"RAMPAGE" - 2nd Gen Camaro by Roadster Shop

[RS-Chris]

Well, this thread is well overdue!

We had a pretty hard time keeping this one under wraps for so long!

This was a labor of love for many of us here at the shop. With many of our builds previously circling around the show car, street machine, pro-tour type builds, this car would be a complete departure from what we had done before. It would also serve as a platform to apply new methods of 'building', incorporating new technologies and methodologies into what we could apply to other areas of our builds.

The brief was really to create an evolution of the pro-touring methodology, bridging the gap between street car and full blown race car. A 'perfect storm' of Roadster Shop design, detail and engineering and an open love letter to the spectacle and rawness of motor sports, racing, muscle cars and the pursuit of speed.

While some of you are aware of how the car ended up, we should probably start from the beginning...

The perfect candidate:

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[Z06Joe]

Don't leave us hang'n!!!!!!

[1transam]

Moar moar moar!!!:thankyou:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

let him go.....I gotta get some work done today.

Take your time Chris. :bump:

[Sonar Chief]

There is more pixs on their website ... NOT ENOUGH THOU!!!

[RS-Chris]

Don't leave us hang'n!!!!!!

Moar moar moar!!!:thankyou:

let him go.....I gotta get some work done today.

Take your time Chris. :bump:

There is more pixs on their website ... NOT ENOUGH THOU!!!

No dessert if you dont finish your vegetables. :stirthepot:

[RS-Chris]

Prepping the shell.

***Those of a 'sensitive nature', ignore the next sentence***

This body was amazingly solid. Probably one of the cleanest we have had.

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[Sieg]

At SEMA I said more than once that Rampage was one car I really wanted to see with the bodywork off...........please carry on. :thumbsup:

[grendel]

IN for the win.

[mach1stang]

That's it?!?!? Wheres the rest of the pics!?!?!

[Bowtieracing]

Cant wait to see more, please keep it as detailed as possible. Wildest camaro i have ever seen.

[RS-Chris]

With the shell being prepped, we started to dig into what we really wanted the car to look like.

Wide. Definitely wide. And low. Did I mention wide?
This was the first loose sketch of the 'feel' of the car. 2nd one at the bottom, more of an exploration as to how different a direction we were heading form the stock shell.

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Shell up on the table and the beginnings for the chassis layout and construction.

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Looks somewhat 'normal' with this setup. We don't want normal...

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Did I say wide?

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[streetbird]

You will have to put a wide load sign too roll on the street

[preston]

Its just started and I am already in love with this thread. Yes, I actually want to marry it. Spare us no details of the build please. (And what is the full track width anyway ? 78" ?)

[waynieZ]

I can't wait to see more.

[DBasher]

Is this a customer (GoPro) car or a design exercise for the shop? Either way I love it and can't wait to watch it come together!

Dan

[Rick D]

Oh yeah, already loving it!! But you knew that already :D

[imsa fiero]

Lets see the front suspension and the Penske shocks

[GEN_X]

This had to be a great excersise in your ability to trust your design. I cant imagine saying "well this is one of the best shells we have ever had. Now lets cut it up and make it really wide" Great job guys!!

[srh3trinity]

Is this a customer (GoPro) car or a design exercise for the shop? Either way I love it and can't wait to watch it come together!

Dan
I don't want to ruin this for you, but this car was debuted at SEMA. Now they are pulling the curtain back to see what went into the build.

[DBasher]

I don't want to ruin this for you, but this car was debuted at SEMA. Now they are pulling the curtain back to see what went into the build.

Maybe I should have said "was" instead of "is". I've seen the finished product and am looking forward to the build pictures and details as they lay it out.

:thumbsup:

[RS-Chris]

Its just started and I am already in love with this thread. Yes, I actually want to marry it. Spare us no details of the build please. (And what is the full track width anyway ? 78" ?)

79" outside of tire to outside of tire. (did I mention it was wide?)

Is this a customer (GoPro) car or a design exercise for the shop? Either way I love it and can't wait to watch it come together!

Dan

It was actually a project we started independently as a shop project. In the fairly early stages, one of our customers we have built for before was talking about wanting a more hardcore, track based project that was still streetable. Something with a good level of detail and uniqueness, but not so precious or something he would panic about if he got a rock chip.

This had to be a great excersise in your ability to trust your design. I cant imagine saying "well this is one of the best shells we have ever had. Now lets cut it up and make it really wide" Great job guys!!


Well put. This was a pretty big 'leap of faith' from what we thought would be an awesome idea to the reality of making it. There isn't exactly a ton of reference when you build a GT/DTM/ALMS style 2nd Gen custom widebody race car! It was pretty much when we had the tire up next to the body sticking way out past the quarters we knew we were onto something.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

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Well put. This was a pretty big 'leap of faith' from what we thought would be an awesome idea to the reality of making it. There isn't exactly a ton of reference when you build a GT/DTM/ALMS style 2nd Gen custom widebody race car! It was pretty much when we had the tire up next to the body sticking way out past the quarters we knew we were onto something.

And who did the rendering and concept design?

[RS-Chris]

...and time for some more pics:

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Building the cage:

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It was around this point we decided on matching the cantilever rear suspension style with an inboard cantilever on the front also.

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

awesome sauce, but I think you may have missed a couple steps.:D

[RS-Chris]

awesome sauce, but I think you may have missed a couple steps.:D

You got me.
(even I was getting excited and I know how it ends!)

A few more of the chassis construction.

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Utilizing our FAST TRACK IRS rear

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[mitch_04]

How do you build those frame rails and crossmembers? Are they 4 pieces welded together or solid tubing mandrel bent or...?

[Musclerodz]

awesome sauce, but I think you may have missed a couple steps.:D

have you got that stuck in your head too?:bang:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

haaaa haaaa your welcome....BTW pass it on to someone you love.

[WSSix]

Thanks for giving us the behind the scenes on this car, Chris. Keep the pictures coming. You guys did a phenomenal job.

[RS-Chris]

** NSFW***

The following images contain graphic suspension, welding, chassis and machining content. Viewer discretion is advised.

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[RS-Chris]

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[camcojb]

That car was so cool I had to have it in the intro to my Sema coverage article. :thumbsup:

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[Musclerodz]

I wish i could have seen in it person. Everytime i walked by the GoPro booth the placed was packed.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

looking good......can't wait to see some track time feedback.

1:1 ratio on the cantilevers?

[RS-Chris]

looking good......can't wait to see some track time feedback.

1:1 ratio on the cantilevers?

Us too!

We will be starting with 1:1 on the cantilevers and dialing in the correct ratios as we tune the car.

[Sieg]

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Oh oh.........:censored:

......be right back, I gotta go get a towel.

[tones2SS]

Top notch stuff.
Awesome.

[Al Moreno]

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Oh oh.........:censored:

......be right back, I gotta go get a towel.

Too funny!!!

Love this car :king:

[MHORTON79]

Oh my God oh my God oh my God. That pic with all 4 wheels on looks like the Batman Tumbler.

[andrewb70]

With a rear view like that this project should be called Kim Kardashian. Nice work!

Andrew

[rstone]

Why would you disgrace this thread and this car by bringing up that name?

[RS-Chris]

With the physical wheel, ride height and track width heading in the right direction and really falling where we wanted them to, we could pretty much finalize the concept as we approached the aesthetic part of the build. There were many tweaks and revisions along the way, but it was around this point we established the final 'look' for the car.

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On the ground for the first time!

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This pic truly gives an idea of how low the roofline now is.

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Building the floors and trans tunnel

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Perhaps the narrowest 'tubs' we have ever made!

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Firewall and smoothed windshield cowl:

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[mitch_04]

Why did you choose to go with a screwed on fender flare vs welding?

Looks very aggressive, just curious.

[omiotek]

My opinion is because they wanted something easily removable and fixable if you hit something.... Plus the rivit look is oh so "because race car"

Definately glad you guys are letting us see the work

[Vince@Meanstreets]

As my old boss Mike Marsh use to always tell me "welds suck, rivets are lighter" LOL

[WSSix]

Chris is this car slotted to compete in any exhibitions or events?

[RS-Chris]

Why did you choose to go with a screwed on fender flare vs welding?

Looks very aggressive, just curious.

My opinion is because they wanted something easily removable and fixable if you hit something.... Plus the rivit look is oh so "because race car"

Definately glad you guys are letting us see the work

Exactly: not that anyone is planning on dinging the car, but the risk is there. Making the flares in sheetmetal would be initially possible, but any damage would be very costly having to either repair or replace the sheetmetal piece. With the carbon 'bolt-on' pieces, if one gets damaged, we have the all the molds to make them exactly the same forever.

(and it looks cool)

[RS-Chris]

Chris is this car slotted to compete in any exhibitions or events?

Not yet. The SEMA debut was really the first reveal of the car in 'built' form. We are planning a few months of performance setup, shakedown, suspension tuning track laps etc to make sure it is fully dialed in and bombproof.

[glassman]

Can you guys/GOPro loan it to Ken Block for his next Gymkhana? haha, it would look sick doing that though....

[waynieZ]

It looks so rugged, like it's saying don't **** ! with me

[zz430droptop67rs]

The fab work on all of your cars is the best in the industry!

Mind blowing workmanship.

[preston]

So you guys have any idea what the final bare chassis with roll cage weighed ? I know there is always a question of what was included in the weight but just curious if you knew.

Also what does the completed car weigh ?

[vstol]

And the rest of the story is....

[Build-It-Break-it]

They should do a TV show on you guys. I guarantee it would blow all the other car shows out of the water. Just seeing the process that goes into each build would be amazing.

[tjbruning]

Awesome job, one of my favorites from SEMA.


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[RS-Chris]

So you guys have any idea what the final bare chassis with roll cage weighed ? I know there is always a question of what was included in the weight but just curious if you knew.

Also what does the completed car weigh ?

We didn't get a chance to weigh the chassis and cage. The whole car weighed in at 3100lbs dry.

They should do a TV show on you guys. I guarantee it would blow all the other car shows out of the water. Just seeing the process that goes into each build would be amazing.

We get more done with no cameras around! Unfortunately you touched on the reason for lack of decent car shows out there. 'The Process' doesn't make for good network ratings. Made up drama, deadlines and bad acting seem to make up what passes for car shows these days. We'd rather just build cars...

[RS-Chris]

Time for some updates!

With the foundation of the car coming together we could turn our attention to creating the carbon pieces we needed to give this car the shape and look we wanted.

Figuring out how to do this was a process in itself. With foam being the fastest to build shape and carve, we set about creating the 'jig' to both hold the foam we poured and establish guides and limits for where we could cut and still allow clearance for the suspension articulation. In essence, it had to look as good as it worked.

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[markss28]

Wow, absolutely amazing!
I think I pissed myself

[RS-Chris]

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As you can see on the rear and then front, as we got the foam close to the shapes we wanted, we added a skim of body filler to refine the surface a little. Still fairly crude at this step, it allowed us to see and feel the shape better and start adding in some of the finer details like edges and creases.

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Creating the nose corners and front lower fender allowed us to begin on the mock up of the front splitter.

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[vstol]

what type of foam do you use, thanks

[RS-Chris]

what type of foam do you use, thanks

It's a one-to-one expanding polyurethane foam (Similar to Tap X-30).

[pahela2]

That thing is just plain sick . One of the best looking cars at Sema for sure

[vstol]

It's a one-to-one expanding polyurethane foam (Similar to Tap X-30).

Thanks

[Flash68]

Good God! :beavis:

[Rick D]

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[Radlark]

DAMN!!!!!

AWESOME WORK as always!!!!!

[T_Raven]

Impressive stuff

[MHORTON79]

Just plain bad ass.

[Ppd1979]

Amazing work

[Sieg]

Thanks for taking the time to share the details with us Chris, very impressive and educational. :thumbsup:

[RDuke]

Did you end up using the foam as a plug to re-lay a full carbon panel or did it become final as shown?



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[Chevrolaine]

Did you end up using the foam as a plug to re-lay a full carbon panel or did it become final as shown?

From a few pages back.
Exactly: not that anyone is planning on dinging the car, but the risk is there. Making the flares in sheetmetal would be initially possible, but any damage would be very costly having to either repair or replace the sheetmetal piece. With the carbon 'bolt-on' pieces, if one gets damaged, we have the all the molds to make them exactly the same forever.

[RS-Chris]

Did you end up using the foam as a plug to re-lay a full carbon panel or did it become final as shown?

The pieces you see being formed are essentially the plugs. Usually, molds would be pulled from these pieces. In this case, we went a little further as you will see soon!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

The pieces you see being formed are the plugs. Molds will be pulled from these pieces.

...which is why they have to be built with a sturdy material.

The hardest part is to keep both sides the same. Right?

[GEN_X]

This thing is so cool. Are you guys planning on making a cool artistic video of the car? Showcasing all the details

something like;
http://vimeo.com/79706611
but with more fitting music. We have got to see videos of this thing rolling.

[GEN_X]

This thing is so cool. Are you guys planning on making a cool artistic video of the car? Showcasing all the details

something like;
http://vimeo.com/79706611
but with more fitting music. We have got to see videos of this thing rolling.

[Rick D]

The pieces you see being formed are essentially the plugs. Usually, molds would be pulled from these pieces. In this case, we went a little further as you will see soon!

Ok come on we're waiting!! :flashie:

[J-Rod&Custom]

I absolutely love this build!!!

Can't wait to see it on a track!

[kimosabi]

I wanna see this car at Laguna Seca! Or better yet, Nurburgring!!

[RS-Chris]

Time for some weekend updates!

Next up, the tail section...

Small cut...

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The reason being, we wanted the feel of the 2nd gen tailpanel, but way more clean and crisp. A little F40 inspiration thrown in with the twin lights and mesh backing. The bumper also would end up being integrated so at this stage, it was just easier to lop the whole panel off and start it the way we wanted.

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Finishing out the underside where the rear diffuser will sit.

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Gas tank mount

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[RS-Chris]

Mock up of the form for the rear diffuser/air straightener. As with the other pieces, will get turned into carbon.

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Beginnings of the spoiler uprights. (we went through about 50 versions of this shape before settling on the one we liked...)

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Cut in steel on the plasma for now. These will eventually get waterjet cut in aluminum with machined detail.

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Starting to look a little racy...

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

thoroughly enjoying this build.

[tones2SS]

That rear is outrageous!
Awesome stuff.

[waynieZ]

Wow !

[RS-Chris]

With the shapes dialed in, we needed to digitize the surfaces to both make the slight changes and additions we wanted and so that we were able to mirror the flares for the passenger side.

The guys from Exact Metrology (http://www.exactmetrology.com/) were happy to assist in the process. Using both the Romer arm and Surphaser, they were able to capture the detail and parts of the vehicle we would need for the next steps.

Science!

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At this point, the file they captured was then used as a base for us to generate the final surfaces. Wile forming everything by hand and scanning to 3D is a great start, the ability to form a 'clean' surface model in 3D would allow for a perfectly smooth surface. It would also afford us the option to break each surface into parts and add all the structure needed for it to become a suitable plug for a mold to be made. It was also way more efficient to add details at this time in the computer like the fastener recesses and vents.

Original scanned file:

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'clean' surface/plug file:

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[RS-Chris]

With the 3d work complete, the files were sent off to be machined (due to the size we couldn't do it here)...more on that later!

The car could then be removed from the table and the fab work could continue. Since we were now able to get under the car, we set about on the 180 degree headers and fabbing up the stainless exhaust!!

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

ok, now your just showin off.

[Jr]

Can we get a video of this beast running?

[preston]

Yesh those 3d scanner things are great - I got one from Harbor Freight recently that I've been using. :gitrdun:


Where did the CF nose come from ?
who does your custom CF work ?

Can't help thinking I'd rather have the engine 2" lower than kick ass 180 degree headers though.

Really appreciate you guys sharing the details. So beautiful and so much to learn from.

[tones2SS]

ok, now your just showin off.

^^What Vince said. lol
Awesome stuff.

[KHShapiro]

What size tires are those?

[Winmon]

The fab work on all of your cars is the best in the industry!

Mind blowing workmanship.

For sure! :king:

[FETorino]

Each build more impressive than the last.:hairpullout:



Can't help thinking I'd rather have the engine 2" lower than kick ass 180 degree headers though.



With what looks like a Dailey billet dry sump pan the bellhousing is probably 2" lower than the bottom of the pan so you end up with room under the motor even with it as low as possible. Can't help but notice that in the pictures.:D

[Rick D]

Ok really??? This is getting out of hand :twak: there needs to be a disclaimer before entering this thread from now on!! :thankyou:

[preston]

Originally Posted by preston View Post

Can't help thinking I'd rather have the engine 2" lower than kick ass 180 degree headers though.
With what looks like a Dailey billet dry sump pan the bellhousing is probably 2" lower than the bottom of the pan so you end up with room under the motor even with it as low as possible. Can't help but notice that in the pictures.

yeah my bad, I thought about that later. I should know as I came to the same realization when I went dry sump, that the bellhousing is the limiter after the first 2" of oil pan get lopped off.

[AmKenpo1]

With the 3d work complete, the files were sent off to be machined (due to the size we couldn't do it here)...more on that later!

The car could then be removed from the table and the fab work could continue. Since we were now able to get under the car, we set about on the 180 degree headers and fabbing up the stainless exhaust!!

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I like that our Axle boxes com in handy. Love this build.
:thankyou:

Wil.

[FLYNAVY53]

wow....just wow

[glassman]

I just dont understand. That undercarriage is just off the charts. What i dont understand is 1/2 the stuff i see under there i've never seen before, i'm like "wtf is that?" and then, "ohhh, wow".

[zz430droptop67rs]

THE coolest machine I've ever seen.

That exhaust system is unbelievable.

[Sieg]

There's absolutely nothing I don't like about this build. You could throw an AMC Matador body on it and I'd still think it was cool!

A friend built a slant nosed Porsche in the early 90's with a 350 SBC in the back and he built a similar header system for it......still one of the coolest sounding SBC's I've ever heard.

:thumbsup:

[mitch_04]

I go into withdrawals when I don't get daily updates on this build... :hairpullout:

[RS-Chris]

Some more pics!

We elected to house a couple of coolers in the rear quarters for the rear end cooler and trans cooler. These would end up sitting behind the rear flares.

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The rear mesh pattern and light surrounds being cut:

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Rear firewall:

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Being a race car, it would be pretty critical to get air into the cabin for the driver. As such, a detail we knew we wanted from the start was the roof scoop: this feeds down through the roof to directional air vents.

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Exhaust tip bezel:
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[syborg tt]

You guys should consider a build book on this car.

[Graham08]

I would definitely buy a copy of that!

This build is way too cool! The Roadster Shop build threads are the primary reason I started lurking on this forum. You guys definitely knocked it out of the park on this one.

[RS-Chris]

Some under the hood action and the mock up of the intake ducting coming in from the front opening next to the main headlight.

Lots of 'packaging' to consider as there would be a large air box behind the radiator evacuating air through the hood. All has to fit between the cage downbars, next to the motor, ahead of the motor around the cantilevered suspension and all under the flat, non-cowl hood.

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Nothing like cutting into a nice fresh "only one available right now" carbon hood....

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[RS-Chris]

You guys should consider a build book on this car.

I would definitely buy a copy of that!

This build is way too cool! The Roadster Shop build threads are the primary reason I started lurking on this forum. You guys definitely knocked it out of the park on this one.

Thanks guys!

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[RS-Chris]

Building the intake airbox

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We decided to switch to the orange flex hose at this point for looks instead of the solid tube.

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Underside of the intake box has drop out provisions for the filters

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Since we were going for a more clean contemporary feel on the outside, we dispensed with the stock trim and made a clean insert piece to meet up to the new grille mesh

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[MeanMike]

From concept to fabrication to finished product, your stuff is flawless all the way through. I would pay money to spend a day with one of your sheetmetal fabricators.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Since we were going for a more clean contemporary feel on the outside, we dispensed with the stock trim and made a clean insert piece to meet up to the new grille mesh


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yaaaa might as well, since your in it right? :D

[tones2SS]

I can't even begin to comprehend the planning it takes to do BEFORE doing any of the actual building on your builds. Never mind the actual building of the car.
Amazing guys. Another home run!

[mitch_04]

Alright, I know you guys are experts at what you do. However, you guys still have to be nervous cutting into a hood like that...right?

[tom091074]

OUTSTANDING WORK!!!!! I love the headers or header. This car is amazing. :confused18:

[YAMATHUMP]

The exhaust system on this thing should be hanging as art somewhere. Unbelievable workmanship on the whole car. Thanks for the behind the scenes on this build!

[groovyjay]

Lost for words.... again! :thumbsup:

One thing I would have liked to see you guys do on this car is your interpretation of the classic 70's racing BBS wheels and even more so the brake cooling fans bolted on to them.

http://www.greenwoodcorvettes.com/Race%20cars/6/Pickett6chassisfrtleft.jpg

But then again, I saw how you made the wheels for this, your idea and execution is 100000000000 time better... :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I would definitely buy a copy of that!

This build is way too cool! The Roadster Shop build threads are the primary reason I started lurking on this forum. You guys definitely knocked it out of the park on this one.

take off your shoes and stay a while......

[RS-Chris]

I can't even begin to comprehend the planning it takes to do BEFORE doing any of the actual building on your builds. Never mind the actual building of the car.
Amazing guys. Another home run!

Alright, I know you guys are experts at what you do. However, you guys still have to be nervous cutting into a hood like that...right?

Ha ha! More of a 'measure three times cut once' deal.

The exhaust system on this thing should be hanging as art somewhere. Unbelievable workmanship on the whole car. Thanks for the behind the scenes on this build!

Lost for words.... again! :thumbsup:

One thing I would have liked to see you guys do on this car is your interpretation of the classic 70's racing BBS wheels and even more so the brake cooling fans bolted on to them.

http://www.greenwoodcorvettes.com/Race%20cars/6/Pickett6chassisfrtleft.jpg

But then again, I saw how you made the wheels for this, your idea and execution is 100000000000 time better... :thumbsup:

It crossed our minds 12 or 20 times...

Thanks for all the comments!! :thumbsup:

[RS-Chris]

Well, new year, new pics!

Aluminum inner door skins:

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From where we left off: at this point the car is in a position where it could be broken down and the shell sent out for powdercoat on all the interior and inner surface/structure.

Some CNC action on the E-brake. We engineered this to be an upright style lever for more aggressive use which can also be pinned in the downward position when not needed (road courses etc).

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Couldn't not have the vans waffle grip...

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Meanwhile in the paintshop - mold prep for the carbon pieces

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Hood

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[RS-Chris]

Some pics of the plugs for the body carbon pieces. These were all machined in wood.

Rockers:
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Fenders:

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And the first carbon parts!

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Mock up, because we could wait...

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Shell arrived back from powdercoating:

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[FLYNAVY53]

Just wow!! So I apologize if this is an inappropriate question, and please feel free to decline answering, but what does a build of this magnitude cost?....200K?....250K? Im just blown away by the R&D and build quality....hell that E-brake assembly is probably worth more than my '69 Corvette. Anyway, thanks very much for the update....I love seeing these NASA quality builds!

[preston]

So you built the parts out of metal or foam, then digitized them, cleaned them up in the software, then CNC machined them out of wood before hand laying up the molds and then the final parts ?

Ok that's a little more involved then I'm going to be able to replicate in my carport/shed.

[tones2SS]

Insane. Yeah,.....that E brake handle looks great. Old school Vans! :)
Looks like you guys are busy too. Lots of cars in the background.

[Dirtmod08]

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It's serious when the chassis is painted white. Very impressive.

[RS-Chris]

With the shell back from powdercoating, it could head toward the paint shop for the color scheme layout and paint:

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Thankfully the whole paint job only took about 2 minutes!....

2Ctc49fI_fk

[gerno]

Since you have all the plugs sitting around collecting dust just in case of an issue.....How long until a Rampage body kit will be available???

[RS-Chris]

Since you have all the plugs sitting around collecting dust just in case of an issue.....How long until a Rampage body kit will be available???

We have been asked this quite a lot.
With the vastly different than stock ride height, track width, suspension, chassis etc, it simply wouldn't work with a 'non-rampage' Camaro.

If you want us to build you one though...

[cpd004]

A few years back, I had some old vintage gas cans I threw up on Craigslist. Someone sent an email saying he would take them and came right out to pick them up. Turned out it was someone from the Roadster Shop. He said they were putting together a room to take pics of cars in using vintage stuff. Can't remember his name, but was a nice guy who took some pics of my 79 Trans Am while he was here. Probably talked for about an hour and a half about car stuff.

[Fitz78ta]

This is seriously absolutely retarded!

Wow, you guys have absolutely raised the bar again. The engineering of this thing is a work of art. My jaw just keeps hitting the floor on this build.

:bow: :bow: :bow: :waveflag:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

wow, i thought you guys wrapped the car. nice work.

[Che70velle]

wow, i thought you guys wrapped the car. nice work.

Me too Vince. Makes this impressive build, even more so.

[Payton King]

How has the powder coat hold up to heat on the floor and firewall? I thought that it melted around the 400 F mark and I have been in some cars, well Ron S. blue mustang, that melted my shoes.

Was wanting to do the same thing to the interior to the car I am building instead of paint.

[dontlifttoshift]

It cures at 400*, I would expect the powdercoating to be more durable than paint.

[syborg tt]

How has the powder coat hold up to heat on the floor and firewall? I thought that it melted around the 400 F mark and I have been in some cars, well Ron S. blue mustang, that melted my shoes.

Was wanting to do the same thing to the interior to the car I am building instead of paint.

Rad Rides - Blow fish is fully powder coated and doesn't seem to have an issue.

ps - I watched it go through the over

[omiotek]

Rad Rides - Blow fish is fully powder coated and doesn't seem to have an issue.

ps - I watched it go through the over

I agree here... .shouldn't have an issue

A lot of powder is baked is baked around 500 degrees roughly unless your using low temp powders.

[dave96dcm]

The powders that cure at 400 are usually good for sustained 300 degrees. A air gap and a thin piece of stainless would cure most of the exhaust heat issues.

[RS-Chris]

Time for a weekend update!

With the shell of the car out the booth, we can begin final assembly.

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Shifter handle:

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Delrin knob added

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Carbon!

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[RS-Chris]

Real race cars have curves...

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Tailpanel:

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Dropping in the motor:

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First install of the rear diffuser / air straightener

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

outstanding!!!!!!!:headspin:

[RS-Chris]

Lexan windshield (plus the 50-ish bolts that hold it in!)

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Nose piece insert and waterjet honeycomb grille:

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Trick billet mount we engineered and machined for the Motec display:

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Performance Friction brakes

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pads have a good amount of 'meat' :omg:

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Underside rear. Heat wrap on the exhaust and shield on the tank.

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And, of course, the windows do go up and down... :unibrow:

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[tones2SS]

Insane.
That is an insane build! Awesome job.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

And, of course, the windows do go up and down... :unibrow:

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nice!!!!

[Build-It-Break-it]

Geez who's funding this build tax payers!? This is an AMAZING build! So much engineering and thought put into this thing. Lexan windows that roll down! ? Really! ? :hairpullout:

[mitch_04]

Words cannot describe how much I enjoy watching this build...

[FlameBroiled]

Unbelievable Craftsmanship!!! It would be a dream, to work with a team like that!!

[RS-Chris]

Thanks everyone!

A few more assembly pics from the countdown to the SEMA debut:

(V.I.R. is the owner's home track where he will be using the car most. )

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Dash in place. Split the cap for easy removal to access the equipment behind.

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Layout of the remaining graphics and paint area.

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Its getting kinda packed in there:

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[RS-Chris]

Shot of the front shocks and catilever/pushrod

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Front splitter piece with final satin clear:

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Front assembly installed

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Louvered rear window first fit and with painted edge

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Some shameless self-promotion in the form of the windshield sunshade

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

You mean its not a Go Pro promotion car and will not be located at its head quarters in San Mateo? 5 miles from my shop? :(

[syborg tt]

Love the pics - now go back and fix the broken link

[RS-Chris]

You mean its not a Go Pro promotion car and will not be located at its head quarters in San Mateo? 5 miles from my shop? :(

Nope - sorry!
The car was always a customer's venture. GoPro offered us the booth spot for SEMA, (which required the logos) which was awesome, but now everyone knows it as the 'GoPro' Camaro...

[syborg tt]

When my Camaro grows up I want it to be just like this one.

[Beach Cruiser]

(V.I.R. is the owner's home track where he will be using the car most. )


Well there goes my hope of repeating as the fastest Vintage at the grassroots motorsports ultimate track car this summer! Can't wait to see it at the track!

[Jr]

Incredible craftsmanship!

[glassman]

Well there goes my hope of repeating as the fastest Vintage at the grassroots motorsports ultimate track car this summer! Can't wait to see it at the track!

You never know, maybe he/she cant drive....and this is just "newly found" money...who knows

Incredible craftsmanship!

yes, it sure is. Everytime i see this beast more and more stuff pops out. I spent 15 min or so at SEMA looking at it, and didn't even scratch the surface. Kinda like looking at an iceberg...there both cool and you only see 10% of it..

[Sixty9Commodore]

I love those Lotus rearlights, would like to have set of them in my project, but they are too expensive new and hard to find used set.

[driveability]

I must have died and gone to heaven !

[Interceptor5588]

Just when I thought I'd seen enough dam Camaros . . . great concept, execution and craftsmanship. Once again the Roadster Shop proves they are one of the top builders on the continent.

[bergers59]

were the windows/tracks based on a kit or completely custom?

[RS-Chris]

were the windows/tracks based on a kit or completely custom?

Custom made.

Thanks for all the comments! More pics soon :thumbsup:

[Sandbagger]

What are you guys bringing to the Speed Expo , in St . Charles ???



Rampage ??? please ...

[Sandbagger]

Roadster Shop was on the list ...Maybe they used last years ??

[dave96dcm]

Who's winshield? Did you use nut serts and button head screws? It's kinda hard to tell in the pics.

[Bakaruda]

That is one crazy cool car.:military:

[67goatman455]

Looks like Burns mufflers. so where's the sound clip?!?!

[Beach Cruiser]

I'll be at VIR in 20 days, really hoping to see the car on track there then

[GEN_X]

I am having withdrawals!! I need updates!!! :confused18:

[RS-Chris]

Who's winshield? Did you use nut serts and button head screws? It's kinda hard to tell in the pics.

Correct - countersunk allen heads and nutserts.

[RS-Chris]

I am having withdrawals!! I need updates!!! :confused18:

Can do.... here's a bunch of pics from the car being wrapped up before SEMA up until presently.

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That moment where you hope you measured right and it fits in the truck!

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Set up in the GoPro booth...

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Perhaps the highlight of the whole show for us - the car was selected at the Sony awards to be digitally featured in the Playstation Gran Turismo game!!

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We were also lucky enough to be awarded a GM design for 'Best G machine'!

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[RS-Chris]

A few interior shots:

Floormats and rollup windows?!

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We've been waiting patiently for the clever guys with laptops to finally give the car both the full programming for the Motec system throughout the car and the tune for the motor. Happy to say it showed signs of life late last week.

Soon....

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[Payton King]

Did you paint or powder coat the interior?

[RS-Chris]

Did you paint or powder coat the interior?

Powdercoat.

[tones2SS]

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Awesome build guys!
Congrats on the award and on being selected to have a car in the video game. Very cool.
What's up with that white Chevelle? :peepwall:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Hey, why doesn't that video work? :D

[Build-It-Break-it]

Pure craftsmanship. Congratulations to you and your crew on an awesome build.

[Evan Iroc-Z]

Hey, why doesn't that video work? :D

Quoting this for two reasons, I was wondering the same thing and why doesn't the video work.

Did I mention I would like to see a video?

[RS-Chris]

Quoting this for two reasons, I was wondering the same thing and why doesn't the video work.

Did I mention I would like to see a video?

You guys are cute.

Don't worry - as soon as I have something video worthy, I'll post it!

[waynieZ]

Awesome job Chris.

[ONEBAD78TA]

WOW...THATS THE MOST TRICKED OUT 2ND GEN I HAVE EVER SEEN :trophy-1302:

[Al Moreno]

Hey Chris any idea how much weight the air jacks added? I know the hardware is about 30 lbs but then you have to build the mount points. I'm guessing 45 lbs total. Does that sound right? The tech at James Lister and Son told me more like 50 to 60 lbs.

[RS-Chris]

I'll just leave this here....

DTRAtnwZOp0

[carbuff]

Um, nice. :) Sounds like:

:bigun2:

Any details on that exhaust? Or is it buried in this thread somewhere? :)

[tones2SS]

HA HAAAAA
That's awesome. Sounds like a nasty cam too.

[WSSix]

Awesome! So, dyno numbers?

[zbugger]

I'll just leave this here....

DTRAtnwZOp0

What? No flames? At least it sounds ok. Kinda...

[Vince@Meanstreets]

dayummmmm!!!!

Atleast im not the only one smiling

[Jr]

That is serious noise!

[Evan Iroc-Z]

Saw that on Facebook. I love it.

[DavidBoren]

I almost didn't even open this thread, thinking it's just another Camaro build... I am glad I checked this out.

This is absolutely NOT just another Camaro build.

Excellent craftsmanship and execution of design. You said this was to test new ideas and methods, and I really think you did a truly wonderful job tastefully combining classic muscle car and modern race car. It's beautiful.

Can you elaborate on the engine you used? I see individual throttle bodies, which is always cool. And I don't even know what is going on with the exhaust. I need to do research after reading your build thread.

What does a 180 exhaust system do, exactly? I will look it up on my own, but it would be cool to have an explanation as to why you went through the effort to make such amazing headers. Everything else in the car ha a function, so there has to be a benefit that this exhaust is expected to provide over conventional headers.

I love your suspension, as well. The ability to tune the motion ratio is impressive, and your set-up looks top notch. The picture of that front cantilever pivot mount is pure fabrication pornography.

Very cool car. Thanks for sharing.

[Panteracer]

Been running a 180 exhaust on my Pantera for about 8 years now
Another Pantera buddy got his last year and we just finished putting
the third one on my buddies car two weeks bacd... we took them thru
downtown the other night and stirred up quite a commotion setting off
car alarms etc.

Herb Adams put a 180 exhaust on his Trans Am car years back and
when they fired it up for Tech at the first race all the other teams
stopped what they were doing and the tech inspectors kinda backed up
One guy said it can't be legal

Does a crossover of two cylinders on each side to the other collector
Gives it better evacuation and the coolest sound ever as you can tell
by the Camaro video

Was common on Race Panteras and Gt40s

Bob

[LXSS350]

Hats off to all involved, that is one innovative well thought out design that just oozes creativity. The detail and craftsmanship is way beyond first class it is simply brilliant. Kludos to all who had a hand in this machine.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

can't wait to see it hoonin'

[89 RS]

That thing sounds wicked!

[Justin@EntropyRad]

What? No flames? At least it sounds ok. Kinda...

Kind of sounds like this:

https://youtu.be/S0UomvZpfoQ

[markstoys]

This build is why I joined this forum. So freakin' awesome!!!

I have a few questions about the exhaust:

1) Why the 180 degree headers?

As he owner of probably the only other FRONT engine car here (Panteras don't count), I am very curious why you would do something so unusual.

2) When are you going to post something so we can here what it REALLY sounds like--beyond a start up and a few revs?

I am dying to hear this thing moving under its own power. A lot of people hate how mine sounds, but you can't do anything different without upsetting at least half the people out there, right?

3) Can I PM you with a bunch of specific questions on the header design once I get a good listen?

Meanwhile, here are a few pics of mine:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g137/Markstoys/TE37%20project/IMG_2269_zps0910da72.jpg (http://s55.photobucket.com/user/Markstoys/media/TE37%20project/IMG_2269_zps0910da72.jpg.html)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g137/Markstoys/TE37%20project/IMG_2262_zps197605e7.jpg (http://s55.photobucket.com/user/Markstoys/media/TE37%20project/IMG_2262_zps197605e7.jpg.html)

Mark

[DavidBoren]

Mark, did you build your own 180° headers? Those are slick.

And yes, a lot of "American muscle" type guys are not going to like the sound of 180° headers. They get rid of that distinct American V8 sound. Anyone that gets all hot-and-bothered by a lumpy cam is going to think that a car with 180° headers sounds like a sewing machine.

On a different forum, someone posted a clip of the new Ford "voodoo" engine, with its flat-plane crankshaft... so it has an exhaust note like 180° headers. Anyways, there were people who said that it sounds "rice", because they are used to the uneven chugging of a typical American bent crank motor.

I prefer quiet exhaust, so my opinion is far from the average. I do like the scavenging effects of the 180° headers, but I can't get behind dry-sump oiling so packaging becomes a problem. I guess I am stuck with the rest of us mere mortals, and I will have to settle for some Tri-Y's.

[Panteracer]

Mark,
cool job on the headers...as far as 180 headers sounding
like sewing machines.... if on a Pantera you split them far apart
they really do not sound that great... I have tried to record
my Pantera with the 4" straight pipes and the Iphone shuts the
sound off.. I guess 109.7 db is too much.. 105 with my street pipes
and maybe 98 with my California Track pipes
We have three Panteras in my shop all with 180 headers and they
all have a distinct sound.. one is a Cleveland with a roller, the other
is a Stroked windsor with a roller cam and turn downs on the ends
and mine is a Stroked windsor with a solid lifter cam.. none of these
sound like sewing machines trust me.. like a V8 at idle

Look on this site "Members on the Scene" and go to the post Sieg did
6-2-2014 Labeled a few Autocross Launches.. my Pantera with 180s'
You should hear it with 4" straight pipes.. actually ordering conicals to
go down to 3" at the ends to try and put a little back pressure in them
before I go to TWS next month

Rampage really hits hard

Bob

[Panteracer]

Mark when can I send my bird over for the header mods:)
would love to do it on the bird but not a lot of room
Herb Adams modified his Oil Pan to get them on his first Firebird

Pic of my Pantera headers... easy compared to what you did

Bob

[Che70velle]

Mark, did you build your own 180° headers? Those are slick.

And yes, a lot of "American muscle" type guys are not going to like the sound of 180° headers. They get rid of that distinct American V8 sound. Anyone that gets all hot-and-bothered by a lumpy cam is going to think that a car with 180° headers sounds like a sewing machine.

On a different forum, someone posted a clip of the new Ford "voodoo" engine, with its flat-plane crankshaft... so it has an exhaust note like 180° headers. Anyways, there were people who said that it sounds "rice", because they are used to the uneven chugging of a typical American bent crank motor.

I prefer quiet exhaust, so my opinion is far from the average. I do like the scavenging effects of the 180° headers, but I can't get behind dry-sump oiling so packaging becomes a problem. I guess I am stuck with the rest of us mere mortals, and I will have to settle for some Tri-Y's.


Gonna have to disagree with most of this.
I ran 180* headers on some of my race cars, and they in no way get rid of the distinct american sound. Perhaps your mistaking 180* headers for something else. Sewing machine? Really?
The flat plane engines produce a unique sound of their own. Sounds nothing like a set of 180* headers really. They are probably referring to the ricer term, due to Italian built cars making that sound, because most come with a flat plane crankshaft.

[GEN_X]

any updates?

[Flash68]

l-AqOHv29L0

[Vince@Meanstreets]

haa saw that on IG, my wifes new ring tone



awesome car!!!!!

[glassman]

The popping at lower RPM on the decel reminds me of clapping after a great performance.....of which it was...

[tom091074]

This is one of the coolest cars/builds I've ever seen on here! :headspin: :thumbsup:

[intocarss]

It's mesmerising :thumbsup:

[Rmonte]

Best car on the site!

[WSSix]

eargasm!!!

[syborg tt]

This is one of the coolest cars/builds I've ever seen on here! :headspin: :thumbsup:

I am going to have to agree with you. This car is just insane !!!

[Mac&Otto]

Chris,

The car is fantastic!!! I was able to get a look at SEMA and took several pictures. Did you guys fab the lexan windshield/backglass/windows?

Thanks, Cal

[dave96dcm]

I'm also curious about the lexan and the rear window.

[olds87]

I just found this on YouTube of car running at track in Illinois. Enjoy.

ZzYkOI8tev8

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Oh I could watch that for hours

[hersheys69z]

Wow so sick to see this car in action.
Now I know what my Roadster Shop lottery build would he haha

How did you guys make the vented rear window?
Where did you get the diffuser brake light?
Thanks Chris

[RS-Chris]

I just found this on YouTube of car running at track in Illinois. Enjoy.

ZzYkOI8tev8

You beat me to it!!

[RS-Chris]

Chris,

The car is fantastic!!! I was able to get a look at SEMA and took several pictures. Did you guys fab the lexan windshield/backglass/windows?

Thanks, Cal

I'm also curious about the lexan and the rear window.

Wow so sick to see this car in action.
Now I know what my Roadster Shop lottery build would he haha

How did you guys make the vented rear window?
Where did you get the diffuser brake light?
Thanks Chris

The vented rear window was a cool piece - a little nod to the F40 (a personal favorite). It was a custom piece we layed out and made by AM Hot Rod Glass.

Brake light is by McLaren (yes, that McLaren :unibrow:) It's the same one used in the F1 cars.

[olds87]

You beat me to it!!

I got a notification on YouTube about it be available.

[LXSS350]

The vented rear window was a cool piece - a little nod to the F40 (a personal favorite). It was a custom piece we layed out and made by AM Hot Rod Glass.

Brake light is by McLaren (yes, that McLaren :unibrow:) It's the same one used in the F1 cars.

Seeing Rampage get around the Blackhawk track just gives me goosebumps. :thumbsup:

Ferrari/McLaren - Sounds as expensive as it looks :D :G-Dub:

For us mere mortals (if interested) a variety of center flashing rear fog lights come in less expensive flavors.

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/userstorage/000/001/002/852/687734ef66.jpg

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/userstorage/000/001/002/851/5a5b4cca94.jpg

[conekiller13]

I'm really surprised this gigantic pile of awesomness wasn't at the GRM event. Maybe next year?

They should also stage some kind of head to head duel for the Big Red T.V. show...

:G-Dub:

[dave96dcm]

I couldn't help it I was curious if they would make another rear window, so I called AM Hot Rod Glass, and she does still have the molds and will make more, she said it would cost 12-15, I said, Oh 12-15 hundred that's not too bad, then she said, no that's what a normal windshield would cost, the louvered one that we made them would be 12-15 thousand! They can make it in different colors though. She said it takes a few days and it is not easy to make but it is a nice piece. I agree.

I wont be getting one lol. It is a awesome piece though.

[214Chevy]

would be 12-15 thousand!

Hahahahah...you should have known better to think that a one-off piece would be cheap. :guns:

[devinb]

Awesome build...

How did you get your depth to the front splitter and rear diffuser. What was the process to building those after getting the mold ready for lay carbon if you dont mind giving up some of your tricks..

[atomicjoe23]

Time for some updates!

With the foundation of the car coming together we could turn our attention to creating the carbon pieces we needed to give this car the shape and look we wanted.

Figuring out how to do this was a process in itself. With foam being the fastest to build shape and carve, we set about creating the 'jig' to both hold the foam we poured and establish guides and limits for where we could cut and still allow clearance for the suspension articulation. In essence, it had to look as good as it worked.

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What is the width and thickness of the metal "fingers" you used?

Is that just tape stretched over the metal fingers or did you put some additional support in that we can't see before you put foam over the tape?

How did you apply and contain the foam? Did you build some sort of containment and then just pour the liquid foam in and wait for it expand, remove the containment, and start shaping?

If you had pictures of the containment before or during the foam application that would be great. . .

Thanks for all the pics!!! GREAT looking car and AWESOME fab work!!!

[Zspoiler]

Rampage "harkens" back to the 1970-81 IMSA/ SCCA road racers.with a modern touch. It looks like it would fun to drive.

[syborg tt]

I heard a rumor that the car was lost in a garage fire.

Please say it ain't so

[garickman]

I heard a rumor that the car was lost in a garage fire.

Please say it ain't so

Burned to the ground.....this guy is rebuilding it.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkl2R7qFMEe/?taken-by=tonio5120

[Flash68]

Yep, the remnants were bought recently via auction.

[WSSix]

Wow, that stinks that it burned up. Was it a house fire or did the car itself catch fire? I'm glad it's being rebuilt to some extent.

[ur-n-8]

I'm sure someone will know for sure, but I heard it was a garage fire with several other vehicles.

[alex n]

Wow that sucks, was it in California?

[alex n]

Yep, the remnants were bought recently via auction.

what's the story on this car? And if the metal wasn't warped which it doesn't look like it was, it is probably a hell of a deal, I wouldn't be afraid of it just as long as it didn't get too hot

[Che70velle]

Off of memory here, they made molds I believe of the fender flares. Perhaps they would re-make them if the molds are still around? Shouldn’t cost very much lol! Shame the car burnt!

[clill]

I saw pics of it when it was for sale on Copart. It got hot. Somebody has the pics. It was sad to see.