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workng247
08-06-2015, 10:12 AM
I've been looking at sticks for my LS/T56 swap 69 camaro.
Can the Hurst 5387438 stick be made to work on the T56 magnums stock stub?
Holes dimensions appear to be identical but the Hurst stick is serrated on one side while the T56 stub is not.
The T56 stub is threaded, not sure about the Hurst stick.
Can't seem to get the skinny and I have been looking. Hoping someone here would be willing to share. I want a somewhat stock looking stick.
Thanks
dontlifttoshift
08-06-2015, 11:29 AM
Bolt it on.
Even though the T56 stub is threaded, run the bolts a little longer and use a jam nut.
Tim john---
08-06-2015, 12:51 PM
If you are interested I have a brand new HURST chrome shifter stick available. Never installed. Handle number is 4106. Has never even had the shift ball installed. This was purchased from HURST Driveline Conversions with a new Tremec. Perfect in every way, brilliant chrome work and the HURST logo is very well defined on both sides. Manufactured by HURST. $ 65.00 and free shipping in the lower 48 states. I was going to install it in my 69 Firebird w/ a Tremec and have not done so. This is a direct bolt on for your Tremec, made exactly for it. PM me if you are interested.
Tim john---
Vega$69
08-06-2015, 06:39 PM
If you are interested I have a brand new HURST chrome shifter stick available. Never installed. Handle number is 4106. Has never even had the shift ball installed. This was purchased from HURST Driveline Conversions with a new Tremec. Perfect in every way, brilliant chrome work and the HURST logo is very well defined on both sides. Manufactured by HURST. $ 65.00 and free shipping in the lower 48 states. I was going to install it in my 69 Firebird w/ a Tremec and have not done so. This is a direct bolt on for your Tremec, made exactly for it. PM me if you are interested.
Tim john---
I think he's looking for a round instead of flat shifter shaft
workng247
08-06-2015, 08:01 PM
I think he's looking for a round instead of flat shifter shaft
Yeah, thinking I want it somewhat stock appearing. Trying to stay away from the billet bling but don't necessarily need to advertise for Hurst either. Open to suggestions, reserve the right to change my mind.:thumbsup:
SlowProgress
08-06-2015, 09:39 PM
This is an old Comp. Plus shifter handle I plan to use. The bolts are just for mockup but I think it will work fine.
http://i.imgur.com/WPNiG9xl.jpg
Here it is with a copy of the stock shifter plate and a wider opening for the 6-speed. It has the stock boot to seal the weather and will have a decorative boot to fill the hole.
http://i.imgur.com/ZavhzOTl.jpg
workng247
08-07-2015, 11:28 AM
This is an old Comp. Plus shifter handle I plan to use. The bolts are just for mockup but I think it will work fine.
http://i.imgur.com/WPNiG9xl.jpg
Here it is with a copy of the stock shifter plate and a wider opening for the 6-speed. It has the stock boot to seal the weather and will have a decorative boot to fill the hole.
http://i.imgur.com/ZavhzOTl.jpg
Looks good. Do you have the specs on that stick? Approximate length and angle would be helpful. Or if you know the part # I could figure it out.
I have enjoyed following your build, you are doing some awesome work there.
Edit: From the looks its a 4106, 10" tall, 5.5" raked back, 1.3" angled inward. Sound about right?
Thanks
workng247
08-07-2015, 11:39 AM
If you are interested I have a brand new HURST chrome shifter stick available. Never installed. Handle number is 4106. Has never even had the shift ball installed. This was purchased from HURST Driveline Conversions with a new Tremec. Perfect in every way, brilliant chrome work and the HURST logo is very well defined on both sides. Manufactured by HURST. $ 65.00 and free shipping in the lower 48 states. I was going to install it in my 69 Firebird w/ a Tremec and have not done so. This is a direct bolt on for your Tremec, made exactly for it. PM me if you are interested.
Tim john---
Thanks for the offer. That stick would have been in the 67 + 68s. Obviously it would work for my 69 as well. Might be an option, I'll keep it in mind.
Jeff
Hurst Drivelines has the stick and offset adapter that works with the factory console.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-FpmR6Dc/1/XL/i-FpmR6Dc-XL.jpg
NOTE: I have the shifter installed in the rear mounting position and made a cover plate to accommodate it because I preferred the ergonomics.
workng247
08-07-2015, 05:54 PM
Hurst Drivelines has the stick and offset adapter that works with the factory console.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-FpmR6Dc/1/XL/i-FpmR6Dc-XL.jpg
NOTE: I have the shifter installed in the rear mounting position and made a cover plate to accommodate it because I preferred the ergonomics.
Yeah, I considered that but they want 180 for the round bar stick and 380 for the offset shifter. Thats about 500 more than I want to spend. Not to mention the potential leak issue that someone here had run into with said offset shifter.
Fortunately I found that by moving the console back about 1 3/4" and the built in clocked orientation of the trans I can leave the shifter in its stock postion and not have to spend the extra jack.
I'm looking at a Hurst 538-7438 round bar stick on ebay for about 75. Its 10.75" tall, raked back about 3.75" and leans in about 1.5". Is that about what you've got? Its supposed to be similar to the original 5325 stick in dimensions.
Wanted to post some pics but I guess they are too big, not sure how to resize them.
Thanks
My shift ball center is 4" right of the outer most radius of my wheel (Momo 320mm) and 2.5" forward of the grip center. It fits me like a glove.
The new generation Hurst Blackjack shifters have the improved seal system which I helped initiate the redesign. That shifter is very well made, has short and narrow throws, butter smooth, and positive once the trans has about 3K break in miles.
Considering how much direct contact you have with the shifter the Blackjack delivers a very good ROI. :thumbsup:
workng247
08-07-2015, 10:33 PM
My shift ball center is 4" right of the outer most radius of my wheel (Momo 320mm) and 2.5" forward of the grip center. It fits me like a glove.
The new generation Hurst Blackjack shifters have the improved seal system which I helped initiate the redesign. That shifter is very well made, has short and narrow throws, butter smooth, and positive once the trans has about 3K break in miles.
Considering how much direct contact you have with the shifter the Blackjack delivers a very good ROI. :thumbsup:
Good to know, I thought that was you with the leaky. Glad to hear you were able to get that taken care of. Is your stick round or flat? (can't tell for sure from the pics)
Thanks
Good to know, I thought that was you with the leaky. Glad to hear you were able to get that taken care of. Is your stick round or flat? (can't tell for sure from the pics)
Thanks
It's round.
GMJim@HDC
08-18-2015, 02:44 PM
Yeah, I considered that but they want 180 for the round bar stick and 380 for the offset shifter. Thats about 500 more than I want to spend. Not to mention the potential leak issue that someone here had run into with said offset shifter.
Fortunately I found that by moving the console back about 1 3/4" and the built in clocked orientation of the trans I can leave the shifter in its stock postion and not have to spend the extra jack.
I'm looking at a Hurst 538-7438 round bar stick on ebay for about 75. Its 10.75" tall, raked back about 3.75" and leans in about 1.5". Is that about what you've got? Its supposed to be similar to the original 5325 stick in dimensions.
Wanted to post some pics but I guess they are too big, not sure how to resize them.
Thanks
The Retro Roundbar handle 6869RS is shorter and is designed for the top position of the Tremec with the Blackjack shifter and is $125 and the Blackjack shifter 3917334 is 369.00.
A replacement round bar Competition plus shifter handle is too long at 11 inches. The Retro round bar is 9-1/4 inches. Call me if you like and I'll see what I can do.
jonkiwi
05-18-2016, 05:54 PM
The Retro Roundbar handle 6869RS is shorter and is designed for the top position of the Tremec with the Blackjack shifter and is $125 and the Blackjack shifter 3917334 is 369.00.
A replacement round bar Competition plus shifter handle is too long at 11 inches. The Retro round bar is 9-1/4 inches. Call me if you like and I'll see what I can do.
GMJim@HDC - I'm just in the process of installing a Tremec T56 Magnum in my 67 Camaro and am trying to decide on best shifter position and which Hurst stick to use. I think the Retro Roundbar part #6869RS is the right way to go but was looking for some specs before ordering. Hurst Drivelines seems to be the only one that offers this specific Hurst stick but has no specs on website and calling customer service was no help.
Your previous post said 9-1/4" long. Do you know the setback dimensions as well? Also is it offset like the Hurst 5384106 which was the other stick I was considering?
Also, if anyone on this thread has advice as to using the rear or mid mounting position for the shifter it would be appreciated. My Camaro has no console so not limited by that, but want to get it right before cutting the trans tunnel and carpet.
Hurst_Drivelines
05-27-2016, 02:36 PM
GMJim@HDC - I'm just in the process of installing a Tremec T56 Magnum in my 67 Camaro and am trying to decide on best shifter position and which Hurst stick to use. I think the Retro Roundbar part #6869RS is the right way to go but was looking for some specs before ordering. Hurst Drivelines seems to be the only one that offers this specific Hurst stick but has no specs on website and calling customer service was no help.
Your previous post said 9-1/4" long. Do you know the setback dimensions as well? Also is it offset like the Hurst 5384106 which was the other stick I was considering?
Also, if anyone on this thread has advice as to using the rear or mid mounting position for the shifter it would be appreciated. My Camaro has no console so not limited by that, but want to get it right before cutting the trans tunnel and carpet.
The round bar p/n 6869RS would not be the correct stick to go with. You will probably be better off with the H5384106 (http://bit.ly/H5384106), which is the one that we recommend for a 67-68 Camaro. Below are the specs on the round bar if you were curious. Also, you will either be in the furthest rear position or the 180 degree flip forward but not the mid mount. If you have any questions, give us a call at 707-544-4761 and ask for Scott at ext. 449.
http://i.imgur.com/gjrvZam.jpg
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