Do you still use the Forums as much as Facebook or Instagram for your PT discussions?

[MCB Matt]

We are looking for some input from the group here. I follow quite a few groups on Facebook. Many are commenting that they don't use the forums that much anymore and prefer the ease of using FB or IG.

I know some of you are hardcore PT.com guys but in general, do you see yourself shifting more and more to Social Media? Also, do you think it depends on your age? Are you not that into Social Media and feel more at home here on the forum?

Thanks for your input,
MCB

[Vegas69]

I've grown to despise Facebook.

Let me ask you this, would you let 300 people stop by your house every morning and take a deuce on your lawn. That's not far from what social media is. Every Tom, Dick and Harry can influence your life. Bottom line, I just don't like the influence. It's a glorified news channel and bitch fest. I know you can block people out and I have, but I don't think it's healthy for your attitude and perspective.

[Che70velle]

Personally, I don't Facebook, or IG. I come here everyday to get my fix. Most days I don't even post, just scroll through. I've developed a sense of family here, and if I don't check in, I feel like I've missed something. I'm 45 years old, if that matters to this discussion.

[HotRod68Camaro]

I'm 29. I think it depends on a lot. My job requires me to travel A LOT, so for me I'm on instagram more. I hate Facebook, really only have it to keep in touch with really old friends from time to time. When it comes down to it through, you can't top the forums. The discussions are easier to track in forum format than skipping to look at photos. I think that Instagram is huge for marketing and getting your name out, but at the end of the day i get on my laptop to really get all the information i need on the forums.

At least, that's what works for me.

[V8TV]

Facebook and IG are super easy, but they are no place for a thread. You cannot search well, and everyones topics are just piled on and you have to plow through them all. IMHO, nothing beats a forum for keeping an organized record of a build.

[214Chevy]

I don't and never have had FB. I love the whole layout and platform of the forums.

[Hydratech®]

I look at all of these other businesses with all the social media "like us on Fakebook" and all of this other (garbage) and won't touch it with a ten foot poll. I'm pushing 50, and think all of this social media "stuff" is "Millennial" based. We did a "Fakebook" page for a short moment, then it pissed me off with some "stupid bitchassness" and buh bye it went... Solidifying my thinking on the topic.

:lolhit:

[Flash68]

Facebook and IG are super easy, but they are no place for a thread. You cannot search well, and everyones topics are just piled on and you have to plow through them all. IMHO, nothing beats a forum for keeping an organized record of a build.

Yep! Until photobucket goes and throws a wrench in everything! :bang:

[Build-It-Break-it]

I've never been on or had Facebook,twitter,instagram,etc etc . I'm 36 if that matters and wouldn't even know where or what to do on it. I don't even watch the news or reality TV besides car shows. To much personal information is on Facebook etc.

I love the forums but the traffic now a Days seems minimal. I can't talk tho because I don't even have a build thread even tho I'm building a car.

[DBasher]

I like the forum better, I'm able to track conversations and builds without a lot of searching...better interaction. I have FB and I think 89 friends, some of those are shops and the rest are real friends that I have their numbers in my phone...I don't get the huge amount of "friends" unless you're promoting a business. Heck, I have friends (bad influences) on here that aren't FB friends and we're communicating mostly by text.

Todd, if you've got people dropping a deuce on your lawn every morning I'd suggest getting off FB or doing a real good housekeeping. It can be a decent place for communicating if you empty the trash.
:thumbsup:

[SSLance]

I was a long time hater of Facebook and finally gave in and have embraced. It is good at keeping up with those you don't see everyday but at the same time you might see some things you can't unsee, you have to filter accordingly or you'll go crazy.

I much prefer a forum for detailed info and interaction, the problem is the ever declining lack of interaction on most message boards. One message board I've been part of for 20 years recently just set up a private group on Facebook and told all its members to go there. It's cheaper, faster, easier to hang with them and traffic in the group is way up again, but it is horrible to find conversations more than a day old and absolutely no organization at all.

In short Facebook is great for visiting with others but horrible at what forums do best.

I'm 50 and have been message board active in many groups for over 20 years.

[ironworks]

I don't interact on the forums as much. I think its very niche marketing that can work but there is whole other HUGE world out there. I want to quit Facebook every week it seems but it is a necessary evil. I enjoy Instagram much more. You don't have to see what everyone you follow interacts with. Just what you wanna see.

I go thru forums and think Photobucket ruined the forums. I almost refuse to resign up with another company and its just easier to host my own pictures on my shop website. And the stuff I build for myself now days I just keep to my self.

This world is going the way of the mobile phone for everything. Its only going to get worse.

[Josh@Ridetech]

I'm a forum guy. If I'm looking for info on a specific part, I like being able to search and find that topic quickly. It seems as if there is more spot on knowledge on the forums as well. Seeing the person's post count and how the other members react to their posts lets me judge how much (or little) I trust that person's opinion. I'm not saying there aren't people on other social media sites that know what they're doing, I just get the more 1 on 1 feel from forums.

[Vegas69]

I like the forum better, I'm able to track conversations and builds without a lot of searching...better interaction. I have FB and I think 89 friends, some of those are shops and the rest are real friends that I have their numbers in my phone...I don't get the huge amount of "friends" unless you're promoting a business. Heck, I have friends (bad influences) on here that aren't FB friends and we're communicating mostly by text.

Todd, if you've got people dropping a deuce on your lawn every morning I'd suggest getting off FB or doing a real good housekeeping. It can be a decent place for communicating if you empty the trash.
:thumbsup:

I've cleaned house many times. I guess it comes down to the fact that I have little desire to know what people are doing every waking hour of their lives. All the news has a way of filtering back in or being shared as well. I think it's really bad for society from the negative news to the vast amount of comparison that comes natural. It's really a genius idea as humans naturally want validation which is a like on Facebook. Not to mention being able to nose into others lives.

With that being said, I do like to check in on family and close friends once in a while to see what they have been up to. The less time I spend on Facebook, the more I actually feel like CALLING them. Imagine that...:D

[MCB Matt]

Ok, here is another quick question, do you use the app for the forums or just log in from a phone browser?

I feel the forums are NOT as easy on a mobile device as they are on a desktop.

I have had customers in the past say they prefer email to PM because it's "hard to use"

Traffic is down, you are right. The Facebook groups are growing by the day and more and more groups are being formed. I frequent the CTS-V FB pages and they get a LOT of posts.

Yes, a lot are people giving other people crap... I see that on forums as well, maybe just not as often.

Matt

[dhutton]

You cannot effectively learn or reasearch anything on Facebook etc imho. Fine if you want to shoot the breeze but not much else. I use the forums a lot to learn and/or find solutions.

It’s a shame what Photobucket did to the forums. Karma is a bitch and I hope they go broke in record time. Did that sound like a Facebook post? LOL...

Don

[Ben@SpeedTech]

Agreed with both sides. From a business (and my personal) point of view to make real friends and be involved in the focused community and for the most part get decent reliable information on how to's you can't beat forums.

There are several disadvantages to social media- seeing what someone ate for dinner, all the retarded drama, all the people who run their mouths because they're hiding behind a device, the bad advice and incorrect info, blah blah blah. To market to masses and touch base with lots of folks plus be in touch with the younger crowd though, you can't beat social media. I had a great conversation with Tim King recently, lat-G's "social media" guy and he gets it, there are huge advantages to using it correctly.

Recently I was excited to fit 315s all around on my G-body wagon to help inspire and lead the way for these cars that are becoming more and more popular. I posted here and on another Pro Touring based forum plus 2 of the most popular G body forums. I got probably less than 10 responses of "I like it" nature from general PT fans fairly quick and then it was old news, it's not a big deal these days to see 315s on a car. I also copy and pasted it on about 6 FB G-Body pages, and there it was potentially exposed to over 15,000 people who likely always have FB open on their phones, a week later it's still getting likes, I've had a ton of comments, and several people asking how I did it and what suspension I had etc. Which one did a better job of showing with Speedtech suspension you can fit 315s on a G-Body?

In a nutshell although you have to limit it a bit, when I'm on social media I don't waste time with all the garbage, I just scroll past and get involved with what will help Speedtech or in my personal life what will promote my own car. It's a great marketing tool. When I wanna meet people that I might rub shoulders with at an event or get real advice from those that have gone before, I get on forums.

[Che70velle]

Matt, for question number 2, I always log in on my iPads. I own 4 of them, and there is always one close by. I own a desktop, that I use for my business only, and it does not have access to internet purposely. I have prolly logged in on my iPhone maybe three times ever. It's too small, and I can't see well these days.

As far as the Facebook discussion goes, I don't have an account. I don't want an account. If I want to talk to people I either call or text. For me, it's full of too much drama. I have lots of family that has an account, and they are always talking about how they can't believe this person did this or that, and I always say to them, stop logging back on....

I do follow a few people on instagram, but it's strictly performance automotive related, and I usually find a few minutes a day to check out the posts.

[Ketzer]

I'm very limited on FB.
I do really like IG.
Forums are my go to for anything car related.

[out2kayak]

I used to be on FB, but I closed things out. Yes, it was interesting, but the level of obnoxiousness from people was beyond what I could tolerate. As well, the way the leadership for FB is using the platform was not something that I could support. As such, I voted with my feet.

Never tried IG.

I've been on other social media, but was less than impressed.

I much prefer forums. They have a bit more substance to the conversation and the moderators weed out much of the OT obnoxiousness.

On other forums I'm on, they allow members to host the pictures on the forum. This fixes a big gap - where external image hosting services can at anytime change the terms and break the forum threads value. While it does cost more in terms of compute, network and storage, it ensures the threads (which is the product) viable.

Just a thought.

:cheers:

[Spiffav8]

You cannot effectively learn or research anything on Facebook etc imho. Fine if you want to shoot the breeze but not much else. I use the forums a lot to learn and/or find solutions.

Don

Agreed. I will add that Facebook and IG seem to be great tools attracting customers. I'd bet that only a small percentage of followers actually use the product and that even fewer will follow a link to a different website.

I gave up Facebook awhile ago and don't miss it at all. I am on IG, but it's limited. When I am looking for a product I do my research on it and then start shopping for the best price. It takes longer, but in the end it costs less and I end up with the right part the first time.

[fleet]

I'll be 62 next week and don't like the very alt-left controlled fakebook, but since my wife and daughter do post on there and tag me, I sign in occasionally. My sons were on it but aren't now.

Big on twitter for following sports real-time and some very good follows for vintage racing cars.

But twitter daily messes with conservatives' feeds etc. I would like an alternative to them.

On a bunch of forums, but lat-g is special as we know. Glad it wasn't sold to IB or the like.

I like the fact that a number of members here post on IG. But I dislike the portrait style viewing IG insists on (no fun on my mini iPad), plus it's owned by fb, so not on there much at all.

[SSLance]

I much prefer to interact on forums on my PC or my laptop, using a Chrome browser. I will interact on forums on my Android smartphone but still with a browser, not the apps. I can read posts pretty well but if I have to type anything longer than one or two short sentences, I prefer a keyboard over a phone.

Facebook is pretty smartphone friendly.

[JB400]

Being on a forum is just about as good as being out in the garage.

[FaBrycation]

Honestly, starting my Instagram was the best decision I ever made in terms of getting my name out there. I have made great friends with guys who do what I do every day and also made friends with guys who I never would have in normal circumstances.

The forum is also a great tool and I think that if you know how to market what you do they all will play a part. I have made great friend on Lat-g and again never would have under normal circumstances.

[57vette]

First... I'm old school, and by that I mean I've been hot-rodding since the '60's, have owned everything from a 27 T-Bucket to 4 Vettes, and numerous other performance vehicles. And yeah... I'm old (74+) but I haven't quite grown up yet LOL. Most of my career was spent in the ever-changing toy & game business, so I grew into technology. That said, I think FB and Forums both have their pros and cons.

I treat FB as a family and close friends messaging system, and I also enjoy checking out the political stuff. I think I have maybe 40 friends and 2/3rd are related! The rest are involved with our family or extended family in some special way. So while I belong to a few Camaro and Lightning SVT groups, I do not "friend" _anyone_ on those networks. I use those FB Automotive Groups to post pix, get some quick opinions, keep a finger on the pulse. I've bought & sold automotive parts on FB.

OTH, Forums seem to be the place where you can help, learn, buy, sell, trade, and sometimes even socialize. You can search and read a thread on a specific topic much easier on a forum, get much more detailed feedback on parts, techniques, and a lot more. I especially enjoy threads that are "How-To's" where some member has taken the time to document and explain with pictures, charts, and words, some mod that might seem trivial to some but could provide the "Ohhhhhh Yeah!" to others.

I don't mess with IG at all. Honestly speaking... I think Forums are the place to be for anything technical, and that applies to vendors as well as us common folk.-Mike

[GregWeld]

I've grown to despise Facebook.

Let me ask you this, would you let 300 people stop by your house every morning and take a deuce on your lawn. That's not far from what social media is. Every Tom, Dick and Harry can influence your life. Bottom line, I just don't like the influence. It's a glorified news channel and bitch fest. I know you can block people out and I have, but I don't think it's healthy for your attitude and perspective.



SPOT ON TODD!!!


I cancelled FaceyBook and Instagram accounts completely. Don't miss them one damn bit. No matter what you posted or said -- some jackass posted something negative or argumentative. If you said the sky is blue today -- someone posted that it was but only for 4 hours of the day... and therefore I was a liar and a scum and probably a Trump lover or some other nonsense.

[FlameBroiled]

SPOT ON TODD!!!


I cancelled FaceyBook and Instagram accounts completely. Don't miss them one damn bit.

I miss seeing your posts on FB of your house snowed in..... its such a beautiful place...its a shame not to share it with the world???

[rickpaw]

I use FB strictly to share photos and stay in touch with family. Most of my personal posts on FB are strictly private, or only my family can view them.

I really enjoy the forums, the posts are more relevant to the topics; and I sometimes go back to old project threads to see the builds. The photobucket thing really killed it for me though.

[GregWeld]

I miss seeing your posts on FB of your house snowed in..... its such a beautiful place...its a shame not to share it with the world???




Here ya go!

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[Vegas69]

SPOT ON TODD!!!


I cancelled FaceyBook and Instagram accounts completely. Don't miss them one damn bit. No matter what you posted or said -- some jackass posted something negative or argumentative. If you said the sky is blue today -- someone posted that it was but only for 4 hours of the day... and therefore I was a liar and a scum and probably a Trump lover or some other nonsense.

Thanks buddy.

Maybe people just irritate me. Or maybe it's their 9th post of the day about there new socks they just bought or to bitch and complain with absolutely NO chance of doing a damn thing about it. HA

I will still go on there once in a while to look up an old friend or family member to see what they have been up to. I try to stay off the news feed. They even call it the NEWS feed.

[TheJDMan]

I use my FB account for hosting pictures and keeping in touch with a few friends. Beyond that I have no use for FB or IC. That said, I can see where a business needs to have a broad online presence and FB and IC are where the people are. But there are effective FB pages and ones that are not so effective. These days I think a business needs to have a smart mix of FB, IC and forum exposure. This online media thing can be very time consuming for any business, but I think it is a necessary evil of the times.

[groovyjay]

I dont have the Book of Faces or a Gram of Insta. I've cut down the online time drastically in the past couple of years and seems like I've got so much more time time to work on other things in life. But still check on the forums to see what the peeps are up to.

[Dr G]

For me the transition of people away from forums is very sad. The period from say 2000 - 2010 was the Golden Age of technical information sharing. Then the smartphone came out and things went downhill.

You simply cannot share detailed technical information as well on a 3 inch screen as you can on something like 27" - 32". The fact that the world now gets most of its information through 3 inch screens will one day be seen as the start of the end of the "computer age" I feel. Smart phones are something different - gadgets really. And 90% of information consumed through these gadgets is pretty much useless in terms of learning anything new or interesting.

I used to try to promote engaging debates on Facebook, but slowly realized no one is really interested. They just want to post Memes and pics of their kids and pets. That's fine up to a point.

I've played with IG but it just does not light my fire. But I admittedly a 55 year old antisocial troglodyte 8^)

Bottom line - one can't beat a proper forum on a large-screen input device for learning things online.

[jarhead]

Facebook for family and some friends.

I subscribed to a couple of car forums I can't get to otherwise but I am getting fed up with because of reasons listed.

I am about to turn 62 and for some reason people tend to piss me off on F.B. I don't get into politics or other sh!t because of all the arguing, I just love cars. WTF is wrong with people, I know some of them wouldn't say it to my face but on F.B. they go all out.

I like the community here, and a Torino forum I belong too. I don't always reply here but half the time I am LMAO at you guys ribbing each other...

Joe

[Ripped]

I have to admit, that just recently I started visiting facebook more, but it's really just less than 20 people who are relatives or friends.

I find facebook, in some cases, appears to be about the 15 seconds of fame. "look at me now" "look at what I am doing/eating/where I am/my bling/etc."

Lots of people like that stuff

Quite interesting to hear now where a lot of the $$ invested in these types of things, really comes from.

On forums, except for a few strong ones, the majority have died off. There are a lot of strong personalities who trolled and flamed on some of the major forums I visited. They tend to PO many of the more "normal" people, so the forum's helpfulness gets devalued, and us "normal" people stop going.

All the more reason for strong forums to be well moderated.

If I enjoyed getting into arguments, that would be great, but it's no thrill.

anyway my 2 cents

[preston]

I've noticed the big dropoff in forum participation too, including this one. Sad, because so much good information was shared. I don't really get how you are supposed to interact about car tech on IG or FB. I mean its fine if you are following a particular person or build but how does that help you figure out how to find the right main seal for your oddball motor or best approach to painting raw metal.

I don't have a solution though, I just keep randomly poking around the remaining forums when I have time. I guess I need to do my part and provide more content as well. I'm always building cool stuff but I take crappy photos they always make my stuff look like junk.

I think what I miss the most though is the professional builds from the Roadster Shop and Ironworks etc. Those threads always thrilled me, much harder to find that stuff by poking around. The Ironworks web page in particular only has 2% of the photos of their projects. I don't know if they have an IG feed or something where there is more stuff. The RS web site is good but I still miss the individula therads and comments from the owner. Rad Rides used t have a great photo gallery but their site sucks now too.

I am not on FB and I hate going on there to look at stuff, there is so much crap streaming everywhere and dumb comments and nothing seems to really stay in a coherent stream

[slimjim]

I've noticed the big dropoff in forum participation too, including this one. Sad, because so much good information was shared. I don't really get how you are supposed to interact about car tech on IG or FB. I mean its fine if you are following a particular person or build but how does that help you figure out how to find the right main seal for your oddball motor or best approach to painting raw metal.

I don't have a solution though, I just keep randomly poking around the remaining forums when I have time. I guess I need to do my part and provide more content as well. I'm always building cool stuff but I take crappy photos they always make my stuff look like junk.

I think what I miss the most though is the professional builds from the Roadster Shop and Ironworks etc. Those threads always thrilled me, much harder to find that stuff by poking around. The Ironworks web page in particular only has 2% of the photos of their projects. I don't know if they have an IG feed or something where there is more stuff. The RS web site is good but I still miss the individula therads and comments from the owner. Rad Rides used t have a great photo gallery but their site sucks now too.

I am not on FB and I hate going on there to look at stuff, there is so much crap streaming everywhere and dumb comments and nothing seems to really stay in a coherent stream

You make a good point, we don't see a whole lot of the threads displaying the build threads from the top end shops. But we could certainly bring it back ourselves, start a thread specifically linking builds to their websites and then reposting the links when there's updates, I feel like I could do it relatively easy if it was what the people want.
Roadstershop and Detroit speed post a ridiculous amount of pictures on their sites weekly, they literally have social media and marketing staff in house now.

I have a heavy foot in social media so I feel like I keep up to date with most builds, but I don't think I see anything on the forums anymore.

hat off to Speedtech and a couple other shops who keep us informed here, that probably is the reason I now run their subframe.

There was only a very small number of cars kept a secret for SEMA this year, Detroit speed don't keep many secrets and roadstershop only hide the last month or two of their builds, ring brothers shared almost nothing on their AMX.
My thought is that they're dipping away from forums because social media is so much easier for mass coverage.

perhaps it's our job, the people of this thread, to bring it back

[ironworks]

I've noticed the big dropoff in forum participation too, including this one. Sad, because so much good information was shared. I don't really get how you are supposed to interact about car tech on IG or FB. I mean its fine if you are following a particular person or build but how does that help you figure out how to find the right main seal for your oddball motor or best approach to painting raw metal.

I don't have a solution though, I just keep randomly poking around the remaining forums when I have time. I guess I need to do my part and provide more content as well. I'm always building cool stuff but I take crappy photos they always make my stuff look like junk.

I think what I miss the most though is the professional builds from the Roadster Shop and Ironworks etc. Those threads always thrilled me, much harder to find that stuff by poking around. The Ironworks web page in particular only has 2% of the photos of their projects. I don't know if they have an IG feed or something where there is more stuff. The RS web site is good but I still miss the individula therads and comments from the owner. Rad Rides used t have a great photo gallery but their site sucks now too.

I am not on FB and I hate going on there to look at stuff, there is so much crap streaming everywhere and dumb comments and nothing seems to really stay in a coherent stream

I used to love the forums for the same reason. Seemed like you could see stuff before it made the website. I still try to keep our website uploaded on a regular basis. I'm not sure where your looking on our website, but we post a ton of pics every month. We are little behind on the October pics because there are so many. Here is link to the September pics for the Fairway 67 -

http://www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=552/category_id=233/mode=prod/prd552.htm

I think builders went away from the forum for a few reasons. The guy who just has to try and point out something in an incomplete project to just look cool. I remember the UCA mounts on 50/50 some guy was like the tabs are only single shear that's never gonna work. Yeah neither will the fact its all only Tacked welded together at this point.

For me posting as many pics on our website as I possibly can is what I try to do. And we upload updates every month if that car gets worked on that month. We are also trying to work on less cars at any given time so we can get cars done at a faster pace. So your going to see less pics across the board and more pics of just one project.

I also think builders are just into different things now days then building themselves a pro touring car. I have desert race car I'm building and I ride my Mountain bike 50 miles a week. So I look on those forums more.

People are rude in General and I think it turns people off from alot of social media. I hate facebook, but think its a necessary evil for the world we live in. Instagram is alot more interesting but doesn't give much tech with out looking at alot of pictures. Our shops main focus is our website for content then Instagram. But the Instagram pics cross over to Facebook.

[preston]

Rodger are all those photos contained in your normal "photo gallery" of finished and under construction projects ? Because those pages were what I was referring to as being lite on photos -the link you posted I'm not really seeing how I go to your site and see "latest photos" or anything like that. What am I missing ? (or do those photos just end up under a particular project and you just have t keep checking back ? )

[ironworks]

Rodger are all those photos contained in your normal "photo gallery" of finished and under construction projects ? Because those pages were what I was referring to as being lite on photos -the link you posted I'm not really seeing how I go to your site and see "latest photos" or anything like that. What am I missing ? (or do those photos just end up under a particular project and you just have t keep checking back ? )

It seems pretty clear to me

http://www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=232/mode=cat/cat232.htm

[Build-It-Break-it]

I think the professional car builders get put off from forums by all the questions people ask on top of critiquing their work (if it's negative) . Its easier to just show your work on Instagram etc and get " # cool build" with no questions asked and show off your talent.

I love seeing the pro builds but when I see 6 questions that follow the builders posts like Mark Stielow , Ironworks etc I just shake my head. Those are car builders and car guys but to be overwhelmed with questions every time they get on the forums would be enough for me to stop posting on the forums to.

When I like something they do I try to do as much research as possible before bothering people.

There's a lot of shops that use to post on here that I haven't seen in awhile like JCG and Ironworks etc. Their build updates where always exciting to see and easy to follow and subscribe to on this forum.

[hotrodfuelhose]

We are looking for some input from the group here. I follow quite a few groups on Facebook. Many are commenting that they don't use the forums that much anymore and prefer the ease of using FB or IG.

I know some of you are hardcore PT.com guys but in general, do you see yourself shifting more and more to Social Media? Also, do you think it depends on your age? Are you not that into Social Media and feel more at home here on the forum?

Thanks for your input,
MCB

Well Matt;

I PM'd you and we had a good conversation on the truck forums, since then I can tell you that my forum experience has been much better on lateral-g and 67-72chevytrucks for sales than I have experienced from what I now call the "big guys" it seems like when big companies buy out the forums the engagement of users seriously decreases at least on the vendor side. I currently am a sponsor on hotrodders and yellow bullet both owned by a big company but as for vendors on there it's me and a very small selection of companies that never post. It seems to have pushed the users away.

When you compare the cost benefit to facebook it's a huge difference. Facebook groups have zero cost (for now) and have delivered a ton more customers then I see from the Big Guys forums. I think I have learned as a small business with a really small product selection stick with the little guy forums lateral-g being one and the truck forum being the other.

While I am here. Lateral-g thanks for the support so far.

Justin

[nvawgn]

what i don't like about forums is people always say "use the search function",
there are so many un pertinent threads to read thru so if u have an answer or a link please post and make it easy for others. a friendly forum is a forum that people will participate in...

[hotrodfuelhose]

what i don't like about forums is people always say "use the search function",
there are so many un pertinent threads to read thru so if u have an answer or a link please post and make it easy for others. a friendly forum is a forum that people will participate in...

I find it the same in facebook groups, instead of people saying search they say 'read the pinned post"

[michics]

I use the forums. I don't use instagram at all and facebook a little. But I'm old and don't get the draw of facebook. :hairpullout:

[hotrodfuelhose]

I use the forums. I don't use instagram at all and facebook a little. But I'm old and don't get the draw of facebook. :hairpullout:

I started using Instagram just from a business perspective, I keep trying to go on my PC. Apparently you can't post pictures from your PC only on your phone. Stupid technology.

I should elaborate here - I took computer engineering and can code and do all kinds of stuff but still find Instagram complicated... And Snap Chat - I can't figure that one out...... I'm only 31 what the heck is going on.