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69greyghost
06-20-2015, 09:27 PM
Is 4 link mini tubbing and rear coilovers worth the money on a 69 camaro? I am curious because it is a big investment and something that might not be needed. I got, some rear qa1's and was curious if these are a worthy alternative. I just have a cruiser thats a pro touring type car. I kinda want to hear from people that have pulled the trigger on this upgrade on a 69 camaro.

Vince@Meanstreets
06-20-2015, 10:27 PM
Depends on the look you are going for.

Fatt tuck look or oh yeah, its a 69 Camaro look.

I tell you that I hear way more "Damn, I should have mini tubbed it" than "damn, I should have not mini tubbed it".

glassman
06-20-2015, 11:45 PM
I have ZERO regrets of doing that to my 70. And i mostly did it for the looks, makes a nice rear nicer.....

69greyghost
06-21-2015, 07:58 AM
Depends on the look you are going for.

Fatt tuck look or oh yeah, its a 69 Camaro look.

I tell you that I hear way more "Damn, I should have mini tubbed it" than "damn, I should have not mini tubbed it".

Vince, what kind of ride does coil overs provide, and what about the dse kit? it looks lie it does something similar in terms of giving the desired stance and look.

badazz81z28
06-21-2015, 10:10 AM
Vince, what kind of ride does coil overs provide, and what about the dse kit? it looks lie it does something similar in terms of giving the desired stance and look.


Key word...adjustability.

rallystyle
06-21-2015, 12:44 PM
i would say it all comes down to budget and use. you said a cruiser so i would go with a 4 link because of the adjustability as badazz81z28 said. you can adjust your height and damping of the shocks for a good ride. for the mini tub i would say if the budget allows it. it could also be good for resale down the road. or if you just have to have the biggest tires on it for looks

Mkelcy
06-21-2015, 05:18 PM
It really depends on how you want to use your car.

The extreme lowered look is really great, until you need to take your car up a driveway or through a parking lot with speed bumps. For my part, I prefer a drivable car as compared to a car that looks great in a static picture against a beautiful skyline or on a nicely paved race track. The real world is pretty cruel to lowered cars.

To be clear, if I could mini-tub the car I would, but the extreme lowering gets you out of the real world driving.

IMHO, unless you're capable of driving a race car at 9/10ths on a track, there's no need for anything too exotic in the rear suspension of a first gen f-body.

Musclerodz
06-21-2015, 07:36 PM
I think the value is there as long as you have the budget to do it. If you want the look but not the cost, you could just narrow the rear and run a 10 with deeper dish. My buddy did that on a couple cars and everyone thought it was mini tubbed. Personally I don't think I would own another Camaro that wasn't mini tubbed.

Vince@Meanstreets
06-21-2015, 10:04 PM
True Mike! I always tell people if you wanna do it, do it cause you will regret it later.

As far as coil overs I will never use leafs again. The coil over spring and link suspension motion just gives a better ride over a leaf. Every customer I have swapped a Ridetech set up has said the same. I call it a lesson of modernization. Weight transfer is smoother and traction is improved giving the driver a better driving experience.

I love the DSE quad link but most of my clients are on a budget so the reduction in labor price gives the Ridetech air bar a big advantage. When it comes to the quad link I like the geometry and layout on the 2nd gen kit over the 67-69 kit. Mainly the upper link position on the rear end housing .

badazz81z28
06-21-2015, 10:27 PM
True Mike! I always tell people if you wanna do it, do it cause you will regret it later.

g .

This is so true....here I am 15 years later and have done/bought stuff 3x over. I now currently have a tub and quadra link kit in my bedroom waiting to be installed. I have the cash to get it installed, just looking for the right guy and the ability to swallow the pill and go. I knew if I didn't go ths route, I would regret it.

ADiCarlo
06-22-2015, 01:28 PM
I had the same questions with my car and spent hours looking at different suspension set ups, wheels, fitment, speaking with experts and owners.

I even posted a similar thread on here about it.

The end result is seen below on my 68 Camaro - (please excuse the crappy cell phone pic)

Mini tub with the DSE Quadralink. Based upon the available information, the user reviews, and the position in my build(fully blasted and ready for metal work) it made sense.

If you have the finances, aren't destroying pristine paint and feel that it serves a purpose or need (which I think it does or you wouldn't even be considering it) then do it.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/385/18876284288_f48eac0d0f.jpg

That reminds me I need to update my build thread lol

Josh@Ridetech
06-22-2015, 01:40 PM
"Damn, I should have mini tubbed it" than "damn, I should have not mini tubbed it".

This.

If you want to do it, get it over with now. :D

SlowProgress
06-22-2015, 05:18 PM
Funny I have the same answer!

http://i.imgur.com/QAghl2El.jpg

Tim john---
06-24-2015, 09:07 AM
Depends on the look you are going for.

Fatt tuck look or oh yeah, its a 69 Camaro look.

I tell you that I hear way more "Damn, I should have mini tubbed it" than "damn, I should have not mini tubbed it".

Vince, Can you tell me what wheels are on the white Camaro. Perhaps a close up view of the wheels too ? Car looks fantastic ! All three cars look really sharp actually but that white one looks mean.

Tim john---

Vega$69
06-24-2015, 12:27 PM
If you mini you need to narrow rear end. Need to get wheels and tires to go with the look.

$300 mini tubs can easily be $10k when you're all in.

Mine is tubbed.

frojoe
06-24-2015, 12:42 PM
Don't necessarily *need* all the rest right away as it's all hidden and no one will be able to tell that it's done.. but mini-tubbing now, if your project is in a state where it's easier/easiest to mini-tub now, is perfect for later on down the road when you decide that you do want wider tires like everyone else...

Vince@Meanstreets
06-24-2015, 02:58 PM
Vince, Can you tell me what wheels are on the white Camaro. Perhaps a close up view of the wheels too ? Car looks fantastic ! All three cars look really sharp actually but that white one looks mean.

Tim john---

Not sure, I pulled it off the web. Looks like Budnik M5's to me.

SlowProgress
06-24-2015, 07:25 PM
I think the mini-tub is a great step as long as you aren't cutting up a pristine car. The 4-link is pretty expensive around 2K which is a lot of money for most of us. I found narrowing the rearend to be pretty reasonable.

The hardest pill to swallow is 12 inch wheels and big brakes. You can shop around and find good deals, but new those are very expensive and the wide tires are really a big hit as well. If you plan to get those down the road, the mini-tub really opens up lots of possibilities. The tubs can always go into a painted car later, but you have to be more careful. Most people can do tubs themselves with patience and a pretty simple welder.

ErikLS2
06-24-2015, 11:04 PM
Don't be like me where you're already painted and bought wheels and then you want to do it.........after joining this site!

GregWeld
06-25-2015, 04:18 PM
....... always the old project scope creep.... it happens to EVERYONE. It starts with the "well, while I'm here I might as well do "X"

It explains why there's people on here that haven't driven their car in YEARS... LOL

David Pozzi
07-08-2015, 05:07 PM
I could tell the difference riding as passenger in 50 feet. This was riding in a Hotchkis 3 link equipped Camaro, but the other link rear ends would be a similar improvement. They ride SO much better. There are handling benefits too.

tmadden
07-08-2015, 08:22 PM
No regrets. I recommend it if you don't have a numbers matching car.