LS3 FOX Mustang track car

[Flash68]

Long story short ... it's not typical Lateral G spec, but it's got the spec LS swap. :D

Right place, right time, right body, right safety parts, and the right engine.

Bought for pennies on the dollar for what it cost to put together. Know all the local builders/installers of the car and its parts.

Got sick of watching all my buddies have fun at Sonoma and Thunderhill and just being a spectator.

Untested and untuned in its current configuration I shook it down at the Shelby Club Mini Nats last month.

Great parts list. Cortex and Griggs suspension. Stoptech front brakes. Top notch roll cage. Maier wide body and front end pieces. Custom splitter and G Stream wing. And to top it off a Turnkey Engines LS3. I don't think I would buy a Fox without a GM engine in it. :)

Sonoma was a blast and the only carnage was 5 splitter rods which killed 2 of my 5 sessions but

Good power. Light weight. Aero. This thing is a damn rocket. It's been awhile .. so if the driver can catch up to the car's potential we might have something here.

More to come...

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Znv4HNQ/0/08d69873/XL/i-Znv4HNQ-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-Znv4HNQ/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-C3XTWtk/0/883978eb/XL/i-C3XTWtk-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-C3XTWtk/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SK2C8Bw/0/6ad71d06/L/i-SK2C8Bw-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NC344gx/0/b10f580a/L/i-NC344gx-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-NC344gx/A)

[glassman]

Dude. Win. :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

bZCcWt1h4dE

[Vegas69]

Glad I knew you when you were cool. :lol:

[Flash68]

:lol: D!CK.... lemme guess, you voted for the Vette again?




Skip FTW !

[Vegas69]

I'm all for it. It gets you out on the track for a small investment. That equals fun to me. Do me a favor and blow the doors off you know who. :lol:

[SSLance]

Nice!! I'd track it... Any interior pics?

[FETorino]

What the hell took you so long?



https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NC344gx/0/b10f580a/L/i-NC344gx-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-NC344gx/A)

Dam that's light. I wish I could shed 400 lbs off AO and get to that weight.

Low weight, good brakes, lots of tire, lots of hp, proven AIX components and legit aero there doesn't seem to be any excuse to not be fast.

Enjoy.

[WSSix]

Very cool, Dave. Have fun with it!

[Track Junky]

Nice introduction Dave. Appears to have serious potential.

[Ron in SoCal]

Welcome back DG :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Do me a favor and blow the doors off you know who. :lol:

Which one? :stirthepot:

Nice!! I'd track it... Any interior pics?

Here is a one a "friend" took at Sonoma last month :D

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-nBCfMrW/0/b7d82beb/XL/i-nBCfMrW-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-nBCfMrW/A)

Nice Ultra Shield full containment seat that fits me pretty well.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8LZ35Qr/1/bb6297c2/X3/i-8LZ35Qr-X3.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-8LZ35Qr/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DXjTstj/0/e3627fcb/XL/i-DXjTstj-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-DXjTstj/A)

And the LS3 -there is an accusump as well

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vBTFqJF/0/2d3dd8be/XL/i-vBTFqJF-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-vBTFqJF/A)

I had planned on bringing this upgraded license plate placard to the Shelby event (90% Mustangs) but dangit I forgot to

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9XJFRgB/0/5fd32fdd/XL/i-9XJFRgB-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-9XJFRgB/A)

[SSLance]

#Allbusiness

#Whereispassengerseat

:D

[Matt@BOS]

Wake me up when you buy real tires for it.

[Flash68]

#Allbusiness

#Whereispassengerseat

:D

It actually came with a very nice Sparco EVO passenger seat installed. But no belts for it so I popped it out and mounted the Traqmate box I'd had for the Camaro right in that spot. I'd like to put it back in at some point.

Wake me up when you buy real tires for it.

Ok I will swap on the A7 scrubs just for you.. are you gonna swap out the USCA spec tires then and bring it? :D

[DBasher]

At least the pictures make it LOOK fast....:D

[Vegas69]

[QUOTE=Flash68;665059]Which one? :stirthepot:

You know, the one with the Mustang and the big mouth. :gitrdun:

[Flash68]

At least the pictures make it LOOK fast....:D

Well I got that goin for me. :getout:

[QUOTE=Flash68;665059]Which one? :stirthepot:

You know, the one with the Mustang and the big mouth. :gitrdun:

Again, which one? :lol:

[FETorino]

Again, which one? :lol:

The Mustang that's faster than you. :popcorn2:

:guns:

[GregWeld]

[QUOTE=Flash68;665092]



The Mustang that's faster than you. :popcorn2:

:guns:



That would be both of them.... and the "big mouth" is from the guy with no car, and ran a couple autocrosses, and maybe a road course, about a decade ago in a street car.

[Flash68]

Here we go....

I remember the old Greg when he would say I am here at the track just for fun and don't care what my times are.... :headspin: :popcorn2:

[GregWeld]

Here we go....

I remember the old Greg when he would say I am here at the track just for fun and don't care what my times are.... :headspin: :popcorn2:



That's still a fact -- unless someone wants to be a Gaetano

[Flash68]

The Mustang that's faster than you. :popcorn2:

:guns:

On Sutton's stop watch or a transponder? :lol:

[mdprovee]

Congrats Dave, that is pretty cool!!

[Vegas69]

Well I got that goin for me. :getout:

[QUOTE=Vegas69;665082]

Again, which one? :lol:

I was hoping you would catch on...:lol:

[Vegas69]

[QUOTE=FETorino;665093]



That would be both of them.... and the "big mouth" is from the guy with no car, and ran a couple autocrosses, and maybe a road course, about a decade ago in a street car.

Easy there tiger, I'm just poking some fun at you and everybody else every chance I get.

[GregWeld]

[QUOTE=GregWeld;665095]

Easy there tiger, I'm just poking some fun at you and everybody else every chance I get.

Then say something funny -- "fun" is one thing -- just being a smart ass is another. Lest it's just an "ego" exercise - and if you try to climb someone else's back to boost your ego you just piss people off. Constructive comments -- constructive criticism (provided the comments are supported by someone that's actually doing, or knowledgeable, instead of just watching) is welcome. I get my ass handed to me every time I come off track by Sutton.... But he actually knows what he's talking about. He's not trying to be a keyboard warrior.

It's just like the comments about the lap times. You just look stupid if you don't actually know what you're talking about.

[Vegas69]

I have no desire to get into a pissing match with you. I've clearly crossed the line with you and I'll stay away from your posts moving forward.

[Flash68]

Of course I am not as fast as Greg right now (driver or car) but that is perfectly fine. I shouldn't be either with all the seat time and hours and cubic dollars of Sutton development. :)

And it doesn't matter one bit. I had a blast ripping around in this car at Sonoma. So blessed that it is my home track at only 1 hour away. If only more of the Shelby Club participants didn't think they were running Nascar. :wacko: I will be trying out some other local groups as there are many.

Greg is a very capable driver I have come to find out. Up until recently he didn't give himself very much credit. :lol:

Greg is gonna me a MONSTER in the 70 Stang.....

[DBasher]

[QUOTE=Flash68;665059]

Here is a one a "friend" took at Sonoma last month :D

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-nBCfMrW/0/b7d82beb/XL/i-nBCfMrW-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-nBCfMrW/A)


And the LS3 -there is an accusump as well

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vBTFqJF/0/2d3dd8be/XL/i-vBTFqJF-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-vBTFqJF/A)

I thought we had moved past the "friend" stage, I'm your #1 fan!
Don't forget the list of "to do's" before heading out on track...Greg's buddy Andy had it taped to his steering wheel.
Ignition
Fans
ACCUSUMP
....you get it.

Did you ever get the details on the motor?

[fleetus macmullitz]

https://s20.postimg.org/8jyo6sg7x/IMG_9034.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


:P

[Flash68]

^^ Ron Schwarz is a legend.

And I already have Rob's Christmas present picked out.

http://i64.tinypic.com/egwzdl.jpg

[FETorino]

On Sutton's stop watch or a transponder? :lol:

How about when on track at the same time? I'm pretty sure at some point you will be able to drive that car to its potential and then the standings will get shuffled.

For now you have to settle for beating Red Vett's and move up to Mustangs. :stirthepot:

[GregWeld]

^^ Ron Schwarz is a legend.

And I already have Rob's Christmas present picked out.

http://i64.tinypic.com/egwzdl.jpg





So perfect!!!! 😂

[FETorino]

^^ Ron Schwarz is a legend.

And I already have Rob's Christmas present picked out.

http://i64.tinypic.com/egwzdl.jpg

Once you beat me I'll promise to wear it.

[GregWeld]

Of course I am not as fast as Greg right now (driver or car) but that is perfectly fine. I shouldn't be either with all the seat time and hours and cubic dollars of Sutton development. :)

And it doesn't matter one bit. I had a blast ripping around in this car at Sonoma. So blessed that it is my home track at only 1 hour away. If only more of the Shelby Club participants didn't think they were running Nascar. :wacko: I will be trying out some other local groups as there are many.

Greg is a very capable driver I have come to find out. Up until recently he didn't give himself very much credit. :lol:

Greg is gonna me a MONSTER in the 70 Stang.....



THAT is the point I wish everyone that does this stuff would get. This is not spec class racing, where it's all about the driver. These cars are all completely different.

Go out -- drive to your ability (at the time) -- and enjoy the entire process -- fixing -- learning -- dicing -- dreaming -- and spending time with your buddies.

I'm so impressed with Rob's driving -- because he's running with me despite being down 200+ HP.... I'm not saying that I'm fast so he must be good.... I'm saying that the two cars are a mile apart HP wise --- so he's making up time in the corners and elsewhere despite me being able to out drag race him in the straights. The cars are a mile apart - I have HP - He has aero - he has some serious talent and it shows. A little more seat time and some suspension tweaks - and I'll be following him around. THE KEY is that we have a blast. Not another single thing matters.

The Porsche guy didn't come up to us and say how fast he normally is -- or was -- or that his car is this and he's all that...... He came up to us excited about having had so much fun! Period. His wife was excited because she saw that we were having a blast. Anyone that's done this knows what I'm talking about. It's not about the size of your balls.

I HOPE that Daves' new car works out and he gets some seat time in the car.... figures out what He needs to do, or what the car needs (maybe nothing) and he finds enough days to get out on track. Well -- not too many -- I don't want him running 1:59's too soon.... I got to get that new car built and quick!!! LOL

[Flash68]

-- I don't want him running 1:59's too soon.... I got to get that new car built and quick!!! LOL

Sorry pal. Had to start somewhere. I'll take it.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9pHtmG6/0/2103cac4/XL/i-9pHtmG6-XL.png (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-9pHtmG6/A)

[GregWeld]

Sorry pal. Had to start somewhere. I'll take it.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9pHtmG6/0/2103cac4/XL/i-9pHtmG6-XL.png (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-9pHtmG6/A)



I was like HOLY CRAP --- then realized that was SONOMA ---- I'm talking about Thunderhill and running that!! WHEW - what a relief!! LOL


I'm calling Sutton right now -- I might need 850HP !!

[Flash68]

LOL.. That's hilarious.

You might not remember it was so many years ago... first time... new car... new track... Sonoma.... pretty intimidating! And add 45 cars per group with the Shelby Club... there is a LOT going on....

my favorite part of the weekend (and when I knew sh!t was REAL) was the red plus and green drivers meeting.... nearly 100 guys... they ask for a show of hands of who has NOT driven the track ..... no one raises their hand. LOL. Well I sure as hell was not going to be the only one raising my hand in there. :lol:

And then it was "here we go".... I just got giddy thinking back on that.

[Flash68]

[QUOTE=Flash68;665059]

Here is a one a "friend" took at Sonoma last month :D




And the LS3 -there is an accusump as well


I thought we had moved past the "friend" stage, I'm your #1 fan!
Don't forget the list of "to do's" before heading out on track...Greg's buddy Andy had it taped to his steering wheel.
Ignition
Fans
ACCUSUMP
....you get it.

Did you ever get the details on the motor?

Hey Bash, I missed this. Yes I think we did graduate didn't we? :grouphug:

I did not get the details... John Griggs was/is looking for them... so all I know is LS3 with some kind of cam. It sounds healthy!

Yes the checklist was pretty much a fail at any given time that day. :lol:

[rustomatic]

Good on you for finally putting this up, Dave. Participation is everything, so long as what you're participating in is not so boring that you start having conversations with your passenger going full throttle around Thunderhill (what happens in cop car).

Now that I've said this, I can say that I've been doing my best to ignore my junk for a little while here, and you punks keep getting me all excited again . . .

Try not to overheat the thing again. My kart likes this so little that it blew its stupid little head gasket. My garage is mechanically desperate right now.

Oh, and what's with the Swiss cheese lightening efforts around all of that structural sheetmetal under the hood? The Boss 302 toughening guide suggests doing the exact opposite (looks like what they used to do to kids' BMX bikes in the old days for racing) . . .:newbie:

[GregWeld]

Good on you for finally putting this up, Dave. Participation is everything, so long as what you're participating in is not so boring that you start having conversations with your passenger going full throttle around Thunderhill (what happens in cop car).

Now that I've said this, I can say that I've been doing my best to ignore my junk for a little while here, and you punks keep getting me all excited again . . .

Try not to overheat the thing again. My kart likes this so little that it blew its stupid little head gasket. My garage is mechanically desperate right now.

Oh, and what's with the Swiss cheese lightening efforts around all of that structural sheetmetal under the hood? The Boss 302 toughening guide suggests doing the exact opposite (looks like what they used to do to kids' BMX bikes in the old days for racing) . . .:newbie:




See ------ here's a guy that can come in and snipe at Dave or I - or Rob - HE actually takes his days off and comes out to hang with us and give us crap face to face. Can't tell you how many times Paul has turned out just to bang on us.

Sorry to hear about the golf kart - er - I meant Go Kart.... hope it's just a simple gasket.

DAVE --- I remember Lillard telling me at the first driver meeting ''sit down -- don't talk - and don't raise your hand - and don't ask any questions". LOL

I think I have a video somewhere -- he's helping me get in the car -- telling me not to be a dumbass - to check my gauges - to take it easy - and then, of course - I hadn't put in the hood pins...... I think the video shows him flipping me off as he fixes that...

Greatest thing I ever did --- hire Ron to fix the car, and coach me, and make sure I don't do dumb things --- like he's always reminding me -- KEEP YOUR EYES UP etc -- and that stuff really helps!!

[DBasher]

[QUOTE=DBasher;665121]

Hey Bash, I missed this. Yes I think we did graduate didn't we? :grouphug:


Yes the checklist was pretty much a fail at any given time that day. :lol:

I only bring up the list because sometimes it's needed. That Andy fellow has the Lotus and a wicked fast Corvette. He also has, as I understand it, a ton of seat time....and a list posted on his steering wheel.
I noticed you've got an unmarked switch on your control panel, is the accusump a solenoid valve or a manual ball?

Take it for what it's worth.
I've been around a roadcourse a total of 4 times.....as a passenger. I know nothing other than how to help get guys ready to go out. PRO3, SpecE46, Optima or these track days. Right now for me, it's the people I get to hang with.
So with that, :mock:

[rustomatic]

Really, I was stoked to see that Dave got a functional car to run at Sonoma (and future events). It's tough breathing in your own car-guy fumes for so long, biding your time until . . .

Hopefully, we can both have cars going simultaneously long enough to hit some track days when normal people are working, before winter kills opportunities. The Fox rocks!

[Panteracer]

I remember my first track event at thunderhill many years
back. We had our drivers meeting in a metal roof bldg when
it was raining so hard you could hardly hear what they were saying
They asked how many had non treaded tires and over half of us rose our
hands. They gave everyone the option to use their SUV or other car

I brought my race car so I was going to run it. I had everything with
Treaded tires passing me almost all day Saturday. On Sunday it stopped raining about 1pm I finally could get the car to speed, smell some brakes and see what my mustang could do. Lots of fun but a lot of tip toeing around the track for most of the weekend. You really had to learn throttle and brake control
Been hooked ever since then

Good to hear you guys are running your cars and having fun
I want to join you guys once i finally heal up

Bob

[Matt@BOS]

It actually came with a very nice Sparco EVO passenger seat installed. But no belts for it so I popped it out and mounted the Traqmate box I'd had for the Camaro right in that spot. I'd like to put it back in at some point.



Ok I will swap on the A7 scrubs just for you.. are you gonna swap out the USCA spec tires then and bring it? :D

I don't need to swap out the Yokohamas for Hoosiers. I'll drive up to Sonoma and bring my street tire excuses with me.

[Sieg]

I don't need to swap out the Yokohamas for Hoosiers. I'll drive up to Sonoma and bring my street tire excuses with me.

Probably best for his ego that he pulled the seat. It would be uncomfortable saying no to his ride along offer. :peepwall:

Ride along on aged street tires with a PDK at Sonoma FTW :D

[Sieg]

Once you beat me I'll promise to wear it.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/WRX-Sti-HB/n-bZgdCh/i-5zmGhJ4/0/3bfc5ae2/M/i-5zmGhJ4-M.jpg

Winning :thumbsup:

[DBasher]

I don't need to swap out the Yokohamas for Hoosiers. I'll drive up to Sonoma and bring my street tire excuses with me.

Winning!:flag2: :thumbsup:

[DBasher]

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/WRX-Sti-HB/n-bZgdCh/i-5zmGhJ4/0/3bfc5ae2/M/i-5zmGhJ4-M.jpg

Winning :thumbsup:

You want to go do Karate in the garage?.....

I've ridden with Rob, he drives like the Duke boys!
Got er did!

[Flash68]

Good on you for finally putting this up, Dave. Participation is everything, so long as what you're participating in is not so boring that you start having conversations with your passenger going full throttle around Thunderhill (what happens in cop car).

Now that I've said this, I can say that I've been doing my best to ignore my junk for a little while here, and you punks keep getting me all excited again . . .

Try not to overheat the thing again. My kart likes this so little that it blew its stupid little head gasket. My garage is mechanically desperate right now.

Oh, and what's with the Swiss cheese lightening efforts around all of that structural sheetmetal under the hood? The Boss 302 toughening guide suggests doing the exact opposite (looks like what they used to do to kids' BMX bikes in the old days for racing) . . .:newbie:

Thanks man. You nailed it here. I won't post the only actual video I have of this car... the overheating session driving around my neighborhood. :lol:

No idea on the swiss cheese. I never even noticed. Now I'm scared. Thanks.



DAVE --- I remember Lillard telling me at the first driver meeting ''sit down -- don't talk - and don't raise your hand - and don't ask any questions". LOL



I think Rob and Matt were standing behind me in said meeting and egging me to raise my hand. What are friends for?

[QUOTE=Flash68;665141]


I noticed you've got an unmarked switch on your control panel, is the accusump a solenoid valve or a manual ball?



The list is smart I agree. Just one more thing to not be a potential fail. I will give myself one more track day to get the routine down on my own. :)

There is one available switch -- I thought about adding the traqmate but we will see if that's a mainstay. I have the manual switch with the pull handle right on the passenger side of the tunnel. I like the manual vs electric... one less thing to go wrong, assuming no "driver error."

Really, I was stoked to see that Dave got a functional car to run at Sonoma (and future events). It's tough breathing in your own car-guy fumes for so long, biding your time until . . .

Hopefully, we can both have cars going simultaneously long enough to hit some track days when normal people are working, before winter kills opportunities. The Fox rocks!

Thanks man - you nailed it... again. You're, as Dan Patrick used to say... en fuego. We need to get out ASAP I agree. Team Bastard!


I don't need to swap out the Yokohamas for Hoosiers. I'll drive up to Sonoma and bring my street tire excuses with me.

Smart, Matt. Smart. :gitrdun:

Probably best for his ego that he pulled the seat. It would be uncomfortable saying no to his ride along offer. :peepwall:



I'd gladly put the 4 bolts back in that hold the seat and put you in it for a ride along... sans belts of course. :smiley_smack:

[Sieg]

I'd gladly put the 4 bolts back in that hold the seat and put you in it for a ride along... sans belts of course. :smiley_smack:

I'll put the bolts in, I've seen what you do with tools in your hands. :mock:

[DBasher]

Can't be any worse than Charlie.....never mind.:superhack:

[FETorino]

Just keep the checklist simple and attainable while you get accustomed to the car.

http://http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/7C75DBFE-28B5-464E-AFF5-6DFC068D7303_zps3t9znixe.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/7C75DBFE-28B5-464E-AFF5-6DFC068D7303_zps3t9znixe.jpg.html)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/WRX-Sti-HB/n-bZgdCh/i-5zmGhJ4/0/3bfc5ae2/M/i-5zmGhJ4-M.jpg

Winning :thumbsup:

If you had showed up at T-Hill I would have gave you that shirt.

Can't be any worse than Charlie.....never mind.:superhack:

:headscratch: You gotta watch out. Some people just don't seem to look out for passenger safety when bolting in their passenger seats :ohsnap:

[Sieg]

If you had showed up at T-Hill I would have gave you that shirt.

If I could have showed up at T-Hill I'd be a proud shirt owner and $10K+ ahead.

You know how that feels. :D

[Sieg]

Can't be any worse than Charlie.....never mind.:superhack:

Clill - Get me a hammerfor!

DBasher - What's a hammerfor?

Clill - Installing a distributor silly

GW - :bang:

[DBasher]

:headscratch: You gotta watch out. Some people just don't seem to look out for passenger safety when bolting in their passenger seats :ohsnap:

Well I wasn't going to say anything because I was part of the AO crew that weekend....at least the belts kept me from falling out of the car. :twak:
I may have been better off sitting on a 5 gallon bucket....I'll inspect next time. :knock:

[DBasher]

Clill - Get me a hammerfor!

DBasher - What's a hammerfor?

Clill - Installing a distributor silly

GW - :bang:

Followed by a sonic boom in the garage from the backfire...ears are still ringing. And before Charlie says anything, yes it drove....straight on to the trailer. :hello:

[Flash68]

I'll put the bolts in, I've seen what you do with tools in your hands. :mock:

No you haven't. You have not drank flavored beer (see what I did there?) in my garage from the Keezer Majal. :cheers:

Just keep the checklist simple and attainable while you get accustomed to the car.



That is the goal. :military:

[Flash68]

hey Iceman.. get that house and shop built so you can build your next car and bring it to the track. :stirthepot: :D

http://i64.tinypic.com/34h9il5.jpg

[Vegas69]

I'm not sure the ego's in the group could handle that. :D

I just might do that one of these days. If I do, I'll buy something like this mule you picked up and beat the SNOT out of it.

I've got a little work left to do on the house, so it may be a while. ha

[Panteracer]

I just saw the Pantera poster in the garage
Who has the Pantera??
Had four in my shop then my buddy switches out
his Pantera for a 240z??? It does have a small block chevy
so maybe that is ok

Bob

[GregWeld]

I just saw the Pantera poster in the garage
Who has the Pantera??
Had four in my shop then my buddy switches out
his Pantera for a 240z??? It does have a small block chevy
so maybe that is ok

Bob



Yeah....... NO!

:lmao:

[Flash68]

I just saw the Pantera poster in the garage
Who has the Pantera??
Had four in my shop then my buddy switches out
his Pantera for a 240z??? It does have a small block chevy
so maybe that is ok

Bob

No one I know except you!

I've loved this Detomaso Mangusta since I first saw it... inspired me on my Camaro. For better or worse. :sieg:

http://i65.tinypic.com/jhaqhg.jpg

And I want to put an SB2 in a Pantera someday. :)

[Panteracer]

The blue Race car is Milo out of SoCal
We used to see him run the historics at Laguna
but it has been a few years. The guys in Europe have
a bunch of Detomaso race cars. A few of my Pantera buddies
go to Vintage Lemons every other year where there are some
really cool race cars running. On my bucket list to go watch

Bob

[rustomatic]

This blue thing is sickness! It's all business!

Yo, Dave, a quick favor: Does your LS3 have a Mass Air Flow sensor? If you're not sure, just start at your throttle body, then work to the air filter. If there's no wired connection in there, you're speed density. If there's a wire, you probably have a MAF, or at least one being used for the air temp measurement (IAT). The reason I ask is that I'm contemplating a speed density tune to get the stupid Falcon running tolerably. Thanks!

No one I know except you!

I've loved this Detomaso Mangusta since I first saw it... inspired me on my Camaro. For better or worse. :sieg:

http://i65.tinypic.com/jhaqhg.jpg

And I want to put an SB2 in a Pantera someday. :)

[Flash68]

I do have a MAF on the Nova so I do know what they are. :D

Looks like speed density to me. ?

http://i68.tinypic.com/245g4lu.jpg

[rustomatic]

Thanks for looking, Dave! I'll be plying some severely amateur HP Tuners tuning very soon, as speed density seems to be favored by those who actually whoop on their stuff, whereas MAF tunes seem to be preferred by the cruiser set. I've not built a cruiser. The internet gets you to at least "enthusiast" status with anything very quickly . . .:computer:

I do have a MAF on the Nova so I do know what they are. :D

Looks like speed density to me. ?

http://i68.tinypic.com/245g4lu.jpg

[GregWeld]

Thanks for looking, Dave! I'll be plying some severely amateur HP Tuners tuning very soon, as speed density seems to be favored by those who actually whoop on their stuff, whereas MAF tunes seem to be preferred by the cruiser set. I've not built a cruiser. The internet gets you to at least "enthusiast" status with anything very quickly . . .:computer:




Be careful there buddy ---- lots of folks have decided to be tuners and ruined motors and they're gone in a hurry! Glazed cylinders - washed out rings - and lean burned up ring lands etc.

I know nothing about the tuning program you're using -- but just a heads up.

[Flash68]

The internet gets you to at least "enthusiast" status with anything very quickly . . .:computer:

Ain't that the sad truth. We are all weak sauce.

[Flash68]

PB224wy7mig

[Flash68]

when your track car spends more time in its birthday party livery than being on track....

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ScXZQx8/0/64deba06/XL/i-ScXZQx8-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-ScXZQx8/A)

[DBasher]

I love it! Great way to keep the kiddos involved with dads toys.
🦊🍺

[GregWeld]

I love it! Great way to keep the kiddos involved with dads toys.
🦊🍺




It would be better if Dad was involved with Dad's toys......

[Flash68]

It would be better if Dad was involved with Dad's toys......

LOL... yeah wouldn't that be something?! :smiley_smack:

[GregWeld]

LOL... yeah wouldn't that be something?! :smiley_smack:

reminds me of the line in Grumpy Old Men -- when the two of them get in a fight and the old man (Burgess Meredith) says ---- DAMN KIDS! LOL

[FETorino]

It would be better if Dad was involved with Dad's toys......

Is he supposed to actually drive it?:stirthepot: :stirthepot:

[Flash68]

Is he supposed to actually drive it?:stirthepot: :stirthepot:

Ahh.. is that what I am supposed to be doing? :hitaxeonthehead:



https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-rDQ8Bwn/0/cd1e574d/XL/i-rDQ8Bwn-XL.png (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-rDQ8Bwn/A)

[DBasher]

Let me help with the pre-race list.
Accusump, on
GoPro, on
Track mate thingy, on

And don't forget to bring spare splitter struts.🙃

:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Let me help with the pre-race list.
Accusump, on
GoPro, on
Track mate thingy, on

And don't forget to bring spare splitter struts.🙃


AND FRESH TIRES....


:thumbsup:




Fixeded it for ya..... his list needs to be comprehensive.... LOL

[Flash68]

Let me help with the pre-race list.
Accusump, on
GoPro, on
Track mate thingy, on

And don't forget to bring spare splitter struts.🙃

:thumbsup:

Hey I turned the GoPro on all 5 sessions! Just FAILED to put the SD card in.... DUMB :bang:

Have spare (and stronger) struts now but the splitter has been rasied about an inch and a half or so now. Hopefully that is good!

Fixeded it for ya..... his list needs to be comprehensive.... LOL

NEWERER tires are happening.... I am kinduva scrub guy.... with tires and in life.

[GregWeld]

Running Laguna Seca is going to be so much fun for you Dave! There's just something special about running the great tracks, that makes the entire "event" different than just driving a track event.

[DBasher]

I’m sure as you’re preparing for this weekend you’ve started the list, let me just add a few things.

1) Make sure the tow rig and trailer will make the trip (I’ve seen both and am hoping for the best)
2) Don’t forget the race car (it happens)
3) Have fun
4) Don’t suck (probably the most important)

:thumbsup: :flag2:

[GregWeld]

I’m sure as you’re preparing for this weekend you’ve started the list, let me just add a few things.

1) Make sure the tow rig and trailer will make the trip (I’ve seen both and am hoping for the best)
2) Don’t forget the race car (it happens)
3) Have fun
4) Don’t suck (probably the most important)

:thumbsup: :flag2:




Hysterical!


#5) Don't forget to breathe



I used to think they were kidding.... but when you're a newb - you do forget to!

[Sieg]

#6 Have a back up tire strategy :sieg:

[Vegas69]

Start making excuses NOW

[fleetus macmullitz]

I support your team DG. :drive:

https://s20.postimg.org/v9osmdr3x/IMG_1822.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

#BiffRacing


:P

[SSLance]

#7 Don't forget to drive

My very first time on track, I had just passed a Corvette and had clear track in front of me and my instructor told me that...and then said "It happens"

Good luck!!

[BMR Sales]

#8 Don't follow the Idiot's Line in Front of you as he heads for the Wall!

[Flash68]

Ahh, I can feel the love! :action-smiley-027:

The weather looks like it's gonna miss us on Saturday so it's game-on. Low 60's and dry. :thumbsup:

These 2016 tires gotta be better than the previous 2013's. :sieg:

[Sieg]

Let us know how many laps it takes to keep the throttle pinned over the crest of T1...... assuming you have enough motor to make it interesting. :rules:

[FETorino]

Have fun tomorrow. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I wish I was running.

[GregWeld]

YES ----- Above all else --- don't forget to just have fun!

[Spiffav8]

Ahh, I can feel the love! :action-smiley-027:

The weather looks like it's gonna miss us on Saturday so it's game-on. Low 60's and dry. :thumbsup:

These 2016 tires gotta be better than the previous 2013's. :sieg:

Pin it to Win it. :drive:

[fleetus macmullitz]

https://s20.postimg.org/8u8r4efvx/IMG_1899.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Flash68]

Let us know how many laps it takes to keep the throttle pinned over the crest of T1

ALL of them!

Have fun tomorrow. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I wish I was running.

You blew it.

YES ----- Above all else --- don't forget to just have fun!

Pretty hard to not have fun with the epic combo of Rich Bermea and Laguna Seca. :cheers:

Pin it to Win it. :drive:

Lots of pinning!


The well known corkscrew

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Fk5ZhZC/0/6d34cde2/XL/i-Fk5ZhZC-XL.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-Fk5ZhZC/A)

Shot of the diffuser I put on before this day but had to take off mid day as I noticed the exhaust was melting a corner of it :D

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bFP64sF/0/c58d3168/L/i-bFP64sF-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-bFP64sF/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RvzgpGq/0/5839e2cb/L/i-RvzgpGq-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-RvzgpGq/A)

[Flash68]

Turned on all the right buttons this time and we have actual video.

Yes, my shifting in this thing needs work. Geez...

Pretty satisfied with my first time out at Laguna. And that no major carnage or issues came about. A second day would've been great, and/or a group without beginners. This was a rare clean lap.

XC3WqAMMbQ4

[DBasher]

See what happens when you make a list...or when your jackass friends make one for you? You suck less, which is practically the same as success!

Great pictures and video, I bet it’s fun to look back and watch what you were actually doing...or not doing. Good learning tool.
:thumbsup:

And about the shifting, don’t worry about it. I remember my first time driving a stick.:action-smiley-027:

[Spiffav8]

Looks like a lot of fun.

:captain:

[SSLance]

Glad you had an uneventful weekend!! And thanks for posting the video.

Man, you shift a TON there! How many times a lap anyway?

[Vegas69]

Looks like a ball to me and plenty of car too.

[Flash68]

See what happens when you make a list...or when your jackass friends make one for you? You suck less, which is practically the same as success!

Great pictures and video, I bet it’s fun to look back and watch what you were actually doing...or not doing. Good learning tool.
:thumbsup:

And about the shifting, don’t worry about it. I remember my first time driving a stick.:action-smiley-027:

Thanks... I think. :lol:

I still did not make a list. The ACR next to me had one on his steering wheel. I congratulated him on that smart move. :thumbsup:

I remembered to pull the accusump valve somewhere around lap 3 or 4 of the first session.

I did nail my "list" in sessions 4 and 5. So there's that.

There really is a lot going on at a track day ... the little things add up.


Looks like a lot of fun.

:captain:

Yes sir!

Glad you had an uneventful weekend!! And thanks for posting the video.

Man, you shift a TON there! How many times a lap anyway?

Thanks. I think I can modify a couple of the shifts there but it's a close ratio Richmond 5 speed so I think lots of shifting is just in the cards and it seems fairly consistent with the other videos I've watched there.

This is where being able to run on Sundays would really be advantageous. But I gotta get back to the fam.

Looks like a ball to me and plenty of car too.

Oh yeah. And there's a lot left in that car.

[gerno]

[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I think I can modify a couple of the shifts there but it's a close ratio Richmond 5 speed so I think lots of shifting is just in the cards and it seems fairly consistent with the other videos I've watched there.


[/QUOTE]


I think the truth is that you watch a little too much Fast and Furious before heading to the track.... It's all good, you can admit it .:morepower

[Flash68]

Thanks. I think I can modify a couple of the shifts there but it's a close ratio Richmond 5 speed so I think lots of shifting is just in the cards and it seems fairly consistent with the other videos I've watched there.


[/QUOTE]


I think the truth is that you watch a little too much Fast and Furious before heading to the track.... It's all good, you can admit it .:morepower[/QUOTE]

Well it's not Vin Diesel driving but the videos of the guys I watch prior to running a track day I would say are driving a lot faster and furiously than me! Of course, once you get on track all that goes out the window and you don't recall a thing.


The power is good .... for now. :underchair:

[FETorino]

You blew it

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RvzgpGq/0/5839e2cb/L/i-RvzgpGq-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Fox/n-FjTqgh/i-RvzgpGq/A)

I stayed away so you could feel good about your lap times, that’s what friends do. :stirthepot:

[Vegas69]

I'll buy that POS Camaro on the right coast for .10 on the dollar. Take it or leave it.

[Flash68]

I stayed away so you could feel good about your lap times, that’s what friends do. :stirthepot:

hey I don't feel THAT good about my lap times.... they are just "ok" for now :walkingdog:

I'll buy that POS Camaro on the right coast for .10 on the dollar. Take it or leave it.

Ya know that is still quite a big check! :lol:

[Flash68]

Rich don't post on here much but he's larger than life at the track and in the flesh! Great hangin with him again and getting the band back together.. :cheers: Buddy.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kcSTX9t/0/9e4bfd7c/L/i-kcSTX9t-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Misc/n-Pp9jSk/i-kcSTX9t/A)


Oh and here were the lemon cars pitted all within 50 feet of us. :headspin:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3bp5rwb/0/df1b7fff/L/i-3bp5rwb-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Misc/n-Pp9jSk/i-3bp5rwb/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mqdF32h/0/9cc15700/L/i-mqdF32h-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Misc/n-Pp9jSk/i-mqdF32h/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wGZqRtP/0/88fb3af7/L/i-wGZqRtP-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Misc/n-Pp9jSk/i-wGZqRtP/A)

[Vegas69]

:rofl:

[FETorino]

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wGZqRtP/0/88fb3af7/L/i-wGZqRtP-L.jpg (https://davidgordon.smugmug.com/Misc/n-Pp9jSk/i-wGZqRtP/A)

Pure track car sex appeal right there.

[GregWeld]

I'll buy that POS Camaro on the right coast for .10 on the dollar. Take it or leave it.

You might be ahead paying 1:1 on the Mustang....


LOL

[Flash68]

You might be ahead paying 1:1 on the Mustang....


LOL

Mine or yours? :G-Dub:

[Vegas69]

You might be ahead paying 1:1 on the Mustang....


LOL

I may have over stepped my bounds, huh. :D

[DBasher]

You’ve had the car for a few months now and been on track a couple times, don’t you think it’s time to send it off to the first shop for some upgrades?
:grouphug:
Just here to help.
:flag2: :mock:

[Sieg]

You’ve had the car for a few months now and been on track a couple times, don’t you think it’s time to send it off to the first shop for some upgrades?
:grouphug:
Just here to help.
:flag2: :mock:

First? :sieg:

You obviously haven't seen his Black Book of shops.

[DBasher]

First? :sieg:

You obviously haven't seen his Black Book of shops.

I haven’t seen the book but I do get friendly reminders of “you know what you need?” It’s all good, friends helping friends make poor decisions.
:thumbsup: :cheers:

[GregWeld]

I haven’t seen the book but I do get friendly reminders of “you know what you need?” It’s all good, friends helping friends make poor decisions.
:thumbsup: :cheers:



If you think cars, in general, are expensive.... and that Hot Rods are even more expensive.... Buy a race car and find out what "expensive" means.

[DBasher]

If you think cars, in general, are expensive.... and that Hot Rods are even more expensive.... Buy a race car and find out what "expensive" means.

Life is expensive! Another friend of ours said it best. “Don’t spend more on a race car than you’re willing to blow in Vegas, or flush down the toilet” I’m not willing to do either so, no “race car” for this guy....yet.

Now a well handling V8, manual, street car is an affordable way of getting some seat time....I’m finding out that they cost money as well. :headspin:

[Flash68]

You’ve had the car for a few months now and been on track a couple times, don’t you think it’s time to send it off to the first shop for some upgrades?
:grouphug:
Just here to help.
:flag2: :mock:

This car has been the best bang for buck car yet... so far. :trophy-1302:

2018 could see some improvements to this car.... as the driver improves :underchair:

friends helping friends make poor decisions.
:thumbsup: :cheers:

That's what it's all about buddy!! :cheers: :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

Turned on all the right buttons this time and we have actual video.

Yes, my shifting in this thing needs work. Geez...

Pretty satisfied with my first time out at Laguna. And that no major carnage or issues came about. A second day would've been great, and/or a group without beginners. This was a rare clean lap.

XC3WqAMMbQ4


https://s20.postimg.org/re3rng03h/IMG_2239.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/3zvsbii61/)

[Flash68]

^^

Haha. At least someone came to hang out... all my other friends only show up when Weld is around. :(

First? :sieg:

You obviously haven't seen his Black Book of shops.

I talked to Weld and he helped me cross off a couple names. :hitaxeonthehead:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Haha. At least someone came to hang out... all my other friends only show up when Weld is around. :(



Not sure why that is...

:P


https://s20.postimg.org/49caeyhl9/IMG_2559.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/nefjopw95/)

On the other hand, you two are quite the dynamic duo.

https://s20.postimg.org/y19cu66zh/IMG_2560.png (https://postimg.org/image/d4d4pi8yh/)

#ChristmasComesEarlySometimes

[Flash68]

^ HAHA. You must have a larger photo catalog than Sieg... that's kinda scary there Skip. :peepwall:

[fleetus macmullitz]

^ HAHA. You must have a larger photo catalog than Sieg... that's kinda scary there Skip. :peepwall:

Flashdrive,

I'm sensing yer not 'preciatin my re-gifting of these very special moments that have gone round the world, and now have landed back here...in particular the first one.

Sadly, these are all I have...


:P

[Vegas69]

Drives a Ford and drinks Coors Light. Glad I knew you when before your wife carried them around in her purse. :D

[Flash68]

Flashdrive,

I'm sensing yer not 'preciatin my re-gifting of these very special moments that have gone round the world, and now have landed back here...in particular the first one.

Sadly, these are all I have...


:P

The Preciatin' is all mine! :D

Drives a Ford and drinks Coors Light. Glad I knew you when before your wife carried them around in her purse. :D

Come on... proper power plant and that Coors Light can was a prop. Donated by Sieg I am quite sure.

:action-smiley-027:

[DBasher]

I wasn’t going to mention the C-....at least the mountains were blue.
:bigun2:

[DBasher]

Just sayin...:cheers:

[gnx7]

2667lbs is impressive with a full cage!

That motor sounds nasty! Easily has high 1:30's in it at Laguna Seca. That track is pretty easy to learn once you get the hang of it.

[Flash68]

2667lbs is impressive with a full cage!

That motor sounds nasty! Easily has high 1:30's in it at Laguna Seca. That track is pretty easy to learn once you get the hang of it.

Thanks! Yeah I am absolutely lovin this car. Has so much potential in it as it sits. Driver needs to catch up to it now.

After running LS I do think I could get into the high 1:30's with some more time there. Not having to lift for the sound meter was a nice bonus!

[GregWeld]

Thanks! Yeah I am absolutely lovin this car. Has so much potential in it as it sits. Driver needs to catch up to it now.

After running LS I do think I could get into the high 1:30's with some more time there. Not having to lift for the sound meter was a nice bonus!



Better shoot for mid 1:40's ----- NASA club records show a 1:34 in a '99 Corvette and that record hasn't been broken in FIVE YEARS....

LOL


Mid 1:40's will put you in RECORD territory at Laguna Seca in the TT (Time Trials division). That's some of the best amatuer drivers on the west coast. Just sayin'

[Flash68]

Better shoot for mid 1:40's ----- NASA club records show a 1:34 in a '99 Corvette and that record hasn't been broken in FIVE YEARS....

LOL


Mid 1:40's will put you in RECORD territory at Laguna Seca in the TT (Time Trials division). That's some of the best amatuer drivers on the west coast. Just sayin'

LOL.... we must talking about different tracks... Mid 1:40's is NOT a fast time at Laguna Seca..... know how I know? Because I just ran that time first time there :lol:

There were so many cars in the 1:30's when I was out there I lost count.... apparently there are some fast drivers/cars that don't run NASA! Go figure!

Gnx7 knows what he is talking about .. just sayin

:action-smiley-027:

[GregWeld]

LOL.... we must talking about different tracks... Mid 1:40's is NOT a fast time at Laguna Seca..... know how I know? Because I just ran that time first time there :lol:

There were so many cars in the 1:30's when I was out there I lost count.... apparently there are some fast drivers/cars that don't run NASA! Go figure!

Gnx7 knows what he is talking about .. just sayin

:action-smiley-027:




You're right --- I was looking at the Sonoma page thinking I was on Laguna Seca....

[Flash68]

2667lbs is impressive with a full cage!

That motor sounds nasty! Easily has high 1:30's in it at Laguna Seca. That track is pretty easy to learn once you get the hang of it.

Mark I am guessing you ran your Monster RX7 there?

[michics]

Great parts list. Cortex and Griggs suspension. Stoptech front brakes. Top notch roll cage. Maier wide body and front end pieces. Custom splitter and G Stream wing. And to top it off a Turnkey Engines LS3. I don't think I would buy a Fox without a GM engine in it.



So Dave, do you know whose cradle or K member is in your car to install the LS motor ?

Thanks

[Flash68]

Great parts list. Cortex and Griggs suspension. Stoptech front brakes. Top notch roll cage. Maier wide body and front end pieces. Custom splitter and G Stream wing. And to top it off a Turnkey Engines LS3. I don't think I would buy a Fox without a GM engine in it.



So Dave, do you know whose cradle or K member is in your car to install the LS motor ?

Thanks

I believe (was told) it's the Griggs K member. No reason to think it's not from what I've seen. I am still getting to know these Mustangs. Hope to add the SLA to it at some point.

[DBasher]

From now on if anybody asks about the car, just say it’s black.
Spring rates? Yup, black
Front K? It’s black
Control arms? Black

Or you can answer a question with a question, for instance...
Wouldn’t you like to know?
Or
What’s it to ya?

Another idea borrowed from ol Smokey himself “it’s pretty much stock”

:D

[Flash68]

From now on if anybody asks about the car, just say it’s black.
Spring rates? Yup, black
Front K? It’s black
Control arms? Black

Or you can answer a question with a question, for instance...
Wouldn’t you like to know?
Or
What’s it to ya?

Another idea borrowed from ol Smokey himself “it’s pretty much stock”

:D

Oh, now you?! Man where does it end?! :computer:

It's a Cortex and Griggs mish mash stock car. :rules:

I shoulda bought this car - or one like it - years ago...

[FETorino]

I shoulda bought this car - or one like it - years ago...

Told you so. You just didn’t listen. :peepwall:

Thank god you didn’t buy a C5.

[Vegas69]

Somebody do this guy a favor and go put a lock and chain on this garage door so he can't modify this thing. :mock:

[Flash68]

Told you so. You just didn’t listen. :peepwall:

Thank god you didn’t buy a C5.

Thank God I didn't buy an orange POS that needed 98% redoing to get it track worthy. :waveflag:

Somebody do this guy a favor and go put a lock and chain on this garage door so he can't modify this thing. :mock:

It's a smart call... but one I am unlikely able to adhere to. :action-smiley-027:

(it does need an SLA, and bla bla bla) :lol:

[DBasher]

It's a smart call... but one I am unlikely able to adhere to. :action-smiley-027:

(it does need an SLA, and bla bla bla) :lol:

I concur. :hello:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm just here for the Nova...and I like the personal touches you've added.

https://s20.postimg.org/65oxts7ml/IMG_2667.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


:P

[DBasher]

I'm just here for the Nova...and I like the personal touches you've added.
:P

I heard the Nova is in the shop getting a redo...:popcorn2:

[FETorino]

I heard the Nova is in the shop getting a redo...:popcorn2:

Of course it is. :headscratch:

[Sieg]

I heard the Nova is in the shop getting a redo...:popcorn2:

Yeah, just new drapes.

[GregWeld]

Yeah, just new drapes.



American Pickers is doing a show on unfinished projects.......

[FETorino]

Thank God I didn't buy an orange POS that needed 98% redoing to get it track worthy. :waveflag:

:y0!: (Insert hurtful comment about Dave’s mechanical ability here)

It's a smart call... but one I am unlikely able to adhere to. :action-smiley-027:

(it does need an SLA, and bla bla bla) :lol:

It seems you bought a black one. :waveflag:

[GregWeld]

It seems you bought a black one. :waveflag:




OUCH!!


LOL

[Flash68]

I'm just here for the Nova...and I like the personal touches you've added.

:P

I heard the Nova is in the shop getting a redo...:popcorn2:

The Wagon is out there doing better than ever thanks to a couple fine tunes from Vince!

American Pickers is doing a show on unfinished projects.......

That was smart to give them Rob's address. :thumbsup:

It seems you bought a black one. :waveflag:

OUCH!!


LOL

It probably would be painful if I was on my 3rd motor like the orange one.... but I am not. :mock:


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[michics]

I believe (was told) it's the Griggs K member. No reason to think it's not from what I've seen. I am still getting to know these Mustangs. Hope to add the SLA to it at some point.

What kind of oiling system is on the car to protect the motor ? I continue to read about the oiling issues with the LS3 on the road course.

[Flash68]

What kind of oiling system is on the car to protect the motor ? I continue to read about the oiling issues with the LS3 on the road course.

Yes, there is an epic thread on Corvette Forum about every LS3 ever driven on a road course has or will blow up.

A dry sump is the best method of course but pretty expensive.

Mine system is made up of an Accusump, Kevko road race oil pan, and remote oil filter. Has been fine so far. At least when I remember to open the valve before each session. :sieg:

[DBasher]

It’s black....

And about that rearend ratio...did you get the same outcome spinning backward as you did forward? Ive heard it can be different :sieg:

[Vegas69]

Drivers way to slow to worry about oiling issues.

[Flash68]

Driver's way TOO slow to worry about oiling issues.

Well there's that too.

I fixed your sentence BTW. :action-smiley-027:

[Vegas69]

Thanks for being the grammar police. My school teacher for a wife has never done that.

[Flash68]

Thanks for being the grammar police. My school teacher for a wife has never done that.

You're welcome. Never too late to master 4th grade buddy. :lol:

[Vegas69]

I barely remember going to school, let alone 4th grade english. :lol:

I was going to give you hell about how that 4th grade grammar is helping you complete a project, but I just don't have the heart. ha

[rustomatic]

I didn't even realize this thread had turned into a grammar discussion. You do not want my perspective on this topic.

What's the prognosis on the clutch? The pedal clearly stopped playing an active role in the game . . .

If it makes you feel better, my truck's water pump gave up yesterday (no towing was involved). It'll cost me nearly $60.00 to fix. Dang it.

[DBasher]

Was the clutch pedal to the floor with zero resistance or was pressure noticeable and just won’t engage a gear?

Hopefully it’s an easy cylinder swap or TOB....if not, it may be time to swap the SB2 and dog box. :bigun2:
:thumbsup::flag2:

[Flash68]

What's the prognosis on the clutch? The pedal clearly stopped playing an active role in the game . . .

If it makes you feel better, my truck's water pump gave up yesterday (no towing was involved). It'll cost me nearly $60.00 to fix. Dang it.

Not sure yet. But I wanna maybe try to make Sonoma this weekend. We'll see.

Glad you made it home at least before the water pump failed.


Was the clutch pedal to the floor with zero resistance or was pressure noticeable and just won’t engage a gear?

Hopefully it’s an easy cylinder swap or TOB....if not, it may be time to swap the SB2 and dog box. :bigun2:
:thumbsup::flag2:

After no issues 1st session it just wouldn't shift from 5 to 4 going into T1. Or any gear after that - while running - for that matter.

7 total laps for the day.... :shakehead:

Hopefully something minor.... as I sat on the shoulder of T2 waiting for the tow I did think to myself.... "you do have a trans not doing anything right now..." :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

Hopefully something minor.... as I sat on the shoulder of T2 waiting for the tow I did think to myself.... "you do have a trans not doing anything right now..." :D

...and thankfully you have a ‘crack’ staff already in place to fix your muttmobile.

:P

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[gnx7]

Mark I am guessing you ran your Monster RX7 there?

I had another red RX-7 widebody with 18x12's at all corners, JRZ triples, 2470lbs wet with detuned 438 stroker LS7 (stock LS3 heads and made only 530rwhp to try to meet power/weight rules), GForce GSR dogbox, and 3.27 gears in a Cobra IRS 8.8" diff with custom axles running the RX-7 suspension out back. It had an ARE dry sump system. My first time at Laguna ever I ran a 1:35.5 with it... my buddy who built the car ran a 1:33 flat and said there was a lot more left. Also broke the GSR dogbox by not fully engaging reverse and sheared the teeth off it... We ended up tearing down the box at the track.... cleaned it up... removed reverse and ran it another couple sessions.

Sadly after running the 1:35.5 a couple laps later the bolt from the dry sump pump walked off... allowed the pulley to move... which then made the belt fall off.... so I seized the motor. That was an expensive day! Cameron Rogers now campaigns the car in TTU I believe. It's gray now....

[Flash68]

Wow! That thing is an evil little bastard. Must be a hoot to scream around in.

Low to mid 1:30's ... that is haulin the mail at Laguna. And I am sure all of my "fast" friends who think they are fast could beat that. They know who they are. :lol:

:thumbsup:

[Flash68]

:bigun2:

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[Sieg]

I had absolutely no idea trailering was so hard on a race car :sieg:

[Flash68]

I had absolutely no idea trailering was so hard on a race car :sieg:

a Tilton 5.5 inch triple disc is apparently not a pro touring clutch. :sieg:

[rustomatic]

a Tilton 5.5 inch triple disc is apparently not a pro touring clutch. :sieg:

One mustn't fail to mention the smoky burnout (going uphill) on the trailer--that's pro-trailering. Clutches love this.:bump:

[DBasher]

Both those RX7’s sound like wicked little cars, nice job Mark.:thumbsup:

Dave, you’re ruining the pedigree of that car...:D

[Vegas69]

I just want to make sure you know they sell replacement ckutches. You don’t need to rebuild the WHOLE car.

[Flash68]

One mustn't fail to mention the smoky burnout (going uphill) on the trailer--that's pro-trailering. Clutches love this.:bump:

Still getting used to this whole car, trailer, towing, racing, yada yada thing. :waveflag:

Both those RX7’s sound like wicked little cars, nice job Mark.:thumbsup:

Dave, you’re ruining the pedigree of that car...:D

That's what I pretty do with everything. If I could short the things I get involved with I'd be a rich man.

I just want to make sure you know they sell replacement clutches. You don’t need to rebuild the WHOLE car.

That is the goal -- get back to the track immediately!

[jarhead]

From now on if anybody asks about the car, just say it’s black.
Spring rates? Yup, black
Front K? It’s black
Control arms? Black

Or you can answer a question with a question, for instance...
Wouldn’t you like to know?
Or
What’s it to ya?

Another idea borrowed from ol Smokey himself “it’s pretty much stock”

:D

Bash, reading all the new stuff i've never seen before, cause I cant do anything else, i'm waiting for surgery on Monday

and you have me absolutely laughing my A.. off :lmao: Thank You!

it is great to see you guy's out having fun in these race cars :gitrdun::topic:

[DBasher]

Joe if you don’t know by now, these guys that I bust on are really good people, some of the best! I’m a bit slow (in more ways than one) but hope to be tracking with them all soon...I’m actually going to buy a helmet tomorrow.

Good luck on Monday with the surgery!
:flag2:

[Flash68]

Bash, reading all the new stuff i've never seen before, cause I cant do anything else, i'm waiting for surgery on Monday

and you have me absolutely laughing my A.. off :lmao: Thank You!

it is great to see you guy's out having fun in these race cars :gitrdun::topic:

Good luck Joe. My apologies that you found my thread to pass some of the time. :lol:


Joe if you don’t know by now, these guys that I bust on are really good people, some of the best! I’m a bit slow (in more ways than one) but hope to be tracking with them all soon...I’m actually going to buy a helmet tomorrow.

Good luck on Monday with the surgery!
:flag2:

Clearly you aren't referring to me. :peepwall:

Get your car and safety gear ready and come south.

I got 4 track days on the books in the next 4 months. :thumbsup:

[jarhead]

Good luck on Monday with the surgery!
:flag2:

Good luck Joe. My apologies that you found my thread to pass some of the time. :lol:



Thanks guys, fortunately it's a one day thing (hopefully) Monday with my my kidney and they caught it it early on. I thought it was something else and was overly worried.

The best part is I could waste a week of time off catching up on things here, lol. I was hoping to work on my car but this took me out of commission due to the pain. So I sleep, then come here, and read. Heck I even read all of Weld's "Shed Build" from start to finish, and then I found out about his health and I found out I was very fortunate.

[Flash68]

I'll be running this POS with NASA this Saturday at Sonoma if anyone is around.... come say hello. :beers:

[FETorino]

I'll be running this POS with NASA this Saturday at Sonoma if anyone is around.... come say hello. :beers:

How did that track day at Sonoma
work out?

[DBasher]

How did that track day at Sonoma
work out?

:peepwall::hitaxeonthehead::flag2::grouphug:

[Track Junky]

Heard he ran a 1:56 from up stairs down to the keezer and back up ��

There running at Sonoma on July 6th DG. If I get my aluminum fuel cell in I'm signing up

[Flash68]

How did that track day at Sonoma
work out?

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Heard he ran a 1:56 from up stairs down to the keezer and back up ��

There running at Sonoma on July 6th DG. If I get my aluminum fuel cell in I'm signing up

1:52, 1:53... something like that. :D Actually had my first beer today in 10 days.... so that tells you a little how I've been feeling which is why I missed Sonoma. :(

I was looking at that date too for a possible do-over.... but I'm confirmed for Laguna Seca July 16 already so that may be too close together for my schedule.... we'll see next week.

[Flash68]

After many missed track days I finally got out again. Car had some new parts - Tilton 5.5" clutch & 800 series pedals, Woodward column (stolen from my Camaro!), and fire suppression. Everything worked good. Well, not that fire suppression thankfully.

Only real issue was when I killed it too many times getting ready to get on track for 1st session that I overcooked the battery on the starting grid and had to get towed back to the paddock for a jump. :lol:

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[rustomatic]

Nice save(s)! Glad to see the Sonoma day went off without too many hitches, short of yellow cars in the way . . . SpeedSF still owes me a shirt.

[fleetus macmullitz]

After many missed track days I finally got out again. Car had some new parts - Tilton 5.5" clutch & 800 series pedals, Woodward column (stolen from my Camaro!), and fire suppression. Everything worked good. Well, not that fire suppression thankfully.

Only real issue was when I killed it too many times getting ready to get on track for 1st session that I overcooked the battery on the starting grid and had to get towed back to the paddock for a jump. :lol:

9eEYYBHFjIg

Way to get out there and drive that thing ‘Lloyd’. :thumbsup:

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[Flash68]

Nice save(s)! Glad to see the Sonoma day went off without too many hitches, short of yellow cars in the way . . . SpeedSF still owes me a shirt.

Thanks! She can be a slider with my horribly unsmooth input skills (as Rob would say).

I had some good fun with a Viper in the previous session. The 2019 Ford GT in my run group seemed to be doing parade laps.

I got me 2 of their t shirts.... this time was free. Sorry not sorry.

Way to get out there and drive that thing ‘Lloyd’. :thumbsup:



That's definitely Gold, Pony Boy. :D

[rustomatic]

It's so shocking that the GT would be driven like a hot dog cart; god forbid somebody's buns might fall off. I still have fond memories of that green Viper at Thunderhill that provided a similar experience--good thing he'd "upgraded" the thing in various ways before hitting the track. It looked faster parked. We do live in the era of the participation trophy, however . . .

Buy some real tires, like with treads or something. After doing so, avoid trailer burnouts for a more respectable life cycle. My Nitto NT05s work great, so long as 80% of my brakes aren't biased to the rear.

Thanks! She can be a slider with my horribly unsmooth input skills (as Rob would say).

I had some good fun with a Viper in the previous session. The 2019 Ford GT in my run group seemed to be doing parade laps.

I got me 2 of their t shirts.... this time was free. Sorry not sorry.



That's definitely Gold, Pony Boy. :D

[jarhead]

Thanks! She can be a slider with my horribly unsmooth input skills (as Rob would say).



I had some good fun with a Viper in the previous session. The 2019 Ford GT in my run group seemed to be doing parade laps.



I got me 2 of their t shirts.... this time was free. Sorry not sorry.







That's definitely Gold, Pony Boy. :D



“That’s Gold” [emoji23] perfect comeback


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[Flash68]

She put down about what we thought it would.

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[jarhead]

WOW, Congrats!

[DBasher]

She put down about what we thought it would.


So it SHOULD be a fast car.
:thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

So it SHOULD be a fast car.
:thumbsup:

:D


#Bashergonnabash

[Vegas69]

This is all the car you need Grandpa. Looks like a hell of a good time.

[DBasher]

A wise old man always tells me, sometimes it’s better to be lucky then smart...so with that. Good luck this weekend, hope to see you advance come Sunday!
:thumbsup::flag2:

[Flash68]

This is all the car you need Grandpa. Looks like a hell of a good time.

You are so right. This car makes me feel in no hurry to pilot an 800 hp 68 Camaro.... in due time.

Having a blast working on my skills (and balls) in this dirty little rat.

A wise old man always tells me, sometimes it’s better to be lucky then smart...so with that. Good luck this weekend, hope to see you advance come Sunday!
:thumbsup::flag2:

I am often lucky.... but I was not too smart this weekend.... made too aggressive of a pass in the final lead-follow session on Sunday to get bumped to Group 4. So now I have to do it again next time. :lol:

Still, had a great weekend running the car and really like the NASA environment and classroom downloads after each session. Great learning environment - these NASA instructors all actually want you to get better and move up the ladder. So until next time.... :cheers:

[DBasher]

Good times!
:cheers:

[Track Junky]

Good times!
:cheers:
Perfect background pic

Need help? Have questions? Text 69050 ��
Congrats on stepping up to HPDE 4 ����

[Flash68]

Good times!
:cheers:

it sure was ... even in the rain. That Weld is a perky bastage!

Perfect background pic

Need help? Have questions? Text 69050 ��
Congrats on stepping up to HPDE 4 ����

Ha -thanks! Get your junk together and I'll see you in Group 4. :cheers:

[Flash68]

Was at NASA Sonoma mostly in support of Greg and his car, but I did run both days in HPDE4 in my effort to get qualified for Time Trial license. And even though I had a wheels off incident I got the go ahead. Look out. LOL

I must say driving in 3 sessions of combined HPDE4 and TT -- with nearly 100 cars on track -- it was a blast and forced you to be absolutely aware and on your game at all times. It was so much FUN and great track experience. Best weekend I've had. Hanging with Greg and all of the mutual friends made it obviously so much better.

Did get 2 or 3 clean laps during the HPDE4 only sessions and improved my PB by 2 seconds so that was nice.

Anyway, I will be running TT1 class in September it looks like. Maybe that slow orange 69 Camaro of Gaetano will show up finally. :action-smiley-027:

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[Track Junky]

Lol. I’ve waited many years for a PT or Lat-G member to finally get into NASA Time Trials (preferably in an old school muscle car but....)so u can wait till my motors done....

[jarhead]

:peepwall: Sweet!

[Vegas69]

Lol. I’ve waited many years for a PT or Lat-G member to finally get into NASA Time Trials (preferably in an old school muscle car but....)so u can wait till my motors done....

Smoke him for me then run him into the sand would ya?

[Flash68]

Lol. I’ve waited many years for a PT or Lat-G member to finally get into NASA Time Trials (preferably in an old school muscle car but....)so u can wait till my motors done....

Touche.... :mock:

Smoke him for me then run him into the sand would ya?

:lol: :action-smiley-027:

[Flash68]

It's been a blast but the FOX is for sale. See For Sale thread here:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57131