Beware of fresh paint

[GPR]

The owner of this car bought it last year and drove it maybe 100 miles and decided he wanted more HP. A shop across from mine built a 347 and changed the rear to a Currie 9" and changed the wheels to Torque Thrusts. This car looked great when he bought it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/Before_zps2csaa0gw.jpg

While the engine was out he decided he wanted us to install a Rod & Custom front suspension. We were removing seam sealer from the cowl and found that the lower cowl had been patched and never welded and also found this rust.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0492_zps7q32lcla.jpg

He wanted us to install a steel bulkhead behind the rear seat and this is what we found

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At first we were going to patch the cowl and he was going to drive it a couple of years before we repaired the cowl and repainted the car.

We also found the front floor pans had been patched and the tack welds were bad. The owner decided to have us fix it right. This is what we found under that beautiful paint and a lot of bondo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0543_zpsfguxwntf.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0545_zps8idc632o.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0546_zpscuv3qcmp.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0547_zps9uguyoyc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0550_zpsshqslm6h.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0552_zps1plrrpqi.jpg


They had cut out a section and had a couple of pieces of plastic stuck in there with fiberglass mat over it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0554_zpsu6mbgmq6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0549_zpsksyv5yjl.jpg

This is what they were covering

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0555_zpssthyjbds.jpg

If you are buying a car that was just painted make sure you see a lot of photos showing how it was repaired before it was painted. This was done by a shop that thank goodness is no longer in business.

[GMTILT]

this is why I couldn't never hold a job working in a shop, I have seen shops put that spray foam in the qtrs. to cover up the same thing, got fired one time because I asked the boss why they were putting two different color rear windows on a 97 suburban they were painting it was a silver and a dark tint glass on the back, he told me it was none of my business and said I was FIRED !

I laughed got my box and left, I cannot believe they are still open to this day !

whenever I painted a car here at home I usually had several hundred pics of just the metal work, must have pictures showing work !! never trust a shop that say's they don't take pictures, the shop that fired me didn't take pics !

[Evan Iroc-Z]

My conscience would eat me alive if I sold a car like that. It's a good thing the car is now in capable hands.

[Justin@EntropyRad]

I've always been sketchy about fresh color on a car...do the rear pilars and quarters look like that stuff was ready to flake off while driving?

[GPR]

I've always been sketchy about fresh color on a car...do the rear pilars and quarters look like that stuff was ready to flake off while driving?

No the paint did not look that bad and the panels were pretty straight. I did see a few sand scratches and the paint was chipped where the door hit the quarter at the top.

[HPIcustoms]

Wow! As an ex-autobody man that's just horrible. Those kinds of idiots that pull that stuff gave guys like me who do proper jobs a bad name.

Always been a rule of thumb when a new paint job is on a car, to ALWAYS check with a fine tooth comb and even better, bring a magnet to check for actual metal. Doing so has helped me a few times from not getting stuck with a lemon.

Friend of mine found out the hard way 5 years ago when he bought himself a nice '68 Camaro, the entire thing was hack jobbed together and lucky it basically didn't fall apart when he drove it.

Good to see it was all caught early.

[waynieZ]

The C pillar rot looks like the only thing structural holding it together was the quarter skins.

[WSSix]

My conscience would eat me alive if I sold a car like that. It's a good thing the car is now in capable hands.

I'm the same way. I don't see how anyone could do this to another person. Of course, to the seller this may have been an acceptable way to repair the car.

[Build-It-Break-it]

Geez that thing is bad. Mustangs are pretty cheap and available, I would consider starting with a better body. After sheet metal work ,panel costs, labor, some things aren't worth saving. Can't believe some people. You can't completely blame the shop tho,the customer may have insisted on having it fixed quick and cheap. When the economy was even worse then now I've seen some shady things done at a few places and called them out on it. People get desperate and don't want to loose the money from the customer and work like this becomes the norm. :disgusted:

[GPR]

Geez that thing is bad. Mustangs are pretty cheap and available, I would consider starting with a better body. After sheet metal work ,panel costs, labor, some things aren't worth saving. Can't believe some people. You can't completely blame the shop tho,the customer may have insisted on having it fixed quick and cheap. When the economy was even worse then now I've seen some shady things done at a few places and called them out on it. People get desperate and don't want to loose the money from the customer and work like this becomes the norm. :disgusted:

The shop on the North East Coast of Fl owned the car then built and sold the car.

[next69]

I cannot imagine the emotional free fall of having a nice car, taking it in for a few upgrades and then have to basically go back to square one.

Wouldn't want to be the guy that sold it, that is for sure!

[Zoomin]

Seems like a guy could make a good living by inventing a sort of X-ray machine that would easily reveal this crap. Most people, myself included, don't have the skills to detect that kind of crap.

Those people need to be horsewhipped, drawn and quartered, and vivisected.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Mustangs suck for this. The metal is just thin and not sealed. If i ever build another fast back for myself Im going Goodmark all the way.

[dhutton]

I am not understanding why he is investing so much more money in a coupe. He should cut his losses and move his parts over to a fastback shell where he at least stands a chance of recouping his investment.

Don

[GPR]

A few more photos.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0575_zpspyzizhld.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0579_zpsc5xzxymn.jpg

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[GPR]

These are the last photos I will post on this thread. I will start a new one once the parts come in to start the restoration.

The upper and lower cowl came off as one piece only had two small welds close to the windshield pillar on both sides

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0583_zpsr7khrdkp.jpg

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[214Chevy]

Wowwwww!! Makes you want to go and get the :guns: for real.

[Boss 5.0]

I feel so bad for that guy. What a punch in then gut to see all that rot.

[tones2SS]

Wowwwww!! Makes you want to go and get the :guns: for real.

I feel so bad for that guy. What a punch in then gut to see all that rot.

I totally agree.
I would have been sick.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Yep, that sort of stuff will take the wind out of your sails.

Going that far, might as well order up Fastback sheet metal. :welder:

[Che70velle]

Yep, that sort of stuff will take the wind out of your sails.

Going that far, might as well order up Fastback sheet metal. :welder:

I agree with Vince. I'd convert it to a Fastback, if it were mine, at this point.
Is the shop that originally built this car, a reputable place?
A little rust in a car is one thing. A car like this, which is pretty much rotted out, concealed by a nice new shiny paint job...this is a totally different sermon.
Just wrong!

[WSSix]

I think I would have cut my losses and scrapped the car. Man I feel bad for the guy.

[rjsjea]

I think I would have cut my losses and scrapped the car. Man I feel bad for the guy.

AGREE.....pull out the decent stuff and scrap it.

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Going that far, might as well order up Fastback sheet metal. :welder:

Give Vince a welder and a beer, he'll build the world!:mock:

[GPR]

I said I wasn't going to add to this thread but I wanted to show what was left of his original Mustang that we could use.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0645_zpsplyxz7qi.jpg

He found a donor body and we will be removing the sheetmetal and epoxy priming everything and fitting new sheetmetal. Today starts the build of his Mustang.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/Chads%201966%20Coupe/DSCN0651_zpsi5xpoza9.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

That is nucking futs! :confused59: :drowninga:

At least the owner is in good hands now!

[GregWeld]

One time I was at Marcel's - and talking to them about some sheetmetal fab on the '36 Five window I had.... and Marcel pulls the cigarette out of his mouth and says "Gleg... you bring me lace... I can build you a whole 'ucking' ca from scratch cheaper dan repair dis POS"......

[preston]

>Going that far, might as well order up Fastback sheet metal.

Oh man no love for the coupe ?

The workingman's Mustang ?

Always liked the coupes better (pre '69 of course), they just looked tougher to me. Trans Am racing, bla bla bla.

[GPR]

>Going that far, might as well order up Fastback sheet metal.

Oh man no love for the coupe ?

The workingman's Mustang ?

Always liked the coupes better (pre '69 of course), they just looked tougher to me. Trans Am racing, bla bla bla.

I think you will like his restomod coupe once we start building it.

I like mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/rusty428cj/1968%20Coupe/DSCN5210_zps12d115d5.jpg