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Scratch
03-03-2018, 10:46 PM
Just getting around to posting information on my project after spending a couple of years reading about all of the other projects on here. This one started as a bundle of docul (chromoly) tubing and a stack of boxes of repop sheetmetal.
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My goal is to make it as light as possible and keep the COG as low as possible. It is getting an ls7, a tko600, C4 corvette rear gear and c7 corvette suspension on the underside. The body is all of the AMD aluminum camaro parts sans the fenders, fenders are anvil carbon, doors are from ultra-carbon, and the rest is steel for now.
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Quick shot after tonights work. All of the interior sheet metal is 16ga aluminum.
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Sheck44
03-04-2018, 03:33 AM
Hey Scratch, love the build but have to ask ... why go to such lengths to build a serious car like this and then stick an old TKO600 in it ?
Cheers
Steve
Dave Pratt
03-04-2018, 04:09 AM
I never get tired of seeing builds like this.Looks like a beast of a frame.What wheels are those,they look killer
Scratch
03-04-2018, 06:03 AM
Scheck what else would you suggest? Hot rods have three pedals in my eyes so any auto is out. I've got a car with a t56. While it cruises great at 95 mph sixth gear is unnecessary. Also I got the engine and trans before I conceived the whole project. You could say the car is being built for the driveline.
Dave thanks I took the body out of my sons 1:12 camaro and made several scale frames out of brass rod and solder for prototypes. Definitely not cad designed or engineered so may fall apart the first time its it from the table! The wheels are c6 z06 wheels they've got pilot ss rubber on now.
rustomatic
03-04-2018, 08:42 AM
This looks like it has a very high level of fun potential so far! As for the TKO, most don't seem to realize how much lighter it is than a T56 . . .
On the note of lightness, .16 gauge sounds awfully difficult (and kind of heavy) for interior stuff. I think the NASCAR standard is like .22. I used .20, and it feels great, but there are lots of tubes supporting it (some of which are only about .065).
Here's to maintaining traction on the project!
Pretty cool project keep the updates coming.:popcorn2:
Che70velle
03-04-2018, 01:55 PM
Awesome. Love builds like this! Scratch, what’s your plans for the exhaust routing? Is this a street warrior, track car, mile runner?
Scratch
03-04-2018, 05:47 PM
Did you use 20ga for your floor too or just to skin the doors, close in the back etc.? I've started the floor but not too late to change if I know lighter will work.
Thanks for your input.
Scratch
03-04-2018, 05:58 PM
I'm going to have to put exhaust along the trans tunnel. Glad you brought that up, I've got corvette side pipe headers on it now, scrapping that plan. Need a header that stays as tight as possible to the scatter shield but can't go lower than the oil pan. Thought about stainless works c6. Welcome ideas on that. Street warrior/autocross is the intention
waynieZ
03-04-2018, 07:10 PM
Nice project, it's going to be interesting to watch.
rustomatic
03-05-2018, 04:20 PM
I'll throw a couple pics in here--the rest is in my build thread (1963 Falcon), I think. My whole interior is all 20 gauge, short of the plate where my masters bolt up. My firewalls (front and rear) and the tunnel have tubing structure (mostly .095, some .065, a few .120, depending on location/load potential), so there are no unsupported spans of sheet anywhere. I even made my last version of wheel tub extensions out of 20 gauge; the more it's welded and formed, the more rigid it gets. I (spot/tack) welded the snot out of the interior panels to whatever tubes were available--I took logic from modern car structure, as they advertise these days how the frequency of welds in unibody structures increases stiffness overall, kind of like racers have been doing forever. The car is still lighter than the C4 Corvette it once was.
Did you use 20ga for your floor too or just to skin the doors, close in the back etc.? I've started the floor but not too late to change if I know lighter will work.
Thanks for your input.
WSSix
03-05-2018, 05:36 PM
Welcome to the site! Looks like a killer build. Keep us posted. I love seeing this stuff come together.
Scratch
03-05-2018, 08:43 PM
Got it rust, you are talkin steel, I'm using aluminum. Not sure if it actually will be lighter in the end. I'm already thinking I should have done what you did. After comparing the weight of a square of 16ga al to that of 20ga steel plus the weight of the steel flange I need to rivet the aluminum to plus the rivets probably not much gain. Guess I'll rest easy knowing if my car sucks I can power park and polish my aluminum!!!
214Chevy
03-06-2018, 07:45 AM
Cool build...I'm tuned in.
Scratch
03-26-2018, 04:41 PM
I've found a few nights and rainy days to work on things the last couple of weeks. The frame has gotten an annoying amount of surface rust and I am feeling good enough about the design to finish weld most of it. So decided to strip it down and get it ready for paint. There will be a lot that gets ground back off for future fabrication but will also allow me to permanently attach stuff like firewall, roof, floors. Still need to do a better job of supporting the quarters and leave room for a fuel tank.http://lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65088&stc=1&d=1522106247http://lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65089&stc=1&d=1522106247
Had an x-frame between the a pillars. That was the most efficient use of tubing and low COG. It also was very close to the scatter shield making future engine removal tough. Also was going to interfere with toe room and pedals. The truss will make this all a lot simpler so....http://lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65090&stc=1&d=1522106610http://lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65091&stc=1&d=1522107308
Pulled the engine out last night
http://lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65092&stc=1&d=1522107474
rustomatic
03-27-2018, 09:33 AM
Now if you could only find who made that invisible paneling for Wonder Woman's jet . . .
jarhead
04-03-2018, 09:25 AM
cool build Scratch!
Scratch
08-05-2018, 11:04 PM
This is going to be kind of a lame update because it's been a long day but here is the progress. I started building the cowl and have been working back from there. So far I am fairly happy with the way the firewall and toe boards turned out but the man hours are excruciating. I got most of the bare metal primered and the inside of the roof and the roll cage that will be inaccessible is painted.
northwests
09-10-2018, 08:50 PM
Great build! looking forward to seeing this come together. Nice job
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