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1Bad68Cat
05-18-2015, 09:07 AM
I started this build a couple years ago. It is a slow build. And I mean really slow. I have posted some pics of the things I did in other threads but figure I'll include them here.
I started with this:
https://i.imgur.com/6f7gZKJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WTbJli9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nbNCjBo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xEL0v2j.jpg
1Bad68Cat
05-18-2015, 09:08 AM
As I mentioned before I did some small things here and there. Here are a few pics of the front brakes I will be installing.
https://i.imgur.com/ED8xODt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VEcDMio.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CClOYH1.jpg
1Bad68Cat
05-18-2015, 09:08 AM
I did some prelimnary mock up with the coyote engine.
https://i.imgur.com/OnorvDb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/T29xu1B.jpg
Along the way I built an engine lift fixture because I didn't feel comfortable with the lift brackets supplied with the coyote engine. I can see them bend as I lifted the engine. Getting the CG right also proved to be cumbersome with the supplied lift brackets.
https://i.imgur.com/NIiTvS5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cOuV4CN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0QyAyzo.jpg
1Bad68Cat
05-18-2015, 09:09 AM
To date, I have mostly installed the front suspension. Still need to weld upper control arm mount gussets, top coil over mount, and and the down tubes. I'll tie the gussets, coil over mounts, and down tubes together.
https://i.imgur.com/bGDSXht.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jJ6ANvK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hxsYnbc.jpg
DavidBoren
05-18-2015, 09:20 AM
Coyote in a cougar, I don't see anything wrong with that. And it looks like you've got a good thing going with your front suspension.
What are your plans for the rear? Full floater 9" with a decoupled 3-link? Built 8.8" with an offset 3-link? Cobra IRS?
1Bad68Cat
05-18-2015, 09:34 AM
Coyote in a cougar, I don't see anything wrong with that. And it looks like you've got a good thing going with your front suspension.
What are your plans for the rear? Full floater 9" with a decoupled 3-link? Built 8.8" with an offset 3-link? Cobra IRS?
I have a 9" already, but I plan to convert it to a semi-floater similar to what speed tech offers with theirs that use the c6 SKF hubs. I will be using a SRT8 setup instead because the wheel bolt pattern is similar to a Ford. I'll redrill the hubs for 5x4.5 since the SRT8 bolt pattern is 5x4.527. That way when I need to replace rotors I can go to the parts store. The holes are oversized in the rotors that I can use the 5x4.5 bolt cirlce.
Justin@EntropyRad
05-18-2015, 12:04 PM
is beefcake! Kudos for the Coyote swap
waynieZ
05-18-2015, 04:23 PM
Great project. This is going to be one fun ride! Nice job on the lift fixture.
1Bad68Cat
07-06-2015, 02:59 PM
Small update. Fabbed up and tacked motor mounts in. Hope to finalize engine placement, then install both engine ans transmission so I can fabricate the transmission cross member.
https://i.imgur.com/SW6MXfu.jpg
bonecrrusher
07-07-2015, 08:01 AM
What car did the 6 piston brembo setup come from?
1Bad68Cat
07-07-2015, 08:44 AM
What car did the 6 piston brembo setup come from?
The brakes are from a 2013 Shelby GT500. With my build, I'm trying to use stock parts where possible so I can go to the parts store/dealer in an emergency.
jarhead
07-07-2015, 05:46 PM
Very nice!
bonecrrusher
07-08-2015, 06:05 AM
Very nice - I agree with sticking to factory parts where you can.
I disliked the Brembo/OEM pads with my CTS-V brakes - so I went with Hawk HPS pads.
1Bad68Cat
07-20-2015, 08:37 AM
Another update. Mocked up my hydroboost to see if I can get it to clear the coyote engine. Results look promising. Used a reproduction Boss 429 Mustang brake booster wedge to tilt the hydroboost up. Still need to figure out what to do about the billet hood hinge interference and determine what the brake pedal ratio needs to be. If anyone has a later model mustang with hydroboost perferably the SN-95 (96-2004, prefer 2003-2004) variety would you mind telling me what the pedal ratio is.
https://i.imgur.com/TR9Z03r.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4VUZwRM.jpg
67XR7
07-20-2015, 08:52 PM
I guess a cougar is an okay choice for a build.
RidiCat69
07-30-2015, 02:16 PM
Have an 03 cobra pedal assembly here, measured out to a 5:1 brake pedal ratio.
Like your build!! I have a 69 Cougar I'm doing a slow build on also.
1Bad68Cat
07-30-2015, 02:29 PM
Have an 03 cobra pedal assembly here, measured out to a 5:1 brake pedal ratio.
Like your build!! I have a 69 Cougar I'm doing a slow build on also.
Thanks RidiCat69 for the info. Would you mind sending me the measurements you took. I want to eliminate any possible rounding errors when I calculate where my pivot point will need to be. I'm a little surprised, I was thinking it would have been closer to 4 than 5. Also, did you take your measurement from the center of the pivot to the center of the pedal pad or the bottom of the pedal pad? I've seen illustrations showing both. Thanks again.
Robert
RidiCat69
07-30-2015, 03:09 PM
No problem, Robert.
I retook measurements for both ways and you can decide which to use.
Center of pivot to center of pushrod lug is 2.75"
center of pivot to absolute bottom of pedal pad is 14.25".
this is what I got 5.1:1 ratio with.
Center of pivot to center of pedal pad is 12.75", giving a ratio of 4.63:1
Ryan
RidiCat69
07-30-2015, 03:11 PM
What pedal setup are you looking to use?
fleetus macmullitz
07-30-2015, 03:16 PM
Very interesting build. :thumbsup:
1Bad68Cat
07-30-2015, 03:18 PM
No problem, Robert.
I retook measurements for both ways and you can decide which to use.
Center of pivot to center of pushrod lug is 2.75"
center of pivot to absolute bottom of pedal pad is 14.25".
this is what I got 5.1:1 ratio with.
Center of pivot to center of pedal pad is 12.75", giving a ratio of 4.63:1
Ryan
What pedal setup are you looking to use?
Thanks Ryan. I am using the power brake pedal for the 67 cougar. Right now the pin is lower than the hydroboost rod. I will move the pin and also likely the pivot so that the arc of the pedal matches the direction the hydroboost rod travels (currently it travels up at an angle because of the wedge). I believe the stock 67 ratio for power is around 3:1.
Robert
RidiCat69
07-30-2015, 04:18 PM
Oh wow! Didnt know they were that low! The had an 04 Cobra as a daily for a few years, loved the hydroboost. Had good pedal feel without being over assisted. Did a 70 Mach build recently and used the stock pedal setup. Got a needle bearing setup for the stock clutch pivot rod. Don't know what you're doing in that area, but it's much smoother than the bushings if you haven't already done so.
Finally getting settled into my new digs, and trying to get back to mine. Only other cougar on here right now from a brief search. Keep the updates comin!
Ryan
1Bad68Cat
07-30-2015, 09:39 PM
Oh wow! Didnt know they were that low! The had an 04 Cobra as a daily for a few years, loved the hydroboost. Had good pedal feel without being over assisted. Did a 70 Mach build recently and used the stock pedal setup. Got a needle bearing setup for the stock clutch pivot rod. Don't know what you're doing in that area, but it's much smoother than the bushings if you haven't already done so.
Finally getting settled into my new digs, and trying to get back to mine. Only other cougar on here right now from a brief search. Keep the updates comin!
Ryan
Yeah, I was a little shocked too when I took the measurements. My brother had an 04 Mach I and I loved the brakes on it too. I was fortunate to find a used 04 cobra hydroboost for cheap and decided I would adapt it to my car. As for the clutch setup, I did install the roller bearing conversion. I used a Scott Drake kit. I hope to get the new wedge soon so I can modify my pedal accordingly.
Robert
1Bad68Cat
09-29-2015, 07:21 AM
More updates. Brake pedal mod for adapting an 03 cobra hydroboost to the cougar pedal support. I replicated the pedal ratio from the cobra.
https://i.imgur.com/fPdiqAR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jYwmTZY.jpg
Pedal support setup with hydroboost, S197 mustang hydraulic master, and roller bearing conversion
https://i.imgur.com/fPaM5Iz.jpg
Used parts from the S197 mustang and adapted them to the cougar clutch pedal.
https://i.imgur.com/I4aVXFD.jpg
Hydroboost mounted using a reproduction Boss '9 mustang brake booster wedge to clear the coyote engine.
https://i.imgur.com/9Bx9t75.jpg
RidiCat69
10-04-2015, 07:40 PM
Sweet deal man! The wedge seems like it will add quite a bit of clearance. Keep the updates comin!
1Bad68Cat
10-04-2015, 09:11 PM
Sweet deal man! The wedge seems like it will add quite a bit of clearance. Keep the updates comin!
Thanks Ryan. Your measurements on the cobra brake pedal helped immensely. I do have a lot of clearance between the engine and the hydroboost. You can see in the picture below. This is with the engine set at 3 degrees down and not having to shift the brake assembly towards the driver's side like I've seen in other builds. I can get to 2.5 and still have plenty of clearance. Only issue I have now is clearing the billet hood hinge shock which I never really liked because it limits the height the hood can be opened. I have an idea that will solve those 2 problems.
https://i.imgur.com/pcDqfp6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qmTLou0.jpg
ADiCarlo
10-04-2015, 09:30 PM
This is going to be amazing.
Much win.
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WSSix
10-05-2015, 10:15 AM
Nice work! Glad to see you making progress on the car.
RidiCat69
11-21-2015, 07:48 AM
Updates? Hell has frozen over since I worked on my coug the past 2 weekends straight....hasn't happened in months... :poke: eh?
1Bad68Cat
11-23-2015, 07:17 AM
Updates? Hell has frozen over since I worked on my coug the past 2 weekends straight....hasn't happened in months... :poke: eh?
Lol. No updates on my end either Ryan. Been helping my brother with his 66 mustang. His car is much closer to completion than mine. I have some pictures of it if as proof I did some work. :lol:
https://i.imgur.com/9zJOQLk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PGC9eqA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GqUUz5l.jpg
I'm hoping the color evened out or the phone pic just gave it a greenish hue because it was suppose to be matte black.
1Bad68Cat
02-07-2016, 09:09 AM
A few updates. Was able to roll the car out of the garage this weekend on it's own suspension. Finished welding in the upper control arm gussets, upper shock mounts, and frame boxing plates. Still need to weld in the down tubes and shock tower delete plates, but I will first fab up the transmission cross member so I can return the coyote motor to my buddy.
https://i.imgur.com/7kPq9Sb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TkZwpeT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jlCbqTv.jpg
Hope the car is not sitting too low once the real wheels and tires are on.
https://i.imgur.com/lgQvbpb.jpg
WSSix
02-08-2016, 08:47 AM
Man that motor is huge. It looks good in there though. Congrats on getting the car back onto its wheels.
1Bad68Cat
02-08-2016, 10:38 PM
Man that motor is huge. It looks good in there though. Congrats on getting the car back onto its wheels.
Thanks Trey. The motor sure is big. I believe it is even wider than the boss '9 motor.
1Bad68Cat
02-21-2016, 01:39 PM
Fabbed and installed my transmission cross member
https://i.imgur.com/U8wQFuC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FpfAs02.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Vcm5utA.jpg
jarhead
02-21-2016, 03:08 PM
Nice job on the crossmember! Where did you get those rubber bushings, I would like to use that ice on my 68 Torino.
Thanks, Joe
Spiffav8
02-21-2016, 03:16 PM
Nice job on the crossmember! Where did you get those rubber bushings, I would like to use that ice on my 68 Torino.
Thanks, Joe
Right!
1Bad68Cat
02-22-2016, 06:32 AM
Nice job on the crossmember! Where did you get those rubber bushings, I would like to use that ice on my 68 Torino.
Thanks, Joe
Right!
Joe/Curtis, I bought them through Off Road Warehouse. From what I remember they are just bulk bush kits. Another alternative would be to buy bushings from energy suspension like these and use the appropriate tube diameter.
http://energysuspension.com/universal-products/link-flange-type-bushings-universal-mounts-isolators.html
1Bad68Cat
03-31-2016, 10:20 AM
Christmas came early.
https://i.imgur.com/jNMxClx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ctT5Zdk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sVQ5FgI.jpg
rustomatic
03-31-2016, 06:52 PM
That's a nice package!
WSSix
03-31-2016, 06:53 PM
Merry Christmas!
1Bad68Cat
05-31-2016, 06:37 AM
Just a small update from the weekend. Decided to cut the firewall out to make clearance for the Charge Motion Control Valves (CMCV) on the back of the intake. I didn't want to move the engine forward for the clearance because it would have created an issue with the steering linkage and oil pan. I figured modifying the firewall would be easier. I just wanted the firewall to remain looking "stockish" after the mod. I think I accomplished it. Still need to complete the metal finishing though.
https://i.imgur.com/23BsRej.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fGouNng.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/V8nGwsl.jpg
67XR7
05-31-2016, 12:42 PM
keep up the good work, Look forward to seeing your progress!
1Bad68Cat
06-06-2016, 06:09 AM
Dressed the welds and retest fit the engine over the weekend.
https://i.imgur.com/CWsqIgD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w39YmXe.jpg
Barely enough clearance. I may massage the area a little more just in case.
https://i.imgur.com/07HPgFy.jpg
jarhead
06-06-2016, 11:42 AM
Nice work!
Tuske427
06-11-2016, 11:25 PM
Looking awesome!
anarchy99
06-12-2016, 05:58 AM
That is a good looking engine. Looks right at home in there.
98ssnova
06-12-2016, 02:53 PM
What if you just radius the corner of the cover? It just plastic right? Might be easier.....
1Bad68Cat
06-15-2016, 07:19 AM
What if you just radius the corner of the cover? It just plastic right? Might be easier.....
Sorry about the confusion. I was actually referring to the CMCV behind the engine cover. I have about .125" clearance right now. But now that you mention it, I may also radius the engine cover too.
syborg tt
06-19-2016, 05:14 AM
Great project.
I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing this car when you get it running.
Marty-mj
www.garagescene.net www.syborgtwinturbo.com www.2ndcamaro.com
1Bad68Cat
09-11-2016, 12:30 PM
A few updates. Fabricated the mount for the coyote control pack power distribution block and closeout panels for the shock towers delete. Also picked up a steering wheel along the way.
https://i.imgur.com/ZgywbiB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BmrqeEF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/S23ajYC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rOXIAxx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/byb1BmA.jpg
1Bad68Cat
10-25-2016, 11:28 AM
New valve covers for the coyote conversion. Machining begins today. Excited what it will look like in person.
https://i.imgur.com/MG57wWG.jpg
jarhead
10-25-2016, 11:58 AM
nice!
WSSix
10-27-2016, 10:11 AM
Post finished pics! Looks like a great design.
1Bad68Cat
10-27-2016, 10:20 AM
Post finished pics! Looks like a great design.
You ask and you shall receive. :hapdance:
https://i.imgur.com/ui2CnUv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iduHqqb.jpg
67XR7
10-28-2016, 07:21 AM
New valve covers for the coyote conversion. Machining begins today. Excited what it will look like in person.
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g322/ricasas/67%20Cougar/14808658_10209339581183337_770229581_o.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/ricasas/media/67%20Cougar/14808658_10209339581183337_770229581_o.jpg.html)
was this something you created in CAD and then had availability to the equipment to make it happen?
1Bad68Cat
10-28-2016, 09:59 AM
was this something you created in CAD and then had availability to the equipment to make it happen?
For most of my car that is what I've done. I use SolidWorks or Pro-E to design my ideas. However in this case, the person machining had been making coyote covers already and was willing to make custom ones. I just provided him a picture of the script and logo which he plugged into whatever program he uses.
1Bad68Cat
11-07-2016, 11:39 AM
Some minor updates to my build. I received the custom covers for my coyote conversion. Still need to decide how I want them finished.
https://i.imgur.com/3RySqLE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jlayq4F.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gNPHWYS.jpg
1Bad68Cat
08-25-2017, 07:23 AM
I've been lacking on updates because I haven't had much time to work on the car, but the shell is at the body shop now to prep the car for my upcoming engagement photos. Of course it took a major life event to light a fire, but it's getting there.
https://i.imgur.com/4mkVdxf.jpg
Car at media blast. It showed good and bad. I was surprised to find out that the car was originally a vinyl top car. The good, the roof wasn't rotted out like other vinyl top cars. The bad, the quarter panel was replaced sometime in it's life, but the repair work is subpar. The body shop will work with it since quarter panels are hard to find.
https://i.imgur.com/ZOZBa4F.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PwauZts.jpg
Car after epoxy showed even more dings I didn't see when the car was out in the light.
https://i.imgur.com/t81qL4T.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pm4dzhh.jpg
One of the subtle changes. Added a GT-E "esque" cougar hood scoop. It will look similar the g-force cougar hood scoop.
https://i.imgur.com/VYorEIV.jpg
I also managed to find 18" wheels that fit my car and clear the monster 15" rotors from the gt500 brakes I'm using.
WSSix
08-26-2017, 02:24 PM
Nice, Robert. Glad the car wasn't too bad after media blasting.
1Bad68Cat
09-18-2017, 12:31 PM
Added some color. Still need to mask for stripes.
https://i.imgur.com/X2ANStp.jpg
1Bad68Cat
09-25-2017, 06:12 AM
A few more updates. Body shop laid out the stripes, painted them, and cleared the car.
https://i.imgur.com/URvhrf5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/niqdzFX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pR5IQX4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XefmwYd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1SO6W7n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ww13m3p.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TRDAADt.jpg
1Bad68Cat
10-06-2017, 11:57 AM
A few updates. Still needs to be cut and buffed.
https://i.imgur.com/65hFdBU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kr5pIX7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eGC8OpU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZlW3WH8.jpg
Mikael A
10-06-2017, 03:33 PM
Paint looks awesome out there in the sun:thumbsup:
WSSix
10-07-2017, 07:08 PM
Very nice looking. Great choice on the blues.
cjsgarage
10-10-2017, 08:48 PM
I just love these Cougars.theyre not as common, but they’re pretty nice.
1Bad68Cat
11-04-2020, 08:41 AM
Can't believe it's been 3 years since I posted to my build. Not much of an update. I got the car looking presentable (i.e. still not running/driving :lol:) for my engagement photos and that's about it. The car has been on the back burner as I haven't had much time to work on it. Hopefully that will change soon after the home renovation.
https://i.imgur.com/UqUv1H5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NOJ1VIW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QXKKByb.jpg
camcojb
11-04-2020, 09:51 AM
Great looking car and congrats on your engagement!!
Peter McMahon
11-04-2020, 04:40 PM
I love it!
Is the front suspension from a kit? What spindle does it use? and what master cylinder did you use? I have a 56 F100 Coyote with hydroboost [ 2000 mustang ] looking for options.
1Bad68Cat
11-05-2020, 06:24 AM
I love it!
Is the front suspension from a kit? What spindle does it use? and what master cylinder did you use? I have a 56 F100 Coyote with hydroboost [ 2000 mustang ] looking for options.
Peter, the front suspension kit is an Art Morrison Sport IFS. It uses the Wilwood Pro Spindle. The hydroboost and master came from an 03/04 mustang cobra. Hope that helps.
WSSix
11-06-2020, 06:21 PM
Congrats on the engagement, Robert. The car still looks great, too.
1Bad68Cat
11-09-2020, 07:59 AM
Great looking car and congrats on your engagement!!
Congrats on the engagement, Robert. The car still looks great, too.
Thanks Jody and Trey. I should mention that I did get married 10 months later since the photo I posted was from 2018. :D
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