Camaro X

[XcYZ]

I want to thank Mark for letting Jody, Jeff, Brent and I stop by his house and check out Camaro X in person this weekend. It's fantastic and everything I expected it to be. I have a ton of pics and video of it that I'll get online in the next few days. :thumbsup:


www.Lateral-g.net/stielow


http://www.lateral-g.net/temp/camaro_X.jpg

http://www.lateral-g.net/temp/camaro_X_dash.jpg

[trapin]

Scott...I didn't get a chance to say goodbye at the Pfaff Design party but I just wanted to say it was a pleasure to finally meet you and Jody and Brent. I hope Woodward met your expectations and you can make it out again next year. :)

[awr68]

Thanks Scott!! I've been waiting weeks to see the wheels...the car looks GREAT and I look forward to seeing the rest of the pics!!

Thanks again!!

[jimhamptons]

Who makes that instrument cluster?

[zbugger]

Who makes that instrument cluster?
Looks like a Racepak. http://www.racepak.com/ProdFrame.html Check for the Ultra Dash.

[McssGmachine]

Good job mark, I've always liked the look and performance of your Camaro's! :bow:

[Project_Gotham]

Sweet! Looks like he kept the original attena. I can't wait to see the rest of the pictures and the Video!!!!!!

[XcYZ]

Scott...I didn't get a chance to say goodbye at the Pfaff Design party but I just wanted to say it was a pleasure to finally meet you and Jody and Brent. I hope Woodward met your expectations and you can make it out again next year. :)

Pfaff's was rockin, that's for sure! It was great to finally get to meet you as well.

WDC was a blast. I can see where this might become an annual event. :thumbsup:

[Steve68]

I'm liking the white, GE frig white one of my favorite colors,

Mark builds some sweet cars,

more pics always help,

[Ricochet]

Scott...I didn't get a chance to say goodbye at the Pfaff Design party but I just wanted to say it was a pleasure to finally meet you and Jody and Brent. I hope Woodward met your expectations and you can make it out again next year. :)

Tony-

It was great to finally meet you in person. It's funny we all build these friendships on line and then to finally meet the people in person is great. I believe WDC be a annual thing for sure. Having Jeff chauffeur us around being our personal tour guide really made the trip also.

As far as Marks car. Pics do it no justice. It is so understated. So simple and to the point. Typical Stielow workmanship. Well thought out and excecuted perfectly.

Brent

[Jr]

To Scott or Jody,
How was the ride in the X? Can you guys give us an explaination?

The X is sitting just right!

[XcYZ]

The ride is something that I was very interested in since it has the quadra-link rear suspension and DSE coilover/control arm setup in the front. However, Mark is running Bilstein shocks that he's had custom valved, and I'm not sure how the dynamics of those compare to the Koni shocks that come with the DSE kit. Mark also opted for 175 lb/in rear springs with a rear sway bar.

We only drove a small 5 or 6 mile loop so it's hard to get a real feel for it, especially with the horrendous Michigan roads. There were a lot of (what I would call) square edge bumps. We didn't take any corners, it was primarily a cruise with some WOT action.

I have a lot more time in the Mule and that thing rides awesome. It's sorted out, has a firm and tight ride that wasn't harsh. It's very balanced. It would be interesting to have Mark compare the two, Mule vs. Camaro X.

[Derek69SS]

I must say I really like Steilow's build style... they all seem to have a nice stance and a clean look with tasteful wheels. He's one of the few well-known builders that doesn't try to go "over the top" with the looks, and keeps function over form :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

Hats off to Mark, I love it :hail: As I have with all of Mark's builds. He does top notch work and his taste is perfect in his builds. I can't wait to see the performance of the LS7. :thumbsup:

[rockdogz]

I want to thank Mark for letting Jody, Jeff, Brent and I stop by his house and check out Camaro X in person this weekend. It's fantastic and everything I expected it to be. I have a ton of pics and video of it that I'll get online in the next few days. :thumbsup:


Awesome... more pics! Maybe one every few hours? :_paranoid

[Diognes56]

Can't wait to see what this one can do :D . Have always loved Mark's builds :D .

David

[olds87]

That is a nice ride. :thumbsup:

Do any one know when there going to be a full feature in Hot Rod mag about the car?


James

[XcYZ]

Ok, here are a couple of short videos. Nothing spectacular, but you'll get a good idea how bitchin the stance is and how it sounds.

More pics coming soon. :thumbsup:

Video 1 (http://www.lateral-g.org/movies/temp/camaro_x2.wmv)

Video 2 (http://www.lateral-g.org/movies/temp/camaro_x.wmv)

http://www.lateral-g.net/temp/GMpoweredCamaroX.jpg

[mazspeed]

I'm curious on how long the build time was?

[BC69]

WOW! Those videos were cool, I am normally not a fan of digit gauges, but I liked that! Loved the blacked out wheels!! Jealous!



Thanks
Tim

[camcojb]

I'm curious on how long the build time was?

I believe Mark told me it was about one year. A lot of time gets used up on the body/paint.

Jody

[Jr]

Scott,
Great vids!

Another amazing Mark Stielow build :thumbsup:

What needs to be done to the front sub-frame to get these bilstein shocks to fit? Is this information that can be shared? :_paranoid

[Datsbad]

COOL CAR !!
I love it , white was my other color I was going to use. Everyone said NO WHITE IS TO PLAIN !!! Boy where they wrong.

But damn everyone has black wheels now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fatlife]

looks really nice in that second video, the previous pictures really didn't do it justice. Like I said before looks like a car that can actually be used so for that I give it a :thumbsup:

[awr68]

I love the Stielow built cars and how they all are just enough different to take on their own identity. You can see how he tries different things with each build...I like that!! I'm a less is more kinda guy so the clean look of his cars just does it for me!!

Great job Mark...you are by far my favorite builder!! :thumbsup:

[Datsbad]

I love the Stielow built cars and how they all are just enough different to take on their own identity. You can see how he tries different things with each build...I like that!! I'm a less is more kinda guy so the clean look of his cars just does it for me!!

Great job Mark...you are by far my favorite builder!! :thumbsup:


I agree, Thats why I stayed simple on mine! I like to simple look , no major body mods , just enough to set it apart but not all smoothed over . Got to keep the classic lines. Some people get out of touch with this aspect when doing a complete car .

I absolutely cant stand a car with smoothed door handles, no mirrors(all Foose cars) , no locks , flush glass, shaved drip rails , etc...... you get the point. I am referring to stock bodied Muscle, there are some exceptions in my book depending on the car . But hey what do I know, This is just my opinion !

[awr68]

Jason, Fuel is one of my favorites as well, and if I had $99k more in the bank it would be mine!! Got any work around the house that needs done!?! :D

I think the hardest part of customizing a car is knowing how to pay respect to the car for what it is and not loose the lines and feel of the car that got us interested in the body style in the first place....it way too easy to go to far!!! Right now I'm doing some changes to my dash, but I dont think I'm loosing the factory look (too much)...this takes crazy planning!! :yes:

[Stuart Adams]

Cool car. Like the color. Mark did you dyno the motor, or do any internal engine changes.

Thanks

[Streetking]

Sweet car! I really like the white with the blk rims.

SW

[XcYZ]

Mark's page is now online. :thumbsup:



www.Lateral-g.net/stielow





http://www.lateral-g.net/stielow/22.jpg (http://www.lateral-g.net/stielow)
http://www.lateral-g.net/stielow/21.jpg (http://www.lateral-g.net/stielow)

[zbugger]

I'm so disappointed in you.... You didn't take any detail shots at all. :P

I'm afraid to ask what that big block in the garage goes into though.

[Damn True]

Simplicity perfectly excecuted.

Tough to beat.

[Steve68]

Anybody got a ideas on the mufflers????

What was done to the motor, ie cam specs??

[trapin]

He left the motor stock.

[Payton King]

Did he use a stock harness for the LS7. If so, did the race pak intergrate with the stock harness?

what are the 3 ports for on the right side of the dash? and finanlly what is the digital gauge in the lower center of the dash that is red and what are the ports for next to it.

Any insight would help

[camcojb]

Did he use a stock harness for the LS7. If so, did the race pak intergrate with the stock harness?

what are the 3 ports for on the right side of the dash? and finanlly what is the digital gauge in the lower center of the dash that is red and what are the ports for next to it.

Any insight would help

I believe he used the MEFI4 computer with a custom harness. That is popular in the marine engines and more of a universal setup, plus he had data on tuning to start with from engineers at his work. The harness was likely custom, but not positive.

The digital gauge is an a/f meter, and the two round ports are 12V taps for a laptop or other accessory (I believe). The three ports on the right of the dash look like the a/c controller if I remember correctly; they're knobs not holes.

Jody

[Payton King]

Did you like the race pak set up?

[rwhite692]

It really has a very sanitary, unemotional, "clinical" feel to it. The blacked-out tail panel looks nice, really sets the rear of car off well and I like the wheels. I'm not too keen on the black painted headlight surrounds, but that's about the only criticism I have...An endura bumper up front would be a big improvement over the painted steel one, IMHO. Great looking car, Mark! :thumbsup:

[Ricochet]

I'm so disappointed in you.... You didn't take any detail shots at all. :P

I'm afraid to ask what that big block in the garage goes into though.


The big block is for Red Witch. That car has been on the back burner while getting this car together. He plans on getting back on it soon...

[Reckley]

Did he use a stock harness for the LS7. If so, did the race pak intergrate with the stock harness?

what are the 3 ports for on the right side of the dash? and finanlly what is the digital gauge in the lower center of the dash that is red and what are the ports for next to it.

Any insight would help

I asked Mark this exact question. He said he used a computer from UMI and it came with it's own harness which connects to the racepak nicely. He may have cusomtized some, but I'm not sure. I do know that it looks really cool inside the car while at idle.

Mike

[zbugger]

The big block is for Red Witch. That car has been on the back burner while getting this car together. He plans on getting back on it soon...
That's what I thought, but I didn't want to ask in fear of Charley's wrath. I have a feeling he misses that car.

[Bowtieracing]

Mark's page is now online. :thumbsup:


Great ! Thanks Scott for the feature!!! Is it typo or what but it said this cars has a DSE 5 link suspension ? Should it be 4 link ?

[XcYZ]

That's the term that Mark uses, so I just went with that. It's accurate if you think about it. :)

[Bowtieracing]

That's the term that Mark uses, so I just went with that. It's accurate if you think about it. :)

Yes i agree with you. Panhard bar actually is the 5th link :cool:

[rwhite692]

....and more links are better, after all. :D

[Damn True]

So does that make the Lateral-Dynamics system a 6-link?

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Looks good.....


-Paul

[XcYZ]

So does that make the Lateral-Dynamics system a 6-link?

Well, if you count the Panhard bar, it would be a 4 link. That should confuse some people. lol

[zbugger]

So does that make the Lateral-Dynamics system a 6-link?


Well, if you count the Panhard bar, it would be a 4 link. That should confuse some people. lol
Ummm.... Three link, plus the TWO links of the Watts link... I think that makes it a 5-link as well.

[Damn True]

Ummm.... Three link, plus the TWO links of the Watts link... I think that makes it a 5-link as well.

The watt's is made up of three moving parts, I'm calling it 6.

[zbugger]

The watt's is made up of three moving parts, I'm calling it 6.
I call it a pivot, which doesn't make it a link. At least not in my opinion. MARK!!!!! WE NEED AN ANSWER!!!!!!

[Damn True]

I call it a pivot, which doesn't make it a link. At least not in my opinion. MARK!!!!! WE NEED AN ANSWER!!!!!!

In either case it's link-a-licious!

[Stuart Adams]

It's got California Black Plates on it, hum!! :unibrow: :unibrow:

[zbugger]

It's got California Black Plates on it, hum!! :unibrow: :unibrow:
I noticed that too. I wonder who his project supplier is?????

[Stuart Adams]

Nice oil tank.

We need a "Charley sucks sign"!!

[Ummgawa]

I call it a pivot, which doesn't make it a link. At least not in my opinion. MARK!!!!! WE NEED AN ANSWER!!!!!!


You can't say Pivot without calling out the Pivot man...Trush.

[Damn True]

It's got California Black Plates on it, hum!! :unibrow: :unibrow:


I know! I wish mine still had the old black plates. I have no idea why my GP's got rid of them.

[XcYZ]

The watt's is made up of three moving parts, I'm calling it 6.

LOL, I totally spaced that out. You'd think I'd remember since I did Mark's website. :_paranoid

[Damn True]

LOL, I totally spaced that out. You'd think I'd remember since I did Mark's website. :_paranoid

20 lashes!

[Rybar]

Does anybody know if the car is minitubbed? And what size are the wheels/tires? Hard to tell in the pics.

[Steve1968LS2]

LOVE the car.. however I liked the wheels in the rendering more that the ones ultimatly used. Why the change?

Other than that I am dying to see the car in person. I love (what I can see of it) the packaging of the LS7 into the car and how/where they fit the oil tank.

Very cool! :thumbsup:

[Teetoe_Jones]

Ryan-

It is indeed mini tubbed with the DSE kit, he is running the 18x9/18x12 combo, with I think a 335 rear Michelin tire.

Steve-
Fikse just released this variation of the Profil 5S for racing, so it has some special features that Mark wanted. I like 'em.

Tyler

[Steve1968LS2]

Ryan-
Steve-
Fikse just released this variation of the Profil 5S for racing, so it has some special features that Mark wanted. I like 'em.

Tyler

I don't dislike them.. just like the rendered ones better :)

We need some performance data from that car.. I have this equipment.. lol

[fatlife]

No caqe/bar?? Did I miss something or is it not existent?

The car is really growing on me, it took some looking at to appreciate it. The blacked out tail and black wheels look great. The black center wheel thing was starting to get played out, but it looks just perfect on this car, very well executed. It would almost seem like people would like it just because stielow built it, but it is a very well done car IMO. Its nice to see something simple and meaningful for a change, instead of so many cars that get built for looks(whos not guilty of wanting your car to look good) At first it seemed too familiar to the mule, but now after looking at it, it just happens to be the same year/model built by the same builder and that is just his taste. Hope someone gets some good use out of it, like the Mule I would love to see some shots or hear about some action on the track/autocross!

BTW the ATS headers look killer! Wish I could afford to have something like that built, ground clearnace sucks with four 2" pipes stacked under the car.

[Damn True]

If you look closely you can see what looks to be a DSE 4-point bar in the back.


No caqe/bar?? Did I miss something or is it not existent?

The car is really growing on me, it took some looking at to appreciate it. The blacked out tail and black wheels look great. The black center wheel thing was starting to get played out, but it looks just perfect on this car, very well executed. It would almost seem like people would like it just because stielow built it, but it is a very well done car IMO. Its nice to see something simple and meaningful for a change, instead of so many cars that get built for looks(whos not guilty of wanting your car to look good) At first it seemed too familiar to the mule, but now after looking at it, it just happens to be the same year/model built by the same builder and that is just his taste. Hope someone gets some good use out of it, like the Mule I would love to see some shots or hear about some action on the track/autocross!

BTW the ATS headers look killer! Wish I could afford to have something like that built, ground clearnace sucks with four 2" pipes stacked under the car.

[awr68]

Scott thanks for all the pics! It was nice to see all the detail...I like the wheels!!

[Datsbad]

It nice to see a car come together so nice with just the right parts . Not over the top . Very cool car .

[awr68]

I guess the question is, will this one run The One Lap of America before it's set to Charley?? I'd like to see this one used at the track first!!

Does this car have an e-brake?

I find myself just staring at all these pics...I love the back to basics (performance) look, although we all know there is far more to the car than what you first see...

[XcYZ]

Does this car have an e-brake?

Yep, it has parking brakes in the rotor hats.

[awr68]

Yep, it has parking brakes in the rotor hats.

I didn't see a handle or foot lever. I though he might have used a Lokar handle again, but I don't see one.....

[XcYZ]

Maybe its not hooked up yet, but I remember Mark commenting on the parking brake, so I know the mechanicals are installed.

[shineym3]

Does anybody know who's parking brake was used?

I also noticed that the pictures of the car in its more 'original' state that at least on one of the quarters has been worked on replaced; was this replaced and anybody know who's quarters were used?

Any more video of that thing?