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Steve1968LS2
06-07-2006, 09:59 AM
Ford stock is in the toilet.. the companies image is hurting so what do you do? Sick you lawyers on companies that use the words "Mustang" "pony" or "stang" in any way whatsoever..
http://www.badmustangsclub.com/graphics-misc/hoofbeats_01.gif
Discuss...
Mecom Racer
06-07-2006, 10:13 AM
Well... it's not the first time something like this has happened. GM did the same thing with all the Corvette shops, etc. They own the name. Any intelligent business owner should know not to call their company "Corvette Mike's" or something like that. The gas station named "Mustang Mart" could argue that they are referring to the type of horse, not the car if they are in an area indigenous to the animal... Afterall, what is Ford going to do - make us change the namesake animals' name because they trademarked it? Sue American Indians for riding their Mustang horses? Maybe Turtle Wax should sue to make us all stop calling the little hard shelled critters by their actual name and come up with something else...
Like anything else, what is required here is "common sense". Unfortunately, maybe someone already trademarked that phrase so we can't use it anymore. :willy:
Steve1968LS2
06-07-2006, 10:16 AM
Well... it's not the first time something like this has happened. GM did the same thing with all the Corvette shops, etc. They own the name. Any intelligent business owner should know not to call their company "Corvette Mike's" or something like that. The gas station named "Mustang Mart" could argue that they are referring to the type of horse, not the car if they are in an area indigenous to the animal... Afterall, what is Ford going to do - make us change the namesake animals' name because they trademarked it? Sue American Indians for riding their Mustang horses? Maybe Turtle Wax should sue to make us all stop calling the little hard shelled critters by their actual name and come up with something else...
Like anything else, what is required here is "common sense". Unfortunately, maybe someone already trademarked that name so we can't use it anymore. :willy:
I think the wild horses of America should sue Ford for using thier name.. they had it first.. lol
At least the word "Corvette" was coined by GM.. Ford couldn't even be that inventive ;)
And does this really help Ford in the long term (or Corvette for that matter) to piss on companies and websites that help your fan base?
Damn True
06-07-2006, 10:30 AM
Take a look at the back of a Harley Davidson catalog. They have copyrighted nearly every word you can think of that even remotely relates to Harleys.
They have even copyrighted the sound a Harley makes so companies can't even use a recording of a Harley in a radio or TV ad.
I'm actually suprised that Ford waited as long as they have to do it. Good decision.
And does this really help Ford in the long term (or Corvette for that matter) to piss on companies and websites that help your fan base?
Exactly. Talk about cutting their own throat. This is another example of incredible mismanagement and short sightedness. Not only will we all pay for this by on the front end with higher prices for Ford parts and cars, but again on the back end when Ford files for bankruptcy and the Feds bail them out. :mad:
Damn True
06-07-2006, 10:42 AM
Dosen't seem to have hurt Harley. They made their move right after the AMF debacle when they were at their lowest point. It's been all good for them since.
Correlation is of course not causation, but the move hasn't hurt them at all. Some would argue that it provided the Harley aftermarket a better means of creating their own brand identity for their products rather than having everyone co-opt the Harley names which gave a sense of sameness to everyones stuff.
Payton King
06-07-2006, 11:10 AM
Actually GM did not coin the phrase/name "Corvette." Corvette was a very fast warship in the 1400's or 1700's. I cannot remember the exact date.
Here is an idea for all of the people the have Mustang shops. Have your name legally changed to Mustang. Then the company is named after you and not the car. IE Steven Mustang Rupp.
I wonder if you could call your company "The Parts Place Formerly Known As Mustangs Unlimited...."
That's not technically using Mustang in the name, is it? :unibrow:
rwhite692
06-07-2006, 11:27 AM
What does this mean for all the hardworking gals at the MUSTANG RANCH?
MaxHarvard
06-07-2006, 11:32 AM
Actually GM did not coin the phrase/name "Corvette." Corvette was a very fast warship in the 1400's or 1700's. I cannot remember the exact date.
Here is an idea for all of the people the have Mustang shops. Have your name legally changed to Mustang. Then the company is named after you and not the car. IE Steven Mustang Rupp.
I thought it was a class of Battleships in WWII?
Slick
06-07-2006, 11:46 AM
This happens all over the place, anyone see how many places Monster Cable has sued for the term monster? They have sued (and won a bunch) everyone you can think of....you'd swear it was the owners mission in life.
Steve1968LS2
06-07-2006, 11:47 AM
Dosen't seem to have hurt Harley. They made their move right after the AMF debacle when they were at their lowest point. It's been all good for them since.
Correlation is of course not causation, but the move hasn't hurt them at all. Some would argue that it provided the Harley aftermarket a better means of creating their own brand identity for their products rather than having everyone co-opt the Harley names which gave a sense of sameness to everyones stuff.
Does Harley sue motorcycle clubs for using the word Harley? Like I said, I can see this in terms of product but bashing websites and companies that PROMOTE the brand amoung fans seems to be counter productive.. and Ford didn't even invent the word.. The also say they will protect the word "Pony".. so I guess no more Pony Rides.. just "small horse rides".. lol
Steve1968LS2
06-07-2006, 11:48 AM
Oh.. I almost forgot
Ford Motor Company F 6.90 -0.05 (-0.72%)
Maybe Ford shoud be fixing thier screwed up business rather than going after companies and enthusiasts that are NOT the core problems at thier company.. :yes:
astroracer
06-07-2006, 11:57 AM
I posted this on the Pro Touring board...
Does this mean all of these still flying will have to be renamed?
So maybe Ford should be sued by North American for trademark infringement... Too bad NA went out of business...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/P-51D.jpg/250px-P-51D.jpg
Maybe http://www.blm.gov/ needs to sue Ford...
Will they have to change the name of these?
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/horses/mustang/mustang4.jpg
Will Wilson Pickett have to rename his song?
AND change the words in it?
Mustang Sally
Originally performed by Wilson Pickett
Hit # 23 on the Top 40 charts in 1966
Remade by The Commitments for the movie "The Commitments" in 1991
Mustang Sally,
Guess you better slow your Mustang down.
Mustang Sally, my baby,
Guess you better slow your Mustang down.
You been a runnin' all over the town now,
Guess I'll have to put your flat feet on the ground.
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
One of these early mornings
I'm gonna be wipin' those weepin' eyes.
I bought you a brand new Mustang, it was a natural sixty-five.
Now you comin' right signifyin' a woman,
Girl you won't, won't let me ride.
Mustang Sally, now baby,
Guess you better slow that Mustang down.
You been a runnin' all over the town,
Oh, I gotta put your flat feet on the ground.
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
All you wanna do is a ride around, Sally (RIDE SALLY RIDE)
One of these early mornings, I'm gonna be wipin' your weepin' eyes.
Can a worms if you really want to get technical...
Mark
rwhite692
06-07-2006, 11:59 AM
"The intent is to eliminate the use of trademark names, including Mustang and Thunderbird..."
So many businesses will be impacted...just the Thunderbird stuff alone should keep the lawyers busy for a decade... I hope that American Indians are able to get some restitution...after all, they came up with it in the first place, right??:rofl:
Damn True
06-07-2006, 12:14 PM
Does Harley sue motorcycle clubs for using the word Harley? Like I said, I can see this in terms of product but bashing websites and companies that PROMOTE the brand amoung fans seems to be counter productive.. and Ford didn't even invent the word.. The also say they will protect the word "Pony".. so I guess no more Pony Rides.. just "small horse rides".. lol
They aren't going to come after a message board like this one unless it somehow is damaging to the image of the brand. It poses no relationship confusion threat, nobody is making any (real) money off of it, and unless it is a site dedicated to images of gay midget sex on the hood of '67 mustangs it presents no damage to the brand image.
But, if www.StevenRupp'sHouse-O-Mustangs.com which sells parts over the net also has a message board he might get a cease and desist order.
Harley has never come down on a club, and I sincerely doubt Ford will either.
Payton King
06-07-2006, 12:20 PM
I did not "google it" but a corvette was a class of sailing ships from Spain I believe. They may have used it in WWII since it was a successful ship in the days of wind power.
Shelby is doing the same thing but also on parts, name branding, emblems, fiberglass parts, ect. It's the new trend. :thmbsdwn:
Damn True
06-07-2006, 12:41 PM
Not new at all actually.
trapin
06-07-2006, 01:02 PM
Take a look at the back of a Harley Davidson catalog. They have copyrighted nearly every word you can think of that even remotely relates to Harleys.
They have even copyrighted the sound a Harley makes so companies can't even use a recording of a Harley in a radio or TV ad.
I'm actually suprised that Ford waited as long as they have to do it. Good decision.
True...didn't Harley get shot down on that? I had heard the government told them "no" on that one.
Damn True
06-07-2006, 03:16 PM
True...didn't Harley get shot down on that? I had heard the government told them "no" on that one.
A portion of the original intent was to prevent other manufacturers from building engines that "sound" like a Harley and to force companies like S&S to pay a license to Harley to build duplicates. But since the patent had run out on the version of the V-twin that they were trying to protect (the Evo) and certainly on the shovel, pan and knuck the govt. shot down that portion of the protection.
The protection still provides HD with the means of coming down on someone for using the sound of a Harley in a fasion that implies endorsement. Progressive Insurance got whacked for using it in radio ads about 7 years ago.
Steve1968LS2
06-07-2006, 04:09 PM
They aren't going to come after a message board like this one unless it somehow is damaging to the image of the brand. It poses no relationship confusion threat, nobody is making any (real) money off of it, and unless it is a site dedicated to images of gay midget sex on the hood of '67 mustangs it presents no damage to the brand image.
But, if www.StevenRupp'sHouse-O-Mustangs.com which sells parts over the net also has a message board he might get a cease and desist order.
Harley has never come down on a club, and I sincerely doubt Ford will either.
Oh, I am sure Ford will go after sites like Stang.net and others just like GM went after Corvetteforum.com ..
Steve1968LS2
06-07-2006, 04:10 PM
I did not "google it" but a corvette was a class of sailing ships from Spain I believe. They may have used it in WWII since it was a successful ship in the days of wind power.
You are correct.. it's a naval ship smaller than a friggit (sp?).. you would think that I would have remembered that.. lol
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