View Full Version : A recent road trip from Michigan to CA in my new P'car
glassman
12-17-2015, 06:25 PM
Hey all, been a Porsche fan all my life and the day finally came to own one. After two years research, some saving, My C2S 997.2 is in my garage.
Got the car as a 49.75 (50th) birthday gift to myself, after years of hard work, putting three kids through college, rebuilding a business from the ground up (19 years) it was finally time.
I went from wanting to purchase a 911 whatever (996?993?964?911?977?) to a
996 (budget of 20 to 30k) to 997 40 to 50K, to a GTS to a GT3, back down to a C2s. Reason being, i have a race car, and while the GT3 is probably my ulitmate dream car, I wanted a driver. A car my wife and I could take to LA, tour in comfort (not too racy) and basically, a car i WANT to use, not worry about. The C2S as opposed to the GTS, it really came down to a Looks thing for me. When I was at the Porsche August event in Monteray, i realized my first Porsche love was the 74 RS Carrera. So this car will be close to that look.
Future mods include, the sport classic wheels, lowering it, the ducktail by Getty, and possibly the Carrera decal down the side.....
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/CE2C1648-8F4F-4F85-8332-22CE9A43C044_1.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/CE2C1648-8F4F-4F85-8332-22CE9A43C044_1.jpg.html)
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/7004FFA5-11B5-445E-996E-2F9D8EFA4384.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/7004FFA5-11B5-445E-996E-2F9D8EFA4384.jpg.html)
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/525805E0-43E7-466E-80D4-3E6CCC428C02_1.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/525805E0-43E7-466E-80D4-3E6CCC428C02_1.jpg.html)
I took my 23 year old son with me, while we had a blast, the weather just sucked. I thought by going the "southern route" we'd miss most the weather. Well, thats what i get for thinking. Snowed in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and major rain in Ok and Missouri...made it home safe though...now to drive her and enjoy.
Che70velle
12-17-2015, 08:11 PM
Nice!
Forget what you paid. Forget about the weather. Several days with your son, on a road trip...in anything....going anywhere...priceless! Good for you!
MtotheIKEo
12-17-2015, 08:42 PM
Congratulations! I like your taste in cars. I have a 2nd gen in the garage right now and a P-car is on my wishlist for when my kids are done with college (likely 24+ years from now haha).
Spiffav8
12-18-2015, 01:15 AM
Awesome. Enjoy the ride and the adventures.
:captain:
SSLance
12-18-2015, 08:16 AM
Drove right by, didn't even wave.. :D
Nice car, sorry about all the weather on the trip but what better way to really test the car out!
Chad-1stGen
12-18-2015, 08:53 AM
Congratz!
Why Michigan? Great deal from there?
Try2paz
12-18-2015, 10:28 AM
beautiful car! congrats! Did you deal with Livermore Porsche.
WSSix
12-18-2015, 03:09 PM
Congrats, Mike! Enjoy the new ride.
89 RS
12-18-2015, 09:59 PM
Good for you, that's awesome.
Vince@Meanstreets
12-18-2015, 10:39 PM
it was nice knowing you Mike, going to miss you on the site.
Vince@Meanstreets
12-18-2015, 10:39 PM
:stirthepot:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Flash68
12-18-2015, 10:42 PM
it was nice knowing you Mike, going to miss you the site.
:stirthepot:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lmao:
glassman
12-19-2015, 08:23 AM
Nice!
Forget what you paid. Forget about the weather. Several days with your son, on a road trip...in anything....going anywhere...priceless! Good for you!
Yea, sure did. Just wished i'd done it in spring!!
Congratulations! I like your taste in cars. I have a 2nd gen in the garage right now and a P-car is on my wishlist for when my kids are done with college (likely 24+ years from now haha).
Thanx, i'm a car guy through and through.I'll be up there in both cars quite a bit.
Awesome. Enjoy the ride and the adventures.
:captain:
Thanx Captain....cool watchin your stuff on Instagum too..
Drove right by, didn't even wave.. :D
Nice car, sorry about all the weather on the trip but what better way to really test the car out!
I did Lance, thought of you in Ok too....you just couldn''t see my wave through all that "nice sunshine" i had going through (read dopler radar yellow, ugg)
Congratz!
Why Michigan? Great deal from there?
There were only three of what i was looking for in the country, Silver, 6spd, 09 or 010 or 011 (997.2 C2S), this one was not only the least miles and lowest price, it was at a dealer and its CPO'd...
beautiful car! congrats! Did you deal with Livermore Porsche.
Yes, they haven't had one like this in quite some time. A while back they had a GTS i really liked, but i wasn't fiscally ready then...
Congrats, Mike! Enjoy the new ride.
Thanx Trey, Cheers bud
Good for you, that's awesome.
Thanx, your 3rd is one of my faves btw. Im thinking of doing one in a couple of years...
it was nice knowing you Mike, going to miss you the site.
Wheres the "suck it" imogee?, BTw, i've done a sh!t ton too the 70 lately, heads, cam, new wiring harness, wegner acc drive, baer remaster, carbon hood. just haven't updated the build thread. Between doing that and building a pool house in the back yard (not too mention running the biz) 'i;ve been a little busy...
Just waitin on CJ to finalize the LS harness and we'll be firing it up...So I ain't goin anywhere anytime soon, sorry for the bad news
Vince@Meanstreets
12-19-2015, 10:21 AM
:lmao: :catfight: just saying.... I remember that guy that bought the new Jag and said the same thing. :badidea:
we try not using the word "fire" when referring to new work :mock:
how do you like that Wegner drive? its a work of art!!
glassman
12-19-2015, 08:28 PM
The Wegner set up is thee set up. Everything from Texas Speed and Wegner and Billett has been SPOT on in terms of fitmet and design.....Waaaay good decisions...
It took me about four hours to do the entire drive *(less plumbing) and i'm a backyard mechanic...
Flash68
12-20-2015, 11:40 AM
Very cool road trip with your son Mike. So what kind of cars is he into?
glassman
12-23-2015, 07:23 PM
Very cool road trip with your son Mike. So what kind of cars is he into?
Gibson's, Tama's, Giljan's, Stratocasters, lol, hes a musician, but likes cars and bikes. None of my kids got the gene... :shakehead:
We had a great time, but the weather.....doh!
Stuart Adams
12-23-2015, 07:38 PM
Fantastic. Sounds like a blast. Cool car.
JKnight
12-23-2015, 09:11 PM
Great car, would love it if you continue to update this thread with your experience as you go forward. I can't bring myself to buy a "practical" car to use as a daily driver so I'm curious as to your impressions of owning this generation 911.
fleetus macmullitz
12-24-2015, 03:03 AM
I'm going to hold off on posting till you post more pics Mike.
:BlahBlah: :BlahBlah:
glassman
12-24-2015, 09:28 AM
Great car, would love it if you continue to update this thread with your experience as you go forward. I can't bring myself to buy a "practical" car to use as a daily driver so I'm curious as to your impressions of owning this generation 911.
Jeff, i will, thanx. Driving this generation (997.2) is the reason i chose this model. My budget WAS much higher (GT3 or GTS) but practicality came too mind. This is a car i can take to LA to visit the kids ( i could take the Camaro but try parking that a Target or Holiday Inn, plus i've already had one nice ride "snatched" ). While this car is super nice, its not a collector car, its a driving machine.
This is the first Porsche i've ever owned and the first car i've ever purchased that i've saved up for (part is financed, but thats another discussion) and wanted. The Camaro (dis-traction) I love and may never sell, but i "ended up" with it, got it from some friends "totaled" and fixed it up....
Driving this car is like driving a scalpel, the difference between cutting your meat with a knife vs a scapel. So precise and thought out for the driver (performance minded)
I'm going to hold off on posting till you post more pics Mike.
:BlahBlah: :BlahBlah:
No doubt!!!! I need to update my build thread tooooooo....as the cars been down since August, its begining to take on "jack stand class" status...
John510
12-25-2015, 08:46 AM
Awesome! I love Porsche. I wouldn't mind owning a Cayenne as my family hauler.
Enjoy the new ride
glassman
01-14-2016, 07:06 PM
Well, i've driven it over 3k, and this is by far the best car i've ever driven. I'm lovin it so far....don't get me wrong, i love my F-body and its done well, cant wait for it to be done with this phase, but.... This car was and is absolutely set up for the driver. I'm 5'10, 180lbs this car just fits. The shifting, tach placement, steering gearing, torque, blindspots (lack of) and the list goes on and on....its modern day pro-touring, drives like a pro, and great for touring....
Not my house, just a jobsite i went to last eve, then took my bride to Mission Ranch in Carmel. Man, that place is nice!!!
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/FC1A83F5-A215-43FA-9F4D-3C0A2456CE27.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/FC1A83F5-A215-43FA-9F4D-3C0A2456CE27.jpg.html)
GregWeld
01-14-2016, 07:45 PM
Hahahahahaha --- sounds like you have a mistress! LOL
Nice photo by the way.
Panteracer
01-14-2016, 08:34 PM
Mikey
Sounds like you went to the dark side :)
Better it's not a new vette
Bob
glassman
01-14-2016, 10:00 PM
Hahahahahaha --- sounds like you have a mistress! LOL
Nice photo by the way.
Ha!! When i said my bride, it was/is Lady Pamela, my date of the last 29 years...
glassman
01-14-2016, 10:05 PM
Mikey
Sounds like you went to the dark side :)
Better it's not a new vette
Bob
Well, i dont think i'd kick a "vette" outa bed for eatin crackers, but this german thingy is just right.
A while back, i read an article in Car & Driver, and the writer said, "ya wanna know why the Germans and Japanese are kicking our a$$ at building cars? one word, NATO. Our greatest minds are going into defense contractors, while theirs are going into transportation".......well, i believe him....
OLDFLM
01-15-2016, 06:35 AM
"There is no substitute"... that quote from Risky Business has been in my head for over 30 years! LOL
Can't wait to see the mods you have planned for the car!
Could you post pics of examples of what's to come?
clill
01-15-2016, 06:36 AM
My German weapons. 928 isn't exactly a weapon.
camcojb
01-15-2016, 08:09 AM
My German weapons. 928 isn't exactly a weapon.
When did you get the coupe?
Che70velle
01-15-2016, 08:58 AM
Charley, the 911 is BBBBAD!
Blackhawk
01-15-2016, 02:07 PM
Very nice, I've always had a thing for the styling of the 911s as well, which fortunately has been pretty consistent over the years.
fearlessmark
01-15-2016, 05:51 PM
Almost got you to pull the trigger on the GT3... You got a nice car though, thanks for letting me try it out! Its the first one I've ever driven and I can see why they are liked as much as they are.
dkp993
01-16-2016, 07:56 PM
Welcome to the club. As a 15 year 993 owner I can confidently say you won't be disappointed! Congrats!
glassman
01-17-2016, 04:59 PM
"There is no substitute"... that quote from Risky Business has been in my head for over 30 years! LOL
Can't wait to see the mods you have planned for the car!
Could you post pics of examples of what's to come?
very close to this...want to do a retro 74 RS "modern" clone...
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/pic%20one%20like%20ours.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/pic%20one%20like%20ours.jpg.html)
glassman
01-17-2016, 05:01 PM
My German weapons. 928 isn't exactly a weapon.
You ever take the turbo to t-hill? or any 911? if so, whats it like? '
I'm going to do it, but later....still learning the blue car
JKnight
01-17-2016, 05:25 PM
very close to this...want to do a retro 74 RS "modern" clone...
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/pic%20one%20like%20ours.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/pic%20one%20like%20ours.jpg.html)
Damn....that's cool. Do it!
clill
01-17-2016, 07:10 PM
I had a 97 Turbo I bought new and took to a couple track days but it was wayy too easy to go fast. I was in beginner group and I would be on everyone's ass. It got boring. If I knew what I was doing back then it might have been more fun.
89 RS
01-17-2016, 10:23 PM
very close to this...want to do a retro 74 RS "modern" clone...
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/pic%20one%20like%20ours.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/pic%20one%20like%20ours.jpg.html)
I like it...that would be cool. It sounds like you are getting some seat time in as well, good stuff!
GregWeld
01-18-2016, 07:54 AM
My mother had one of these - said it didn't have enough power for her.
Musclerodz
01-18-2016, 11:11 AM
What year is it. My dad has a 996 that he NEVER drives. I drove it and while its nice balance wise, its not my '13 SS Camaro.
Flash68
01-18-2016, 11:13 AM
Well, when it comes to the 996 there's a female version (NA - non turbo) and there's a male version (twin turbo).
That is all you need to know. :D
glassman
01-18-2016, 06:06 PM
Well, when it comes to the 996 there's a female version (NA - non turbo) and there's a male version (twin turbo).
That is all you need to know. :D
Very different cars, very different engines.....Mezger all the way!! From what i understand, the 9A1 (the engine in the 997.2) is the basis of the Mezger (non-turbo one that is)....
Jay Hilliard
01-19-2016, 04:33 AM
Congrats Mike. Creating memories with your family and involving a car is always a good thing.
glassman
05-16-2016, 07:31 PM
How she resides now....
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/220E1D0D-4C0B-4925-A3E6-F1AB6ED6DEAF_1.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/220E1D0D-4C0B-4925-A3E6-F1AB6ED6DEAF_1.jpg.html)
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/26CE8A09-22D7-4558-BC66-2ED5D99C0887.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/26CE8A09-22D7-4558-BC66-2ED5D99C0887.jpg.html)
JKnight
05-16-2016, 10:11 PM
One of the very few times a car looks better with black-centered wheels (in my opinion of course, I know it's a popular look). Love the look, great car!
BMR Sales
05-17-2016, 07:00 AM
Hey all, been a Porsche fan all my life and the day finally came to own one. After two years research, some saving, My C2S 997.2 is in my garage.
Got the car as a 49.75 (50th) birthday gift to myself, after years of hard work, putting three kids through college, rebuilding a business from the ground up (19 years) it was finally time.
I went from wanting to purchase a 911 whatever (996?993?964?911?977?) to a
996 (budget of 20 to 30k) to 997 40 to 50K, to a GTS to a GT3, back down to a C2s. Reason being, i have a race car, and while the GT3 is probably my ulitmate dream car, I wanted a driver. A car my wife and I could take to LA, tour in comfort (not too racy) and basically, a car i WANT to use, not worry about. The C2S as opposed to the GTS, it really came down to a Looks thing for me. When I was at the Porsche August event in Monteray, i realized my first Porsche love was the 74 RS Carrera. So this car will be close to that look.
Future mods include, the sport classic wheels, lowering it, the ducktail by Getty, and possibly the Carrera decal down the side.....
Very Nice! I've owned two "Real" '74 Carreras, one a RS. Getty makes very nice parts! For the Carrera Decal, find Joe Bob on the Pelican Forums. Are the New Fuchs Forged or Cast ( they are available in both)
my Carrera Clone built on a '84 Carrera
[URL=http://s24.photobucket.com/user/TractionControl/media/TractionControl001/18_zpszfyznbgf.jpg.html]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/TractionControl/TractionControl001/18_zpszfyznbgf.jpg (http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/mikearmienti/media/CE2C1648-8F4F-4F85-8332-22CE9A43C044_1.jpg.html)
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/TractionControl/posted/post-5565-1362833752_zps9eb6c675.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/TractionControl/media/posted/post-5565-1362833752_zps9eb6c675.jpg.html)
syborg tt
05-17-2016, 01:41 PM
What a great experience you and you son must have had driving home.
Now you really have me wanting one of these so Friday after my CT scan I am going to go look at a 2012 Cayman R.
glassman
05-17-2016, 09:02 PM
What year is it. My dad has a 996 that he NEVER drives. I drove it and while its nice balance wise, its not my '13 SS Camaro.
Mike, sorry i didn't see your question, its an '11, so 997.2...
Very Nice! I've owned two "Real" '74 Carreras, one a RS. Getty makes very nice parts! For the Carrera Decal, find Joe Bob on the Pelican Forums. Are the New Fuchs Forged or Cast ( they are available in both)
my Carrera Clone built on a '84 Carrera
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/TractionControl/TractionControl001/18_zpszfyznbgf.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/TractionControl/media/TractionControl001/18_zpszfyznbgf.jpg.html)
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/TractionControl/posted/post-5565-1362833752_zps9eb6c675.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/TractionControl/media/posted/post-5565-1362833752_zps9eb6c675.jpg.html)
That is beautiful....even did the long nose....nice work. That is my next personal build, a 911 hot rod, light weight with power...(next build is a '29 model b roadster pu for my shop)///
What a great experience you and you son must have had driving home.
Now you really have me wanting one of these so Friday after my CT scan I am going to go look at a 2012 Cayman R.
, the "R" is waaaaay good, not alot of people know about that one, its as good as the GTS, but the GT4 is in league of its own!! for sure...
:angel: prayers on you CT scan bro....(theres no prayer imogee, wt_?).....
syborg tt
05-20-2016, 10:52 AM
the "R" is waaaaay good, not alot of people know about that one, its as good as the GTS, but the GT4 is in league of its own!! for sure...
:angel: prayers on you CT scan bro....(theres no prayer imogee, wt_?).....
Good news Colonoscopy was clear and I am leaving work shortly for the CT Scan. So the local dealer has a Guards Red coming in July 13th and they are willing to knock a few dollars off if I put a deposit down now. Seriously thinking about it. But dang I really like the GT4. This is killing me slowly
Sheck44
05-21-2016, 03:06 AM
Good luck on the CT scan Marty !!
You won't be disappointed with any of the P cars yours considering
Cheers
Steve
syborg tt
05-21-2016, 06:47 AM
Good luck on the CT scan Marty !!
You won't be disappointed with any of the P cars yours considering
Cheers
Steve
Thank you very much and now I am torn between the Cayman R & the new GT4. I have no clue what to do.
fleetus macmullitz
05-21-2016, 08:36 AM
Thank you very much and now I am torn between the Cayman R & the new GT4. I have no clue what to do.
Gotta live on the edge man...tell the dealer your max budget and then they'll just leave an R or GT4 or ??? in your driveway.
:G-Dub:
dkp993
05-22-2016, 07:33 PM
Thank you very much and now I am torn between the Cayman R & the new GT4. I have no clue what to do.
If you can afford the GT4 it's really not much of a question. Totally different league. Should hold its value much better as well.
syborg tt
05-22-2016, 07:38 PM
If you can afford the GT4 it's really not much of a question. Totally different league. Should hold its value much better as well.
I can but if I buy I need to sell one of my cars either the 2010 Camaro or the 70 as it will become a storage issue.
GregWeld
05-22-2016, 08:27 PM
Just call SW and get one coming!
syborg tt
05-22-2016, 08:37 PM
Just call SW and get one coming!
I am watching this one as it has pretty much everything I want
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-Cayman-GT4-/152097423007?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2369b67e9f:g:TC0AAOSw2x1XMBvU&item=152097423007
boy did this thread get Hi-Jacked
Sheck44
05-23-2016, 03:00 AM
I am watching this one as it has pretty much everything I want
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-Cayman-GT4-/152097423007?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2369b67e9f:g:TC0AAOSw2x1XMBvU&item=152097423007
boy did this thread get Hi-Jacked
Marty ... That car is simply fantastic !!!
Steve
fleetus macmullitz
05-23-2016, 06:28 AM
boy did this thread get Hi-Jacked
It's what we do.
:P
syborg tt
05-23-2016, 06:52 AM
I know how we could bring this thread back is if I buy the car Mike or Steve could fly out there and drive it back with me.
fleetus macmullitz
05-23-2016, 08:29 AM
I know how we could bring this thread back is if I buy the car Mike or Steve could fly out there and drive it back with me.
You never stop giving...
syborg tt
05-23-2016, 08:31 AM
You never stop giving...
No I figured one of them could split the fuel costs with me and the possible speeding tickets
fleetus macmullitz
05-23-2016, 08:38 AM
You never stop giving...
No I figured one of them could split the fuel costs with me and the possible speeding tickets
Like I said...
:P
glassman
05-23-2016, 06:14 PM
I'm in. That cars too slow to speed in. Plus, noone else will see the yellow, it blends right in. Bumble Bee II, Love at first Sting, P-sting, ummm, cant come up with anymore....
I think Greg has a point with SW.....
fleetus macmullitz
05-23-2016, 06:56 PM
SW's
http://www.elitemotorsports.com/vehicles?Make=Porsche
Edit: I'm glad I looked. They have the amazing DSE built Michael Manning '69 Camaro listed. :wow:
http://www.elitemotorsports.com/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Austin-Texas-78726/5866520
syborg tt
05-28-2016, 09:20 PM
So Mike Kelly and I stopped and looked at the local GT4 today and a Cayman R.
The "R" drove fantastic and I would have no problem handing my wife the keys.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/6ae1ae55d9d1f83dac70ff9a07662356.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/68848c0f7dd9db6daa89f28f459b19fd.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/dcd66e93088fea8b1d453029e4731fae.jpg
And it even has provisions for a roof rack.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/324063fa8a45d0efa4dfa2a752c52e00.jpg
The GT4 ..... Dear God it's a freaking race car. Also one of the nicest cars I could ever imagine owning.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/4d8a428dad0360a4917ef90e9b5f754f.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/6fcc09f523f16000f58b7994c4ac4766.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/98daca911650f4bae3b14d90bfdaf12d.jpg
https://vimeo.com/168504789
If I bought the "R" I could pretty much daily drive it. Which would be awesome.
If I bought the GT4 I would have m honest to goodness dream car. That I would be terrified to drive.
So now I have no clue what the heck to do.
Oh then we saw this.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/10279a1c3c3adc0ac6fddd2abeaf6627.jpg
Marty-MJ
syborg tt
05-28-2016, 09:22 PM
On a side not anyone want to buy a couple Camaro's ???
Marty-MJ
Vegas69
05-28-2016, 09:36 PM
Porsche is on my radar down the road as well. Enjoy!!
glassman
05-28-2016, 09:59 PM
I say keep the 70 and dd the GT4. Umm yeah.
How much over msrp is the GT4? if you can get it for msrp, its a no brainer.
The R is the best value imo. I would dd a Caymen in a New York minute....course i pretty much dd my C2S as is.
Either way the P-car IS a driving machine.
syborg tt
05-29-2016, 03:56 AM
I could easily DD the "R" however the GT4 is inches from the ground. I would be seriously better off buying a GTS
Marty-MJ
fleetus macmullitz
05-29-2016, 04:03 AM
Whatever you buy Marty, we know we won't ever have to post this...
:ttiwop:
glassman
05-30-2016, 08:30 AM
Happy Memorial Day everybody!!!!
On an interesting note related to these German thingy's, In the 90' i read an article/commentary in Car & Driver and he wrote: "Ya wanna know why the Germans and Japanese are kicking our a$# at making cars, one word, NATO. Their best engineers can't go into defense contractors so their best went into transportation...."
I mostly agree with that statement. I also appreciate and honor this country and all its done for humanity. We are not perfect and made mistakes along the way, but WE ARE FREE :military: :flag2:
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GOD bless America!!!!!! Cheers y'all...
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