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Ben@SpeedTech
02-22-2016, 12:50 PM
Hey everyone- You've heard of our new ExtReme C10 full frames as seen in our '67 C10 shop truck. Without major tuning it handled so well it took 1st place trophies it's first time on the track. Click here to see it... (http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=422/category_id=7/mode=prod/prd422.htm)

Then came our ExtReme subframes for Camaros and Novas which have been flying out of the warehouse and will soon be popping up at events. Click here to check them out! (http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=177/mode=cat/cat177.htm)

Now that same awesome totally new suspension is underway for '64-72 A body cars!

Our first test car for the '68-72 A bodies is this beautiful '69 GTO project brought up by Tony from Las Vegas. Starting with a shell in great shape, we'll be dropping the GM chassis out and replacing it with our new ExtReme full chassis, including the same geometry/ front suspension as the C10 and the subframes, and out back will be our famous Torque Arm!

Some may ask why not leave well enough alone. Well, we're not after "well enough" in our suspension design, we want to see our customers win races rather than just participate. We all know that the triangulated 4 link with a few tweaks does ok in handling, but it still has issues with bind and potential for wheel hop. The Torque Arm on the other hand allows for less bind in a greater amount of articulation, and won't disrupt handling by maxing out. It also allows adjustable ride height, roll center, pinion angle, instant center, and wheelbase.

Here's my Photoshop rendering to get the ball rolling...

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/Comparison%20dk%20wheels_zpssyrw2owf.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech
02-22-2016, 12:59 PM
Some more before shots....

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20001_zpsyhe89dlp.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20004_zpsht9cg3tz.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20003_zpsa8rbyqq3.jpg

Not only will this GTO have a killer suspension, the drivetrain is in normal Speedtech fashion, plenty of power. Tony brought up this stroked LS2 packing boost by way of a Whipple supercharger going through Trick Flow heads. Woohoo, GT-go!

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20006_zps56rh4ixs.jpg

Che70velle
02-22-2016, 01:07 PM
Can't stop smiling....this will be full of awesome!

Ben@SpeedTech
02-22-2016, 01:18 PM
That it will!

And the tear down begins. Stay tuned for more...

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20005_zpszygyb132.jpg

Build-It-Break-it
02-22-2016, 01:29 PM
Very cool to see a gto get built.

214Chevy
02-22-2016, 01:59 PM
Gonna be sweet!! That's for sure...:bigun2: :bigun2:

Ron Sutton
02-22-2016, 02:18 PM
Sweet !

:cheers:


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andrewb70
02-22-2016, 04:44 PM
Looking forward to this.

What size tire do you think you can get on an A-body with your frame?

Also, what sort of anti-squat properties does the rear suspension have? I realize that optimized handling is the point, but I do like going drag racing on occasion.

Andrew

1968 GTO Resto-Mod
02-22-2016, 05:40 PM
right on!!!
so rad to see another gto project!
looking forward to seeing how this one comes together.
cheers,
danny

Che70velle
02-22-2016, 06:02 PM
Do you guys have a CAD drawing of the chassis that you could post up? Need pics!!!!

FaBrycation
02-22-2016, 06:08 PM
Dig the concept! I've Always been a fan of this body style

califconstruct
02-23-2016, 03:43 AM
Definitely Sweet!!🏎

Ben@SpeedTech
02-23-2016, 07:25 AM
Thanks everyone!

@ Che70- No postable CAD drawings yet. We have the prototype built but as with any R&D there may be some real world tweaking to the design as we put things together. Our two number one goals ;) are to get the geometry that we want and make sure everything easily bolts in with nice fitment. We'll post more on the frame as things unfold.

@ Andrew- Quoting Ron Sutton, "The chassis, suspension & frame are all designed to be optimum with a 315/30/18 front tire. While you can run larger in the rear, for handling purposes, I suggest the same 315/30/18 in the rear too. The ExtReme full chassis for the A-Body has all the same benefits as the F-Body clip we've been discussing. The dimensions are slightly different to achieve that optimization for the A-Body, so the result is the same.
As far as the Speedtech Torque Arm set-up in the full chassis, it will have 60% anti-squat."

pro66tour
02-23-2016, 08:12 AM
Ben,
By the time my car finally hits the road, my complete Track Time Kit will be vintage...:lmao: Love it bud, keep the ingenuity coming...

illmatic96ss
02-23-2016, 09:16 AM
so wil the chassis bolt right in like the stock one ?

Blake Foster
02-23-2016, 01:31 PM
so wil the chassis bolt right in like the stock one ?

That is the idea. there may be a few places that need to be trimmed. The tunnel will need to be removed but we will have a kit to replace it as well.

WSSix
02-23-2016, 06:17 PM
Yet another cool project. Glad to see some Pontiac A bodies get the love.

illmatic96ss
02-23-2016, 09:50 PM
please post pics of the chassis :y0!:

Centerforce
02-25-2016, 05:53 PM
Can already tell this is gonna be good! Cant wait to see more of it.

steveracer33
02-26-2016, 09:36 AM
also looking forward to this build! I have a 65 lemans coup begging for a new chassis also.

HEEP
03-08-2016, 07:05 PM
That is the idea. there may be a few places that need to be trimmed. The tunnel will need to be removed but we will have a kit to replace it as well.

Do you have the tunnel kit on your site, or pics you can post here? I have been wondering what I am going to do for a tunnel.

Ben@SpeedTech
08-30-2016, 11:01 AM
Out with the old. You can see what a factory frame minus springs looks like. That's not far off from the ride height potential the ExtReme frame has.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20007_zpsxdiq5s84.jpg

To prepare to swallow 345s out back a mintub was in order. Also note the contoured rear sheet metal removed and the insert that we provide to better conform to the shape of the new frame rails and suspension.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%200087_zpssqsjyjsd.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20009_zpswvgqm1q5.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech
08-30-2016, 12:03 PM
First mock ups of prototype frame...

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20012_zpsebiik2ye.jpg


http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20011_zps1q4uadjg.jpg


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Ben@SpeedTech
08-30-2016, 12:07 PM
Do you have the tunnel kit on your site, or pics you can post here? I have been wondering what I am going to do for a tunnel.

Ask and ye will receive... Because this chassis has such a low ride height we have created and added to our production lineup a high clearance complete trans tunnel insert. It comes in three main pieces that are easily fitted and welded into the floor.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20014_zpsgwp1xfdl.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20015_zps6r1fmjod.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20016_zpslxeg85iy.jpg

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Ben@SpeedTech
08-30-2016, 12:11 PM
Some pics of the bare "after the prototype's revisions" production frame. This car got our gunmetal grey metallic powder coating. Lookin good!

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20020_zpsclctiucu.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20021_zpsljlqqigf.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20022_zpsafjqwnuv.jpg

More coming soon...

ScotI
08-30-2016, 04:16 PM
Very cool. Good ideas/products getting produced w/this.

64mali
08-30-2016, 08:23 PM
I'm excited to watch this one come together.

waynieZ
08-31-2016, 07:40 AM
Trans tunnel looks great. Nice job on the frame, I like the color.

1965_SS
08-31-2016, 07:55 AM
Looks great!:yes:
Nice to have a tunnel available for purchase.

From a side view, does the frame stick down lower from the body than stock, or less?

Are you able to use a Vaporworx tank, stock size? Or do you have to have a custom tank made?

Thanks!

BanditDave
08-31-2016, 08:30 AM
What are you thinking on a price point fully loaded for this guy...happen to have a '68 GTO chilling out in my garage (next project).

Dave

rallystyle
09-10-2016, 12:53 PM
with the tunnel kit what do you do about the floor braces ? good looking kit. work for a el camino ?

Ben@SpeedTech
09-27-2016, 03:06 PM
More Updates...

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20023_zpsr5lpuwxp.jpg

The motor you see here used to be in a 5th Gen Camaro that ran 10s in the 1/4 mile and laid down 696 hp to the wheels, roughly around 840 at the crank. Once together the GTO will also head down the drag strip, being lighter than the 5th gen will perhaps hit mid-low 10s.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20024_zpsykismc8t.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20025_zps8vybcndc.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20026_zpstqxyyiuz.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech
09-27-2016, 03:15 PM
with the tunnel kit what do you do about the floor braces ? good looking kit. work for a el camino ? The rigidity of the frame design makes up for blocking off the floor pan supports. Not sure on the Elky, we need a donor to drop by and let us have a look at the floor pan. ;) El Caminos are on the build list so in time they will be available.

1965_SS- You can see in the pics the stainless fuel tank that we use made by Rick's Tanks. These are available as an option when purchasing a chassis.

$14,500 is the price for a complete chassis and suspension w/9" axle housing with axles. Add brakes, a rear center, and wheels and tires and you have a complete roller. As mentioned fuel tanks, race specific valved coilovers, powder coating, engine mounts, oil pans, headers, etc. ... are available upgrades and add-ons.

Ben@SpeedTech
09-27-2016, 03:19 PM
Next objective was installing the frame into the car and having a good last look at clearance and suspension geometry at ride height. For this we installed 315 30 18s on the front and 335s out back. Everything is looking perfect and working out just as we anticipated. I know some of you will have questions about clearance and all, hopefully I have everything covered in the pics. If not let me know and maybe I can shoot something specific for you.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20030_zps2ybicpr9.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20031_zpsr9mdaayw.jpg

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http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20029_zpsumgqaon8.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech
09-27-2016, 03:21 PM
More install pics...

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20033_zpse4qdoo8y.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20034_zpssm6qw8la.jpg

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http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20037_zpskcbd6u0m.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech
09-27-2016, 03:23 PM
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20038_zpsgqjlwd1x.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20039_zpshvkmor6s.jpg


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http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20041_zpschpbdpiw.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech
09-27-2016, 03:24 PM
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20042_zps0svwennh.jpg

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Ben@SpeedTech
09-27-2016, 03:26 PM
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20048_zpsr7rktsim.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/69%20GTO%20Silver%20049_zpspygyckck.jpg

1968 GTO Resto-Mod
09-27-2016, 03:46 PM
so badass! great work, ben!
really liking where this one is heading... that power plant looks beast sitting on there!!!
keep us updated please!
danny

1965_SS
09-27-2016, 06:12 PM
Looks awesome Ben!
Thanks for the pics...........keep them coming:thumbsup:
Sending PM...........

Terryd
09-27-2016, 07:19 PM
Insanely awesome!

SSLance
09-27-2016, 08:32 PM
Holey Wow!!!

preston
09-27-2016, 09:45 PM
I'd like to see a better picture of those LCA's once you get it up on a lift.

Having Ron on your team is a huge advantage, frame looks good. The rack fits in there so nice and tight !

Centerforce
09-28-2016, 04:51 PM
Flawless work, guys! This car is so close to being done.

1965_SS
10-14-2016, 10:41 PM
I went and saw this build in person a couple days ago. Awesome frame and work done on this car.:thumbsup:

no go nova
10-15-2016, 03:49 AM
Frame looks great and who's rack and pinion is that? Can't wait to see this tear up the track.

Che70velle
10-15-2016, 07:57 AM
Not sure how I missed the last updates...very well done guys, and extremely affordable pricing!

Ben@SpeedTech
11-01-2016, 09:22 AM
Thanks guys! We're using Sweet for our rack and pinions. Compared to other brands we've used, not only are they precision built with racing in mind but they also handle well the abuse of the wider sticky tires.

preston
11-01-2016, 09:39 AM
Does the Sweet R&P feel every bit as streetable as the OEM based racks ?

I ask because I have a brand W rack which is a nice piece but I found the servo to have a lot of internal seal drag (stiction) which you could feel in the wheel. It wasn't an issue on track or once you got into the turn but it was very annoying while making micro-corrections on rutted roads. It may have been exacerbated by using it inline rather than directly attached to the rack even though there is no logical reason for that to be true.

waynieZ
11-01-2016, 07:04 PM
Nice job It looks great.

67goatman455
11-05-2016, 07:40 PM
Holy crap i cant stop drooling! I'm gunna have to ditch all my SPC stuff and go with your universal front frame kit for my next revision!

GEARBOXGARAGE
01-23-2017, 03:52 PM
Hey Ben, what are the holes in front of the shock tower on the front?

Also, do you have a sheet metal package for the trans tunnel modification and above the rear end in the trunk? I've been talking to Roger there in tech support and I'd like to get all of the sheet metal to modify the floor so it is ready to fit the chassis when I eventually by one.

Build-It-Break-it
01-23-2017, 05:51 PM
Hey Ben, what are the holes in front of the shock tower on the front?


They're to mount forward down bars from the firewall to those mounting points.

Ben@SpeedTech
01-31-2017, 10:22 AM
Thanks for covering that question Ahmad!

Backing up a bit, some of the work we did to the under side of the car, cleaning up and smoothing the firewall and prepping everything for paint and box liner.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/Sisson%20Camaro%20042a_zpsoermwhlw.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/Sisson%20Camaro%20042_zps989wbffk.jpg

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Ben@SpeedTech
01-31-2017, 10:23 AM
We like to use black epoxy primer to seal everything first, including the interior areas. Then in the exposed areas and the trunk we use spray on box liner as a second application. It's super durable, has a nice color and sheen to it, and along with the texture gives a nice contrast to the shiny frame and suspension parts. We're like form and function here.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/Sisson%20Camaro%20044_zps2xhrncby.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/Sisson%20Camaro%20045_zpsbg9kyflt.jpg

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WSSix
02-01-2017, 07:04 AM
Looks good, Ben. Keep up the great work, guys!

E.rodz
02-03-2017, 12:22 PM
where was this a year and a half ago when I started modifiying the hell out of mine.? :( do the wheel wells need to be rolled I would assume. and does the upper part of the fender have to be trimmed as well as the inner fenders? how is the clearance with the inner tie rod bolts to oil pan clearance at full lock? is the body solid mounted ?and one last one for now what is the outside to outside of the front and rear tires? looks great keep up the great work!! love the ride height!!!

Ron Sutton
02-03-2017, 02:40 PM
Hi Eric, I can answer some of these questions.

where was this a year and a half ago when I started modifiying the hell out of mine.? :(
On my design table. LOL

do the wheel wells need to be rolled I would assume. and does the upper part of the fender have to be trimmed as well as the inner fenders?
Not required, but doing so allows you to run an even larger tire or move them outward some.

how is the clearance with the inner tie rod bolts to oil pan clearance at full lock?
No issues.

is the body solid mounted ?
One of the Speedtech guys will need to answer this.

and one last one for now what is the outside to outside of the front and rear tires? looks great keep up the great work!! love the ride height!!!

With 315's in the front, it can be as narrow as 69.2" outside sidewall to outside sidewall. 71.2" with 335's. It can be wider ... with less backspacing of the rims. But it can't be narrower.

Ben@SpeedTech
02-07-2017, 10:28 AM
As always thanks for the input Ron!

@E Rodz- That depends on wheel offset and tire size. If you want the fatties on there yes, as with any build similar to this some mild modding is necessary. On the GTO Jeremy rolled up the lip, then trimmed the outer side of the inner fenders so they're straight rather than curving downward and then added about 2" of sheet metal in that area, shaped to contour the outer fender. That moved the inner fenders inward 2" for more turning radius clearance. At the lip the inner fenders are bolted to the outers on the front and rear and on top are sealed off to the outer fender with a rubber strip. Jeremy also did a little bit of reshaping around the control arms since having optimum geometry meant relocating the upper mounts. The end result looks factory, unless you really knew the small details of these cars.

The body is solid mounted, using anodized aluminum bushings that we manufacture in house. You have two options, A. factory height, and B. half height which are about 1/2" tall and drop the car that extra 1/2" without change in suspension geometry.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/GTO%20Inner%20Fend%2011%2072_zpsbezs6mzb.jpg

E.rodz
02-13-2017, 12:23 PM
Hi Eric, I can answer some of these questions.



With 315's in the front, it can be as narrow as 69.2" outside sidewall to outside sidewall. 71.2" with 335's. It can be wider ... with less backspacing of the rims. But it can't be narrower.
thanks for your help Ron! I really appreciate it! this answers a lot of questions !
[QUOTE=Ben@SpeedTech;653914]As always thanks for the input Ron!

@E Rodz- That depends on wheel offset and tire size. If you want the fatties on there yes, as with any build similar to this some mild modding is necessary. On the GTO Jeremy rolled up the lip, then trimmed the outer side of the inner fenders so they're straight rather than curving downward and then added about 2" of sheet metal in that area, shaped to contour the outer fender. That moved the inner fenders inward 2" for more turning radius clearance. At the lip the inner fenders are bolted to the outers on the front and rear and on top are sealed off to the outer fender with a rubber strip. Jeremy also did a little bit of reshaping around the control arms since having optimum geometry meant relocating the upper mounts. The end result looks factory, unless you really knew the small details of these cars.

The body is solid mounted, using anodized aluminum bushings that we manufacture in house. You have two options, A. factory height, and B. half height which are about 1/2" tall and drop the car that extra 1/2" without change in suspension geometry.

Thanks for the response this really helps paint a bigger picture! man I wish you guys would have built this a year and a half ago! although I can fabricate a chassis myself it is so time consuming and there are so many details to work out I wish I would have gone this route!!! great job on the engineering and design guys!

JohnJ@RideTech
02-14-2017, 02:32 PM
Nice build guys. Looks like its coming along great!

Ben@SpeedTech
03-16-2017, 09:18 AM
Thanks!!

Moving forward with the engine install, lots to do here. This shows the positioning pretty well in the ExtReme chassis. We make custom air intakes for each car, that way we can control exactly where and how we place the air filter. Note we had to machine the "whipple" logo off the supercharger for hood clearance. With some slight mods to the underside of the hood support this all fits under a stock hood!

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/SpeedTechPerformance/69%20GTO%20Silver/01%20GTO%20Engine%20001_zpsaupaifri.jpg

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Ben@SpeedTech
03-16-2017, 09:19 AM
Off to the side will be a custom air box that opens up to the grill area for cool fresh air. Up front we have a radiator, A/C condenser, intercooler, and uber heavy duty oil, power steering and trans coolers. Lots of plumbing on deck! Custom radiator support and brackets will be powdercoated silver to match the engine bay.

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raustinss
03-16-2017, 09:25 AM
With all the measurements lol

preston
03-16-2017, 09:31 AM
Everything looks so pro !
Maybe because you guys are professionals ? :confused59:

Ben@SpeedTech
03-21-2017, 08:42 AM
The GTO's brakes were feeling a little lonely, luckily the new wheels and tires finally showed up. Check out the impact that brushed nickel has, man that's a cool look! This car sports 295-30-19s up front and 345-30-20s out back.

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preston
03-21-2017, 08:50 AM
Is brushed nickel a normal option or did you get special treatment ?
I looked into that a few years ago and Forgeline told me they quit offering it as it was a difficult and expensive treatment and they were dropping it as an option.

Obviously it looks great.

214Chevy
03-21-2017, 12:26 PM
Is brushed nickel a normal option or did you get special treatment ?
I looked into that a few years ago and Forgeline told me they quit offering it as it was a difficult and expensive treatment and they were dropping it as an option.

Obviously it looks great.

Same thing here...I called Forgeline and they told me the exact same thing.

Ben@SpeedTech
03-23-2017, 10:08 AM
The rim's hoops were done by a 3rd party. It is a pain in the rear process and very costly, but was a specific request for this build. I think Forgeline said the same to us.

Ben@SpeedTech
03-23-2017, 10:09 AM
A couple more pics of the cool, ...er, cooling parts. Dual fans, radiator, condenser, intercooler, then fluid coolers. Jeremy's still working on the plumbing and wiring so that'll all be routed and tucked in there nicely when he's done.

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Ben@SpeedTech
03-23-2017, 10:10 AM
Next up was the roll bar. Not intended to be NHRA legal, our customer wanted a 4 pt bar with rear seat access. Jeremy custom bent this one to be practical and tucked in there nice and neat.

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214Chevy
03-23-2017, 11:01 AM
The rim's hoops were done by a 3rd party. It is a pain in the rear process and very costly, but was a specific request for this build. I think Forgeline said the same to us.

That's what they told me...that it was costly. But, what I don't understand is, if a customer is willing to pay the price...what's the big deal. Hell, if guys will pay upwards of $7k, $8k, $10k for a set of wheels, why deprive him because of a few more dollars. Can't be anymore costly than those $16k carbon fiber wheels they now sell. Not trying to be a complainer, but just stating the obvious that there's evidently a niche for them if guys are asking for it, that's all. Can you PM me the company that did these for you all.

Centerforce
03-24-2017, 11:07 AM
BEAUTIFUL engine bay and cooling setup!

Ben@SpeedTech
04-06-2017, 09:25 AM
Thanks!!

The interior is outsourced on this car down in Las Vegas so we'll have more pics when it comes back. Stay Tuned!

imsa fiero
05-20-2017, 02:00 PM
Any update on this car. I thought it was at LS fest.

Ben@SpeedTech
06-06-2017, 02:15 PM
Quick update- The underneath is mostly done, the exhaust system being the latest venture. Notice this is 3" stainless tubing with some electric cut outs for play time. I'll have more pics up soon that show all the details under here.

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Ben@SpeedTech
06-06-2017, 02:17 PM
Any update on this car. I thought it was at LS fest.

It was on display at LS Fest however it still wasn't quite done yet. Other projects had to be wrapped up to make room to get back on it so more to come soon!

Ben@SpeedTech
06-08-2017, 10:44 AM
More pics of chassis and exhaust detail, front suspension here. Note things like the tie down hooks for trailering and splined sway bars are standard on ExtReme frames. This customer chose to run 295-30-19s up front, although the suspension is designed to accept 315s. Everything about this frame is design to be the missing link between street cruiser and race track thrasher. One thing I think is cool is the inclination angle on the front shocks is more effective allowing for a lighter rate spring to achieve heavier rate handling characteristics. Headers are designed to play nice with this super low stance. The spindle was redesigned to have even better geometry for even better handling than our current AFX spindle. Any questions or comments feel free to post 'em up!

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Ben@SpeedTech
06-08-2017, 10:45 AM
Mid section here. As mentioned this car has 3" exhaust that tucks nicely parallel to the Torque Arm. We considered a triangulated 4 link for the A body cars when this chassis was in development mostly because that's what everyone was used to for these cars. That idea quickly got axed to run our Torque Arm instead, there's so many advantages to this system it just didn't make sense to run a 4 link. If you've never experienced how smooth and predictable our torque arm is, next time you're at an event ask a Speedtech equipped car's owner for a ride along.

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Ben@SpeedTech
06-08-2017, 10:46 AM
Rear suspension. One of the biggest challenges with any lowered Pro Touring car is exhaust clearance, some rear suspensions make it more difficult than others. Our Torque Arm with it's panhard bar is tight too, but still allows ample room for a 3" system. We don't have a specific exhaust kit available, we usually buy a SW mandrel bent stainless universal builder kit and custom fit it to the car. Dutchman preps our 9" axles including welding on all Torque Arm brackets.

Unique to Speedtech are our 2-peice "Articulink" lower trailing arms that use components machined from billet steel to allow the arms to rotate with suspension articulation. This really makes for smooth transitions as you throw the car back and forth in the curves and over bumps in the road. Note that the arms have multiple mount position options as do the shocks so that you can maximize performance with your desired ride height. That billet lower shock mount can be flipped for a 1 1/2" difference in ride height without adjusting the shock at all. This suspension works so well a rear sway bar isn't typically necessary unless you're running a LARGE front sway bar for racing and the rear bar is needed to balance and reduce understeer. We like to use Rick's Tanks for our builds, they come with the extra clearance of notched corners and pretty much any fuel pump requirement provisions.

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68EFIvert
06-09-2017, 09:55 AM
That is a well designed setup. It looks fantastic!

Ben@SpeedTech
06-16-2017, 12:58 PM
Final pics before it heads home. There is still some work to be done, including the hood tach which is off getting re-faced to match the interior gauges and some of the interior work which will get done at the upholstery shop down in Vegas. It's been a great project to work on and turned out just beautiful. Enjoy!

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Ben@SpeedTech
06-16-2017, 12:58 PM
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Ben@SpeedTech
06-16-2017, 12:59 PM
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Ben@SpeedTech
06-16-2017, 12:59 PM
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preston
06-17-2017, 10:23 PM
This car came out so nice.
Looks totally like a Chevelle, no wacky body mods (but all cleaned up), but so low and mean with 315
s on the front. And for those of us in the know, Ron Sutton magic. Excellent job, I'm not a GM guy or much of a Chevelle fan at all, but this car is a perfect confection of stock appeal and badness.

OH how I wish these kind of solutions were available 15 years ago ! Although realistically I could never have afforded them anyway :(

WSSix
06-17-2017, 10:53 PM
Came out great! Good job, guys!

andrewb70
06-19-2017, 05:28 AM
This car came out so nice.
Looks totally like a Chevelle, no wacky body mods (but all cleaned up), but so low and mean with 315
s on the front. And for those of us in the know, Ron Sutton magic. Excellent job, I'm not a GM guy or much of a Chevelle fan at all, but this car is a perfect confection of stock appeal and badness.

OH how I wish these kind of solutions were available 15 years ago ! Although realistically I could never have afforded them anyway :(

It go so cleaned up that it became a Pontiac GTO!!!

Andrew

Ben@SpeedTech
06-19-2017, 10:05 AM
Thanks everyone! As mentioned it still has a little work to be done on the interior which will be finished up by the shop down in Vegas the customer has used in the past. After the wiper motor and hood tach are replaced it should be a completed driver. Overall it came out super clean, nothing over the top except maybe HP output.

We used this car to develop the Chevelle ExtReme chassis and it's designed to fit 315s as you can see in earlier pics but the customer chose this 19" wheel and particular front tire in a 285mm combo for the GTO. Still looks plenty wide!

GregWeld
06-19-2017, 01:34 PM
I must have been on my meds and missed this one.... although I think I saw it before it got started sitting out back.


WhyTF didn't I bring the '40 down??



It really turned out great!!

Gscherer78ta
06-20-2017, 06:18 AM
I love those wheels! The entire car is great with a lot of great craftsmanship but, I love the wheels...

Ben@SpeedTech
06-20-2017, 07:59 AM
Thanks Greg!

And Greg- you still can! - ;)

Blake Foster
06-20-2017, 11:12 AM
I must have been on my meds and missed this one.... although I think I saw it before it got started sitting out back.


WhyTF didn't I bring the '40 down??



It really turned out great!!

well and there is the question of the day?
could have saved you a 1000 miles

GregWeld
06-20-2017, 11:14 AM
well and there is the question of the day?
could have saved you a 1000 miles

DOH!


Next time!!