Project Intro: 68 Camaro "Cha Ching"

[Gmachine1911]

Looks great, very nice build!

Daniel

Thank You!

[califconstruct]

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Car looks sleek!.. love that engine bay. :cheers:

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[Gmachine1911]

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Car looks sleek!.. love that engine bay. :cheers:

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Thank You! You know you've arrived when your car's in a music video, though! Nice! :king:

[syborg tt]

Looks stunning

So I’m sitting here on vacation and I jumped on tapatalk to kill some time while my family is still sleeping. To say I have a love for 67-68 Camaro’s is an under statement as the first car I ever owned was a 67 Camaro that I bought and put in storage immediately because I didn’t tell my parents as I was only 18.

Somehow I clicked this thread again today and decided to start from the beginning. Reading your journey to this point was very touching and inspirational.

Thank you for sharing you story and the build of this car. One day I would like to see the car in person maybe go for a ride and then buy you dinner. Someplace cheap as I have a daughter going to college next year.

Ince again beautiful car and awesome story.

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[Gmachine1911]

Looks stunning

So I’m sitting here on vacation and I jumped on tapatalk to kill some time while my family is still sleeping. To say I have a love for 67-68 Camaro’s is an under statement as the first car I ever owned was a 67 Camaro that I bought and put in storage immediately because I didn’t tell my parents as I was only 18.

Somehow I clicked this thread again today and decided to start from the beginning. Reading your journey to this point was very touching and inspirational.

Thank you for sharing you story and the build of this car. One day I would like to see the car in person maybe go for a ride and then buy you dinner. Someplace cheap as I have a daughter going to college next year.

Ince again beautiful car and awesome story.

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Hey Marty - I appreciate the kind words and I'm certainly thankful that others find this thread inspirational...I can't think of any better compliment! Sounds like you were a renegade at 18...totally bold move to hide a 67 Camaro from your parents! I wanna hear more of that story:popcorn2:

Hopefully one day, our paths will cross and you're definitely welcome to a ride! Lucky for you, I'm a cheap date!

[Gmachine1911]

Here's some pics of the fire extinguisher mounted. Was gonna go with a 2.5lb unit until I realized it'd be way too big to fit where I wanted it so went for the 1.5lb'er instead.

[Gmachine1911]

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[Gmachine1911]

Just a random car pic. Been driving it around town every chance I get to make sure if something happens, I'm at least close to home. It's proven to be quite reliable and although it's not been driven numerous miles at highway speeds, it does get pretty good gas mileage, despite some spirited revs! I even managed to set off a parked car alarm as I drove down the main strip at 30 mph in 3rd gear, much to the relief of my 13 year old who's been giving me grief for swapping out the 427 BB for the LS.:cheers:

Went thru all my receipts the other day and made an Excel spread sheet of every part number, description, source, price and date...partly because I wanted to see what the total was at this point and partly because I wanted to have a comprehensive list of everything on the car.

I had decided that I wanted another car to build so I made a trip to Memphis to look at a 68 Camaro shell with a clean title and VIN tag, or so I was told. Long story short, the car was pretty clean, however, the guy's shop had removed the VIN tag and put it on his aftermarket body. The cowl tag was still on the car and as the conversation unfolded, that's when it became apparent that the shop had swapped the VIN tag and so that deal went down the drain with a wasted trip...too bad, really, as the current body had a lot going for it and his mom had purchased the car new in 68, he was just unwilling to give up the VIN tag.

On a happier note, I did get registered for the Hot Rod Power Tour today. Looking forward to it!

[hdduramaxman]

Such a killer build! :clap:




Corey

[Gmachine1911]

Such a killer build! :clap:




Corey

Most appreciated!

[bkswede]

Just stumbled across your build thread and read the entire thing this afternoon - amazing story, a great read and outstanding work! I’m working on a 63 Nova build myself (just started my build thread a few weeks ago), and our objectives are very similar. I’m definitely going to look into some of the parts that you’ve used - really like the Finch shifter and boot, the Recaros, and will also look into the custom harnesses you purchased. To this point, I’ve been considering the TMI Pro-Villain seats as I’ll likely use the new TMI molded door panels, but I may reconsider as those Recaros look so good. In any event, thanks for the great write up and the inspiration!


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[NickBurns]

Trans tunnel patch is welded in. I'm really happy with the end result! It seems like such a shame to go cuttin' up all that new sheet metal but if there's one fear I've gotten over, it's the fear of taking a saw, welder or grinder to this thing! Once you've had to drill a couple of holes in a $9,000 subframe, everything else pales in comparison!



I just drilled mine with a few tears for the Holley Blackheart Mounts to work


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[Gmachine1911]

I just drilled mine with a few tears for the Holley Blackheart Mounts to work


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I know, right! Once you're past that point you can drill a hole in just about anything!


Just stumbled across your build thread and read the entire thing this afternoon - amazing story, a great read and outstanding work! I’m working on a 63 Nova build myself (just started my build thread a few weeks ago), and our objectives are very similar. I’m definitely going to look into some of the parts that you’ve used - really like the Finch shifter and boot, the Recaros, and will also look into the custom harnesses you purchased. To this point, I’ve been considering the TMI Pro-Villain seats as I’ll likely use the new TMI molded door panels, but I may reconsider as those Recaros look so good. In any event, thanks for the great write up and the inspiration!


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Thank you! I truly appreciate the kind words and glad I can be an inspiration in the same way so many others on here have been to me. I've been following your build thread as well...what an amazing car you have and that combination of parts/drivetrain will make smiles for miles! I've always had a soft spot for early Chevy II's as my first car was a '66.
As far as the Recaros, if you go that route you won't be sorry. I bought mine from Northstar after having a fiasco with one of the primary vendors for Recaro on this site. They were great to deal with and got me my seats quick but you'd be wise to get them coming (especially at the pace you're moving) if you go that direction. Lead times are usually ugly but they're extremely comfy and worth the price tag IMO.
Keep up the great work and keep the updates coming. Happy to be of assistance in any way I can!

[NickBurns]

AAW Classic Update kit going in, ididit steering column fitment, hydraulic clutch installed and pedal modified for proper angle. I went back and forth on the wiring for the wiper motor. I wanted to integrate it into the AAW harness but didn't wanna run the wiper harness over to the fuse block. Instead I opted to run it thru the firewall at the back of the engine. Re-wrapped it in some better Painless Wiring classic wiring wrap. The woven material looks far better and cleaner than the cheap plastic stuff. All of the wiring except what's under the dash will get wrapped in the same stuff. Now to get the brake lines plumbed.



What kind of brake system did you go with? It doesn’t look like hydroboost or is don’t see the booster .... looks awesome and what pedals? Maybe I’m having a dumb moment....


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[Gmachine1911]

I went with Baer Brakes for everything. I had struggled so long in the past trying to get good brakes so I opted to go with one manufacturer exclusively in an effort to minimize the risk of problems. My setup is a manual Baer Remaster master cylinder with 15/16" bore, 6P 14" front brakes and SS4 12" rear brakes. I'm using the stock pedals and the Remaster adjustable prop valve. I haven't dialed the bias in totally yet but the brakes are really good. I was gonna go power brakes but I've always had manual so figured I'd give it a try since I'd already bought the Remaster parts. I like the feedback I get from the manual brakes as well.

[NickBurns]

I went with Baer Brakes for everything. I had struggled so long in the past trying to get good brakes so I opted to go with one manufacturer exclusively in an effort to minimize the risk of problems. My setup is a manual Baer Remaster master cylinder with 15/16" bore, 6P 14" front brakes and SS4 12" rear brakes. I'm using the stock pedals and the Remaster adjustable prop valve. I haven't dialed the bias in totally yet but the brakes are really good. I was gonna go power brakes but I've always had manual so figured I'd give it a try since I'd already bought the Remaster parts. I like the feedback I get from the manual brakes as well.



Ok so I am sane ! Thanks for the reply ... I went with the equivalent but Wilwood. I’m just trying to figure out what I want to do with the pedals. I did pick up a McLeod setup for the clutch. I’m using the stock clutch and pressure plate from GM since it’s the same one they use on the ZL1.



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[Gmachine1911]

Gotcha. I ended up staying with the stock pedals and figured as long as I felt like I was able to re-bush/modify them for the clutch MC without having any issues then I'd give it a shot. Worst case, I'd have to upgrade them. So far so good.

[67_camaroRS]

Any videos of how the car is sounding ?

[Gmachine1911]

Any videos of how the car is sounding ?

Yeah, I've got some but they won't post. I tried doing it thru YouTube but I'll have to bust out the laptop when I get time. It's going to Indy to get tuned on May 4th so I'll try to capture some video on the chassis dyno with my GoPro...my iPhone sound just cuts out instantaneously the second you hit the gas. I guess the speaker gets overloaded. I'm really happy with the Borla mufflers and glad I went 3" all the way.

[Gmachine1911]

Ok, so got my magnetic numbers in for the car. Wanted magnets b/c I'm not sure I'd wanna leave them on consistently. I love the look of the "race dress" but I also like the subtle, clean look. I went with silver as I thought it'd complement the car nicely and got some extra numbers in the event someone else is already running my first combo.

For the next topic of discussion, I'd like to hear some feedback from the audience. My plan is to add some vinyl contingency decals to the car in black or silver. I'm personally kinda leaning towards the black vinyl as it goes with the whole subtle theme. The stripe on the car is black and I like the fact that only people looking closely ever see it. Having seen the silver numbers on the car, I'm also now thinking of going with that color. The decals will be tasteful, not over-done and all one solid color but I'm curious what you guys think...let me know.

A buddy of mine has a computer program that he can add the decals to an uploaded pic of the car to help me see it before-hand so we'll see what it looks like either way. Thanks for the input!

[Tinker]

For the next topic of discussion, I'd like to hear some feedback from the audience. My plan is to add some vinyl contingency decals to the car in black or silver. I'm personally kinda leaning towards the black vinyl as it goes with the whole subtle theme. The stripe on the car is black and I like the fact that only people looking closely ever see it. Having seen the silver numbers on the car, I'm also now thinking of going with that color. The decals will be tasteful, not over-done and all one solid color but I'm curious what you guys think...let me know.

Just a thought, contingency decals are meant for advertising purposes. If you can barely see them, how will the paying sponsor feel about that? I am all about subtle and like the black idea, but the silver does look nice. Would you like to split the difference and maybe a charcoal that is slightly more visible?

[Gmachine1911]

Duly noted on the black. I'm not so worried about paid sponsorships as they're likely not to happen anyway. I've considered the charcoal color as well. We'll see, I go back and forth on the whole idea anyway. Thanks!

[rixtrix1]

Duly noted on the black. I'm not so worried about paid sponsorships as they're likely not to happen anyway. I've considered the charcoal color as well. We'll see, I go back and forth on the whole idea anyway. Thanks!

If you look at Lance Hamilton's Monte Carlo "Barney", the orangish decals really complement the car color while getting his point across. Would do the same for yours, I think, in either black or charcoal.

[Gmachine1911]

If you look at Lance Hamilton's Monte Carlo "Barney", the orangish decals really complement the car color while getting his point across. Would do the same for yours, I think, in either black or charcoal.

Rixtrix1, thanks for the input. I checked out Lance's ride and the orange really pops...such a nice ride. Part of me loves the race decor b/c I've always had a thing for the original Trans-Am cars with the meatball numbers and regalia and yet the other side likes the subtleness and understated "factory" appearance (as far as paint). I just need to find the balance!

[Gmachine1911]

Got the car tuned this week. I knew it ran rich but was smooth and strong. Ended up picking up another 80 rear wheel HP and I must say, Holy Crap! It's like another car. That thing pulls like a freight train:drive:

At the end of the day, I'm at 452hp and 426lb ft of torque at the rear wheels. Not the most powerful thing out there but definitely strong enough to cause trouble! I tried uploading video but no bueno...

[Gmachine1911]

Also snapped this shot of the underneath while it was in the air...

[Gmachine1911]

Ok, so here's a couple of videos I uploaded on YouTube of a couple of the dyno pulls... Let me know if the links don't work correctly.

https://youtu.be/CUpwuXv3b8s

https://youtu.be/1Uhm-MHwkdc

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[Gmachine1911]

Put all new glass in the car. Sourced it from Eckler's. All in all, everything fit well. I was dreading putting in the door and quarter windows but it actually went really smooth. Amazing what a difference glass can make!

[Gmachine1911]

Caught a show for a good cause at Ridetech this weekend as well...that's me and my oldest...couldn't help but sport my DSE hoodie!:poke:

[Gmachine1911]

So I ordered one of frankv11's cold air intake kits to take the place of the one I originally made for the car. The other one worked fine but needed a support brace and, most importantly, needed to be away from sucking hot air from behind the radiator. Frank's kit is really nice and he did a tremendous job getting my order turned around and out the door lightning fast. I wanted to have it in time to get it installed before HRPT so that obviously won't be a problem. Here's the initial mockup. Now I just need to get the tube pulled back out and painted before final assembly. This is one of the nicest kits I've seen for a first gen Camaro and well worth the money.

[ScotI]

Love this pic for some reason! This is the same place/position this thing would stay in for the next 6 months...to this very day, actually, although not for much longer but I'll get to that part later.

One thing I didn't mention yet was the importance of this build to me on an emotional level. As I said, I've had this car for 26 years...it's been wrecked by me, painted by me, disassembled more times than I care to count, stolen from my driveway by a couple of D-bags and totaled out while running from the cops. It's also been loved by me, hated by me and enjoyed by me, my wife and two young boys. But it was by necessity that I decided to turn this car into the car I'd always dreamed it would be. Shortly after my wife and I were engaged, she was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 25. After surgery and some treatment, we were able to move forward with life, got married, had two wonderful boys 11 months apart (that's a whole other story), and went about living. It was 7 years later that her cancer came back and had spread to her lungs, so again we went thru various treatments and therapies and we stayed positive and kept the faith and stayed focused on living. By age 37, it had spread to her brain and by age 38 she had won her battle and was resting in her eternal home.

I only mention this because I learned many things in those years we were together (20 in all)...many things about myself, about my faith in Christ and about how amazing and selfless a gift she was to me. Among those things I've learned and tried to instill in my boys is that at the end of this life, having watched my best friend take her last breaths, our legacy is the only thing we leave behind in this world that can continue to make an impact once we're gone. How we treat people, how we deal with people both personally and professionally is what we leave as a testament to our character.

So after being on the back burner for a long time, this project was born from a necessity to keep my mind focused on something productive as much as it was a desire to make it a project of bringing the boys and I together to build something we could enjoy while at the same time teaching them the same skills my Dad taught me...

I promise I won't rain on the parade again! But sometimes the back story is the main story!

I've followed this build since the first post. Seeing where it is now reminded me of this background history so I wanted to say congrats on the current status of the car.
Your efforts to include your boys is a great reminder to them that their Mom picked the right guy while also teaching them about true/great character. Great looking build!

[rixtrix1]

Rixtrix1, thanks for the input. I checked out Lance's ride and the orange really pops...such a nice ride. Part of me loves the race decor b/c I've always had a thing for the original Trans-Am cars with the meatball numbers and regalia and yet the other side likes the subtleness and understated "factory" appearance (as far as paint). I just need to find the balance!

Along this same vein, and as stated in other posts about contingency and "sponsors", sometimes one just wants to give a shout out to those companies whose products have worked for them. I'm sure if a sponsor wanted a specific logo on a vehicle, there might be some kind of contractual agreement in place.
Just some thoughts off the top of my head as I'm definitely not in a position to know, and doubt if my never finished Malibu will ever be worthy of such consideration. I've never attempted to talk to anyone with company decals on their car about it ( like the big QA1 decals on the back of Mills Robinson's Camaro) as I feel it's between them and the company. I try to concentrate on the build and how things were done on the cars.

[Spiffav8]

So I ordered one of frankv11's cold air intake kits to take the place of the one I originally made for the car. The other one worked fine but needed a support brace and, most importantly, needed to be away from sucking hot air from behind the radiator. Frank's kit is really nice and he did a tremendous job getting my order turned around and out the door lightning fast. I wanted to have it in time to get it installed before HRPT so that obviously won't be a problem. Here's the initial mockup. Now I just need to get the tube pulled back out and painted before final assembly. This is one of the nicest kits I've seen for a first gen Camaro and well worth the money.

Frank does awesome work and is such a great guy. Jealous you got yours installed before I did! LoL Looks super sharp!!

:captain:

[Gmachine1911]

I've followed this build since the first post. Seeing where it is now reminded me of this background history so I wanted to say congrats on the current status of the car.
Your efforts to include your boys is a great reminder to them that their Mom picked the right guy while also teaching them about true/great character. Great looking build!

ScotI - thanks for following my build! I truly appreciate the kind words and I know their Mom would be proud of the young men they're becoming. Keep tuning in!:D

Along this same vein, and as stated in other posts about contingency and "sponsors", sometimes one just wants to give a shout out to those companies whose products have worked for them. I'm sure if a sponsor wanted a specific logo on a vehicle, there might be some kind of contractual agreement in place.
Just some thoughts off the top of my head as I'm definitely not in a position to know, and doubt if my never finished Malibu will ever be worthy of such consideration. I've never attempted to talk to anyone with company decals on their car about it ( like the big QA1 decals on the back of Mills Robinson's Camaro) as I feel it's between them and the company. I try to concentrate on the build and how things were done on the cars.

Hey Ric - yeah, I definitely don't mind giving a shout out to the companies I've bought parts from that install and/or perform as advertised. All too often in this world bad news prevails so I always look for opportunities to pay compliments when I can...plus, I know I value honest opinions from others so I'm always willing to add input for anyone who's looking.
As for your Malibu, keep forward progress, it'll be yours and you'll know all the effort that went into it, even if no one else does. My car's certainly not sponsor-worthy either but I'll still have a ball with it! Some of the coolest cars I've been around would've never won "best paint" or "cleanest engine compartment"

Frank does awesome work and is such a great guy. Jealous you got yours installed before I did! LoL Looks super sharp!!

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Curtis - so true, Frank actually had to add 2" of tubing in the middle by the MAF sensor. He got that done, spotted me the anodized block off covers (which are totally awesome) AND still managed to get it in the mail within 1 day of receiving payment. On top of that, he actually refunded me some of my shipping b/c the actual cost to ship was less than originally estimated and I still got it within 2 days...from California to Indiana. I would've never known the difference on the shipping. There's no better feeling then when you pay a fair price, get a great product with great service and you know your business is appreciated! #merica����
I love your car btw, one of these days I hope to see it in person!

[Corey R.]

What finish do you think you will use on the tubing?

[Gmachine1911]

What finish do you think you will use on the tubing?

I'd love to have it anodized black but I've looked all over locally for someone who does it but no bueno. Frank said he stopped anodizing them b/c the areas where the welds are on the tubing discolored, so that makes me a little nervous. Long story short, since I need to get it done before Power Tour I'll probably just paint it.

[XLexusTech]

I'd love to have it anodized black but I've looked all over locally for someone who does it but no bueno. Frank said he stopped anodizing them b/c the areas where the welds are on the tubing discolored, so that makes me a little nervous. Long story short, since I need to get it done before Power Tour I'll probably just paint it.

Powder coat ..?

[Rolie1980]

I'd love to have it anodized black but I've looked all over locally for someone who does it but no bueno. Frank said he stopped anodizing them b/c the areas where the welds are on the tubing discolored, so that makes me a little nervous. Long story short, since I need to get it done before Power Tour I'll probably just paint it.



You may also consider using Cerakoat most gun shops do it and there are many colors to choose. Also turnaround should be relatively fast.


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[Gmachine1911]

Powder coat ..?

Powder coat would definitely be great but I'll need to do something quick wit Power Tour coming up. I can't do the bare aluminum!

[QUOTE=Rolie1980;693151]You may also consider using Cerakoat most gun shops do it and there are many colors to choose. Also turnaround should be relatively fast.

That's a cool idea, hadn't thought about that!

[XLexusTech]

:computer:Powder coat would definitely be great but I'll need to do something quick wit Power Tour coming up. I can't do the bare aluminum!

[QUOTE=Rolie1980;693151]You may also consider using Cerakoat most gun shops do it and there are many colors to choose. Also turnaround should be relatively fast.

That's a cool idea, hadn't thought about that!


So if you are willing to sand or peen it off after .. a cheap quick fix ... it’s really hard when it cures
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Specialty-12-oz-Appliance-Epoxy-Gloss-Black-Spray-Paint-7886830/100141519

[Gmachine1911]

Here's a video of one of my runs from Goodguys Columbus. Had a blast running the course and got some much needed seat time. I did have some front inner fender rubbing goin on in the turns which affected my desire to push hard in the turns...didn't wanna completely chew up any tires or damage anything. With that in mind, I made some calls about wider inner fenders and turns out Anvil had some blemished carbon inners (gloss finish was scratched) that I was able to get a good deal on. They'll be here Tuesday so I'm looking forward to getting those swapped before the Optima Drive event at NCM in a few weeks.

https://youtu.be/Ipo1ZnhghWo

[syborg tt]

Looks like it was fun.

We do however need to get a camera mount.

Here's a video of one of my runs from Goodguys Columbus. Had a blast running the course and got some much needed seat time. I did have some front inner fender rubbing goin on in the turns which affected my desire to push hard in the turns...didn't wanna completely chew up any tires or damage anything. With that in mind, I made some calls about wider inner fenders and turns out Anvil had some blemished carbon inners (gloss finish was scratched) that I was able to get a good deal on. They'll be here Tuesday so I'm looking forward to getting those swapped before the Optima Drive event at NCM in a few weeks.

https://youtu.be/Ipo1ZnhghWo

[Gmachine1911]

Looks like it was fun.

We do however need to get a camera mount.

Lol! Most definitely:drive:

[Gmachine1911]

So I got these beauty's from the man in the brown truck today. Gotta say, I'm quite impressed with the quality. Since they were "blemished" I figured they'd have noticeable flaws, however, there was only one visible scratch and it was under the fender once installed.

[Gmachine1911]

Managed to get the driver side in this evening...

[DWC]

Those do look really nice. They make your engine bay pop, imho.

Daniel

[Gmachine1911]

Those do look really nice. They make your engine bay pop, imho.

Daniel

Thank you! I think it adds some good contrast to the sea of black😀 It was hard finding any good pics of these inners anywhere. Especially any side by side photos of the Anvil carbon deep tubs vs the factory pieces so I thought I'd post up some pics...

[Gmachine1911]

Factory vs Anvil...

[FadedSS]

Wow- those inners are awesome! Thanks for the pics, they're really helpful as I've been debating about getting a set myself.

[DT69Cam]

How is the fit ?? Trimming required ?? Holes line up etc ?? Thx.

[Gmachine1911]

How is the fit ?? Trimming required ?? Holes line up etc ?? Thx.

How is the fit ?? Trimming required ?? Holes line up etc ?? Thx.

The fit's not bad. It's probably not much worse then repro parts but then again, you don't buy these parts expecting not to have to put forth some effort. The only holes you have to drill are the inner fender support brace holes and the holes for bolting it to the core support. I'd honestly rather they didn't drill any holes, especially the ones on top where it attaches to the inner structure of the front fenders. I did had to shave a little off the area where the rear of the passenger upper control arm pivots but otherwise I'm happy. I got the ECM and heater/AC lines secured and ready to mount the front fender.

I also ordered some new door hinges and latch mechanisms today as I've noticed the door hinges have some play and they've been re-bushed enough times I wanna start fresh (plus they're missing the detent arm and springs so it's a PITA the work on it with the doors open). I'll probably wait til I get those parts in this week to hang the front fender back on and at least save myself some time on one side. Either way, gotta have it back together for the Driveautox event at NCM this weekend.

[Gmachine1911]

Here's a good shot the shows the shape of the inners...

[Gmachine1911]

So I got the Anvil inner fenders installed and I must say, I quite happy with them. It's not a simple drop in but the overall fit is quite good. When I did the driver's side, I jumped the gun on thinking I had to re-drill some holes to get the alignment right but after moving to the passenger side, things went quite smooth. After completing that side, I went back to the driver's side with some newfound knowledge and readjusted everything and all the holes lined up quite nicely.

If I had to give someone advice on these I'd say to take your time and don't get in a rush to re-drill any holes. I did have to trim the inner opening at the back of the upper control arms on both side for clearance but nothing major. The additional clearance these things have at the outer wheel opening is crazy, they basically turn straight up from the mounting flange

I finished prepping it for the Drive Autox event tomorrow and took it for a spin. No craziness but with some hard 90° turns and softer shock settings, there's no rubbing so far. I'll know for sure after tomorrow! Here's a pic of the finished product. :knokwood:

[Gmachine1911]

https://youtu.be/OzOegLevPxg

https://youtu.be/eVVXY-GdkmM

Here's some footage from the Optima DriveAutoX event at NCM. Drove the car down 2.5 hrs, thrashed on it all day and drove it home. Happy to report there were no issues. The car is definitely more capable then the driver at this point but I'm learning quickly how much I can push and where the limitations are.

For anyone wondering, the DriveAutoX events offer excellent bang for your buck. They're cheap compared to other Optima events and the seat time at NCM was ridiculous! There were only 35 cars there and they start you while the previous car is finishing up so things move at a brisk pace. I lost track of how many runs I got, but it was aprox 13-14...that was just Saturday! The atmosphere was great and the focus was on having fun and driving. Everything was well organized as well and they had volunteers working the track so no one had to shag cones, etc. It was the perfect setup for someone like myself who needs seat time. If one is scheduled close to you, it's worth checking out!

[67_camaroRS]

More brake lines...I bought the Eastwood line flaring tool and I must say it does a great job. The stainless is tough as nails but makes for a good workout!
The goal was to keep the lines as symmetrical and close to the firewall as possible without interfering in the removal of any parts down the road. It's crazy how much time (and money) I've spent just searching for/buying small detail items like clips, clamps, etc. if anyone has a source, I need some 3/16" twin brake line clamps preferably aluminum that will hold two lines side by side. I've seen them all over but for some reason they've been avoiding me in my search.

Side note: like an idiot, I never did delete the wiring harness holder from the firewall. That's from all the back and forth on the wiper harness. Indecisiveness is the enemy of progress.


Quick question, What hydraulic system are you using? i remember you told me at first you used the American powertrain hydramax setup but then went with something else.

[Gmachine1911]

Quick question, What hydraulic system are you using? i remember you told me at first you used the American powertrain hydramax setup but then went with something else.

Yeah, my transmission kit came from American Powertrain but in retrospect, I should've piece-parted it out since I didn't end up using half of what I bought. I didn't use their crossmember, bought one from Bowler. Didn't use their clutch MC, used a newer Camaro GM unit and cut the rod to the proper length along with the DSE firewall mount. I ended up using one of Bowler's billet MC reservoirs instead of the one that came in my kit, etc. There's nothing wrong with their kit, I just didn't care for the generic appearance of some of the parts and felt like I could get stuff that looked more thought out.

[67_camaroRS]

Yeah, my transmission kit came from American Powertrain but in retrospect, I should've piece-parted it out since I didn't end up using half of what I bought. I didn't use their crossmember, bought one from Bowler. Didn't use their clutch MC, used a newer Camaro GM unit and cut the rod to the proper length along with the DSE firewall mount. I ended up using one of Bowler's billet MC reservoirs instead of the one that came in my kit, etc. There's nothing wrong with their kit, I just didn't care for the generic appearance of some of the parts and felt like I could get stuff that looked more thought out.


The little details are what matter the most. You definitely have an eye for it. Another question, the shifter you are using is that an 8, 10, or 12-inch shifter? Thanks

[Gmachine1911]

The little details are what matter the most. You definitely have an eye for it. Another question, the shifter you are using is that an 8, 10, or 12-inch shifter? Thanks

Well thank you! That's one good thing about doing things Johnny Cash style, you have plenty of time in between while you're saving up money for the next step to decide how you wanna do it and change around minor details as you go! The shifter is Finch's 8" stick...nice piece, too.

[Gmachine1911]

Had a great time at Holley LS Fest last weekend. I didn't realize there were limited spots for the autocross so I missed out on that, however, it was still a blast with perfect weather and great scenery. Couldn't help but snap a few shots...

[Gmachine1911]

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[Gmachine1911]

So hit up the home-town car show with my Dad this weekend. As you can see, he's got a lot more Power Tours under his belt then I do!

[Gmachine1911]

After several long road trips, it's become apparent that a center console was a much needed addition...for both storage and a need for cup holders! Since my interior is mostly stock appearing and I like the looks of the factory console, I wanted to go that route. I raised the transmission tunnel quite a bit to gain clearance for the T56 so with the help of some folks on here sending me console dimensions I was able to summarize that it'd be close enough I could probably make it fit.
Anyway, I ordered up a console kit which arrived yesterday and went to work. I actually didn't have to cut it as much as I expected and I'm happy with the fit and appearance. I still have to do something with the wood grain, either paint it black or thought about having the parts hydro dipped to look like carbon fiber. My question is, now that I've got storage, I'd love to integrate some cup holders somehow but there's just no good place to do it. It's not a big deal except during longer road trips so I thought about 3D printing an insert that'd drop in where the factory seat belt buckle holders would be that would hold a couple of drinks. Then, when parked or not needed, can be pulled out and stowed away. Anywho,here's a pic of it mocked up, just ignore the wood grain!

[Goosesdad]

Looks perfect!
I'm also trying to locate some cup holders, I like your idea of 3D printing some. If you are going that far and intend to only use them sometimes, what about doing individual ones and making them so they hang on to the side of the center console just in front of the front edge of the seat? Might be a way to make them so they flow nicely and be mostly out of the way of your legs. Might be easy to store 2 smaller parts than one big part, when not in use? Might be easier access to the cocktail in that location vs. the seatbelt spot?

I've sort of started my design and I'm trying to fit them in that location. Agreed, little real-estate here!

[Gmachine1911]

Looks perfect!
I'm also trying to locate some cup holders, I like your idea of 3D printing some. If you are going that far and intend to only use them sometimes, what about doing individual ones and making them so they hang on to the side of the center console just in front of the front edge of the seat? Might be a way to make them so they flow nicely and be mostly out of the way of your legs. Might be easy to store 2 smaller parts than one big part, when not in use? Might be easier access to the cocktail in that location vs. the seatbelt spot?

I've sort of started my design and I'm trying to fit them in that location. Agreed, little real-estate here!

Hey John, thanks for the input, I hadn't thought about that but I'm liking the sound of it! That would also allow me to still use the seatbelt holder area for cell phone storage while driving, too...something I didn't wanna give up for cup holders but hadn't worked out yet either. I'll roll that around in my head and try to come up with something. It reminds me of those cup holders my Dad had in his truck when I was a kid, you know, those cheap plastic ones that hung on the door panel between the glass! Maybe we can bring those back in style, a more refined version:cheers:

[eville]

I’ve seen guys recess a boat style stainless cup holder into the console lid. One guy cut foam that held a cup and placed it in the console.

Cup holder is the reason I like the newer consoles.

[Gmachine1911]

Finally got some spare time this weekend to get the console wrapped up. Let me just say, those console ash tray lid springs suck! Anyway, here it is assembled...

[Gmachine1911]

Here it is finally in the car...

[kevin_l]

Looking good!

[Gmachine1911]

Looking good!

Thanks, Kevin!

[Spiffav8]

Looks super clean!!

:captain:

[Highroller54]

Rear seat fabrication...

Hi Shane, just looked through your build thread from the beginning. Wow!
I have a couple questions that I hope you will help me with.
What kind of undercoating did you use? And how did you build the rear seat? Did you build off the factory metal frame or is it all foam? I need exactly what you have built for my 64 nova. I’m sure I can handle the foam shaping part but the rest I need a plan on lol Thanks! Chad.

[Dave Pratt]

I really like the look of that console.I'm not running one in my 69 but had been thinking about something along those lines.Yours looks great...nice work

[Gmachine1911]

Hi Shane, just looked through your build thread from the beginning. Wow!
I have a couple questions that I hope you will help me with.
What kind of undercoating did you use? And how did you build the rear seat? Did you build off the factory metal frame or is it all foam? I need exactly what you have built for my 64 nova. I’m sure I can handle the foam shaping part but the rest I need a plan on lol Thanks! Chad.

Hey Chad, no problem, glad to answer any questions you have. The coating I used is the Upol Raptorliner. It’s bedliner and sprays on very nicely. If I recall correctly, I sprayed it at about 80 psi which gave me a very fine texture but you can experiment with lower pressures to get the texture you want. I did use the rear seat frame but it’s been modified for mini tub clearance and then I took the car to Shane Lisle at Sewn Tight Interiors in Louisville, KY and he worked his magic to make it match the front Recaros. Per my request, he removed the springs from the rear seat back to make it much thinner then it was originally since I’m running a roll bar and still wanted to have the ability to use the rear seat for my teenage boys. It actually sits quite comfortable but the legroom is severely limited so It doesn’t see much use. The 67 Nova I’m building wont have a roll bar in it for that reason, so it’ll be more of a “family car”!

I really like the look of that console.I'm not running one in my 69 but had been thinking about something along those lines.Yours looks great...nice work

Thank you, Dave! I had never run a console before in all the years I’ve owned the car but after getting it on the road and doing longer road trips, I started to appreciate the need for having some extra space to keep my junk!

[Highroller54]

Awesome Shane, thank you!

[ADY]

Hey John, thanks for the input, I hadn't thought about that but I'm liking the sound of it! That would also allow me to still use the seatbelt holder area for cell phone storage while driving, too...something I didn't wanna give up for cup holders but hadn't worked out yet either. I'll roll that around in my head and try to come up with something. It reminds me of those cup holders my Dad had in his truck when I was a kid, you know, those cheap plastic ones that hung on the door panel between the glass! Maybe we can bring those back in style, a more refined version:cheers:

Missed your post, glad the measurements helped... this is the only cupholder setup I've found off the shelf for the console. Could easily be improved by putting hinges on it so it can be flipped up for easy access below:
https://www.camarocentral.com/1968_1969_Console_Mounted_Drink_Cup_Holder_p/con-886.htm

[Steve68]

Sugar Shane,

didn't know you were on here! got to page 26 of you build, I'll have to finish later, awesome car, great design,

[Gmachine1911]

Sugar Shane,

didn't know you were on here! got to page 26 of you build, I'll have to finish later, awesome car, great design,

Hey Steve, too funny! You never know where I’ll turn up:cool: Glad you’re enjoying the thread and thanks for tuning in!

[67_camaroRS]

Alright, got some time this evening to wrench on the car and made some good progress! Got several big items checked off my "to do" list for the weekend...
First, I got the grommets installed for my engine harness:


Correct me if I’m wrong that’s a DSE ac delete panel with a VA bulkhead ac connectors. How did you connect the lines from the evaporator to the bulk head?

[Gmachine1911]

Correct, I had to make custom lines from the evaporator to the bulkhead on the inside. It’s not easy but is time well spent if you wanna hide the lines as much as possible. You can make hardline patterns and send them to VA and they’ll custom bend and make the finished lines for you. The catch is that they’ll make them exactly how your template is so you wanna get it right.

[frankv11]

So I ordered one of frankv11's cold air intake kits to take the place of the one I originally made for the car. The other one worked fine but needed a support brace and, most importantly, needed to be away from sucking hot air from behind the radiator. Frank's kit is really nice and he did a tremendous job getting my order turned around and out the door lightning fast. I wanted to have it in time to get it installed before HRPT so that obviously won't be a problem. Here's the initial mockup. Now I just need to get the tube pulled back out and painted before final assembly. This is one of the nicest kits I've seen for a first gen Camaro and well worth the money.

Late to the party Shane but just saw your thread , great job on that install and thanks for the kind words.

[68454RS]

Hey John, thanks for the input, I hadn't thought about that but I'm liking the sound of it! That would also allow me to still use the seatbelt holder area for cell phone storage while driving, too...something I didn't wanna give up for cup holders but hadn't worked out yet either. I'll roll that around in my head and try to come up with something. It reminds me of those cup holders my Dad had in his truck when I was a kid, you know, those cheap plastic ones that hung on the door panel between the glass! Maybe we can bring those back in style, a more refined version:cheers:

I've read good things about the "Ledge" cup holders https://theledgecupholder.com/

Also the insert for the center console https://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-center-console-cup-holder-factory-console-1968-1969.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp33-348178-1&sc_intid=33-348178-1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyp7yBRCwARIsABfQsnTbPyJwR1m1FDOkuXDt YHJDzgPwE297pUmyu8tWya6xRJ5ndbFD9kgaAnabEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[jmac]

Love the car and the build documentation. No doubt it will help others. I've already wrote down the part numbers for the radiator hoses!

Have you looked in to a 5th gen center console? I think they look pretty good in our cars and am thinking of doing that for mine. Storage, cupholders, cigarette lighter for cell phone charger. I think they look good if done right!

[Gmachine1911]

I've read good things about the "Ledge" cup holders https://theledgecupholder.com/

Also the insert for the center console https://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-center-console-cup-holder-factory-console-1968-1969.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp33-348178-1&sc_intid=33-348178-1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyp7yBRCwARIsABfQsnTbPyJwR1m1FDOkuXDt YHJDzgPwE297pUmyu8tWya6xRJ5ndbFD9kgaAnabEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks for the links...I’ve seen the piece from Rick’s. I love how ledge has an installation video on their site! :popcorn2:

[Gmachine1911]

Love the car and the build documentation. No doubt it will help others. I've already wrote down the part numbers for the radiator hoses!

Have you looked in to a 5th gen center console? I think they look pretty good in our cars and am thinking of doing that for mine. Storage, cupholders, cigarette lighter for cell phone charger. I think they look good if done right!

Most appreciated, I’m glad it’s been a help! I actually looked really hard at the 5th gen consoles and had planned on using one but changed it up due to the real estate I had left over after raising the trans tunnel. I was also afraid it might look out of place given that the rest of my interior is basically in stock form, plus I like the classic look of the original console. Without a doubt if I ever change it up, the 5th gen console will definitely be my go to.

[CarlC]

Being a bit late to the party.....

I too want to keep the original flavor of the stock console but have a bit of modern as well.

As cheesy as they may seem, the add-on center console arm rest available from the resto houses are super nice to have. For track days/shows etc. it's very easy to just lift it off and set aside.

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1969/chevrolet/camaro/parts/hh6367rd.html

I made a mod to add a downward lip that indexes to the back edge of the stock seat belt holder hole. That way the armrest does not slide back under vigorous acelleration ;-)

[Gmachine1911]

Being a bit late to the party.....

I too want to keep the original flavor of the stock console but have a bit of modern as well.

As cheesy as they may seem, the add-on center console arm rest available from the resto houses are super nice to have. For track days/shows etc. it's very easy to just lift it off and set aside.

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1969/chevrolet/camaro/parts/hh6367rd.html

I made a mod to add a downward lip that indexes to the back edge of the stock seat belt holder hole. That way the armrest does not slide back under vigorous acelleration ;-)

Sounds like a good idea. That is one downfall (besides no cup holders) of the first gen consoles...that they don’t stick up high enough to offer much of an armrest while driving. I just think of it like high-heel shoes, there’s a sacrifice to be made! :cool:

Another one I looked at was the second gen Camaro console...I think that’s a relatively “neutral” design that can go well in different cars and yet offers some room for customization. I took measurements off the one in my Dad’s 79 but since I would’ve had to cut the top of it down to fit under my dash, not only would it be hard to make the cut area look factory again (because of how it’s made) but by cutting it, I’d have lost all the storage space in the front anyway. Since I was kinda leaning towards the factory 68 console anyway, it just gave me more reason to go that way.

[67_camaroRS]

After several long road trips, it's become apparent that a center console was a much needed addition...for both storage and a need for cup holders! Since my interior is mostly stock appearing and I like the looks of the factory console, I wanted to go that route. I raised the transmission tunnel quite a bit to gain clearance for the T56 so with the help of some folks on here sending me console dimensions I was able to summarize that it'd be close enough I could probably make it fit.
Anyway, I ordered up a console kit which arrived yesterday and went to work. I actually didn't have to cut it as much as I expected and I'm happy with the fit and appearance. I still have to do something with the wood grain, either paint it black or thought about having the parts hydro dipped to look like carbon fiber. My question is, now that I've got storage, I'd love to integrate some cup holders somehow but there's just no good place to do it. It's not a big deal except during longer road trips so I thought about 3D printing an insert that'd drop in where the factory seat belt buckle holders would be that would hold a couple of drinks. Then, when parked or not needed, can be pulled out and stowed away. Anywho,here's a pic of it mocked up, just ignore the wood grain!

Where did you get those floor mats?

[Gmachine1911]

Haven’t posted much recently but I did do a clutch upgrade on the Camaro this weekend. The American Powertrain clutch I got with my kit, although upgraded, wasn’t enough apparently and it went tits up and started slipping under hard acceleration. Decided to to what I should’ve done the first time and went with the Tilton ST-246 twin disc. Got to it installed and will do the final touches today. Probably the best tool I’ve bought recently is a Harbor Freight trans jack. Saved a lot of effort on my part!

I’ve also got a larger rear brake upgrade in the near future once the parts arrive. Thanks or looking!

[Spiffav8]

Nice upgrade!!

[Steve68]

Damn, I just hate junk clutches!!!

The worst one in the world is "Luk" absolute garbage! stock slipping, no grabbing spinning junk! Even grenaded the clutch plate in my 12' Jeep Rubicon, for some odd reason I had no clutch, took it apart, no material on one side of the plate, gone! name on it Luk, Nova same thing when I got it from the guy that built it, 6000 rpms just sit there and spin, Luk!!!


Glad you upgraded your upgrade!

[Steve68]

Damn, I just hate junk clutches!!!

The worst one in the world is "Luk" absolute garbage! stock slipping, no grabbing spinning junk! Even grenaded the clutch plate in my 12' Jeep Rubicon, for some odd reason I had no clutch, took it apart, no material on one side of the plate, gone! name on it Luk, Nova same thing when I got it from the guy that built it, 6000 rpms just sit there and spin, Luk!!!


Glad you upgraded your upgrade!

We could use more pictures there Shane!

[syborg tt]

We could use more pictures there Shane!

I agreeeeeee

[Gmachine1911]

We could use more pictures there Shane!

I agreeeeeee

Sorry, didn’t see your posts until today. Life got busy and I haven’t been on here until just recently. I only had the Camaro out a handful of times last year so I’ll have to owe you some pics but I appreciate the interest! TBH I had gotten pretty burned out after getting the 67 Nova project back. It was a combination of burnout and disappointment about a few of the roadblocks I had run in to. I basically piled all the parts inside the car (which is pretty much everything needed to finish it) and bought a cover for it and just pretended like it wasn’t there, lol. I knew if I attempted to work on it when my heart wasn’t in it, that I wouldn’t be happy with my results so I opted to let it ride until that “feeling” came back. It worked out well since work was busy, Momma’s in school finishing her doctorate and my boys are growing up way too fast…my oldest leaves for the Marine Corps in June and my youngest is planning on the Army (at least for now) the next year. That’ll really get you thinking about your life decisions right there.

Anyway, since I know Marty’s a bicycle fan, I thought I’d throw in a pic of my old BMX bike. Had gone thru it a few years ago for the boys to ride but the wear and tear was starting to show so I did it again and now it resides in the man cave. I even found one of my old number plates. Anyway, I’ve been making some plans on the Nova lately so as soon as wrestling season’s over with, I hope to post up some progress on it. Thanks for tuning in!

[syborg tt]

It worked out well since work was busy, Momma’s in school finishing her doctorate and my boys are growing up way too fast…my oldest leaves for the Marine Corps in June and my youngest is planning on the Army (at least for now) the next year. That’ll really get you thinking about your life decisions right there.

I married a Marine Colonel daughter and man is she tough.


Anyway, since I know Marty’s a bicycle fan, I thought I’d throw in a pic of my old BMX bike. Had gone thru it a few years ago for the boys to ride but the wear and tear was starting to show so I did it again and now it resides in the man cave. I even found one of my old number plates. Anyway, I’ve been making some plans on the Nova lately so as soon as wrestling season’s over with, I hope to post up some progress on it. Thanks for tuning in!

That is awesome and I wish I still had my old BMX bike. I do however have my very first real mountain bike (circa mid 90's), the funny thing is way back in the day I built the bike with a single ring up front, downhill rims and oversize downhill tires. Who new I would be a trendsetter on the bike back them. I just found them more comfortable and it made the bike handle so much better.

I should also mention I am kinda burned out with work, cars and just life so I to have taken a Camaro break.