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Carlsson
02-19-2016, 09:45 PM
Hello,
I have a Camaro 67, disc brakes in the front and drum breaks in the rear.
It's my sixth year with the car and its in really good condition. And every year I update something.
This year it about brakes. I have always liked wilwood brakes, but that's actually most for the looks of it. I have been absolutely shure that those brakes is going on my car. After calling some of few dealers here in Sweden that has them I was just... Confused.
So I need help!
First things first:
The car is first of all a cruiser on sunny days...and to be clear: it's Sweden! Not California. The sunny days is so rare so when it do shines people almost get stressed out;)
What I mean is that it's not exactly a daily driver. More cruising and meet/show.

BUT I still don't want to just put on something for the looks. When suspenison and brakes are completed I may want to put in a bigger engine. so if I'm doing this brake Upgrade, then it's gonna be good and stand up for 500hp if so.

I'm the rear I have the 8,2" 10 bolt axel, from factory, no diff. And it's here somewhere everything is getting hard.
Option 1: put in a diff and make this 10 bolt an update. (This is were I'm at now in my thoughts)
Option 2:build on something else like ford 9" etc.
As for shocks and springs I have hotckis multi leaf drop springs with red koni shocks (and a it turned out to be a completely new car... Amazing)
In the front there is Hotchkis springs. Everything else is stock.
But I also have plans here. I thought of doing the guldstrand mod but I don't know how easy it is right now. But i don't know if this would be an issue for the brake question though (I have stock spindles on).

The goal with the car: have a nice streetcar with a good feeling on the road (or track?) that also turns some heads on people once and while but also that have the details for a closer look.

So, wilwood? I like the 6 piston look in the front. Just for the looks. I'm pretty shure I would be satisfied with 4 piston when it comes to driving. But since I am a narcissist that likes attention, we need to remember the looks;)
I'm not necessarily updating both front and rear this year depending on what everything cost. This is gonna be expensive however I do so. Just the import charges is pretty much.
But is there any wilwood kit here that I should stay away from? There are maaaany options. One thing here that I find difficult is the change of offset?

I also emailed Tobin at kore3 since I see a lot of people mention him/them in several forums. And that is absolutely an option for me to go with there corvette brakes.

Baer is nice but out of my league I think. I'm not THAT cool:)

And then we have the cpp big wheel brake kit. And we'll, couldn't complain about the price. But in general you get what you pay for... With that sad I don't mean it's bad stuff. You also pay for a brand and profile, some people don't give a sh*t about that. Good for them, sounds easy living. But I'm not that person:)

Feel free to give me any input! I'm not an expert at all. But I don't rush into things and I'm really thankful and glad for every new stuff and experiences I can learn!

Spiffav8
02-19-2016, 10:34 PM
What wheels are you currently running or planning to run with the new brakes?

Welcome to Lateral-G.

:captain:

Carlsson
02-19-2016, 11:55 PM
Ah, even how much details you give there is always something missing.
18" right now and I like that. But I like the option over a 17" with a little more rubber sometimes to. So I don't now if I'm prepared to lock my self to to 18"...

And thank you!

Carlsson
02-20-2016, 12:12 AM
Maybe some pictures helps. Or gives any other ideas that doesn't concern brakes:)

Spiffav8
02-20-2016, 12:40 PM
Super clean and smooth looking car you have there. And I think 18"s are perfect on it.

Ok...so you've been talking to Corbin at KORE3. If it where me, I'd would be looking at the C5/C6 setup he has. I had basically the same setup on a 67 a few years back and it was awesome. My buddy Jeff runs it on his 68 and it will stop on a dime...or whatever the Swedish equivalent of a dime is. :lol: Both Jeffs car and my old one have the ATS spindles on them. A wonderful upgrade. I'm sure Blake and the crew at Speedtech will be happy to set you up with a pair. Corbin might also be able to supply them.

Hope this helps a bit.

Carlsson
02-20-2016, 01:10 PM
Thank you! A dime is pretty much the same size here;)
Yeah I looked in the speedtech catalog actually after reading around a little bit here. I'm looking for a long term solution that looks nice. Even if the looks is important it need to be a "good investment" that makes the handling and driving better and also IF I want 500hp (or... Off course I WANT) in the future the brakes AND the steering need to be good enough.
Thanks for the input!

Spiffav8
02-20-2016, 03:02 PM
Thank you! A dime is pretty much the same size here;)
Yeah I looked in the speedtech catalog actually after reading around a little bit here. I'm looking for a long term solution that looks nice. Even if the looks is important it need to be a "good investment" that makes the handling and driving better and also IF I want 500hp (or... Off course I WANT) in the future the brakes AND the steering need to be good enough.
Thanks for the input!

Sounds like you are on the right track. It's important to have a goal in mind and to stick to that goal. It sounds like the main thing you want is a solid and fun driver that performs and allows for a bit of future growth. Well....I've had that car AND I'm driving that car. My red 67 "The Bucket" had the setup I mentioned and and the ATS spindles. It also had aluminum bushings in the rear. It was powered by a decent SB350 and had a T-56 6 speed behind it. I LOVED driving that car and a lot of guys that came to visit said it was a build level that would more than satisfy them. Of course we all want more. LoL Right now I am storing my buddy Jeff's cars (JWcarguy) while he builds a shop. Of course the car has to be taken out and driven every now and then for "safety reasons". :lol: Jeff brake and suspension setup is a lot like what I had though he has the addition of the Hotchkis TVS kit in the rear. It also has a built L76 that's pushing 560hp. It's just silly fun. Honestly, if I where to build one that I would drive to and from work (and the weather is nice enough here that I could), it would have this suspension setup in it.

Looking forward to seeing what you do.

Jeff's 68 is the blue one on the right.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7K2SwGK/0/L/i-7K2SwGK-L.jpg

This was "The Bucket".
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sq8BWfS/0/M/i-sq8BWfS-M.jpg

Vega$69
02-20-2016, 05:36 PM
If and when you go big keep in mind you will have to have wheels designed to clear the larger calipers.

The advantage of C5/C6 is replacement parts and pads are easy to find and relatively inexpensive compared to Wilwood and Baer.

Carlsson
02-22-2016, 01:45 AM
Is this the spindle you talking about?

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=11/category_id=23/mode=prod/prd11.htm

Spiffav8
02-22-2016, 01:20 PM
Is this the spindle you talking about?

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=11/category_id=23/mode=prod/prd11.htm

That's the one.

Carlsson
02-24-2016, 12:58 PM
Ok, I went for the wilwood brakes. I got a "ok" price here in Sweden. I know it will look good but we'll see how easy it will be to put them on. Im a little bit worried that them will change the offset to much. As far as I can understand it will do that.

Bought this:

Rear: http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdRear.aspx?itemno=140-11398-DR

Front: http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-10510-DR

Spiffav8
02-24-2016, 08:25 PM
Ok, I went for the wilwood brakes. I got a "ok" price here in Sweden. I know it will look good but we'll see how easy it will be to put them on. Im a little bit worried that them will change the offset to much. As far as I can understand it will do that.

Bought this:

Rear: http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdRear.aspx?itemno=140-11398-DR

Front: http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-10510-DR


Nice! Fingers crossed that everything fits perfectly.