View Full Version : Torque arm vs 4 link ???????
68454RS
07-16-2019, 07:01 AM
I'm sure this has been beat to death but indulge me. After looking at the displays at the Good Guys Columbus show, What true benefit does one have over the other?
I was dead set hard core going with the TCI torque arm but then realized that future option of adding a Gear Vendors OD might be an issue with the torque arm clearance. So rethinking about doing the 4 link. I definitely want to get away from the leaf springs and go with some type of coil over system. Just a street cruiser that likes to take curves fast. Looking for opinions, Thanks
68 Camaro
c4racer2
07-16-2019, 09:18 AM
you have no doubt seen my posts on a similar topic on PT. I was pretty well decided on the TA until I started looking at the mounting and realized the packaging would not work with the exhaust system I have. So changing exhaust isn't that big of a deal, but with the advantages in the packaging for exhaust routing and other items, I am now leaning back to 4 link.
My car is a second gen Camaro, and the new redesigned 4link from RideTech has my eye. Longer front arms for better geometry, delrin style bushings, mostly bolt-in installation leveraging factory spring locations and so far seems to be working quite well on their 1st gen and 2nd gen test Camaro's.
Looks very strong and solid as well - should be capable of handling a good amount of HP.
I like the DSE set-up and if I were going all in with mini tubs I would go that route - but I don't want to lose the back seat just yet so want to continue with my 275/295 tire set-up on 10" wheels which work with the stock tub.
I also like the looks of that new 3 link from Hotchkis, but looks like they package it with a Currie Turn9 rear end which I don't need. Maybe I'll call them to see if they sell separately - but either way the price point seems a bit out of line compared to the usual suspects - BMR, DSE, RT, ST.
Matt@BOS
07-16-2019, 02:49 PM
I'm sure this has been beat to death but indulge me. After looking at the displays at the Good Guys Columbus show, What true benefit does one have over the other?
I was dead set hard core going with the TCI torque arm but then realized that future option of adding a Gear Vendors OD might be an issue with the torque arm clearance. So rethinking about doing the 4 link. I definitely want to get away from the leaf springs and go with some type of coil over system. Just a street cruiser that likes to take curves fast. Looking for opinions, Thanks
68 Camaro
For a street cruiser, you really can't go wrong either way. Having installed, driven and raced most of the popular 4 links and torque arms, I might lean towards a 4 link for packaging, if you want your car to sit low enough that ground clearance and exhaust could be an issue. I think the torque arm setups are more ideal for the track, and offer more range of adjustment for fine tuning, but unless you're driving on track, I don't think you'll be able to notice the performance benefit over a 4 link.
Matt
Flash68
07-16-2019, 03:02 PM
100% agree with Matt ^^
I have owned and driven both 4 links and torque arms too.
TCI Engineering
07-17-2019, 11:22 AM
This is our Sales Manager's '63 Nova. He was in our booth in Columbus. Before swapping to the T56 that is currently in the car he had a M21 with gear vendors in it. The only modification he made to the Torque Arm kit was removing the driveshaft loop.
https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2019/07/17/20140118_131852.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/3zdzw)
https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2019/07/17/20140118_150525.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/3zkTU)
https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2019/07/17/20140405_142937.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/3zswG)
https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2019/07/17/20140405_142930.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/3zUkk)
-J
c4racer2
07-17-2019, 12:38 PM
That stuff all looks right in the place where you would run the exhaust on a Camaro.
TCI Engineering
07-17-2019, 02:25 PM
That stuff all looks right in the place where you would run the exhaust on a Camaro.
The Camaro crossmembers tuck up closer to the floorboards at the bends. Evan's car has a full 3" exhaust and his car sits very low.
c4racer2
07-17-2019, 02:42 PM
The Camaro crossmembers tuck up closer to the floorboards at the bends. Evan's car has a full 3" exhaust and his car sits very low.
Can you post pics of the Camaro set-up with exhaust in place for reference?
that would be very helpful!
TCI Engineering
07-17-2019, 03:21 PM
Can you post pics of the Camaro set-up with exhaust in place for reference?
that would be very helpful!
Here are some customer supplied photos that we have in our database. I tried to stick with 3" for this discussion.
https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2019/07/17/photo.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/3NuiH)
https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2019/07/17/IMG_4987.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/3NBpe)
https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2019/07/17/photo17.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/3NHjD)
& here are last year's Super Chevy entrants, Chad Ryker & Efrain Diaz. Both of which have our full suspension and 3" Mangaflow exhausts. There are pics of the underbellies in the gallery.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/1904-chad-rykers-68-camaro-pro-touring-machine-you-could-drive-every-day#/
http://www.superchevy.com/features/1903-efrain-diazs-1969-camaro-ditched-restoration-favor-race-day-supremacy/
-J
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