake ZL1.


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Mark,

Since the car is not being painted, the thinking here is to stick with that theme and not paint the engine. #lessismore

[Stielow]

We have used this template since 2002. I’ve lost track of how many time Matt or myself have used it. If it isn’t broke no need to fix it.

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[Stielow]

Hey Mark,

Is the engine in the stock location or is it setback? Also what engine mounts are you using?

Thanks.


We used the Holley mounts. It is in the “stockish” location. Not as far back as some of the other cars. A little farther forward to make it easier for wiring and bellhousing bolts.


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[Stielow]

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Because I know the car will see track use we added a simple roll hoop. It is for a shoulder belt system for street use and a cross bar for 6 point belts for track use.

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[HRS]

"It is for a shoulder belt system for street use and a cross bar for 6 point belts for track use."

So you are going to run 2 different belt systems based on use... Will both be installed at the same time OR do you plan to change over from street to track when needed?

[EVIL SS]

Because I know the car will see track use we added a simple roll hoop. It is for a shoulder belt system for street use and a cross bar for 6 point belts for track use.

More photos to come soon.

Mark, Do you have a picture of how you mount the Recaro seat tracks?

[TechNova]

Painting the small parts is one of my favorite tasks.

[Stielow]

"It is for a shoulder belt system for street use and a cross bar for 6 point belts for track use."

So you are going to run 2 different belt systems based on use... Will both be installed at the same time OR do you plan to change over from street to track when needed?


That is the plan to have a street 3 point belt set up and a 6 point for the track. We have not designed it yet.

If it is a hassle I’ll go back to what I have always used. A 6 point set up and just wear the lap belt on the street.


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[HRS]

I'm interested in seeing what you come up with. I've had my 69 for over 34 years and 32 were driving on the street with stock belts. Started to autocross 2 years ago and stock belts aren't enough. I still spend a lot of time on the street driving to local cruise-ins.

[thedugan]

I'm interested in seeing what you come up with. I've had my 69 for over 34 years and 32 were driving on the street with stock belts. Started to autocross 2 years ago and stock belts aren't enough. I still spend a lot of time on the street driving to local cruise-ins.

Have you tried the Morris Classic 3 point belts? I have it. A very nice upgrade to the stock lap belts.

[OLDFLM]

Have you tried the Morris Classic 3 point belts? I have it. A very nice upgrade to the stock lap belts.

I have them in my car too! LOVE the 3 point belts and have them mounted in the stock locations.

https://www.morrisclassic.com/products/1967-69-camaro-front-3-point-seat-belts-new

For Hobb's Camaro it should be fairly easy to mount the reel to the floor and shoulder belt mount to top corner of the roll bar.

[srode1]

Are those rear shelf speaker inserts purchased or fabricated custom?

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Mark, can you tell me what coils are being used here? Also, wondering if I could copy this design of the coils in the SBC distributor location. Love this idea.

Thanks,

Bill

[Stielow]

Mark, can you tell me what coils are being used here? Also, wondering if I could copy this design of the coils in the SBC distributor location. Love this idea.

Thanks,

Bill


They are just LS3 style coils.


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[Stielow]

Are those rear shelf speaker inserts purchased or fabricated custom?


All custom fabrication. They are nice because it really stiffens up the package tray. Nice rattle free speaker set up.

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All custom fabrication. They are nice because it really stiffens up the package tray. Nice rattle free speaker set up.

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We had a plastic elbow break under dash in the heater lines on a past project. We have move to stainless steel. I bit overkill but I would be shocked if it failed.

All the BS because I wanted to keep the BBC heater line location out of the heater core box.


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[ataves1]

This thing is so good! Question: will you be using a GM ecu tuned for speed density or something like a Holley to control this thing? I'm currently putting together a retro look LS and was curious.

[Stielow]

This thing is so good! Question: will you be using a GM ecu tuned for speed density or something like a Holley to control this thing? I'm currently putting together a retro look LS and was curious.


We are using Holley. It seems sorted and fairly straightforward.


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The hard lines make a clean installation.


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[syborg tt]

Thank you for the update and the great idea's

mj

[BonzoHansen]

I appreciate such terrific work that no one will see! Impressive.

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Coming apart to paint the bottom.


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[jeff71]

This ones getting the bits and pieces painted in house this time?

[Stielow]

This ones getting the bits and pieces painted in house this time?


Yes, Matt built a nice spray booth in his shop. Very good for small stuff and the bottoms of cars.


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[syborg tt]

Yes, Matt built a nice spray booth in his shop. Very good for small stuff and the bottoms of cars.

That's a great idea.

[Aschle]

This is an awesome build !!! All of the previous cars are stellar, yet this one has the classic style to go along with the function. Great job !!!

[jason]

Hey Mark , question regarding headers . Have you in previous builds used the Detroit speed headers , matched to their subframe ? If so , what’s your opinion on fit and quality . If not, do you have a go to for a specific one ?

[Stielow]

Hey Mark , question regarding headers . Have you in previous builds used the Detroit speed headers , matched to their subframe ? If so , what’s your opinion on fit and quality . If not, do you have a go to for a specific one ?


I have not used them but I have seen them on other cars at Sled Alley. They fit great and look very nice.

Mark


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[jason]

Good to know, thanks for your input Mark, I appreciate it .

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[jeff71]

Are those all the same color black?

[Stielow]

Are those all the same color black?


Same color different sheen.


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[camcojb]

Preparing parts going together


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Mark,

When do you expect to have it finished?

[Stielow]

Mark,

When do you expect to have it finished?


Well, I was hopefully thinking it would be Memorial Day weekend but now shooting for July 4th.


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[WSSix]

That will be here before you know it. Looking good.

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[camcojb]

That looks great. :thumbsup:

[fleet]

Great to see the build details at this stage.

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[RKROEGER]

I would love to have my trunk look like that. Great job

[syborg tt]

Well, I was hopefully thinking it would be Memorial Day weekend but now shooting for July 4th.


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Looking forward to seeing this one at Sema or possible Good-Guys Iowa ???

mj

[Stielow]

Looking forward to seeing this one at Sema or possible Good-Guys Iowa ???

mj


No plans for either of those events this year.


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[jeff71]

Hey Mark, do you typically run the same brake pad for both street and track days?


If so which one?

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I think I will have 2 sets of brakes for this car. The track setup with the Brembo and Monoblock Forgeline wheel (Pictured below). To keep with look of the car I’m going to order new Forgeline OE wheels that will take poverty cap hub caps. For the OE style wheel I’ll need to run stock C6 Corvette brakes. For just cruising around the OE black steel looking wheels will work well.

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[Stielow]

If you need to use one pad use a HP1000 Ferodo material. It is a good mix of street and moderate track usage. If you are going to hit the track hard I have had great luck with Pagid pads. Brake pads, calipers and rotors are a personal choice. There are a lot of good companies and parts out there. I’m just going off my experience. There is not 100% right best answer, every application is a little different.

Mark


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[jeff71]

Thanks for the respose Mark.

I'm not finding anything for C6 Z06 from Ferodo except these.....

Ferodo DS2500 Brake Pads - Padlets


HP1000 possibly discontinued?

[PTAddict]

Thanks for the respose Mark.

I'm not finding anything for C6 Z06 from Ferodo except these.....

Ferodo DS2500 Brake Pads - Padlets


HP1000 possibly discontinued?

Pad choices for C6 Z06 are somewhat limited because of the funky padlet design for those calipers.

The DS2500 is a street plus moderate track pad. I used them on my C7 vette for a couple of track days, they worked OK. They were quiet on the street, but like all performance pads were more dusty than the OEM pads.

If you're a newer track driver doing autoX or a couple of HPDE per year on street tires, the DS2500 may work OK. More experienced drivers running a car like the Z06 on multiple track days a year, and/or with stickier tires, typically swap to a specific track pad with matching rotors on track days. Like Mark said, it depends.

You might look in the autoX and road racing section of the Corvette forum: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/autocrossing-and-roadracing-23/ Lots of experience there.

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The extra connector is to add the missing sensor so you can do a Tech 2 ABS bleed. A Tech 2 ABS bleed is where you use a GM diagnostic tool to activate the valves in the ABS module to get the air out.

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The car was repainted in the 1980s and had a ton of overspray in the door jams. Because the doors have never been off the car we just cleaned it up.

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[130fe]

Mark, you mentioned the C6 brakes (assuming base) fit in the Forgeline OE wheels. Do you know if they fit in 18” size ones?

[ScotI]

Mark, you mentioned the C6 brakes (assuming base) fit in the Forgeline OE wheels. Do you know if they fit in 18” size ones?

I have a c6 z51/j55 brake package (C6 floating 2-piston caliper; 13.4" rotor) that fit within 18" Rocket Racing 'Attack' wheels.

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[Stielow]

Some interior bits coming together. Sinking the speaker in the package tray is some work but it really stiffens up the panel and make the package tray look great.

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[Stielow]

A good way to wrap up a week. The Camaro
Looks like a Camaro.

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It should be a roller when I get back from France for the 24 hours of Le Mans.


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[camcojb]

This is turning out great Mark. :thumbsup:

[clill]

At least you didn't paint it white....

[camcojb]

At least you didn't paint it white....
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[214Chevy]

Looking great!!

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[NOVA]

The GM O.E look is Perfect

[214Chevy]

The GM O.E look is Perfect

Yes it is!! Saves a lot of money too.

[Frankenstine]

GREAT UPDATE PICKS MR STIELOW, CAMARO IS LOOKING GREAT
THE STOCK LOOKING BOLTS UNDER THE HOOD LOOK GREAT. DID YOU USE A MASTER BOLT KIT? IF SO CAN YOU TELL THE MANUFACTURER YOU USED ??? IM LOOKING FOR NEW BOLTS FOR MY PROJECT.

[F'in mine]

If you're looking for factory fastener hardware check with this company.
https://www.amkproducts.com/master-kits/chevrolet-master-fastener-kits/

[Stielow]

GREAT UPDATE PICKS MR STIELOW, CAMARO IS LOOKING GREAT
THE STOCK LOOKING BOLTS UNDER THE HOOD LOOK GREAT. DID YOU USE A MASTER BOLT KIT? IF SO CAN YOU TELL THE MANUFACTURER YOU USED ??? IM LOOKING FOR NEW BOLTS FOR MY PROJECT.


We took all the stock 1969 bolts and had the stripped and zinc plated. A place in Mai will do is for fairly cheap money.

We strip and plate a lot of parts. Easy maintenance and they look great.


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In the past I had to get SKF to custom make me wheel bearings with the “ZR1” style bearings. MPI make a “Big Bearing” that had the larger two row ball bearing, the bigger ZR1 splined internals and passive wheel speed sensors.

For people not attempting to use 2008 and older Corvette ABS this is not an issue. If you are like me, then these are perfect and cheaper then the SKF “Big Bearing”.

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[fleet]

Wow Mark, that ‘factory fresh’ underhood look is so clean!

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[NAPA 68]

Love the project, although for selfish reasons I hate to see it coming to the end.

It always seems like you have had another core car stuffed in the bushes waiting to go. Any chance?

Not that your day job commands a little time.........

[Stielow]

Love the project, although for selfish reasons I hate to see it coming to the end.

It always seems like you have had another core car stuffed in the bushes waiting to go. Any chance?

Not that your day job commands a little time.........


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Well we will be starting Camaro XX soon.


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The grill that came with the car was a little busted up. Luckily I had a nice one in stock at home. I think it is a repo, but it fits nice. We are taking the car to Boris later in July to get some touch up painting done. He said he can match the patina.


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[Juggernaut]

Love the project, although for selfish reasons I hate to see it coming to the end.

It always seems like you have had another core car stuffed in the bushes waiting to go. Any chance?

Not that your day job commands a little time.........

cough, cough (https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59227)

:underchair: :D

[jeff71]

Borris is a wizard at faux patina. Vastine in TX is also good.

[syborg tt]

The grill that came with the car was a little busted up. Luckily I had a nice one in stock at home. I think it is a repo, but it fits nice. We are taking the car to Boris later in July to get some touch up painting done. He said he can match the patina.


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I plan to do the same this winter as I no longer want a pretty paint car. I want a car I can lean on just like I did when I was a kid.

[68454RS]

I plan to do the same this winter as I no longer want a pretty paint car. I want a car I can lean on just like I did when I was a kid.

A lot to be said for driver quality paint versus show car paint.... That's the main reason i'm holding off painting the Camaro, then i'd be afraid to drive it.

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Mark, I wonder if you could elaborate on your fuel tank venting system that you used, looks like a Ricks resto-mod tank and from previous builds the 2 much cannister? Pics would be great for us mere mortals. Thanks in advance.

[Stielow]

Mark, I wonder if you could elaborate on your fuel tank venting system that you used, looks like a Ricks resto-mod tank and from previous builds the 2 much cannister? Pics would be great for us mere mortals. Thanks in advance.


When we get the parts I’ll post pictures with an explanation.

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One of the parts I have used on 69 Camaros since 1993. 1990-1993 Caprice fuel/license plate frame. It flips down like a 69 Camaro one, excepts it toggles over and stays in a 90 degree angle while you are filling. I used to get them out of junk yards for $3. Now on EBay they are $35.

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When you build a lot of Camaros you get to regift parts. I found this driveshaft in my atic. Matt and I took a few minutes to sort out where it came from. When we swapped the engine and sub frame in Jackass the engine was moved rearward requiring a new driveshaft. So this is to old driveshaft out of Jackass 1.0 from around 2007. Look honey I’m saving money….lol


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[syborg tt]

So this is to old driveshaft out of Jackass 1.0 from around 2007. Look honey I’m saving money….lol
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Love the license plate flip down and try not to talk about what I spend on my cars with my wife.

[Juggernaut]

One of the parts I have used on 69 Camaros since 1993. 1990-1993 Caprice fuel/license plate frame. It flips down like a 69 Camaro one, excepts it toggles over and stays in a 90 degree angle while you are filling. I used to get them out of junk yards for $3. Now on EBay they are $35.

I thought that looked familiar... my '93 Caprice outside says "hi!"

Haven't had a '94-6 B-body in a few years but the plate bracket ought to be the same for those years as well.

[jeff71]

Hey Mark,

I was curious if you thought the C6 Z06 brakes would clear the Forgeline OE wheels front and rear.

[Stielow]

Hey Mark,

I was curious if you thought the C6 Z06 brakes would clear the Forgeline OE wheels front and rear.


Yes Forgeline can build them to fit the 6 piston C6 Z06 brakes. You will need to go to a thinner outer wheel half. I did the base slider C6 brakes to get a more “stock” look. I pulled the hub cab back as far as I could with the widest outer wheel half I could do.


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Repurposing the ashtray for Dakota Digital switch, dash dimmer and 12V power point


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[NAPA 68]

That stance just fff'n works!

At first glance I thought there may be a seat heater switch in the ashtray:D

[clill]

Now paint it white.

[camcojb]

Now paint it white.

:lol:

[Cheveezy]

Slick idea on the ashtray!

[fleet]

Now paint it white.


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:P

[Ketzer]

I pulled the hub cab back as far as I could with the widest outer wheel half I could do.


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Makes a huge difference!!
They don't look like temporary spare steelies now...:lol:



Jeff-

[Stielow]

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Now the car is more together, I think the wheels need to be blue.

[214Chevy]

I think the wheels need to be blue.

I agree, me too.

[BonzoHansen]

I agree, me too.

Yes!

[WSSix]

I would say blue and or add red lines on the tires or rims. Not sure how it's done nowadays. In general, something to break up the black. Car looks killer either way.

[Ketzer]

Blue and patinaed like the rest?

[jeff71]

Ohhhh Borris!

[Stielow]

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[NAPA 68]

The decals on the A/C compressor are a nice touch:)

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Bad photos but the Dakota Digital dash set up.


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[camcojb]

Stance is perfect as usual. :thumbsup:

[thedugan]

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Bad photos but the Dakota Digital dash set up.


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Do you swap the tach and speedo sides because you focus more on the tach when racing or driving?

[Stielow]

Do you swap the tach and speedo sides because you focus more on the tach when racing or driving?


I did not think about it. I guess the Dakota Digital stuff you can do it either way.

That is just how Matt put it together.


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[syborg tt]

Just when you think you have seen it all when it comes to a 69 Camaro. You once again create a car so simple and unassuming that you have to stop to take it all in.

Can't wait to see more updates.


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[Stielow]

Just when you think you have seen it all when it comes to a 69 Camaro. You once again create a car so simple and unassuming that you have to stop to take it all in.

Can't wait to see more updates.


Thanks! Every Camaro I have built has a little different personality. This one is off the normal recipe. I’ve never had a Camaro with history. I’m happy how it is coming along.


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I’m an attempt to make this car quite and a great cruiser, I’m putting 2018 Corvette Z06
Catalytic converters on it. They are high flow and validated for a 650 HP engine. They should work great behind my 500 HP LS7. It should also knock a bunch of noise out of it.


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Now the car is more together, I think the wheels need to be blue.

Give you an idea. I'd try to match the paint fade of the car to the wheels.

[OLDFLM]

I think once the car gets driven a little and the rims aren't so clean it will look great... I like the black.

[ScotI]

I think once the car gets driven a little and the rims aren't so clean it will look great... I like the black.

Agreed 100%.

[PTAddict]

I’m an attempt to make this car quite and a great cruiser, I’m putting 2018 Corvette Z06
Catalytic converters on it. They are high flow and validated for a 650 HP engine. They should work great behind my 500 HP LS7. It should also knock a bunch of noise out of it.


It's funny how the older I get, the less I like my cars to be loud and smelly :-)

[Stielow]

It's funny how the older I get, the less I like my cars to be loud and smelly :-)


It is also easier to get your wife to go if it is a bit more civilized.


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[camcojb]

Has Laura ridden with you on a road course? :drive:

[Stielow]

Has Laura ridden with you on a road course? :drive:


Umm…no, but she should. It’s a kick.

On the flip side I have never ridden with her.


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[camcojb]

Umm…no, but she should. It’s a kick.

On the flip side I have never ridden with her.


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Yeah, it's a blast. Charley wouldn't ride with you because he said you'd scare him lol. I thought Laura was tougher than Charley. :lol:

[OLDFLM]

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Mark, are these true cats or do they just add volume to the exhaust system and act as large resonators?

[clill]

Yeah, it's a blast. Charley wouldn't ride with you because he said you'd scare him lol. I thought Laura was tougher than Charley. :lol:
I just rode with him in the Indy 500 Pace car for a couple laps at the track at speed. 155 into the turns ? Piece of cake... Actually kind of boring because he is so smooth. There are smooth drivers and frantic drivers... Smooth is mo better...

[camcojb]

I just rode with him in the Indy 500 Pace car for a couple laps at the track at speed. 155 into the turns ? Piece of cake... Actually kind of boring because he is so smooth. There are smooth drivers and frantic drivers... Smooth is mo better...

I'll re-word it... you wouldn't ride with him on that track day at Thunderhill. :lol:

[NAPA 68]

This thread is going to cause me to start another project before I should:idea:

[clill]

I'll re-word it... you wouldn't ride with him on that track day at Thunderhill. :lol:The track day where he missed turn 4 and went over the top instead of turning ?

[camcojb]

With a rider in the car (me) that wasn't supposed to be there for that session? Yeah, that one. :lol: He remembered it as a third gear corner, actually it was a second gear corner... :drive:

[Stielow]

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Jerome at Street Machinery in OH is matching the patina on the mirrors and the grill.


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The crew at Street Machinery did a great job!


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[Stielow]

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We waited until the paint work was done to put the interior in it.


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[Jimbo1367]

Man, Sled Alley does such beautiful work.

[Stielow]

Man, Sled Alley does such beautiful work.


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[sleepertime]

I am interested in upgrading my existing front seats, what model are those that you decided to go with for this build? Thanks... :thankyou: :flag2:

[Stielow]

I am interested in upgrading my existing front seats, what model are those that you decided to go with for this build? Thanks... :thankyou: :flag2:


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Recaro Specialist in leather with slide out seat bolster. Good place to pass through a sub belt for 6 point belts.


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[sleepertime]

Thanks a lot I appreciate the feedback. That is exactly the information I was looking for. At this point I need more comfortable seats for longer term driving.
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[syborg tt]

I love how the back seats match the front seats



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[HRS]

Here are 2 versions of blue wheels - All blue and the center blue. All blue might be too much blue being 18" wheels?

https://i.postimg.cc/zXg1khj2/Markpartblue.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qz4YJzW2)

https://i.postimg.cc/qqtHS6dR/Markfullblue.jpg (https://postimg.cc/H8CN7xnD)

[EVIL SS]

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Mark, any pics of the seat mounting bracket?

[OLDFLM]

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Mark,

Are you keeping the stock steering wheel or going with your preferred MOMO?

I like the cruise control!

[srode1]

Here are 2 versions of blue wheels - All blue and the center blue. All blue might be too much blue being 18" wheels?

https://i.postimg.cc/zXg1khj2/Markpartblue.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qz4YJzW2)

https://i.postimg.cc/qqtHS6dR/Markfullblue.jpg (https://postimg.cc/H8CN7xnD)I like the blue wheels better, they period correct.

[Stielow]

Mark, any pics of the seat mounting bracket?


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[Stielow]

Mark,

Are you keeping the stock steering wheel or going with your preferred MOMO?

I like the cruise control!


I like the look of the stock steering wheel for this project. Once I start driving it. I might swap it.


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[Stielow]

Here are 2 versions of blue wheels - All blue and the center blue. All blue might be too much blue being 18" wheels?

https://i.postimg.cc/zXg1khj2/Markpartblue.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qz4YJzW2)

https://i.postimg.cc/qqtHS6dR/Markfullblue.jpg (https://postimg.cc/H8CN7xnD)


Thanks for the effort, the photo shop job looks good. Still on the fence on black or blue wheels.


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[camcojb]

If you do go with the blue, I like the black outer/smaller blue version. Makes it look a lot more like a period correct 15" wheel/tire.

[srode1]

Yep, my vote would be Blue with the black outer lip too. Probably flatten the black a tad to come closer to your tire color.

[TechNova]

Mark, what is the driver's sport mirror from? Is it non-remote?
I plan to put a pair on my son's car but the driver's I have has the manual remote cables. I do not want to cut the original doors panels.

[jason]

Hey mark , question regarding your transmission. Do you run the .63 6th gear , or the .50 6th gear model

[Stielow]

Mark, what is the driver's sport mirror from? Is it non-remote?
I plan to put a pair on my son's car but the driver's I have has the manual remote cables. I do not want to cut the original doors panels.


I use G-Body sport mirrors. They are remote operated from the factory. They have a cable on them stock. I make new mechanical parts for them to make them manual adjustable.

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I have tried a few different ways of doing it. This is not easy. I knew someone would eventually ask the question so here are a few photos. To get it to fit in the housing is a lot of trial and error.


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[Stielow]

Hey mark , question regarding your transmission. Do you run the .63 6th gear , or the .50 6th gear model


I have been using the .63 because it is more fun for road tours when you are in the mountains.

If you live in KS and you want better fuel economy get the 0.5. The engine rpm drops a lot but makes the 4-5-6 gear spacing large.

With the big gear rpm drops the engine is lugging or spinning up. It is a personal preference deal.


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[jeff71]

Mark, did you go with the close ratio and have D&D do the .50 swap on this build?

[Stielow]

Mark, did you go with the close ratio and have D&D do the .50 swap on this build?


D&D can give you the tight ratio 1-5 and add a 0.5 6th. This works great with a blower motor with a ton of torque because it can pull the 3.25 rear gear and the OD. For this build with a stock LS7 I closely copied the 2014 Z/28 with a tight 1-6 and a 3.73 rear gear. It will turn a little bit more RPM at 80 but should drive great.


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[raustinss]

I really wish I remember who it was many moons ago made a power mirror set up for those mirrors

[TechNova]

I use G-Body sport mirrors. They are remote operated from the factory. They have a cable on them stock. I make new mechanical parts for them to make them manual adjustable.

I have tried a few different ways of doing it. This is not easy. I knew someone would eventually ask the question so here are a few photos. To get it to fit in the housing is a lot of trial and error.


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Thanks, I will play around and copy that, like trial and error. In the 80's I tied off the manual cable inside the door and it worked but I want to do a little better now.

[BonzoHansen]

I really wish I remember who it was many moons ago made a power mirror set up for those mirrors

I might be remembering wrong, but wasn't there a C3 power version?

[BonzoHansen]

I use G-Body sport mirrors.

Curious why G body - are the bases better suited for 1st gens? Like a better angle, etc.

[Stielow]

Curious why G body - are the bases better suited for 1st gens? Like a better angle, etc.


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They bolt on with studs (more solid) and have a slightly longer neck.

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[72Z/28]

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They bolt on with studs (more solid) and have a slightly longer neck.

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Mark, are these mirrors direct replacement for 68-69 camaro mirrors?

[Stielow]

Mark, are these mirrors direct replacement for 68-69 camaro mirrors?


Define direct replacement. It is not a direct replacement. Some assembly required.


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[72Z/28]

Define direct replacement. It is not a direct replacement. Some assembly required.


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Thanks for the reply. I mean if the base of the G Body mirror and the stud spacing match with the 68 camaro mirror base, so there is no need to drill holes at different locations to fix the G Body mirror.

[Stielow]

Thanks for the reply. I mean if the base of the G Body mirror and the stud spacing match with the 68 camaro mirror base, so there is no need to drill holes at different locations to fix the G Body mirror.


Yes you need to drill two holes and sort out what to do with the remote mirror control on the drivers side.


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[kwhizz]

Kwhizz will know for sure but that looks like Great Lakes Dragaway in Union Grove.

I'm a little sad the bonkers paint isn't on the car.



Yep..........Pic from the Grove!!!!!!!

[dropped72ss]

This build is great, just went through the posts. what great attention to detail. super Sano build.

[Steve68]

Love the wheels!!! Both the blue/black and plain black look good, I'll go back and look for the specs,

and the mirror G body manual conversion, very slick,

[Stielow]

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[srode1]

Is that a Dakota Digital fuel gauge? Never seen one like that, looks nice.

[thedugan]

Great stock look with the gauges and down to the original radio.

[Stielow]

Is that a Dakota Digital fuel gauge? Never seen one like that, looks nice.


It has some custom parts. The fuel gauge is one off and the bezels have been reworked also.


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[Stielow]

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I set the Dakota Digital dash to the old ODOMETER miles


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[camcojb]

Kept the mileage. :thumbsup:

[clill]

No…He rolled it back 7/10ths.

[camcojb]

No…He rolled it back 7/10ths.

OK "Mr. Technical"... :lol:

[Stielow]

OK "Mr. Technical"... :lol:


To be fair I bet the speedometer was disconnected a big chunk of this cars life.

The actual mileage is most likely way more.


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[BonzoHansen]

It is an old drag car....

[jeff71]

Any updates mark? Are you putting miles on it yet? Thoughts on the exhaust sound and drone?

[colorado80439]

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Well we will be starting Camaro XX soon.


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Wow it never ends! Awesome

[89 RS]

No…He rolled it back 7/10ths.

OK "Mr. Technical"... :lol:

:lol:

[jeff71]

Any updates Mark?

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A new car usually has some issue. Hobbs suffered from a soft brake pedal. So we swapped the master cylinder. Nope. I call my ex-Dephi buddy and he said the ABS module is not the issue. So we tried a bunch of bleeding a rotating the calipers and still a soft brake pedal. We did an ABS stop and the LH side tires would lock. I have an extra ABS module so we put that in. All good now.


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If you are going to drive them you have to have a cup holder and a phone holder


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I did my first Cars and Coffee deal this past weekend in Birmingham, MI. It was great to get the car out and see old friends.


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[Stielow]

The car drives great! The Holley engine cal is very good. The trans is great as well as the clutch. The Holley power steering pump is horrible. I have a new one coming from Turn One. The Dakota Digital dash turned out very nice. Great functionality.

We might have over achieved on making it quite. I did not think it was possible. But my wife did not hear me start the car and leave the neighborhood.

Some other small tunings items to work on also.

Mark


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[syborg tt]

Car looks awesome !


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[CarlC]

We might have over achieved on making it quite. I did not think it was possible. But my wife did not hear me start the car and leave the neighborhood.


It will loud-up a bit after hammering on it a while. Supercharging speeds up the process so you might have to throttle-up more often ;-)

[Stielow]

It will loud-up a bit after hammering on it a while. Supercharging speeds up the process so you might have to throttle-up more often ;-)


I’m an old development engineer that is what I have done most of my life. This is part of the normal development process. We moved way off the recipe and it turned out different. No big deal. I’ll try another set of mufflers and if I don’t like them we will try another.

When I first built the 88 Blazer it had a mild cam in it. Everyone loved the loopy idle. I did not. I swapped it and love it.

It is a process and my tastes have shifted over the years. The car is fantastic and with a few small tweaks I’ll like it better.


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[WSSix]

What didn't you like about the power steering, Mark? I'm considering the Holley mid mount setup for my C10. It's just a cruiser and not a performer at all.

Glad you were able to get the car out this year and enjoy it some before the snow sets in. Enjoy the tweaking!

[srode1]

We might have over achieved on making it quite. I did not think it was possible. But my wife did not hear me start the car and leave the neighborhood.
Being able to hold conversations on the highway cruising without raising my voice, but coming to life under hard acceleration with authority define the perfect balance for a pro touring car IMHO. Of course I wouldn't want someone to think it's an EV idling at a stop light either :)

[Stielow]

What didn't you like about the power steering, Mark? I'm considering the Holley mid mount setup for my C10. It's just a cruiser and not a performer at all.

Glad you were able to get the car out this year and enjoy it some before the snow sets in. Enjoy the tweaking!


I have used the Holley mid-mount on a few builds with no issues, works great. The rumor is they switched the Holley power steering pump supplier to some Chinese knockoff. I ordered a Delphi GM pump from Turn One. We are installing that this week. I’ll let you know if that fixes the noise issue and the lack of assist at idle.


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[72Z/28]

I have used the Holley mid-mount on a few builds with no issues, works great. The rumor is they switched the Holley power steering pump supplier to some Chinese knockoff. I ordered a Delphi GM pump from Turn One. We are installing that this week. I’ll let you know if that fixes the noise issue and the lack of assist at idle.


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Mark, can you please share the part number for the Delphi GM pump? Thanks in advance.

[83hurstguy]

The trans is great as well as the clutch.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see which clutch you used in this build - is it the Tilton dual disc here too?

[Stielow]

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see which clutch you used in this build - is it the Tilton dual disc here too?


Stock LS7 C6 Corvette. Works great!

Mark


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[camcojb]

I remember you saying you were very happy with the factory setup with that power level. If that's what you had in Camaro X I agree, great feel.

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New steering wheel and cup holders


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[WSSix]

Simple yet fantastic. Love it!

[syborg tt]

Love the wheel


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Dakota Digital and the new cruise control module


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[jeff71]

Were the original ones non operable?

[Stielow]

Were the original ones non operable?


No just an upgrade


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[jmac]

Happy New Year Mark!!!
Any update on the Turn One PS pump?
Thanks!

[Stielow]

Happy New Year Mark!!!
Any update on the Turn One PS pump?
Thanks!


Were the original ones non operable?


I finally got to drive the car a bit before Christmas. The steering feel at highway speeds is great. Still makes a small amount of noise at parking lot speeds. Like pulling into a parking spot or turning the wheels not moving.


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[rickpaw]

Please let us know how the new Dakota Digital Velocity cruise control kit works. I'm been thinking about adding cc to my car (with Holley EFI/DBW) and this seems to be the solution.

Thanks.

[Stielow]

Please let us know how the new Dakota Digital Velocity cruise control kit works. I'm been thinking about adding cc to my car (with Holley EFI/DBW) and this seems to be the solution.

Thanks.




I finally got to drive the car a bit before Christmas with one nice dry sunny day. With a little tinkering I was able to get the cruise to work fine. I ran out of the day to do a full evaluation. I used it on the hiway at 80 mph with now issues and also at 50 mph on a normal road. Work great. It is a little clunky at 40 mph but who need cruise at 40? I was just doing a sweep of speed.

Once the weather breaks in MI I’ll get out and try it more.

I’d does have a cool Bluetooth app that allows you to make set up changes. Over all another great Dakota Digital product.

A couple example set up screens.

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[camcojb]

Thanks for the info Mark. I plan on getting one for the Chevelle.

[72Z/28]

Mark can you please share the part number for the upper radiator hose. I have recently installed the Holley Mid Mount and the Acdelco 22842M hose is a bit short.

[AJG87]

Mark can you please share the part number for the upper radiator hose. I have recently installed the Holley Mid Mount and the Acdelco 22842M hose is a bit short.

I believe Mark posted this already; D71267 upper hose.

[Stielow]

I believe Mark posted this already; D71267 upper hose.


Thanks, I have not had a chance to look it up.

Mark


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[72Z/28]

I believe Mark posted this already; D71267 upper hose.

Thanks a lot man. I do not know how I missed it. Just placed an order from Rockauto, and hopefully it fits perfectly.

[mdavidthomas]

Someone earlier in the thread asked about the fuel tank vent system. You replied that you would show it once you had it worked out. Do you have a solution for this now on the Hobbs Camaro?

Also, wondering what the bore size of the 2002 F-Body clutch master cylinder is that you are using on your builds?

Thanks,

mdavidthomas

[Stielow]

I finally got the Camaro on the road. Like most of these projects… it had gear whine.

I tried a 12 bolt this go around because that was original to the car.

The only gear I could find at the time was a repo 12 bolt gear. I think is it was a Strange.

I’m looking for a real GM 12 bolt gear. Prefer 3.73 but a 3.55 will be good also.

I’m putting out the I need help beacon on Lat-G and maybe someone has one or knows where one is.

Other than that the car runs great!!


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[camcojb]

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[camcojb]

If you could live with 3.31

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181383

[Stielow]

If you could live with 3.31

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181383


Thanks Jody!!


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