C6 Weld-On Flange Ends

[MillerBuilt]

This style is NO LONGER stocked and is available by special order only. All previous pricing listed below is void.... Click this link www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=52443 to be taken to the current offering!


Hello!

I have recently designed a component for my personal use/car, and wanted to see if there is any interest from others for this product. At this point, and mainly due to time involved to perfect and small runs, I am basically selling at what it costs to make in hopes of getting some feed back/exposure.
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This design enables you to take full advantage of C5/6/7 Corvette technology on your existing or new rear housing. This kit will install onto nearly ALL rear-end housings! Some of the benefits of this system are:



Full Floater type benefits - (eliminate Piston knock-back & Torsional axle load)
Utilizes ALL OEM & Aftermarket brake kits made for C5/6 Corvettes
Utilizes the OEM C5/6 Corvette E-Brake assembly
Utilizes the OEM C6/7 Corvette Bearing/Hub Assembly
Utilizes the OEM C5/6 Corvette Fasteners
ABS compatible
Optional "self installation" through the use of available/for loan fixturing (see below)




"The Basic Kit" I am offering is made up of (6) pieces total of which I have listed below. It will allow you to run the ever so popular, “over the counter” C6/7 Corvette Hubs, C5/6 E-Brake, Calipers & Rotors (including ALL aftermarket brake kits designed for C5/6). The cool thing is you can purchase these “over the counter” parts as you can afford as kind of a self-finance plan OR you can buy everything from me in what I call my "Complete Kit".

"The Basic Kit" - $900.00 Plus Shipping/PayPal

(2) Billet Steel weld on flanges
(2) Billet aluminum hub spacers
(2) Axle seals


Below Pic is "The Basic Kit"....
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"The Complete Kit" I am offering will come with all of the "Basic Kit" items listed above, but will also include items listed below in Green.

(2) C7 SKF 33 spline Hub/Bearing Packs (robust like the 2013 ZR1 hub)
(2) Complete Parking/Emergency Brake Assemblies.
(2) Parking/Emergency Brake Cable Brackets
(6) Hub to Upright Bolts
(4) Parking/Emergency Brake Cable Bracket Bolts
(4) Caliper Mounting Bolts
(4) Caliper Mounting Bolt Washers
(2) Axle Nuts


"The Complete Kit" - $1650.00 Plus Shipping/PayPal

Below pic is "The Complete Kit"....

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Axles are the ONLY aftermarket part needed to run and can be purchased through me @Strange Engineering for $825 a pair for the Gun-drilled & at $575 a pair for the NON Gun-drilled. (yes, not cheap but both variants are machined from their Hy-Tuf material…) The hub side spline count will be 33 to accommodate the C6/7 Hub , and the carrier end can be 30/31/33/35.

*The (2) weld on Steel Flange Ends included in the kit will need to be fixture welded to your housings axle tubes. I can do this for you (for a fee), OR I can loan (with $450 fully refundable deposit), the correct alignment/fixturing bushings (to include 3rd Member pucks & C6 Flange alignment blocks) and you will only need to use your 3rd member case & purchase a 1-1/2” diameter by 60” long alignment bar through Mittler Brothers unless maybe you know of a local source that already has a 1-1/2" alignment bar,,,,,, but it needs to be straight! The bar through Mittler Brothers is $130 plus shipping. http://www.mittlerbros.com/turned-ground-polished-1-1-2-dia-shaft.html (or as I have been informed, SUMMIT RACING has these bars by Mittler Brothers that they ship for FREE!)

Here are a few pics of the fixture pieces I will loan you. (These are also for sale if you wish to purchase at $425.00 which includes shipping/PayPal)


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Machined flat spot to help assist with "Caliper Clocking" when weling on the Flange End


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Please feel free to ask questions and I will do the best I can in answering.


Pic with C7 Hub (Hub NOT included in "Basic Kit")
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Pic with C7 Hub (Hub NOT included in "Basic Kit")
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Pic with C7 Hub & C6 ZO6 Caliper (Hub not included in "Basic Kit" & Caliper NOT included in either "Basic or Complete")
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Pic with C7 Hub & C6 ZO6 Caliper (Hub not included in "Basic Kit" & Caliper NOT included in either "Basic or Complete")
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Please note alignment dowels. A feature to eliminate any chance of shifting between weld on flange and spacer under extreme situations. Overkill? Maybe :)
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Not a huge deal, but want it known that this setup will utilize OEM Hub fasteners.
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Again, just a pic to show the OEM caliper bolts...
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More random pics of set-up...

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Please do not hesitate to ask questions. Thanks for considering!

[raustinss]

So 800$ plus rental....and this will take my 12 bolt to a full floater with ZR1 brakes

[Ron in SoCal]

Jay - love it! Shocker I know. :lol:

The built in caiiper mount is a home run compared to prior designs and I'm sure will improve braking performance. If I may suggest, package a complete solution and you've got a winner.

Ryan I've not seen the whole package but I'm guessing you'd need axles, inner and / or outer seals and some mechanism to locate the axle (plate or nuts and bolts - simple).

[MillerBuilt]

So 800$ plus rental....and this will take my 12 bolt to a full floater with ZR1 brakes



$800 plus shipping/PayPal (guessing $45ish)... I will loan you the inner 3.062" pucks for your 12 bolt rear AND the outer fixturing pucks for the C6 ends for FREE. You will only be required to leave a $450 refundable deposit of which will be returned via PayPal once returned and in good condition. You will also be responsible for the shipping to/from on these loaned fixturing pieces. Yes, your ZR1 brakes will be a direct bolt on at that point.

Thanks for the interest!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

It's about time Jay.

These will take the parking brake assemblies too.

How much would you sell the end alignment slugs for? I have the Mitler set up already. Do they bolt to the 3 hole flange or are they the standard slug/puck design?

[MillerBuilt]

Jay - love it! Shocker I know. :lol:

The built in caiiper mount is a home run compared to prior designs and I'm sure will improve braking performance. If I may suggest, package a complete solution and you've got a winner.

Ryan I've not seen the whole package but I'm guessing you'd need axles, inner and / or outer seals and some mechanism to locate the axle (plate or nuts and bolts - simple).

Thanks Ron! You have always supported and even eased the moments sometimes with your positive attitude/comments when I most definitely deserved a good :buttkick:

I love your suggestion (complete package) and am working on that too. I have a ton of ideas and will be sharing those soon too.

[MillerBuilt]

It's about time Jay.

These will take the parking brake assemblies too.

How much would you sell the end alignment slugs for? I have the Mitler set up already. Do they bolt to the 3 hole flange or are they the standard slug/puck design?

Hi Vince,

Yes, they do take the C5/6 parking brake assemblies. Actually if you choose not to run the e-brake/backing plate for whatever the reason, you would need to run a shim to account for the thickness of the backing plate to get proper caliper/rotor alignment. But I am assuming anyone interested in this setup would utilize the e-brake. Good question though.

The "C6 End" fixture pieces do bolt to the three holes in the weld on flange end and positively locate it . Give me a few days on pricing for you on these as I only had one set made, and depending on interest may run multiples which brings my price down with my machinist and ultimately to the end purchaser. Hopefully you!

I will let you know soon...

[Che70velle]

I will be all over this when late summer/ early fall arrives. Exactly what I've been looking for.
Jay, what material will you be cutting the production bracketry from?
Also, are the axles an "in stock" item at Strange, or will they be built per order, with a wait time?

[MillerBuilt]

I will be all over this when late summer/ early fall arrives. Exactly what I've been looking for.
Jay, what material will you be cutting the production bracketry from?
Also, are the axles an "in stock" item at Strange, or will they be built per order, with a wait time?

Scott,

Steel Flanges are and will remain 1018, and the Aluminum Spacers from 6061. To not confuse anyone I would like to say I am just a guy in a garage with ideas/resources to make my ideas come to life. So I kinda laugh when I here the word production cuz that sounds Big :) . I am sharing this part (and others soon) for three reasons. One - to help offset the cost of my own set. Two - hopefully offer others with same interest another option. Three - possibly strike enough interest to actually make some :G-Dub:

The axles are made per order and are not in stock.

Thanks, Jay

[Rick D]

Very nice Jay, glad to see you still have the crestive juices flowing!! :grouphug:

[mitch_04]

I sure hope these are still around when I get to the point of needing them!

[MillerBuilt]

Very nice Jay, glad to see you still have the crestive juices flowing!! :grouphug:

Thanks Rick!

[MillerBuilt]

I sure hope these are still around when I get to the point of needing them!

There is no time like the present! Pay the mortgage with what's left!

[Build-It-Break-it]

Do you have pictures of everything installed on the rear end? I like the set up. If I didn't have me rear end already done this might of been the route I took.

[MillerBuilt]

Do you have pictures of everything installed on the rear end? I like the set up. If I didn't have me rear end already done this might of been the route I took.

Her is one in the alignment fixture....


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[Vince@Meanstreets]

Who's lateral dynamics rear housing? Yours?

[MillerBuilt]

Who's lateral dynamics rear housing? Yours?

This was a customers. I have/will be running a Strange Housing. Really like them.

[kevmurray]

Very nice pieces! I was planning to do this myself recently, though I would have to do my own machining. This is a nice option.

[no go nova]

Wish this was around before I bought my wilwood rear breaks. Love your bringing good ideas to life.

[takid455]

I am guessing axle will have a threaded portion on the end such to affix a nut? Wont this 'pull' on the 'C' clips and cause unwanted wear? 9" applications wont have this issue what will prevent the axle from sliding out on a 9"

Just not picturing the axle setup at the moment.

[dontlifttoshift]

You don't use the c clips anymore, the hub would hold the axle in place then.

[MillerBuilt]

Very nice pieces! I was planning to do this myself recently, though I would have to do my own machining. This is a nice option.
Thanks for the compliment.

Wish this was around before I bought my wilwood rear breaks. Love your bringing good ideas to life.
Thank you, Ive got a few more ideas Ill be sharing too!

I am guessing axle will have a threaded portion on the end such to affix a nut? Wont this 'pull' on the 'C' clips and cause unwanted wear? 9" applications wont have this issue what will prevent the axle from sliding out on a 9"

Just not picturing the axle setup at the moment.
Great questions and looks like Donny (below) answered. Thanks for looking.

You don't use the c clips anymore, the hub would hold the axle in place then.
Thanks for helping out with questions.

[Ron in SoCal]

^ Jay the axles need to be located so they don't float in and out of the 3rd member. Stielow's design uses an oem style nut on the axle ends. On my ford 9", there's a plate screwed into the outside hub center with a bolt running into the axle to keep it in position.

Strange is making your axles, correct? If so I'm sure they have a provision for this.

[mfain]

Jay,

I think I got the answers I needed - I assume the axles (Strange) have a shoulder that goes against the inside of the bearing and probably a nut (ala Corvette) that goes outside the bearing splines. That means you must remove the hub to pull the axle? And I assume the seal presses inside your axle end flange. I plan on adding the bearings to a Pontiac housing to go under a 62 Corvette (offset 3-link) for a little autocross fun. Do you have a kit built up and ready to sell? Also, looks like your alignment tool is set up for a 1.5 inch bar - do you happen to have one for a 2 inch bar?

Pappy

[MillerBuilt]

^ Jay the axles need to be located so they don't float in and out of the 3rd member. Stielow's design uses an oem style nut on the axle ends. On my ford 9", there's a plate screwed into the outside hub center with a bolt running into the axle to keep it in position.

Strange is making your axles, correct? If so I'm sure they have a provision for this.

You are correct Ron. My set-up utilizes the OEM lock as well.

[MillerBuilt]

Jay,

I think I got the answers I needed - I assume the axles (Strange) have a shoulder that goes against the inside of the bearing and probably a nut (ala Corvette) that goes outside the bearing splines. That means you must remove the hub to pull the axle? And I assume the seal presses inside your axle end flange. I plan on adding the bearings to a Pontiac housing to go under a 62 Corvette (offset 3-link) for a little autocross fun. Do you have a kit built up and ready to sell? Also, looks like your alignment tool is set up for a 1.5 inch bar - do you happen to have one for a 2 inch bar?

Pappy

Pappy, you are correct. The hub will butt against a shoulder/washer on the axle, the outer threads on the axle will accept the OEM axle nut to anchor the hub to the axle, and the hubs 3 bolt flange will bolt to the weld on C6 Flange End/Spacer to positively locate the axle. Yes the hub must be removed to pull the axle, and yes the seal presses into the Weld on C6 Flange.
Yes the fixture pieces I offer are setup for 1.5" alignment bars.
I do have kits available to ship.
I will have COMPLETE kits ready by this Wednesday. The "complete kits" will include (2) SKF 33 spline (additional ball bearing/thicker flange - ZR1 style) Bearing Packs, Complete E-brake setup, OEM Fasteners necessary to mount install hub, e-brake bracket, OEM Caliper, and OEM axle nuts. Pics and pricing will be posted soon.

Thanks, Jay

[Ppd1979]

Jay, just wondering if you have a price for the kits.

[raustinss]

Hey Jay
Just wondering also the price as well as can I purchase a "complete" kit without the calipers. Reason being I'm running ZR1 carbon ceramic brakes and already have the calipers

[MillerBuilt]

Jay, just wondering if you have a price for the kits.

Hey Jay
Just wondering also the price as well as can I purchase a "complete" kit without the calipers. Reason being I'm running ZR1 carbon ceramic brakes and already have the calipers


Hey guys, thank you for the interest and I will have pictures posted with prices tomorrow.
Thanks! Jay

[MillerBuilt]

Hey Jay
Just wondering also the price as well as can I purchase a "complete" kit without the calipers. Reason being I'm running ZR1 carbon ceramic brakes and already have the calipers

The "complete" kits I will have pictured tomorrow and that I will be offering WILL NOT include any rotors or calipers.

With that said I do believe the actual parking brake backing plate for the ZR1 brakes are different than ALL others for some reason. I recall seeing different part# for the ZR1.... I may need to put a slightly different kit together for you. I will look into this tomorrow and see what I come up with.
Thanks!

[Sonar Chief]

This is an outstanding idea ... I'm glad you are sharing with the folks your ideas, may need to do that conversion on my 12 bolt.

I will watch the progress fer sure, thanks again for sharing!

[MillerBuilt]

This is an outstanding idea ... I'm glad you are sharing with the folks your ideas, may need to do that conversion on my 12 bolt.

I will watch the progress fer sure, thanks again for sharing!

Thank you Chief!

[MillerBuilt]

Here are a few shots of the Fixture Pieces. These are the pieces I am loaning out, I will be requiring a deposit that will be fully refundable upon safe return. You will also be responsible for the shipping to/from.

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I designed the fixture block with a convenient flat spot to allow your Smart Tool or similar in clocking the weld-on C6 Flange so that you can get your Caliper orientation/degree just right!

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This is another nice little detail to help during installation of your weld-on C6 Flanges. The fixture blocks have been machined in thickness to mimic your wheel mount surface once all your finish components are installed. This way you can pull a tape from outside of fixture block to outside of fixture block and verify your exact WMS to WMS before welding!


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For you professional shops that may be wanting to make this rear setup a regular part of your builds, I am also selling these same pieces as pictured below... includes inner 3.062 pucks, outer C6 blocks, hardware $425.00 shipped

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[MillerBuilt]

Here is a picture of a "Complete Kit". Please forgive me but I still do not have the pricing prepared. Hope to have this posted tomorrow. Figured I would go ahead and post the pics to at least give the viewers something :underchair:



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Below are some "Complete Kit" assembled pictures. The only thing NOT in the picture, that IS included are the Caliper Bolts/Washers, and Axle Nuts, since they really had no purpose installed at this stage during pics (plus I forgot to set them out) :D

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

now lets see some universal axles for it. :thumbsup:

I got your PM, trying to rally for it.

[MillerBuilt]

now lets see some universal axles for it. :thumbsup:

I got your PM, trying to rally for it.

Universal as in, Extra length on the carrier side splines so that you can stock multiple sets and cut to length yourself as needed? :poke:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Universal as in, Extra length on the carrier side splines so that you can stock multiple sets and cut to length yourself as needed? :poke:

:D

Average length is 26 3/4" to 31" so a 5" spline run in a 31" axle should be good. :thumbsup:

[mitch_04]

Absolutely beautiful!

[mfain]

I picked mine up yesterday. The quality is as good as it looks in the photos! Thanks Jay.

Pappy

[Ron in SoCal]

Great job Jay :thumbsup:

[mfain]

Jay,

I bolted up the largest radial mount caliper and rotor I had (14 inch StopTech 6 piston) to make sure the radial mount bracket would clear the caliper mount tabs - perfect! For those with good eyes, the hub/bearing is a C7 front (no splines).

Pappy

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52563

[MillerBuilt]

Absolutely beautiful!

Thanks!

I picked mine up yesterday. The quality is as good as it looks in the photos! Thanks Jay.

Thank you Pappy, it was a pleasure talking with you. YOU are a bucket of knowledge!

Pappy

Great job Jay :thumbsup:

Thanks Ron!

Jay,

I bolted up the largest radial mount caliper and rotor I had (14 inch StopTech 6 piston) to make sure the radial mount bracket would clear the caliper mount tabs - perfect! For those with good eyes, the hub/bearing is a C7 front (no splines).

Pappy

52562

52563

WOW! Looks awesome with those Bad Boys!! Thanks again Pappy!

[MillerBuilt]

Couple more pics with ZO6 Type Caliper & Z06 Rotor

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[raustinss]

So again would this work with the larger ZR1 set up

[MillerBuilt]

So again would this work with the larger ZR1 set up

Yes, this setup will work with your ZR1 brakes. The ONLY thing in question was the e-brake backing plate because I had recalled seeing a different part# for the ZR1. But I just slipped an actual ZR1 rotor hat onto this setup and it fit fine. If you have any other questions please ask.

Thanks, Jay

[MillerBuilt]

Hello Lat-G People,

As of this Tuesday (1-27-15) I am increasing the price of the "Basic Kits" by $100.00, which now will take them up to $900.00. The "Complete kit price will remain the same at $1550.00 as an incentive to purchase the "Complete Kit".
I was hoping to have a larger interest in the product which would have allowed me to keep the price were it was at, but it seems for now the manufacturing runs will remain too small to yield me any profit and although I enjoy sharing my ideas/products,,,, I cannot do it pro bono :shakehead:
Hopefully you all understand. With that being said, I have sold the first available kits and will be purchasing material Monday to start (3) more. I am expecting to have these available by weeks end for those who are interested. Remember, I am still honoring the $800.00 price up until end of this Monday...

Thank you, Jay

[Vince@Meanstreets]

You should be good after you have a couple kits out and they get reviews.


Hang in there man. I know what its like to double down and hold your breath.

[MillerBuilt]

You should be good after you have a couple kits out and they get reviews.


Hang in there man. I know what its like to double down and hold your breath.

I think so to Vince. I think the next sets will go fast. I am also having another set of alignment blocks made this round as I gear up for the shopping frenzy. That way I have two sets to loan out :)

[JKnight]

Hi Jay,

I'm local to you and would consider bringing you my existing 9" rear to have you install this for me. Do you have a rough idea of install cost? I won't hold you to it, not looking for a firm estimate.

Also, If I have non-e-brake C5 Z06 rear brakes on the car now (Kore3), would your complete kit & parking brake work with my existing rear brakes?

[mfain]

I think so to Vince. I think the next sets will go fast. I am also having another set of alignment blocks made this round as I gear up for the shopping frenzy. That way I have two sets to loan out :)

Jay,

Have you considered sub-contracting a fab shop to do the installs for you? Someone you could provide the fixtures to and then could recommend or send your customers to have the ends installed? That would keep you from having to enter the fabrication end of the business, unless that is something you want to do. It would also build a dependable fabrication capability with someone who would then have experience with your product, eliminating the trial-and-error scenario with a bunch of different shops with unknown capabilities.

Pappy

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Hi Jay,

I'm local to you and would consider bringing you my existing 9" rear to have you install this for me. Do you have a rough idea of install cost? I won't hold you to it, not looking for a firm estimate.

Also, If I have non-e-brake C5 Z06 rear brakes on the car now (Kore3), would your complete kit & parking brake work with my existing rear brakes?

It should work depending the the rotor that you have whether it has a shoe hat or not. This would replace your Kore# bracket and rear end flange. Caliper should work fine.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Jay,

Have you considered sub-contracting a fab shop to do the installs for you? Someone you could provide the fixtures to and then could recommend or send your customers to have the ends installed? That would keep you from having to enter the fabrication end of the business, unless that is something you want to do. It would also build a dependable fabrication capability with someone who would then have experience with your product, eliminating the trial-and-error scenario with a bunch of different shops with unknown capabilities.

Pappy

:_paranoid

:D

[dontlifttoshift]

I can throw my hat in that ring as well. I have the necessary tooling and am far enough away from Vince that I don't think he'll be mad.:lol:

[JKnight]

It should work depending the the rotor that you have whether it has a shoe hat or not. This would replace your Kore# bracket and rear end flange. Caliper should work fine.

Good call Vince, didn't think about rotors having the shoe hat or not. I'll have to check on that.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I can throw my hat in that ring as well. I have the necessary tooling and am far enough away from Vince that I don't think he'll be mad.:lol:


:grouphug:


The more the merrier....Jay is very much like me. Have to keep us fed so we can grow product.

I have a saying " I make money, we all make money"

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Good call Vince, didn't think about rotors having the shoe hat or not. I'll have to check on that.

link to picture

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[raustinss]

:grouphug:


The more the merrier....Jay is very much like me. Have to keep us fed so we can grow product.

I have a saying " I make money, we all make money"

I'm a fabricator with 10 plus years of customer fab experience I'd be interested north of the border...farther from all of you lol

[JKnight]

[QUOTE=Vince@MSperfab;591805]link to picture

So you just mean, a non-2 piece rotor/lightweight hat kind of setup.

[MillerBuilt]

Jay,

Have you considered sub-contracting a fab shop to do the installs for you? Someone you could provide the fixtures to and then could recommend or send your customers to have the ends installed? That would keep you from having to enter the fabrication end of the business, unless that is something you want to do. It would also build a dependable fabrication capability with someone who would then have experience with your product, eliminating the trial-and-error scenario with a bunch of different shops with unknown capabilities.

Pappy

Pappy, GREAT suggestion. I would love to work with a good group of guys that could offer installation. That would be a huge help to me and a great convenience to others wanting to run this setup that may not have the ability to take advantage of the fixture pieces I am loaning.

The ONLY down side I see is the shipping costs that are involved with shipping housings to & from, and was why I came up with the idea to "loan the proprietary tools" necessary to get it done. With that said I would be completely grateful to those fabricators willing to provide your services! :thankyou:


Pappy, Vince, Donny, and Ryan, first off, THANK YOU. Maybe you three can PM me your addresses/phone numbers so that I can list in my 1st post as sources that are willing/able to get it done! It will be up to you guys if you want to list a price to install the Flange Ends or choose to quote over the phone?

As for you JKnight - PM me your contact info and I will give you a shout tomorrow and will tackle yours.

Jay

[MillerBuilt]

I wanted to add some information about these parts. I would have thought someone might have asked by now, but since no one has, I'll just provide the information in a Q&A format :D

Question: "Will I be able to install your C6 Flange Kit while maintaining my same Wheel Mount Surface measurement?

Answer: YES, and depending on what Flange End you currently run and will be cutting off, will ultimately determine if you will require a 1/2" wheel spacer. Again, this is based on your current flange end. Different manufactures are different in length. For example, IF your current Big Ford (Torino) Flange End is 2" long from the face to were it welds to your axle tube,,,, then by the time you cut the Big Ford Flange End off and install this C6 Kit, you would require a 1/2" wheel spacer to obtain your current WMS to WMS measurement. BUTTTTTT, IF your current flange end that will be cut off is 1-1/2", you will NOT require any wheel spacer to obtain your existing WMS to WMS.

Hope this makes sense. I have also posted a question in the "Sticky" in the suspension thread area for hopefully Ron Sutton to chime in on as to the acceptance of this 1/2" wheel spacer if it should be needed to obtain your existing WMS. Hopefully that was the right area.

Thanks, Jay

[raustinss]

PM sent

[Vince@Meanstreets]

[QUOTE=Vince@MSperfab;591805]link to picture

So you just mean, a non-2 piece rotor/lightweight hat kind of setup.

yep!!

[MillerBuilt]

For those that have asked. I will have more kits available this Wednesday.

Thanks, Jay

[RussMurco]

This is exactly what I need and I will be purchasing later in the spring! I'm still paying for my ZR1 brake set-up and that has been.... sobering!
:brix:

[MillerBuilt]

This is exactly what I need and I will be purchasing later in the spring! I'm still paying for my ZR1 brake set-up and that has been.... sobering!
:brix:

Perfect, I appreciate the support!:thankyou:

[MillerBuilt]

I have 3 more sets available, actually 2 as one of these is on its way to PA tomorrow! These other 2 still need a good home :poke:


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[MillerBuilt]

I have had a few questions as to the axle arrangement. Thought I would post the drawings to help visualize.
Hope to have real world pics as customers start getting these kits installed.
Also thought I would share that STRANGE ENGINEERING is on board to install these kits too!

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/PIC-3_zps21be8e5b.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/PIC-3_zps21be8e5b.jpg.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/PIC-4_zps08b40f50.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/PIC-4_zps08b40f50.jpg.html)

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[Build-It-Break-it]

What's holding the axle in place on the hub side? Is the axle threaded on that end and secured with a nut?

[MillerBuilt]

What's holding the axle in place on the hub side? Is the axle threaded on that end and secured with a nut?

Yes, the "real axle" has threads (M27) that excepts a C6 OEM lock nut which are included in the "complete kit".

[raustinss]

Is it safe to say that strange engineering can also do the axles? Also I'm confused as to what the black disc is behind the hub in your3d model pictures

[Vince@Meanstreets]

parking brake plate

[MillerBuilt]

Is it safe to say that strange engineering can also do the axles? Also I'm confused as to what the black disc is behind the hub in your3d model pictures

Yes, that would be very safe to say. Technically axles were available through STRANGE upon my original posting.
Also as Vince stated (Thanks Vince), The black disc represents the parking brake backing plate. Unfortunately I do not have these GM CAD files so I just created a disk with the proper thickness to represent the backing plate.

[samckitt]

I have had a few questions as to the axle arrangement. Thought I would post the drawings to help visualize.
Hope to have real world pics as customers start getting these kits installed.
Also thought I would share that STRANGE ENGINEERING is on board to install these kits too!

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/PIC-3_zps21be8e5b.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/PIC-3_zps21be8e5b.jpg.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/PIC-4_zps08b40f50.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/PIC-4_zps08b40f50.jpg.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/PIC-5_zps256e289a.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/PIC-5_zps256e289a.jpg.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/PIC-2_zpse17e25b8.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/PIC-2_zpse17e25b8.jpg.html)


These are cool What CAD system are you using?

[MillerBuilt]

These are cool What CAD system are you using?


Thanks!
All designs are done in SW 2012.

[Ron in SoCal]

Jay on the front of C5/C6 spindle and hub applications there is a spacer from GM that is used to hold the abs harness wires and move the rotor out about 20 to 30 thousandths. It's about a $12 part from GM. I'm wondering if one would need it in your application (or my existing one)? The only way I would know to tell is to mock up a rotor and caliper and see if the rotor is to far inboard of center.

Hope this helps,

Edit: I believe they are called ABS Sensor attachment brackets.
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/92569-Wilwood-Caliper-Alignment?p=933965#post933965

[MillerBuilt]

Jay on the front of C5/C6 spindle and hub applications there is a spacer from GM that is used to hold the abs harness wires and move the rotor out about 20 to 30 thousandths. It's about a $12 part from GM. I'm wondering if one would need it in your application (or my existing one)? The only way I would know to tell is to mock up a rotor and caliper and see if the rotor is to far inboard of center.

Hope this helps,

Edit: I believe they are called ABS Sensor attachment brackets.
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/92569-Wilwood-Caliper-Alignment?p=933965#post933965

Hey Ron, for the rear of C5/6 Corvettes, the parking brake backing plate is that "spacer" and has the attachment point for the ABS pigtail on it.

PS. I would assume that your set up so long as it was designed to take OEM parking brake, would already be accounted into the machine dimensions of your/Blakes weld on ends. And just FYI, The rear parking brake backing plate accounts for approximately .045".

UPDATE: Pictured below are the C5/6 rear (left) and front (right) ABS sensor attachment brackets. As you can see on the rear they are incorporated into the e-brake backing plate.
UPDATE TO THE UPDATE: Another little detail/tidbit is that I have physically measured rear e-brake plates at anywhere from .042"-.046" thickness, and the fronts plates/abs sensor brackets always seem to be a little thicker at .055-.062". Overall the differences will never be noticed by anyone not looking for it but just figured I would share the findings. Personally I chalk it up to +/- tollerences within the parts themselves AND the coating process...

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[bsharpe]

I have been working with Jay(JSM) since he originally posted his c5/c6 flange setup. I knew that I wanted to use this type of flange on my current build. I was honestly waiting for DSE to finalize their setup using Steilows flanges.

I am extremely happy that Jay offered his flanges first.
This setup is not only better and more versatile(ABS brakes) than all the other options but it is also cheaper than most. The flanges might seem expensive when compared to a set of Ford Big bearing flanges($80) but you don't need brackets like those available from Kore3($750 for parking brake).

I ordered the flanges and jig ends from Jay. I also ordered Mittler Bros 60" alignment bar from Jegs($130) and the 2.890 inner alignment blocks($80) for the third member from JEGS.

Jay will loan the larger inner alignment blocks but the third member cases with larger bearings are harder to find and are more expensive. I bought a empty case for $40 on craigslist and now own a Jig for any 9" housing.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/20150202_174639_zpsml90ehxc.jpg

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/20150222_170540_zpszhkstbd6.jpg

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Assembling the fixture and using the jigs is extremely simple especially with the flat spots to locate the calipers.

Truck Tech on spike had a good episode on building a custom 9". You can watch them online http://www.powernationtv.com/episode/TT2015-02/custom-9-rear-gear


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[MillerBuilt]

I have been working with Jay(JSM) since he originally posted his c5/c6 flange setup. I knew that I wanted to use this type of flange on my current build. I was honestly waiting for DSE to finalize their setup using Steilows flanges.

I am extremely happy that Jay offered his flanges first.
This setup is not only better and more versatile(ABS brakes) than all the other options but it is also cheaper than most. The flanges might seem expensive when compared to a set of Ford Big bearing flanges($80) but you don't need brackets like those available from Kore3($750 for parking brake).

I ordered the flanges and jig ends from Jay. I also ordered Mittler Bros 60" alignment bar from Jegs($130) and the 2.890 inner alignment blocks($80) for the third member from JEGS.

Jay will loan the larger inner alignment blocks but the third member cases with larger bearings are harder to find and are more expensive. I bought a empty case for $40 on craigslist and now own a Jig for any 9" housing.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/20150202_174639_zpsml90ehxc.jpg

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/20150222_170540_zpszhkstbd6.jpg

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/20150202_223522_zpswvyeaybf.jpg
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/20150202_223952_zps2qdemjr0.jpg

Assembling the fixture and using the jigs is extremely simple especially with the flat spots to locate the calipers.

Truck Tech on spike had a good episode on building a custom 9". You can watch them online http://www.powernationtv.com/episode/TT2015-02/custom-9-rear-gear


http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/20150216_223819_zpsqu7ge7fw.jpghttp://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah257/bsharpe4/Mobile%20Uploads/20150210_220651_zpsyhie0pa7.jpg
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Ben,

Thanks for posting your experience thus far with the product.

Jay

[mfain]

Jay,

Went out and dug a 60 Olds rear end out of salvage at Desert Auto Parts. I have a fresh 3.90 posi, 9.3 inch Pontiac with "all the good stuff". Totally bullet-proof. Got an alignment bar and inner alignment blocks (3.265 in.) from Mittler Bros. (57-64 Olds, Dana 44, and Chrysler 8.75). Bar and blocks will be available for loan after I am through using them. Going to Texas for the GoodGuys (Ft. Worth) in late March and will build up the housing there. I'm also taking the jigs so my son can build the LCAs for my 56 Corvette. I'll give you a call for the outer alignment blocks.

Pappy

[MillerBuilt]

Jay,

Went out and dug a 60 Olds rear end out of salvage at Desert Auto Parts. I have a fresh 3.90 posi, 9.3 inch Pontiac with "all the good stuff". Totally bullet-proof. Got an alignment bar and inner alignment blocks (3.265 in.) from Mittler Bros. (57-64 Olds, Dana 44, and Chrysler 8.75). Bar and blocks will be available for loan after I am through using them. Going to Texas for the GoodGuys (Ft. Worth) in late March and will build up the housing there. I'm also taking the jigs so my son can build the LCAs for my 56 Corvette. I'll give you a call for the outer alignment blocks.

Pappy

That sounds awesome Pappy! I (as well as others I am sure) am not familiar with those Olds rears but really look forward to your build pics! VERY unique and will definitely show just how universal this C6 set-up of mine is. I think we will most likely see them on Chevy 12 bolts and Ford 9" rears but love the fact you are stepping out of the box :thumbsup:
I also appreciate the offer out on the table for your bar/inner blocks to folks with your type application (Olds, Dana 44, Chrysler 8.75). I have a few sets of the outer alignment blocks now and will put your name on a set for your end of March trip!

PS. your wheel is safe and sound and will get it back to you soon :D

[MillerBuilt]

Here is a pic of my rear. It is a Strange 9" w/DSE brackets. Everything just tacked for now until I determine my best pinion angle...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3284_zpstdwj66fy.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3284_zpstdwj66fy.jpg.html)

Not 100% sure what brake package I will end up running, but for now I have these C6 ZO6 Calipers & Rotors.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3283_zpsjq72hwyz.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3283_zpsjq72hwyz.jpg.html)

[Ron in SoCal]

^ that's fugly dude. You better start over :D

:cheers:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

looks good!!!

[MillerBuilt]

^ that's fugly dude. You better start over :D

:cheers:


looks good!!!

:thankyou:

[Nativefx]

Looks great!!!:thumbsup:

[MillerBuilt]

Looks great!!!:thumbsup:

These set-ups LOVE Firebirds :poke:

[Nativefx]

These set-ups LOVE Firebirds :poke:

Tried calling you earlier and left a message with my number.

thanks, Jake

[MoparCar]

Will you have to straighten the housing after welding or will it be good if you TIG a bit at a time?

[MillerBuilt]

Will you have to straighten the housing after welding or will it be good if you TIG a bit at a time?

Great question!

The preferred/recommended method would be to first weld on ALL suspension brackets COMPLETELY. TIG being the preferred method but certainly not required.
If patience is practiced during welding (taking time between brackets, and allowing brief cooling periods), you will see VERY little movement of the axle tubes. The minimal axle tube movement you may experience will not effect the axle centerline at all once you install the weld-on flange ends with my/your jig set-up which puts the Ends/Hubs/Axles at perfect centerline with the carrier despite where the actual axle tube is. Although the flange may be slightly "offset" on the axle tube end, that is irrelevant and will not effect anything.
Now, with that said, IF the tubes pulled one way or the other for whatever the reason (or the housing came that way before getting started), you can straighten the tubes by applying a approx. 2" weld on the side you want to "pull up". This you will find will slowly pull the axle tube in the direction you are wanting it to go (of course after you have gotten the results you wanted you will need to grind/sand the weld smooth).
In extreme cases, you may have to quench the 2" weld with water that usually yields twice the results due to the instant cooling effect that springs the metal back at the applied weld.
I have only seen a few housings that required this treatment, and still was not really needed due to the fixturing process that installs the weld-on flange at perfect axle centerline. This mainly applies to a traditional style floater install that utilizes spindle "snouts" that actually install into the axle tubes, as apposed to a big ford end or like mine that simply butt weld to the axle tube end.
Hope all this makes sense.

Jay

[efs69]

Jay,

I'll trade you for my flanged rear....lol

Looks killer!

Efrain

[MillerBuilt]

Jay,

I'll trade you for my flanged rear....lol

Looks killer!

Efrain

Thanks Efrain, I am a serious fan of parts porn and find myself spending lots of time just looking at it!
If you currently have a Big Ford "Torino End" on your current housing, I will soon have a bolt on option for you. But shhhhhh, don't tell anyone....

[4mul8ion]

Thanks Efrain, I am a serious fan of parts porn and find myself spending lots of time just looking at it!
If you currently have a Big Ford "Torino End" on your current housing, I will soon have a bolt on option for you. But shhhhhh, don't tell anyone....

Uh oh. This sounds like trouble for me.
http://alexandranouri.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/seen-around.jpg

Not sure if I'm going be be able to resist the urge to upgrade.

Kevin

[MoparCar]

Great question!

The preferred/recommended method would be to first weld on ALL suspension brackets COMPLETELY. TIG being the preferred method but certainly not required.
If patience is practiced during welding (taking time between brackets, and allowing brief cooling periods), you will see VERY little movement of the axle tubes. The minimal axle tube movement you may experience will not effect the axle centerline at all once you install the weld-on flange ends with my/your jig set-up which puts the Ends/Hubs/Axles at perfect centerline with the carrier despite where the actual axle tube is. Although the flange may be slightly "offset" on the axle tube end, that is irrelevant and will not effect anything.
Now, with that said, IF the tubes pulled one way or the other for whatever the reason (or the housing came that way before getting started), you can straighten the tubes by applying a approx. 2" weld on the side you want to "pull up". This you will find will slowly pull the axle tube in the direction you are wanting it to go (of course after you have gotten the results you wanted you will need to grind/sand the weld smooth).
In extreme cases, you may have to quench the 2" weld with water that usually yields twice the results due to the instant cooling effect that springs the metal back at the applied weld.
I have only seen a few housings that required this treatment, and still was not really needed due to the fixturing process that installs the weld-on flange at perfect axle centerline. This mainly applies to a traditional style floater install that utilizes spindle "snouts" that actually install into the axle tubes, as apposed to a big ford end or like mine that simply butt weld to the axle tube end.
Hope all this makes sense.

Jay

Thanks for the info Jay.
Wes

[baddrides]

They look sweet Jay, top quality as expected......

[MillerBuilt]

Uh oh. This sounds like trouble for me.
http://alexandranouri.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/seen-around.jpg

Not sure if I'm going be be able to resist the urge to upgrade.

Kevin

This is going to be one very slick piece IMO. I have been working out all the MANY little details and am now ready to go! I wanted to be able to make this a true bolt on that requires NO fabrication, it will benefit EVERYONE that has an existing rear-end that currently has Big Ford "New Style/Torino" ends, and that would like to convert to this C6/7 set-up...
Based on your/others current 2.50" axle offset (most common) on your existing housing, this new C6/7 "bolt-on" set-up will add 1/4" to each sides wheel mounting surface due to design constraints while working around the Big Ford End/C6/7 assembly dimensions....

Many folks will be able to run their existing calipers & rotors too with the addition of new caliper brackets & rotor hats from the manufacturer of the caliper & rotor, so long as they offer your caliper/rotor in a C5/6 application (I know this gets confusing a bit, but I will assist you with all this if you are heading this direction).....



Thanks for the info Jay.
Wes

You're welcome Wes!

They look sweet Jay, top quality as expected......

They gotta be,,,,, got guys like you watching :thankyou:

[aany001]

Wow just stumbled across this thread wow!!! Really slick set up.

[RoadRace Elco]

i currently have a 12 bolt in my 66 elco, with wilwood 6 piston calipers, fixed. i do have pad knock back .

what do i need to do to make this kit work and do you have a complete kit for my application?

thanks

[MillerBuilt]

Wow just stumbled across this thread wow!!! Really slick set up.

Thanks!

i currently have a 12 bolt in my 66 elco, with wilwood 6 piston calipers, fixed. i do have pad knock back .

what do i need to do to make this kit work and do you have a complete kit for my application?

thanks

What flange ends do you run on your 12 bolt?

[airpanaia]

Hi all,
I just ordered a set of these from Jay today and I am in the Akron ohio area. So if anyone is interested in seeing these in person or wants to follow me when i build me axel, just let me know.

i have been reading these fourms for years but just joined a few weeks ago to be able to message you guys to get some parts.

Dan
65 Skylark
63 Buick Riviera

[RoadRace Elco]

Thanks!



What flange ends do you run on your 12 bolt?


The factory flanges 4 but top are narrow bottom wider

[atomicjoe23]

So is the bolt-on version for the New/Big Ford ends available now???

If so. . .pricing on a complete bolt-on kit???

Also, you mentioned the weld-on kit is butt welded. . .what diameter axle tube are these set-up for?

[MillerBuilt]

The factory flanges 4 but top are narrow bottom wider

Sorry but you would only be a candidate for the weld-on kit. Cut your current ends off, and weld on the new C6 ends.



So is the bolt-on version for the New/Big Ford ends available now???

If so. . .pricing on a complete bolt-on kit???

Also, you mentioned the weld-on kit is butt welded. . .what diameter axle tube are these set-up for?

Yes, I do have a few sets of bolt-on kits available. A "complete bolt-on kit" is $1650 plus PayPal/Shipping.

Yes, the weld-on kit is butt welded, and will accommodate tube outside diameters 2-5/8" to 3-1/2". Pretty much anything...

PM me your phone# and Ill give you a call.

Thanks, Jay

[carbuff]

Jay,

I may be in the market for something just like this... I would be interested in the weld-on kit. You mentioned earlier in the thread that Strange was onboard to offer their housings with your flanges welded on. I presume that's not an option available on their site anywhere. Would the purchase take place directly through them, or the kit through you and then shipped to them? Trying to determine the logistics. :)

Thanx...

[MillerBuilt]

Jay,

I may be in the market for something just like this... I would be interested in the weld-on kit. You mentioned earlier in the thread that Strange was onboard to offer their housings with your flanges welded on. I presume that's not an option available on their site anywhere. Would the purchase take place directly through them, or the kit through you and then shipped to them? Trying to determine the logistics. :)

Thanx...

Yes, you would still purchase the kit from me and I would ship the kit to STRANGE along with fixture blocks for correct alignment. I had spoke with STRANGE in detail about the kit and they stated they would be able to weld on the C6 steel flanges since they install exactly the same way as any other flange end.
The only variable would be what specific suspension/brackets you're requiring. They mentioned that they do not install ALL types so it would be at their discretion once that info was supplied. So if you call them about housing info, also supply them with your suspension bracket needs to determine if you are a candidate. I have been quoted by STRANGE $150 to weld on the C6 flanges....

When you call STRANGE remember you are speaking with any one of the many sales staff and most likely will be clueless of my set-up, so don't be surprised if you are getting deer in the headlight look through the phone. Just get the housing/bracket quote, add the $150 for flange install and when ready I will assist with getting the correct order placed. I am currently helping another gentleman out with his axle order since he is getting that same deer in the headlight look :D

Let me know if you have any other questions and I will do my best to answer.

Jay

[atomicjoe23]

Yes, I do have a few sets of bolt-on kits available. A "complete bolt-on kit" is $1650 plus PayPal/Shipping.

Yes, the weld-on kit is butt welded, and will accommodate tube outside diameters 2-5/8" to 3-1/2". Pretty much anything...

PM me your phone# and Ill give you a call.

Thanks, Jay

Thanks Jay. . .I'll get a hold of you soon. I need to source my rear end. . .this kinda changes my build plan a little, but I hadn't laid any money out on anything for the rear end yet, and I hadn't started designing my rear suspension yet either so I'm pretty golden it sounds like.

Thanks!!!

[atomicjoe23]

Jay, would you happen to have any photos of the bolt-on kits?

What does the complete kit include?

Also, how much width (if any) does the kit add to your WMS-to-WMS width? I'm guessing it doesn't and bolts to the back of the flanges, but since I haven't seen photos I'm not 100% positive and just want to make sure before I order a rear end.

Thanks!!!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Jay, would you happen to have any photos of the bolt-on kits?

What does the complete kit include?

Also, how much width (if any) does the kit add to your WMS-to-WMS width? I'm guessing it doesn't and bolts to the back of the flanges, but since I haven't seen photos I'm not 100% positive and just want to make sure before I order a rear end.

Thanks!!!

.250in per side according to
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=49657

[MillerBuilt]

Jay, would you happen to have any photos of the bolt-on kits?

What does the complete kit include?

Also, how much width (if any) does the kit add to your WMS-to-WMS width? I'm guessing it doesn't and bolts to the back of the flanges, but since I haven't seen photos I'm not 100% positive and just want to make sure before I order a rear end.

Thanks!!!

Hi Joe,

You probably have utilized the link that Vince supplied so please visit that link to see pics (just posted a few new ones as well). The complete kit includes everything you will need except; Rotors, Calipers, e-brake cables & Axles.
Everything else that you would need is included; C6 Flanges, C7 SKF Hub Units, complete C6 E-brake setup, all hardware, axle seals.

Let me know if there is anything else.

Thank you,
Jay

.250in per side according to
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=49657

Vince, thank you for helping out as usual :thumbsup:

[atomicjoe23]

Thanks Jay & Vince. . .I didn't realize there was a thread just for the bolt-on kit; I found this thread by following a link from another thread. . .

[MillerBuilt]

Another Complete C6/7 Weld-on Kit headed out to Northern CA. This customer will be utilizing the free fixture pieces that I loan out to install his own flange ends correctly. :thumbsup:

Will now be running another batch. Thanks to you that have purchased, AND to you that are soon to purchase!

[72Greencamaro]

I am really interested in this, can the axles be done in 30 spline for my eaton locker?

[MillerBuilt]

I am really interested in this, can the axles be done in 30 spline for my eaton locker?

Yes sir.

[tor1965]

This kit use the corvette hub and bearings. I wonder how much weight this bearing/ hub can withstand, with corvette wheel offset.
I am looking for a setup for a street car, but it is a lot heavier then the Corvette.
So how much axel weight is it safe to run on this axel / hub combination?

[MillerBuilt]

This kit use the corvette hub and bearings. I wonder how much weight this bearing/ hub can withstand, with corvette wheel offset.
I am looking for a setup for a street car, but it is a lot heavier then the Corvette.
So how much axel weight is it safe to run on this axel / hub combination?

Thank you for your interest and flattered to get your 1st post!

I have no way of answering this with any kind of scientific data, but what I can tell you, is a very talented group of current, and ex GM engineers have these same hub units installed on cars (front & back) such as a 69 Dodge Charger that is fully loaded with late model hemi, whipple super charger, auto trans, roll cage, full interior, big wheels/tires/brakes, etc..

Also 70 Chevelle, 1st gen Camaros, and all with similar weight adding components. So if these guys are confident outfitting these heavy weight cars that are purpose built to be tracked, I feel comfortable giving the same endorsement on similar weighted cars.


So what is the car you are wanting to run this on, and how much does it weigh?

[tor1965]

My car is a 1995 Chevrolet caprice / impala clone with ls3 and supercharger.
I have kor3 corvette zo6 brakes up front and still have the stock rear brakes.
The rear end is 8.5 C-clip with the abs sensor on the pinion, and the worst 3 channel abs system ever made.
What I want is a system that eliminates the C-clip, and has the provision for ABS sensors on both wheels. I live in Norway and I would need some kind of documentation to prove that the setup can hold the vehicle weight. Usually when I change a rear end to a different type I use the weight spec from the donor vehicle to prove that the axle is strong enough. With the corvette parts I think this could be a problem.
The total weight on the rear end of the car is 1213kg or 2674lb

Regards
Tor

[MillerBuilt]

My car is a 1995 Chevrolet caprice / impala clone with ls3 and supercharger.
I have kor3 corvette zo6 brakes up front and still have the stock rear brakes.
The rear end is 8.5 C-clip with the abs sensor on the pinion, and the worst 3 channel abs system ever made.
What I want is a system that eliminates the C-clip, and has the provision for ABS sensors on both wheels. I live in Norway and I would need some kind of documentation to prove that the setup can hold the vehicle weight. Usually when I change a rear end to a different type I use the weight spec from the donor vehicle to prove that the axle is strong enough. With the corvette parts I think this could be a problem.
The total weight on the rear end of the car is 1213kg or 2674lb

Regards
Tor

You were not kidding when you said heavy!
I am not certain, and not sure how adaptable your ABS system is, but you may be able to suffice load ratings by running Camaro/Cadillac CTS-V Hub part#'s. I am almost positive they are identical dimensions as Vette but easy to prove ratings on these 4000+lb cars. I am not saying to even rule out the C6/7 hub part #'s either as if you could find specifications on them they are probably even rated for your weight loads??? I did a quick search and did not find anything but perhaps someone on this site can help if they know.

Jay

[MillerBuilt]

Just in case anyone is wondering,,,, I will have sets ready to ship by mid next week! (just waiting for Hub Spacers to come back from anodize shop)

So with that said, a few changes.

The Billet 6061 Hub Spacers will now come standard with hard black anodize.

HyTuf Gun-drilled axles offered at $825 pair

HyTuf NON Gun-drilled axles now offered at $575 pair

*axles have an approx. 3 week lead time



Hello!

I have recently designed a component for my personal use/car, and wanted to see if there is any interest from others for this product. At this point, and mainly due to time involved to perfect and small runs, I am basically selling at what it costs to make in hopes of getting some feed back/exposure.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/PIC-3_zps21be8e5b.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/PIC-3_zps21be8e5b.jpg.html)

This design enables you to take full advantage of C5/6/7 Corvette technology on your existing or new rear housing. This kit will install onto nearly ALL rear-end housings! Some of the benefits of this system are:



Full Floater type benefits - (eliminate Piston knock-back & Torsional axle load)
Utilizes ALL OEM & Aftermarket brake kits made for C5/6 Corvettes
Utilizes the OEM C5/6 Corvette E-Brake assembly
Utilizes the OEM C6/7 Corvette Bearing/Hub Assembly
Utilizes the OEM C5/6 Corvette Fasteners
ABS compatible
Optional "self installation" through the use of available/for loan fixturing (see below)




"The Basic Kit" I am offering is made up of (6) pieces total of which I have listed below. It will allow you to run the ever so popular, “over the counter” C6/7 Corvette Hubs, C5/6 E-Brake, Calipers & Rotors (including ALL aftermarket brake kits designed for C5/6). The cool thing is you can purchase these “over the counter” parts as you can afford as kind of a self-finance plan OR you can buy everything from me in what I call my "Complete Kit".

"The Basic Kit" - $900.00 Plus Shipping/PayPal

(2) Billet Steel weld on flanges
(2) Billet aluminum hub spacers
(2) Axle seals


Below Pic is "The Basic Kit"....
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/7e14fc1f-5a22-45e0-81f2-b543b8910614_zps4d6b1e05.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/7e14fc1f-5a22-45e0-81f2-b543b8910614_zps4d6b1e05.jpg.html)



"The Complete Kit" I am offering will come with all of the "Basic Kit" items listed above, but will also include items listed below in Green.

(2) C7 SKF 33 spline Hub/Bearing Packs (robust like the 2013 ZR1 hub)
(2) Complete Parking/Emergency Brake Assemblies.
(2) Parking/Emergency Brake Cable Brackets
(6) Hub to Upright Bolts
(4) Parking/Emergency Brake Cable Bracket Bolts
(4) Caliper Mounting Bolts
(4) Caliper Mounting Bolt Washers
(2) Axle Nuts


"The Complete Kit" - $1650.00 Plus Shipping/PayPal

Below pic is "The Complete Kit"....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3012_zps17294fad.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3012_zps17294fad.jpg.html)



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Axles are the ONLY aftermarket part needed to run and can be purchased through me @Strange Engineering for $825 a pair for the Gun-drilled & at $575 a pair for the NON Gun-drilled. (yes, not cheap but both variants are machined from their Hy-Tuf material…) The hub side spline count will be 33 to accommodate the C6/7 Hub , and the carrier end can be 30/31/33/35.

*The (2) weld on Steel Flange Ends included in the kit will need to be fixture welded to your housings axle tubes. I can do this for you (for a fee), OR I can loan (with $450 fully refundable deposit), the correct alignment/fixturing bushings (to include 3rd Member pucks & C6 Flange alignment blocks) and you will only need to use your 3rd member case & purchase a 1-1/2” diameter by 60” long alignment bar through Mittler Brothers unless maybe you know of a local source that already has a 1-1/2" alignment bar,,,,,, but it needs to be straight! The bar through Mittler Brothers is $130 plus shipping. http://www.mittlerbros.com/turned-ground-polished-1-1-2-dia-shaft.html (or as I have been informed, SUMMIT RACING has these bars by Mittler Brothers that they ship for FREE!)

Here are a few pics of the fixture pieces I will loan you. (These are also for sale if you wish to purchase at $425.00 which includes shipping/PayPal)


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3033_zps0795c525.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3033_zps0795c525.jpg.html)

Machined flat spot to help assist with "Caliper Clocking" when welding on the Flange End


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3038_zpsab8856cc.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3038_zpsab8856cc.jpg.html)


Please feel free to ask questions and I will do the best I can in answering.


Pic with C7 Hub (Hub NOT included in "Basic Kit")
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_2941_zps9f86b64b.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_2941_zps9f86b64b.jpg.html)


Pic with C7 Hub (Hub NOT included in "Basic Kit")
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_2945_zps28fa1a3a.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_2945_zps28fa1a3a.jpg.html)


Pic with C7 Hub & C6 ZO6 Caliper (Hub not included in "Basic Kit" & Caliper NOT included in either "Basic or Complete")
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_2957_zps4a1a67a8.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_2957_zps4a1a67a8.jpg.html)


Pic with C7 Hub & C6 ZO6 Caliper (Hub not included in "Basic Kit" & Caliper NOT included in either "Basic or Complete")
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_2955_zps7274348f.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_2955_zps7274348f.jpg.html)

Please note alignment dowels. A feature to eliminate any chance of shifting between weld on flange and spacer under extreme situations. Overkill? Maybe :)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3068_zpsadb7e568.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3068_zpsadb7e568.jpg.html)

Not a huge deal, but want it known that this setup will utilize OEM Hub fasteners.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_2947_zps14c81eb5.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_2947_zps14c81eb5.jpg.html)


Again, just a pic to show the OEM caliper bolts...
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_2956_zpse814066f.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_2956_zpse814066f.jpg.html)

More random pics of set-up...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3047_zps3fc33012.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3047_zps3fc33012.jpg.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_3049_zps8e7c625e.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_3049_zps8e7c625e.jpg.html)


Please do not hesitate to ask questions. Thanks for considering!

[raustinss]

I know it's in here somewhere....what does it add to the track width.?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I know it's in here somewhere....what does it add to the track width.?

being the weld on version you adjust the housing tubes.

the bolt on version adds .250 to each side.

[raustinss]

Sorry was a little tired when I wrote that,I'm referring to the welded on version. I've got a stock 12 bolt

[MillerBuilt]

This style is NO LONGER stocked. Available by special order only.


Price now includes hard black anodize on the billet hub spacers.
For "Basic Kits" sold in the month of October I will include the pictured bearing unit mounting hardware.

Thanks for looking!

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_0376_zpsgiq4rnad.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_0376_zpsgiq4rnad.jpg.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_0377_zpsj7ehigwu.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_0377_zpsj7ehigwu.jpg.html)

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http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/IMG_0385_zpsyuqscgyx.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/IMG_0385_zpsyuqscgyx.jpg.html)

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[ma73z]

Any basic kits available?

[MillerBuilt]

Any basic kits available?

Yes, simply PM me your email, full name, shipping address, phone number, and I will send you a PayPal request. Once payment is received your kit will be in the mail the following day!

Thank you for your interest.

Jay

[Mickav6]

i assume it work with the 10 bolt?

[MillerBuilt]

i assume it work with the 10 bolt?

Yes, this set-up can be installed onto your 10 bolt, the set-up does not discriminate :)
You will not have the option of Gun-drilled axles due to your carrier spline/axle diameter size, but no big deal there. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,

Jay

[ma73z]

Yes, simply PM me your email, full name, shipping address, phone number, and I will send you a PayPal request. Once payment is received your kit will be in the mail the following day!

Thank you for your interest.

Jay

PM sent, thanks.

[mdes0]

Hey Jay. your mailbox is full so can't send you a PM. Had a question about the weld on ends before I put in an order.
Thanks,
Matt

[MillerBuilt]

Hey Jay. your mailbox is full so can't send you a PM. Had a question about the weld on ends before I put in an order.
Thanks,
Matt

Hi Matt,

Cleared space in my mailbox, I sent you a PM as well.

Thanks, Jay

[MillerBuilt]

The description/picture below reflects the all new Weld-On kit.
The original style in my previous posts will still be available, but will be available by special order only, and will be price quoted at time of order.


C-Series: Weld-On “Deluxe Kit”

Advantages:

• Weld-On To Your New or Existing Housing
• Front Or Rear Caliper / E-Brake Cable Mounting Positions
• Utilizes The Robust, Zero Maintenance C6 ZR1 / C7 ZO6 Corvette Hub Assembly
• Utilizes ALL OEM Brake Kits Designed For C5/6 Corvettes
• Utilizes ALL aftermarket Brake Kits Designed For C5/6 Corvettes
• Utilizes Your Existing BAER or WILWOOD Caliper & Rotor (some restrictions apply)
• Utilizes C5/6 Corvette OEM E-Brake Assembly
• ABS / Traction Control Compatible
• Super Compact Design Compared to Traditional Full Floaters
• Advantages Of A Traditional Full Floater Without The Maintenance
• Replacement Parts Available At Local GM Dealer Or Local Parts House
• Wheel & Tire remains intact should an axle ever snap
• Eliminates Piston Knockback!

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/jaymillerone/image001_zpsxf5wscb0.png (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/jaymillerone/media/image001_zpsxf5wscb0.png.html)

Deluxe Kit Includes:

• (2) Billet Steel, C-Series, Hybrid Floater Ends
• (2) C5/6 Billet Aluminum Caliper Brackets
• (2) C7 Corvette, SKF 33 Spline Hub Assemblies
• (2) C6 Corvette Complete E-brake Assemblies
• (2) C6 Corvette Parking/E-brake Cable Brackets
• (1) Install Kit - includes all hardware & axle seals

________________________________________
STARTING AT - $1,598.00

Note: The success/longevity of this system is based on the correct fixture tools & the use of.