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72Z/28
01-13-2017, 10:03 AM
Just wondering who has the following set up in his 1st gen camaro:
-Speedtech performance front clip
-Autokraft oil pan and their engine adapter plates and mounts
-Stainless steel works header (speedtech headers).
I know Evade Camaro has got this exact set up.
The reason why I am asking is that the unisteer rack and pinion mounting bracket was modified due to clearance issues caused by Milodon oil pan.
I recently replaced the Milodon oil pan with Autokraft Oil pan and also got their engine adapter plates and mounts.
I tried to install the rack and pinion at its proper mounting position on the Speedtech subframe. Unfortunately, I ran into two issues:
1) steering box high and low pressure ports were touching the oil pan ( very tight fit)
2) the shaft that fits between the u joint was a bit short due to the previous modification made as a result of clearance issues by Milodon oil pan.
Will appreciate your input guys on the following:
- is it normal to have a very tight fit ( steering box ports and oil pan)
-I had to order a new steering column shaft ( it is 23" that needs to be shortened). So could somebody tell me the required shaft length with the set up listed above?
I addressed the issue with the tight fit to Speedtech team, unfortunately no response yet.
Looking forward to getting your input guys.
nicks67ca
01-13-2017, 11:31 AM
I believe the "Blue Hour" Camaro has the sub/pan/steering rack combo.
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=31887&page=14&highlight=blue+hour
I think if you utilized the speed tech mounts vs the autokraft it should work. I'm going with the speed tech sub with the same rack. I will utilize the mast oil pan and the speed tech mounts which from what I understand work together.
72Z/28
01-13-2017, 12:07 PM
I believe the "Blue Hour" Camaro has the sub/pan/steering rack combo.
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=31887&page=14&highlight=blue+hour
I think if you utilized the speed tech mounts vs the autokraft it should work. I'm going with the speed tech sub with the same rack. I will utilize the mast oil pan and the speed tech mounts which from what I understand work together.
Thanks for the input. I have seen the Evade Camaro build thread, and it utilized the autokraft engine plates. However, I am not sure how the unisteer fit with the set up.
Not quite sure what is the difference between autokraft engine adapter plates and Speed tech ones.
I would also like to know the required length for the steering shaft. I will receive shaft soon and needs to be cut to the requird length.
I will check out the Blue Hour Camaro build.
nicks67ca
01-13-2017, 12:28 PM
I don't think there is specified length that needs to be cut for the steering shaft. From what i understand the shaft shouldn't protrude into the ujoint assembly.
from the SpeedTech Instructions
The steering shaft is typically left long to allow for trimming. Mock up the shaft assembly in place and trim as needed to ensure that the correct length is achieved.
When installing the shaft you MUST offset the u-joints by approximately 45 degrees. You will find one end is splined to allow the shaft to be rotated and “phased” to eliminate any binding. You may have to adjust the phasing slightly from this 45 degree starting position to completely eliminate any binding.
Also the rack has spacers that come with it and longer bolts.
From the instruction
You must remove the rack from the mounting bracket to get the driver side bolt
into it's position in the bracket. Apply anti-seize lubricant to the shank of the bolts,
install into bracket, then reinstall bracket onto rack body.
For proper alignment, refer to the installation instructions included with the rack
and pinion. The 2 mounting bolts must go in at the same time (see photo above)
and the bracket and spacers must end up flush against the frame. It may take 2
people to perform this procedure, it is a tight fit.
72Z/28
01-13-2017, 02:50 PM
I don't think there is specified length that needs to be cut for the steering shaft. From what i understand the shaft shouldn't protrude into the ujoint assembly.
from the SpeedTech Instructions
The steering shaft is typically left long to allow for trimming. Mock up the shaft assembly in place and trim as needed to ensure that the correct length is achieved.
When installing the shaft you MUST offset the u-joints by approximately 45 degrees. You will find one end is splined to allow the shaft to be rotated and “phased” to eliminate any binding. You may have to adjust the phasing slightly from this 45 degree starting position to completely eliminate any binding.
Also the rack has spacers that come with it and longer bolts.
From the instruction
You must remove the rack from the mounting bracket to get the driver side bolt
into it's position in the bracket. Apply anti-seize lubricant to the shank of the bolts,
install into bracket, then reinstall bracket onto rack body.
For proper alignment, refer to the installation instructions included with the rack
and pinion. The 2 mounting bolts must go in at the same time (see photo above)
and the bracket and spacers must end up flush against the frame. It may take 2
people to perform this procedure, it is a tight fit.
Thanks Nick for the great input. Are the instructions available in Speedtech website. I am going to have a look
nicks67ca
01-13-2017, 03:17 PM
Yes you can download the pdf.
jimmythehand
01-13-2017, 05:39 PM
I have the speed tech front clip and torque arm, the speedtech motor mounts/plates, and holley oil pain. I had to reverse the mount/plates to get the clearance i needed from the unisteer, but it is really close.
72Z/28
01-13-2017, 06:17 PM
Yes you can download the pdf.
I have gone through the instructions, and it seems like the installation is on stock 1st gen subframe not Speedtech Subframe.
72Z/28
01-13-2017, 06:54 PM
I have the speed tech front clip and torque arm, the speedtech motor mounts/plates, and holley oil pain. I had to reverse the mount/plates to get the clearance i needed from the unisteer, but it is really close.
Could you please explain what you meant by reversing the mounts/plates in your case.
72Z/28
01-14-2017, 04:01 AM
Ok guys I found out how the autokraft engine mounts installed in Evade Camaro.
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/50998-Project-quot-Evade-quot
The engine mounts are flipped ( not installed as per the photo shown in Autokraft website).
So is this how it is supposed to be installed to prevent the oil pan flange from touching the rack & pinion inlet and outlet ports?
nicks67ca
01-14-2017, 05:49 AM
Protouring sub frame installation instructions on the bottom of the page.
http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=8/category_id=23/mode=prod/prd8.htm
72Z/28
01-14-2017, 07:39 AM
Protouring sub frame installation instructions on the bottom of the page.
http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=8/category_id=23/mode=prod/prd8.htm
Thanks Nick. The instructions will definitely help with the installation.
Hopefully someone will chim in regarding the engine mounts installation as I have seen two ways of installing them. Not sure about tje reason though.
Blake Foster
01-14-2017, 03:05 PM
i got your email and replied to it. did the info i sent you help?
72Z/28
01-15-2017, 12:03 AM
i got your email and replied to it. did the info i sent you help?
Hi Blake
Unfortunayely I have not received any email from you yet. Might have been sent to a different email address. Will appreciate sending it again
partsguy57
01-15-2017, 07:54 PM
Just wondering who has the following set up in his 1st gen camaro:
-Speedtech performance front clip
-Autokraft oil pan and their engine adapter plates and mounts
-Stainless steel works header (speedtech headers).
I know Evade Camaro has got this exact set up.
The reason why I am asking is that the unisteer rack and pinion mounting bracket was modified due to clearance issues caused by Milodon oil pan.
I recently replaced the Milodon oil pan with Autokraft Oil pan and also got their engine adapter plates and mounts.
I tried to install the rack and pinion at its proper mounting position on the Speedtech subframe. Unfortunately, I ran into two issues:
1) steering box high and low pressure ports were touching the oil pan ( very tight fit)
2) the shaft that fits between the u joint was a bit short due to the previous modification made as a result of clearance issues by Milodon oil pan.
Will appreciate your input guys on the following:
- is it normal to have a very tight fit ( steering box ports and oil pan)
-I had to order a new steering column shaft ( it is 23" that needs to be shortened). So could somebody tell me the required shaft length with the set up listed above?
I addressed the issue with the tight fit to Speedtech team, unfortunately no response yet.
Looking forward to getting your input guys.
I have speed tech front and rear suspension. GM Bowtie block, autocraft pan, ultimate headers 17/8 tube. Everything fit perfectly only thing I did was cut the engine stands and move the engine back a additional 1/2 inch for added clearance for the elbow off the throttle body and better weight distribution. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/ac0c51b02a2f55b45bcecee4eefb9ed2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/6229627be432a38c204d231f248d81f5.jpg
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