Laguna Seca 105db day!

[GregWeld]

NorCal Shelby will be running Laguna Seca on November 27th... Day after Thanksgiving... 105db is super rare sound limit for track day events! $325 for this ONE DAY event.

I just registered. We'll do Thanksgiving there in Carmel.

[glassman]

Greg, is it a rain or shine we're running event?

[Panteracer]

NorCal Shelby days are always rain or shine
with no refunds

Running there Nov 1st unlimited sound
Waiting list already

Mike if you think you want to run the 105 day
You better get signed up quick as it will see out

Bob

[GregWeld]

Bump BTTT

[Ron Sutton]

Oh that's going to be fun. Rare day of out out giddy up with no fighting the sound meter.

Sweet !

[glassman]

NorCal Shelby days are always rain or shine
with no refunds

Running there Nov 1st unlimited sound
Waiting list already

Mike if you think you want to run the 105 day
You better get signed up quick as it will see out

Bob

May be outa town, if not, probably go down to hang/watch. Not sure i wanna do Laguna in case it rains, i'll puss out for sure, i'm intimated by that track. But the corkscrew is on me bucket list for sure. I probably should learn how to drive....:drive: :brix: :morepower

[GregWeld]

May be outa town, if not, probably go down to hang/watch. Not sure i wanna do Laguna in case it rains, i'll puss out for sure, i'm intimated by that track. But the corkscrew is on me bucket list for sure. I probably should learn how to drive....:drive: :brix: :morepower



It only cost me about 30 grand to have Alex attempt to learn to drive there.... in the Lotus... and that was 2 weeks after sending him to open wheel school at Bondurant in preparation. Some folks don't quite understand the concept of "working up to it". :EmoteClueless: :buttkick:

[Sieg]

You better get good video and audio.......Maybe Ron can partner with an A/V guy to make it happen.

:popcorn2:

[Panteracer]

New Hoosiers showed up for the
Pantera today.. time to go Viper hunting:)

Bob

[Chad-1stGen]

Hmmm. May have to see if I can make this, assuming it isn't already old out by the time I figure out logistics.

[rustomatic]

105 D.B.s in one place = lots of E. Hardy gear, and perhaps an overdose of chrome. Bring repellant.

On that note, visiting in-laws for some reason in November means a trip to Laguna (in the gutless, soulless Honda), regardless of the reason . . .

[clill]

It only cost me about 30 grand to have Alex attempt to learn to drive there.... in the Lotus... and that was 2 weeks after sending him to open wheel school at Bondurant in preparation. Some folks don't quite understand the concept of "working up to it". :EmoteClueless: :buttkick:

Like father like son. I send you to the Shelby school and first session you manage to spin the car. You were at Thunderhill so you didn't hit anything. Maybe you should have thought of that when you sent Alex onto Laguna Seca as his first rodeo...:bigun2:

[GregWeld]

Like father like son. I send you to the Shelby school and first session you manage to spin the car. You were at Thunderhill so you didn't hit anything. Maybe you should have thought of that when you sent Alex onto Laguna Seca as his first rodeo...:bigun2:




It only spun because the suspension was such a flaming disaster.... and the tires were worn out... and hard...

[clill]

Or maybe you didn't know how to drive....

[GregWeld]

Or maybe you didn't know how to drive....

Nah.... it HAD to be the car.

[DBasher]

I'll vouch for the suspension being garbage, it's hanging on the wall of shame in my shed. Like I told Greg when he gave it to me was he'd have been better off using tennis balls and rebar for springs and shocks. :knokwood:

Charlie have you driven the new and improved yet?

[clill]

Your both idiots...

[DBasher]

Your both idiots...

Touché

[GregWeld]

I'll vouch for the suspension being garbage, it's hanging on the wall of shame in my shed. Like I told Greg when he gave it to me was he'd have been better off using tennis balls and rebar for springs and shocks. :knokwood:

Charlie have you driven the new and improved yet?



That's never going to happen....


If he drove it now - he'd think that's the way it always was. LOL


Funny thing happened along the way. Prior to the Ron Sutton suspension redeux.... My goal was to try to get thru a track weekend without spinning. It never happened. I'd spin before the two days were up. Since then ZERO spins... and lap times are down considerably! Do I have more time in the car... yes... Did I have lots of driving school time before I bought the car?? Yes... including 3 trips to Bondurant and 1 to Ron Fellows. Did I spin at any of those driving schools? ZERO. NADA. Have I looped the much faster Lotus... yep. Once when I tried to go too deep into turn 11 at Sonoma... and lifted (a big mistake in a car that has 63% rear weight bias).

Is it a sin to spin?

Not in my book.... we're amateurs that try to drive like we're some kind of pro racer boys. We're in the car, on track, 3 or 4 times a year.... and I know for me - I'm still trying different lines and trying to learn and do what Sutton is asking of me. It's a steep learning curve that you just hope isn't too costly. LOL

Even spinning in the Yellow Group (beginners) is a learning curve... small things like cold track and cold tires... incorrect tire pressures... forgetting where you are on track... letting your street driving carry over to track driving (completely different)...

[GregWeld]

Your both idiots...



REALLY??


Your ??


Try -- YOU'RE

[Ron in SoCal]

REALLY??


Your ??


Try -- YOU'RE

Maybe Charlie means he owns you? As in the possessive 'your' :thumbsup:

:lol:

[GregWeld]

Maybe Charlie means he owns you? As in the possessive 'your' :thumbsup:

:lol:



I have to TRY to be nice to him - he has the '33....


Too bad it doesn't leak. LOL

[clill]

I spun it once in the years I owned it. For years it was one of the faster cars at the Shelby club events. Very easy to go fast in it. I sell it to :G-Dub: and suddenly it is a POS with all junk parts and unsafe to drive with built in spin cycle. I think the roadster has 4 flat tires.:poke:

[GregWeld]

I spun it once in the years I owned it. For years it was one of the faster cars at the Shelby club events. Very easy to go fast in it. I sell it to :G-Dub: and suddenly it is a POS with all junk parts and unsafe to drive with built in spin cycle. I think the roadster has 4 flat tires.:poke:



My guess is - having owned more than a few cars over the years.... that these things don't happen "suddenly".... They do, however, need regular maintenance... and inspection... The car was at LEAST 10 years old by the time I bought it... things do wear and fail.

I could have just replaced the shocks (a couple of which were beyond simple failure) and all the bushings (the rears were completely frozen)... and the cracked ball joint... and called it good. That's not my MO.

Let's just let it go, and say the car is improved, and I love it, and I'm glad I bought it. And I stole it, and you can't have it back.

[DBasher]

So back to the db deal....:grouphug: I know the lotus has tripped the level before and Bob with his straight piped Pantera is loud. Is this a big deal that brings out cars that don't normally run or are usually restricted? Any idea what your buddies NASCAR or Chet's mustang db is?



I wonder if your mustang is any quieter with the reworked suspension....:peepwall: :lol:

[GregWeld]

So back to the db deal....:grouphug: I know the lotus has tripped the level before and Bob with his straight piped Pantera is loud. Is this a big deal that brings out cars that don't normally run or are usually restricted? Any idea what your buddies NASCAR or Chet's mustang db is?



I wonder if your mustang is any quieter with the reworked suspension....:peepwall: :lol:



The Lotus has a very high pitched exhaust -- and will trip the 103 db limit at Thunderhill.... I had to modify the exhaust to point UP and AWAY from the sound meter which is placed low in turn 15 there...

105 db at Laguna Seca IS a big deal - because they have very few "higher" sound limit days. OUSCI day was like a 93db limit -- that is STOCK CORVETTE sound. The big deal is that this is a track people love to run -- and NOT having to worry about sound is "nice".

I'm always blown away that the Cup cars that run with us can make sound -- when they fire up - it scares you! LOL... somehow that deep throaty sound gets away with the 103 limit at Thill.

I remember Charlie having to mod the exhaust on his '66 Mustang to pass sound...


The whole suspension discussion on the Mustang has been hashed to death... it was time for an upgrade and it got it. End of story. I loved the car before and love it more now. Done.

[GregWeld]

Nobody should read anything into our "banter".... I ran the Mustang for a couple of seasons before deciding to change the suspension! I had a blast driving it... it wasn't until I bought the Lotus that I even "thought" about doing anything to the Mustang.... once in there - we found lots of old worn out stuff... well DUH! The car was built in '99 or '98... WTF would anyone expect to find! 10 years of running the crap out of it... yeah... shocks and things get old and tired.


The other thing I sometimes feel like I fail to point out --- is that Sutton made the car EASIER to drive... he didn't make it (or set it up) to be the FASTEST... it's set up to be easy to drive and to be able to make mistakes and be able to recover from them.

[clill]

Stielow liked how it drove.....I rest my case.....................So did Jody....I rest my case again......

Stay tuned for pics of Welds parted out roadster.......when it arrives.....

[GregWeld]

Stielow liked how it drove.....I rest my case.....................So did Jody....I rest my case again......

Stay tuned for pics of Welds parted out roadster.......when it arrives.....



Wait..... HOW many years ago was that?? Oh yeah -- I bought the car FOUR years ago...

[DBasher]

I remember the creativity being done at Laguna for the Optima deal, just wasn't sure what the number was.

As far as the banter, I get it and understand the bromance around here....I'd like to think I wouldn't jump on any real drama....well, maybe talk about the Miata.

Sounds like a great event and a good time with friends for the holiday, enjoy!

:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

I remember the creativity being done at Laguna for the Optima deal, just wasn't sure what the number was.

As far as the banter, I get it and understand the bromance around here....I'd like to think I wouldn't jump on any real drama....well, maybe talk about the Miata.

Sounds like a great event and a good time with friends for the holiday, enjoy!

:thumbsup:



HA!! The lonely Miata --- I haven't even retitled it yet!! It just sits in the corner of the shop like a little model car.

93db is tough to make... so restrictive!! 105db is pretty loud in comparison.

This will only be the second time I've run Laguna Seca... it's our 36th Anniversary - and Thanksgiving... it will be a great week. The area is special - not like Charlie, who is Special ED... it's hard not to want to run there and visit the area.

After beating the crap out of the '33 -- Charlie might be able to get more from the parts than the car is worth complete... I think it might need a complete repaint after this last trip.

[clill]

Wait..... HOW many years ago was that?? Oh yeah -- I bought the car FOUR years ago...

You might try a thing called "maintenance" once in awhile.:hitaxeonthehead:

[GregWeld]

You might try a thing called "maintenance" once in awhile.:hitaxeonthehead:



Oh.... what you wouldn't pay to own one of my poorly maintained cars....


:G-Dub: :smiley_smack:

[Sieg]

So back to the db deal....:grouphug: I know the lotus has tripped the level before and Bob with his straight piped Pantera is loud. Is this a big deal that brings out cars that don't normally run or are usually restricted? Any idea what your buddies NASCAR or Chet's mustang db is?


I wonder if your mustang is any quieter with the reworked suspension....:peepwall: :lol:

The Lotus was tripping the sound meter at T-Hill because:
- The exhaust exited low right
- The sound check station is on the right at the start of the front straight
- Due to the nature of the corner it's very easy to hit the rev limiter in 3rd and that causes a pop right next to the sound check.

It's one of the quietest cars at any event I've been to........except for that pop and the resulting 3 meatball flags which had me tip-toeing all day Sunday. :wacko:

[DBasher]

You might try a thing called "maintenance" once in awhile.:hitaxeonthehead:

Charlie's idea of maintenance.....:lmao:

Sorry, I had to. I'll go back to the corner.:sieg:

[Sieg]

Ouchie :lol:

[Panteracer]

I have run Laguna several times with my street exhaust
and it makes the 105 db... this event will bring out a lot
of cars that you will not see there any other time other than
an Open exhaust day which is sometimes once a year
105 is still tough for the Cup cars

Funny how this sound thing came up... I was taking the
quiet car.. my Firebird... down to the gas station to fill it up
for the Marina event this weekend and barely got down the
street and the red lights lit up behind.... pulled over and
the Lady Cop said I was pulled over for a loud exhaust and
Bald tires... I did not want to let her know that the Hoosiers
were brand new with less than 20 miles on them.. fix it ticket

I was thinking the Pantera is a lot Louder.. may have to put
my quiet exhaust for running around and also some tires
with tread on them..

[GregWeld]

The other HUGE difference at Laguna Seca is that the sound is portable and moves around - and is manned by the County not the track.








I have run Laguna several times with my street exhaust
and it makes the 105 db... this event will bring out a lot
of cars that you will not see there any other time other than
an Open exhaust day which is sometimes once a year
105 is still tough for the Cup cars

Funny how this sound thing came up... I was taking the
quiet car.. my Firebird... down to the gas station to fill it up
for the Marina event this weekend and barely got down the
street and the red lights lit up behind.... pulled over and
the Lady Cop said I was pulled over for a loud exhaust and
Bald tires... I did not want to let her know that the Hoosiers
were brand new with less than 20 miles on them.. fix it ticket

I was thinking the Pantera is a lot Louder.. may have to put
my quiet exhaust for running around and also some tires
with tread on them..

[Sieg]

The other HUGE difference at Laguna Seca is that the sound is portable and moves around - and is manned by the County not the track.
They have the fixed station on the right between T5 & T6 and someone who acts as a roving 'Sound Sniper' according to hearsay.

[Panteracer]

Most will lift going up the hill to make sound
but sometimes get on it too early and pop the meter

bob

[rustomatic]

The last version of my Falcon hit 92db at Laguna last year--I'm assuming I was pretty deeply into third gear going up the hill. I thought it was too loud, so the Chevy version will be quieter, somehow . . .

[Chad-1stGen]

Do you guys know if Laguna Seca and the NorCal Shelby club allow passengers?

[GregWeld]

Do you guys know if Laguna Seca and the NorCal Shelby club allow passengers?



Yes they do Chad.... never on the first run groups of the day but after that yes. You'll need the same gear as the driver would be required to have for the run group you'd ride in, and you have to go check in and sign a waiver and get a wrist band.

Run group requirements:

Helmets: Snell SA2005 M2005 SA2010 M2010 (all groups)

Gloves (ALL groups)

Long sleeve shirts, long pants, adequate shoes / Driver’s suit for Blue group


I have a couple extra helmets if you need one... although usually a track will also have rentals... it's the gloves that can be a problem finding if you don't have them.

[Chad-1stGen]

Cool. Thanks for the info Greg!

[Chad-1stGen]

Registration for this event is now open. I signed up and will be there in my Chevy Camaro to run with the Shelby guys :D :catfight:

Unless I find out its going to pour before 11/20.

[GregWeld]

Registration for this event is now open. I signed up and will be there in my Chevy Camaro to run with the Shelby guys :D :catfight:

Unless I find out its going to pour before 11/20.

You're going to be POOR trying to run that Camaro with all our high speed Mustangs!!! LOL


Glad you've signed up! It's a great track to run.

[Panteracer]

Been toying with doing this event even though
I am running there on Nov 1st... no sound limit day
You guys may suck me into it... wish I would have done
the 5 mile at Thunderhill last week.. I think that is the best
track I have been on

Bob

[Panteracer]

Chad just wanted to let you know that
Laguna is the hardest track I have ever been on for brakes
My Pantera buddy is trying to get his brake upgrade done
before the Nov 1st project.. great equalizer with me and my
Viper buddy as his car is heavier... we run about the same
except in braking at this track... kinda slows him down a bit

Bob

[GregWeld]

Been toying with doing this event even though
I am running there on Nov 1st... no sound limit day
You guys may suck me into it... wish I would have done
the 5 mile at Thunderhill last week.. I think that is the best
track I have been on

Bob



Do it!!


Thunderhill was dang near a perfect weekend! Not to hot - almost but not too bad... Just too many cars running Green group.

[Chad-1stGen]

Chad just wanted to let you know that
Laguna is the hardest track I have ever been on for brakes
My Pantera buddy is trying to get his brake upgrade done
before the Nov 1st project.. great equalizer with me and my
Viper buddy as his car is heavier... we run about the same
except in braking at this track... kinda slows him down a bit

Bob

I agree with Greg on the Do It part ha ha. Car guys are such enablers...

Thanks for the heads up on the brakes. I will make sure I do a fresh pad change before hitting the track.

[Flash68]

Ok so who all is signed up for this next week?

[GregWeld]

Me -- and my buddy Big Mike with his NASCAR


We'll do TurkeyDay at L'Auberge in Carmel. Alex and Adrienne flying in....

[Flash68]

Me

well I knew you'd be there dufus-head..... lol

what about all the other maybes? I think Bermea will be there with a car or 3 as well...

[GregWeld]

well I knew you'd be there dufus-head..... lol

what about all the other maybes? I think Bermea will be there with a car or 3 as well...



Oh...... <hanging head>..... I thought maybe if OTHERS knew I was going to run that they'd come out to play.

[Flash68]

Oh...... <hanging head>..... I thought maybe if OTHERS knew I was going to run that they'd come out to play.

Interesting.... I was worried about the opposite....:peepwall:

[Panteracer]

I told my wife and the Doc I would lay low for a month
or so until my back gets fixed

I do plan on coming down to hang out for the day
but not running this time..loading up the truck, trailering up
etc really seems to mess things up on me right now

Bob

[Chad-1stGen]

I'm signed up! Dave, are you going to make an appearance?

Weather has me a little nervous. Right now it is showing 50% chance of rain on Thursday and 10-20% Friday. Fingers crossed it doesn't rain Friday!

[glassman]

Mines on jack(ass) stand duty right now. Awaiting a new computer engine harness after new heads, cam, accessories package, hose reroutings, aaw new wire kit, ummm, carbon hood, new non-booster m/c.....Cant wait to track it, but will need the door bars and scroth harness's before next go out

might be there to watch you'll spin out though...

[Flash68]

I'm signed up! Dave, are you going to make an appearance?



Family will be in town staying with me but I'd like to try to come down for the day and bring my pops with me.



might be there to watch you'll spin out though...

:underchair:

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[Chad-1stGen]

I've got an open passenger seat and I believe this event allows passengers...

[glassman]

Family will be in town staying with me but I'd like to try to come down for the day and bring my pops with me.



:underchair:

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My favorite philosopher of the 20 century once said "People always ask me, "are you a breast man?, leg man?, a$$ man?,' I figure i'm an A$$man, cause everytime i walk down the street people say, Hey your an a$$-man!"

Rodney D-

[rustomatic]

I forgot about the brake failure I had last year. I boiled my sub-par brake fluid and had to get towed--this was in addition to my alternator exploding and blowing out my upper radiator hose, which of course led to overheating . . .

Laguna Seca can be hard on the car; it's a great place to learn about brake fluid boiling points!:bang:

Chad just wanted to let you know that
Laguna is the hardest track I have ever been on for brakes
My Pantera buddy is trying to get his brake upgrade done
before the Nov 1st project.. great equalizer with me and my
Viper buddy as his car is heavier... we run about the same
except in braking at this track... kinda slows him down a bit

Bob

[GregWeld]

I'm not ready to make the call quite yet -- but looks like I'll just be driving Gwen's Cayenne out... Calling for 2 days of snow beginning on Tuesday here -- and over the pass on I-80... and even more snow about the time I'd be heading home. Danged If I'm going to risk someone else's life, let alone my own, just to drive for one day. So we shall see.

Either way -- I'd be at the track all day on Friday.

[Chad-1stGen]

I'm not ready to make the call quite yet -- but looks like I'll just be driving Gwen's Cayenne out... Calling for 2 days of snow beginning on Tuesday here -- and over the pass on I-80... and even more snow about the time I'd be heading home. Danged If I'm going to risk someone else's life, let alone my own, just to drive for one day. So we shall see.

Either way -- I'd be at the track all day on Friday.

I will keep my fingers crossed for you Greg!

[GregWeld]

I will keep my fingers crossed for you Greg!



I'm hoping -- but right now it's not looking real good. I don't have chains for the rig -- and have "steer" tires on the drivers.... so they have zero traction...

I'm just not going to risk getting caught in the mountains with something that's not equipped for snow of any kind. That would just flat be negligent on my part.

This is one of the reasons I'm toying with a doing a California shop location.... Since I live in the mountains -- and have to drive over them to get to where I use the car! It's a PITA.

[GregWeld]

In an heroic effort to make this event -- I've switched plans and I'm driving down via Las Vegas and back up to Carmel..... so leaving a day early (in a couple hours) and heading out. I really don't want to miss this epic track day.

[DBasher]

Atta boy! I was actually googling your area thinking if you head far enough south you'll be fine......come to think of it, we hit snow in the high desert south of Wells coming home from SEMA a few years ago. Good luck, maybe pack the AEV snowmobile just in case!:hitaxeonthehead:

[Chad-1stGen]

In an heroic effort to make this event -- I've switching plans and driving down via Las Vegas and back up to Carmel..... so leaving a day early (in a couple hours) and heading out. I really don't want to miss this epic track day.

You are the man! That is a heroic effort. I've got no excuse to finish up my own preparations for Friday lol! I can't wait!

[Flash68]

In an heroic effort to make this event -- I've switching plans and driving down via Las Vegas and back up to Carmel..... so leaving a day early (in a couple hours) and heading out. I really don't want to miss this epic track day.

No brainer. What's another of PTO when you've accrued as much as you have?

[rustomatic]

You haven't lived until you've enjoyed Donner Summit in the snow . . .

[DBasher]

This is one of the reasons I'm toying with a doing a California shop location.... Since I live in the mountains -- and have to drive over them to get to where I use the car! It's a PITA.

I just read something about Thunderhill. They're looking into building high bay shops on either side of the entrance to the facility.....might be something worth looking into.

[GregWeld]

Atta boy! I was actually googling your area thinking if you head far enough south you'll be fine......come to think of it, we hit snow in the high desert south of Wells coming home from SEMA a few years ago. Good luck, maybe pack the AEV snowmobile just in case!:hitaxeonthehead:



I'm 200 miles out! Sitting at the intersection of CA-46 and I-5..... Now.... for those of you keeping track - It's our 36th Anniversary today. How many wives would spend their 36th anniversary in a semi - parked in a parking lot on their way to spend Thanksgiving, eating dinner in a restaurant... so their idiot dumber half's can track their cars?




You are the man! That is a heroic effort. I've got no excuse to finish up my own preparations for Friday lol! I can't wait!



Read above!! LOL





No brainer. What's another of PTO when you've accrued as much as you have?




What are you trying to say???






You haven't lived until you've enjoyed Donner Summit in the snow . . .





I used to live in Alameda... and Reno was part of my territory. I was in my '64 Dodge Polara 500 with it's transplanted 440 and a 4 speed - on street tires -- and was the last car allowed thru before they closed I-80..... it took me 4 hours to drive 50 miles. I made it without any help -- but the only way I could tell there was even a road there was the reflectors marking the guardrails for the snowplows. Lucky for me - there was not a single car coming the other way - so I could take my half out of the middle!







I just read something about Thunderhill. They're looking into building high bay shops on either side of the entrance to the facility.....might be something worth looking into.




I was working with RAY on renting a shop there when I was there in October. So thinking about it for sure.

[DBasher]

Happy Anniversary to both of you crazy kids! Better lucky than smart, right? :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Happy Anniversary to both of you crazy kids! Better lucky than smart, right? :thumbsup:




Thanks Dan!!

One of my favorite - and most accurate statements!

[Panteracer]

Greg,
Happy anniversary... I am going on 39 years
If they stayed with with us this long they know how
crazy we are:)

I have missed almost everyone of my Wife's birthdays
for the last 14 years attending the Monterey Weekend
in August... I blame it on the Pantera

Hope to see you guys on Friday.... planning on taking
the Pantera for a spin down there for the day now that
it is back in street trim and the brake reservoirs are straightened out

Bob

[rustomatic]

Happy anniversary, Greg--36 years of marriage is pretty awesome! :trophy-1302:

[GregWeld]

Greg,
Happy anniversary... I am going on 39 years
If they stayed with with us this long they know how
crazy we are:)

I have missed almost everyone of my Wife's birthdays
for the last 14 years attending the Monterey Weekend
in August... I blame it on the Pantera

Hope to see you guys on Friday.... planning on taking
the Pantera for a spin down there for the day now that
it is back in street trim and the brake reservoirs are straightened out

Bob



Holy Cow Bob!! 39 years... Gwen and I actually celebrate our first date versus being married. First date anniversary is 44th! Really "all of our lives" together. I was 18 when we started going out.

YES!!! They know exactly how f'd up we are! LOL --- otherwise - who would have us??




Happy anniversary, Greg--36 years of marriage is pretty awesome! :trophy-1302:




Thanks buddy! Crazy to think about how fast the time has gone.

[glassman]

Wow, congratulations you guys!!!

Pammy and I are going on 29 dating and 27 married. We met on my 20th birthday and got married on out two year versery of our first date.

My oldest son Chris may thwart my plans of coming down there tomorrow for a POSSIBLE announcement/question to his girl (hope she doesnt see this lol)

Happy Thanksgiving everybody down there, wish i was there in my 70....soon.

[CurtiSS 69]

Anyone who was on the fence really missed something here. It was a great very low key event with clear cool weather, and no worries about noise. It was really nice visiting with Chad and Greg Weld. There was a good variety of Ameican Muscle too: )

Hats off to Chad, as he drove all the way up from LA in his car to run. Wow! No trailer.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[GregWeld]

Anyone who was on the fence really missed something here. It was a great very low key event with clear cool weather, and no worries about noise. It was really nice visiting with Chad and Greg Weld. There was a good variety of Ameican Muscle too: )

Hats off to Chad, as he drove all the way up from LA in his car to run. Wow! No trailer.

Regards

CurtiSS 69





Glad you came by Curtis!! It was a great day! Laguna Seca is such a fun track to run. My family wasn't all too thrilled about the temps today - but oh well...

And yes = 100% agree on Chads effort!! OMG --- but isn't that what Pro Touring is SUPPOSED to be about? Drive your car - track your car - take it on a trip... enjoy the crap out of it? And he's a good track driver too!!

[CurtiSS 69]

Glad you came by Curtis!! It was a great day! Laguna Seca is such a fun track to run. My family wasn't all too thrilled about the temps today - but oh well...

And yes = 100% agree on Chads effort!! OMG --- but isn't that what Pro Touring is SUPPOSED to be about? Drive your car - track your car - take it on a trip... enjoy the crap out of it? And he's a good track driver too!!

Amen Brother: )

[sixnina]

Amen Brother: )

As Curtis said great day and a great bunch of folks! It was great meeting Greg and Chad in person. Awesome driving!

[Panteracer]

Yes laguna was a great day. I drove the
Pantera down just cruising it which does not
happen very often. Watched Greg and Chad run their
cars hard. Greg had Sutton on line giving feedback
for tire pressures based on temps. All four corners were
different and the cool day made things interesting

Paul (rustomatic ) was hanging out and talking about
his Ls powered falcon in transition

Talk about the real things in life like tires,engines and suspensions
were going on everywhere

Good times and low key

Bob

[fleetus macmullitz]

56346I'm hoping --

This is one of the reasons I'm toying with a doing a California shop location....

Make sure you equip it with the essentials.


:D

[Chad-1stGen]

Anyone who was on the fence really missed something here. It was a great very low key event with clear cool weather, and no worries about noise. It was really nice visiting with Chad and Greg Weld. There was a good variety of Ameican Muscle too: )

Regards

CurtiSS 69

I agree Curtis! Of course I'm biased as someone who was there driving a car but yesterday was awesome! It was great putting faces to names on the site here as well as talking cars and driving with everyone! I'm really glad I got a chance to drive Laguna Seca and hope to drive it again.

I'm working on my pics and video but in the mean time here is a drive by of Greg heading out of turn 11 and up the straight at Laguna Seca!

kfN-CAS1siE

[MX145]

Dang.. Greg was getting with it! Glad you guys had a great time and Chad made it back home in true Pro Touring spirit!

[GregWeld]

I agree Curtis! Of course I'm biased as someone who was there driving a car but yesterday was awesome! It was great putting faces to names on the site here as well as talking cars and driving with everyone! I'm really glad I got a chance to drive Laguna Seca and hope to drive it again.

I'm working on my pics and video but in the mean time here is a drive by of Greg heading out of turn 11 and up the straight at Laguna Seca!




HAHAHAHAHA --- I never get to see "my own car" on track, let alone hear it. Thanks!

I never look at the speedometer on track, so have zero idea of the speeds I'm hitting. I'm looking UP -- and looking for my "marks" -- and checking for cars behind etc. But I know when I hit my mark under the bridge (the Z in Mazda).... I'm hauling some ass. Last time I ran Laguna Seca (two years ago before the Sutton suspension re-do) -- cresting there (the kink that is known as turn 1) was "hang on to your hat".... the car was all unweighted and would be squirrelly... and then you're hard on the brakes to get down for T2. You do that once... and you start lifting before the crest. Now.... I'm still hard into it going over (the crest). There's nothing but "solid" feel and the brakes just haul it down as you go to 3rd gear and then down into 2nd... dial in the turn and get back into the throttle.


A trick I learned from David Pozzi.... Late apex T2 (actually -- the whole track is about late apexing) and go straight for the #1 brake point marker for T3, from turn T2 exit. Most everyone I watch, drives from the right side of the track over to the left (making an S out of it). I could absolutely slam the gap closed by just running that straight as an arrow there. You have to crank in a little more turn in to get the car pointing over to the apex at 3.... but then you're pointing straight and late and you just hammer the throttle as you pass the guy you just about rear ended at corner entry. You run up on them so fast that they KNOW you're going to pass their ass on the short straight leading to T4 !! They just fold and stay far right as you blow by. LOL

[Try2paz]

Accurate statementmon going over the kink on the back straight. I Always target the "z" as well. Even in newer cars with good factory suspensions the cars get light over the kink. One time I was going over the kink and a bmw was going about half my speed on the other side and hit the brakes too hard and almost had the car come around me.

I'm hopeful to make the first shelby event next year in my 66.

Can't wait to see move pics/ videos

[califconstruct]

I agree Curtis! Of course I'm biased as someone who was there driving a car but yesterday was awesome! It was great putting faces to names on the site here as well as talking cars and driving with everyone! I'm really glad I got a chance to drive Laguna Seca and hope to drive it again.

I'm working on my pics and video but in the mean time here is a drive by of Greg heading out of turn 11 and up the straight at Laguna Seca!

kfN-CAS1siE


:star:


Greg , You were definitely screaming thru those turns, I got to see you coming in turn 5,6.. then 9-10. Love the set up in that Mustang.
Good seeing you again.
Can't believe you were talking about freshening up that motor, as it seemed to be screaming, and I believe you said you recently got it rebuilt.
Do those motors really need a freshening up at +/- 7k?
What encompasses a freshen up?



Chad, nice meeting you.. My buddy definitely enjoyed the ride. Says you had those lines down. That motor sounded tough.

I like that you drove your ride down from your hometown. Just don't know how you did it in that fixed seat. Ouch. I'd be cramped up after about an hour. I guess it goes to show the trust and reliability on the LS motors.

Ultimately that is exactly what I would depict pro touring is. Drive your car to the race track, enjoy a day seeing what it can do, and drive it home.
I was equally surprised that a local team member trailered in his car.. 427 Chevelle.. I wont name any names (Jessie). :poke: and he only lived like 40 minutes away. lol.... this is a daily driver.
So Kudos to you Chad for that adventure. :D



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[SSLance]

Mary Pozzi posted a bunch of great pictures from the weekend in an album on facebook in case any of you that were there are interested in getting some pics of your car on track.

If you don't have a facebook, well...maybe she'll post them somewhere else for you. :D Looks like a lot of fun was had by all, would love to drive on that famous track someday myself.

[rustomatic]

I thought I saw Mary sneaking around in some white, non-descript vehicle . . . I hope she got pics of the "Stick, you Bitch" stickers presented side by side on a certain yellow Mustang and a red Camaro.

Big props to Chad for actually living out the whole pro-touring movement--he has proven to be a cool guy in person. That car(maro) sounded killer headed up the hill toward turn 6/7!

Props to Greg for braving the weather in his rig--as usual, the giant trailer provided a perfect magnet for all of us to hang and go car-tarded for a couple hours.

[Chad-1stGen]

Thanks for the encouraging comments everyone. Here is my event recap.

As already mentioned the car really lived up to the Protouring dream this past week. I planned to be in the bay area for Thanksgiving already when I originally saw this post by Greg back in September. A quick look up on google maps showed that Laguna Seca was just over 80 miles from my Grandma's house so it became game on! I signed up comforted that I could cancel my attendance right up to the 20th and still get a full refund as I was worried about getting rained out. I will put my car though a lot of different abuse and risk but having been on track during the rain its above my own comfort level.

Using my Grandma's house as a base of operations I put 1,039 miles on the Camaro between Wednesday night and Sunday while knocking down about 18mpg. Wednesday night was a midnight run up the state, while Sunday was lots of stop and go driving. Through all of this and getting flogged pretty hard on the track the only tool I pulled out on the trip was a tire pressure gauge. Winning!

Some of my favorite pics from the event.
http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/Shadow%20pic_zps1vi0ugs5.jpg

http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/CH2A0330_zpsdemsqfbn.jpg

http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/CH2A0433_zpsmtfzc7ri.jpg

http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/CH2A1381_zpswdhx1lco.jpg

Lots of good pictures of the variety of cars on the Shelby Club's facebook page here too: https://www.facebook.com/NorCalSAAC/posts/712315592203978 including an original GT350 used at the Shelby School back in the day.

This is the second Shelby Club event I've attended and its the only track day events I've been to outside of the RTTC and Optima events that draw a large attendance of classic muscle. Lots and lots of mustangs (old and new), cobras and even a Daytona coupe!

It was a super cold day (morning temps in the low 30's) and I was inititally really worried about tire temps but after my first session I got comfortable with the level of grip available. I think street tires like the Falkens were a little less susceptible to the super cold temps than all the race oriented slicks I saw in the paddock.

The Shelby club has a strict no lap time policy so I didn't push myself as hard as I might have if I knew every lap time but I still pushed pretty good and had a lot of fun. After coming home and reviewing the data and video I saw a number of places I left a lot of time on the table. As it was, without a roll bar I was limited to the intermediate group and was quite a bit faster than most of the folks in my run group.

Here is video of my shortest session (the longer ones are giving me editing trouble). Lots of passing, especially the second half of the video.

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It was great meeting up with everyone from the forums and bench racing and getting some driving tips. Best "Black Friday" I've ever had!

[glassman]

Very nice!!! Man i wish i was there!! That trac is on my bucket list for sure...great watchin you tear it up!!!

Did you go home 101 or 5?

Sure missed a great event, too bad oldest child picked that day to get engaged, but hey, family first....excuses excuses....:BlahBlah:

[Chad-1stGen]

Very nice!!! Man i wish i was there!! That trac is on my bucket list for sure...great watchin you tear it up!!!

Did you go home 101 or 5?

Sure missed a great event, too bad oldest child picked that day to get engaged, but hey, family first....excuses excuses....:BlahBlah:

ha ha ha, well as excuses go that is a pretty good one!

I left from Sunnyvale yesterday and went home on 5. It sucked because of stop and go traffic though it could of been worse.

Laguna Seca is a great track! So fun!

[GregWeld]

Since I was headed to Roseville to drop the Mustang at BMR Racing on Monday morning - I had to leave Sunday afternoon to be there bright and early.... Took me 2 hours to go from Laguna Seca to The Garlic Farm fuel stop... That's 39 MILES..... What should have been about a 3 1/2 hour drive took almost 6.


The good news? I dropped the car off and the motor went to Borello's shop that afternoon. Freshen it and the Jerico and clutch etc....

[Try2paz]

chad awesome video and pictures thanks for sharing! What did you use to capture the video?

[Chad-1stGen]

Since I was headed to Roseville to drop the Mustang at BMR Racing on Monday morning - I had to leave Sunday afternoon to be there bright and early.... Took me 2 hours to go from Laguna Seca to The Garlic Farm fuel stop... That's 39 MILES..... What should have been about a 3 1/2 hour drive took almost 6.


The good news? I dropped the car off and the motor went to Borello's shop that afternoon. Freshen it and the Jerico and clutch etc....

Ugh traffic sucks. I had a section like that were it took a little over an hour to go 20 miles.

chad awesome video and pictures thanks for sharing! What did you use to capture the video?

The video is from two gopro cameras. The data (speed, g forces, track map) is from my phone with external GPS using the app Harry's Lap Timer.

[SSLance]

I started off watching Chad's video on my laptop and knew right away that I needed to switch to my desktop with the bigger screen and more importantly better speakers.

Looks like to me Chad's Camaro was handling the track very well, very balanced, no real issues anywhere, just out there making laps and having fun. That looks like a perfect track day to me, straights in the 110 mph range, mostly 50-60 mph corners, forgiving for the most part, a few challenging spots to try to hone one's craft at...heck yeah! Driving there and driving home were just icing on the cake (besides the traffic).