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Decline
06-28-2016, 11:34 AM
I got the specs from Morrison for the rack,2gpm 1100 psi
Narrowed down my choices to Turn one Jones racing and Sweet. Also leaning towards integral reservoir for easier cleaner install
anyone have experience with any of these manufactures, do the caps leak?
The main thing I am trying to avoid is the "weeping" issue I've read about from DSE integral style. Also thinking of going plastic Rez since it should absorb less heat
as for the pumps themselves the jones and the turn one are around the same price and the sweet is about $100 cheaper. No company's specifically say what they do to the pumps to make them better except jones who claims they CNc them to their specs and dyno them on a flow bench to confirm the rates. Plus jones is by far the most "bling". All the parts look super nice so I'm leaning towards them right now
thoughts opinions?
Blake Foster
06-28-2016, 12:38 PM
I got the specs from Morrison for the rack,2gpm 1100 psi
Narrowed down my choices to Turn one Jones racing and Sweet. Also leaning towards integral reservoir for easier cleaner install
anyone have experience with any of these manufactures, do the caps leak?
The main thing I am trying to avoid is the "weeping" issue I've read about from DSE integral style. Also thinking of going plastic Rez since it should absorb less heat
as for the pumps themselves the jones and the turn one are around the same price and the sweet is about $100 cheaper. No company's specifically say what they do to the pumps to make them better except jones who claims they CNc them to their specs and dyno them on a flow bench to confirm the rates. Plus jones is by far the most "bling". All the parts look super nice so I'm leaning towards them right now
thoughts opinions?
we have used both Jones and Sweet. Drive Junkie uses Jones, jones is pretty specific on some of the requirements don't spin it over 7000 use synthetic fluid with a cooler. Jones is probably the better of the 2
Decline
06-28-2016, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the reply.
I already went ahead and purchased the Jones integral setup from the man himself. The fact that he will build it to my slightly irregular specs and provide a flow sheet to confirm the numbers is worth the premium to me.
I was not aware of the RPM limitation. While that currently isn't a problem with my small block, it's good to know for my "someday" LS swap.
Also I will be adding a setrab 13 or 16 row stacked cooler. Lines and fittings are going to come from Brown and Miller
My DSE rack already has a nice feel to it, hoping this improves it even further since it will finally be getting the proper flow from cool high quality fluid
Blake Foster
06-28-2016, 03:42 PM
Thanks for the reply.
I already went ahead and purchased the Jones integral setup from the man himself. The fact that he will build it to my slightly irregular specs and provide a flow sheet to confirm the numbers is worth the premium to me.
I was not aware of the RPM limitation. While that currently isn't a problem with my small block, it's good to know for my "someday" LS swap.
Also I will be adding a setrab 13 or 16 row stacked cooler. Lines and fittings are going to come from Brown and Miller
My DSE rack already has a nice feel to it, hoping this improves it even further since it will finally be getting the proper flow from cool high quality fluid
the 7000 rpm is the PUMP speed not the engine speed. We use a 5.5" crank pulley and a 6.5" PS pulley to keep it down when the LS is at 7300
most front drives use a larger Crank than PS pulley which over drives the pump. some can get as high as 8500 rpm with 6500 crank rpm just something to check
Decline
07-02-2016, 07:59 PM
Pump just arrived this afternoon. Man are these parts pretty, the fact that they work so well is icing. After seeing how nice everything is I might have to pony up later for the aluminum reservoir to admire more of their craftsmanship. I mean c'mon, they laser etched the logo into the port caps.
Blake Foster
07-05-2016, 10:08 AM
Pump just arrived this afternoon. Man are these parts pretty, the fact that they work so well is icing. After seeing how nice everything is I might have to pony up later for the aluminum reservoir to admire more of their craftsmanship. I mean c'mon, they laser etched the logo into the port caps.
yea that you just throw away!!
Decline
07-08-2016, 01:15 AM
I saved the caps. I've got -6 all over the place, they might come in handy
Here's a pic of the pump installed. The supplied bracket kind of necessitates running the hose in front of the Rez. Not winning any awards for my hose routing. After the fact I realized a custom hardline could have got me around the back and thru the hole. Kind of like the DSE banjo. Jones should make one of these.
The jones pump has made the steering slightly heavier which is welcomed and it is smoother over all. Like turning the wheel thru thicker oil maybe? Hard to describe. Definitely smoother tho. I don't think it increased feedback at all. Only have around 30 miles on it so far. Most importantly it doesn't leak it doesn't squeal and it won't kill my rack with excessive pressure..
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