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I thought I'd post a pic of the wiring for the car. Between the BS3 EFI and the American Autowire Hwy 22 kit, I should stay busy for a little while. I decided to go with the AAW Hwy 22 kit over a stock replacement since I'll be mounting the battery(s) in the trunk, the EFI, etc. The kit has everything, even a color coded schematic. Now I just need to decide where to mount the BS3 box.
http://www.lateral-g.net/temp/wiring.jpg
61Bubbletop
06-06-2006, 06:43 AM
Looks like you will be VERY busy :thumbsup: Nice stuff :yes:
Ricochet
06-06-2006, 06:49 AM
I thought I'd post a pic of the wiring for the car. Between the BS3 EFI and the American Autowire Hwy 22 kit, I should stay busy for a little while. I decided to go with the AAW Hwy 22 kit over a stock replacement since I'll be mounting the battery(s) in the trunk, the EFI, etc. The kit has everything, even a color coded schematic. Now I just need to decide where to mount the BS3 box.
http://www.lateral-g.net/temp/wiring.jpg
That layout looks oh so familar. :D Get it all figured out them I'll pick your brain once I start wiring mine. Both these companies make killer stuff. :thumbsup:
MarkM66
06-06-2006, 07:23 AM
WOW!
Do the wires have print on them as to what they are for?
WOW!
Do the wires have print on them as to what they are for?
I can only speak for the AAW kit, but yes. The wires are printed every 3 inches and are color coded to plug into the color chart of the panel you see in the photo. The schematics are also color coded and labeled.
CAMAROBOY69
06-06-2006, 07:44 AM
That looks like fun. I want to play. :D
I will eventualy have to get some wiring for the rear of my 69 Camaro. My tail lights are all screwed up. I am sure I will purchase them from AAW. Sounds like they have a lot of great products. The LED tail lights are sooo tempting. I just cant afford them for a while.
Steve1968LS2
06-06-2006, 07:47 AM
That looks like fun. I want to play. :D
I will eventualy have to get some wiring for the rear of my 69 Camaro. My tail lights are all screwed up. I am sure I will purchase them from AAW. Sounds like they have a lot of great products. The LED tail lights are sooo tempting. I just cant afford them for a while.
My LED AAW tail lights arrived yesterday.. very high quality stuff.
The first pic in this thread made me think of spagetti.. :yes:
jimhamptons
06-06-2006, 08:47 AM
Wow that BS3 box is huge!! That looks like a heckuva project. :thumbsup:
Speedster
06-06-2006, 09:03 AM
Cool pic. Don't let anyone with a wire cutter get too close...:)
Steve1968LS2
06-06-2006, 10:59 AM
By the way Scott.. when the hell are you going to send me a build shot of your car for Hometown??? :willy:
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By the way Scott.. when the hell are you going to send me a build shot of your car for Hometown??? :willy:
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[email protected]
I know, I need to do that. :yes: The rear end is back out of the car, I'm getting it painted. Once I get it back on the ground, I'll get you some 7mp pics. :thumbsup:
race-rodz
06-06-2006, 07:01 PM
what a mess.... if steev-o hadnt got to me...my 34 would only had 7...maybe 8 wires in it 16 if you wanna count plug wires :unibrow:
Sales@Dutchboys
06-06-2006, 07:06 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmm I remember that!
-Paul
Leadfoot1
06-06-2006, 08:00 PM
Sorry boys and girls.....(Are there any girls in here anyway???)
'Count me out on this one! This is one of those projects where you're happy to have a friend that wires cars for a living...And one that absolutely LOVES to do the work on your cars to SURPASS himself at that!
No wiring for me, thanks!
Very nice kit Scott, Good luck....
Lead.
awr68
06-06-2006, 08:24 PM
Looks good Scott! I think I need to give Theresa a call!!
What color is the rear end and suspension going?
J2SpeedandCustom
06-07-2006, 05:38 AM
We're almost done installing an AAW "Classic Update" kit in a 69 Camaro, and it is an excellent product! I would highly recommend their products. :thumbsup:
Tony, I'm going to stick with black for the rear suspension. :)
Lead, I do this kind of stuff for a living. I don't wire cars, but I'm an electronic tech at a hospital and I deal with schematics, wiring, programming and troubleshooting on a daily basis. I was telling Theresa that I've dealt with all kinds of systems and I can really appreciate the little things that AAW has done with this kit that really make the difference - such as packaging, subsystem segregation, documentation, supplied schematics, and a supplied tech support phone number. This kit is so well thought out that you wouldn't even need a schematic. It's that intuitive. :thumbsup: My only suggestion to AAW is that instead of calling it a kit, it should be called a system because it's complete with everything down to the 175A master fuse.
awr68
06-07-2006, 05:59 AM
I was telling Theresa that I've dealt with all kinds of systems and I can really appreciate the little things that AAW has done with this kit that really make the difference - such as packaging, subsystem segration, documentation, supplied schematics, and a supplied tech support phone number. This kit is so well thought out that you don't even need a schematic. It's that intuitive. :thumbsup: My only suggestion to AAW is that instead of calling it a kit, it should be called a system because it's complete with everything down to the 175A master fuse.
Good to hear! I'm going with AAW for sure!! :thumbsup:
Leadfoot1
06-07-2006, 06:18 AM
Lead, I do this kind of stuff for a living. I don't wire cars, but I'm an electronic tech at a hospital and I deal with schematics, wiring, programming and troubleshooting on a daily basis.
GREAT!!!!
Now i know 2 guys who like that stuff!!! :bow:
:thumbsup: Lead
Rybar
06-07-2006, 10:24 AM
Glad you got a handle on it Scott, I have no clue when it comes to wiring... :D
What made you decide on BS3? Pros and Cons. I have a local buddy installing it on his Procharged 420 ci LS1 stroker 4th gen. :eek:
rockdogz
06-07-2006, 11:20 AM
Cool deal Scott, wiring is fun! :)
We're almost done installing an AAW "Classic Update" kit in a 69 Camaro, and it is an excellent product! I would highly recommend their products. :thumbsup:
Will you send me a photo of the car when it's done so I can add it to the Customer's Car page?
Glad you guys are so happy with our wiring. I'm only a phone call away if you need help figuring out which products fit your application. :thumbsup:
J2SpeedandCustom
06-08-2006, 05:58 AM
Will you send me a photo of the car when it's done so I can add it to the Customer's Car page?
Glad you guys are so happy with our wiring. I'm only a phone call away if you need help figuring out which products fit your application. :thumbsup:
Will do Theresa. I appreciate the customer service. :D
Steve68
06-08-2006, 06:16 PM
Yowza, lots of wiring, is there that much of a advantage over a good condition stock harness??
Steve, that would depend on what you intend to do with the car. I have changed so much - the EFI, gauge cluster, battery relocation, wiper motor, electric fans, electric fuel pump, etc... it just made sense for me and my project.
camcojb
06-08-2006, 09:46 PM
The people at AAW are awesome. They will definitely be doing all my wiring needs. :thumbsup:
Jody
mazspeed
06-08-2006, 10:16 PM
The people at AAW are awesome. They will definitely be doing all my wiring needs. :thumbsup:
Jody
I don't think I have ever seen a company that goes out of their way to make there customers happy. Theresa called me the other day to make sure I was ok after she heard what happened to my car. I mean what company does this? Just awesome.
Steve68
06-09-2006, 03:21 AM
Hmmm, I might have to check into this
Scott, I have all the same stuff you listed, I might be agood idea for my car,
Steve, you may want to research it. You definitely don't want electrical gremlins when running EFI, it can turn into a troubleshooting nightmare.
trapin
06-13-2006, 08:40 AM
That'll be my Winter....plumbing and wiring. Now I know who to go through when it comes time to install the electrical.
That'll be my Winter....plumbing and wiring. Now I know who to go through when it comes time to install the electrical.
Great Tony! I look forward to talking to you when you're ready. :thumbsup:
Damn True
06-13-2006, 11:05 AM
Zoiks that's a lot of wire. That's one system on the car that intimidates me. I'm terrified of hooking something up bass-ackwards and bzzzzzzap!
Mean 69
06-13-2006, 12:24 PM
I'm terrified of hooking something up bass-ackwards and bzzzzzzap!
Having dealt with electronics for years, dating back to fixing helicopters in the military, I can tell you that the electronic components don't work as well once you let the "magic smoke" out of them.
M
Aye, that's the truth. And the thing about the magic smoke is that once it gets out it's really hard to put back in. :lol:
71Nova
06-13-2006, 02:24 PM
Scott I was wondering if you are putting the fuse block under the dash in the stock location, or posibly moving it to the trunk. I noticed that the kit you are using does not have the plug that goes threw the firewall. I am getting ready to do the same on my nova. Mark I didnt know you worked on helicopters! I got out of the army 2 years ago and was an electrician on Apache longbows.
Mean 69
06-13-2006, 03:01 PM
Yep, but it was a LONG time ago by your clock, young man! Let's put it this way, I was in when they debuted the Apaches.... The aircraft I was working on at the time was as old as I was, long since retired from service (Gruman OV/RV-1D Mohawk surveillance fixed wing). 68 Foxtrot, I trained at Ft. Eustis, nice place.
To answer the question about whether a new harness is worth it relative to a decent old one, yes, they are far better. Like everything, wires age, the copper corrodes, and the wire insulation can break down. Plus, chances are really good someone has had their hands on the mess, and that usually isn't a good thing. I am sure there are exceptions, but EVERY muscle car I have owned has had at least one issue with the electrical. My favorite was my 72 Chevelle, when I would turn the headlights on, the gas gauge would drop 1/4 tank. If I think about it when I get home, I'll post a pic of the harness/fuse block I pulled out of the 68 Plymouth project, complete with the tinfoil fuse bypasses! That's always a classic.
M
ohcbird
06-13-2006, 07:52 PM
Scott- Looks like fun man; I love wiring... Seriously!
Steve68- Let me know if you want some help; I've done professional rigging and wiring for years now. Remember my 'organized' garage? Half of those totes are filled with switches, wirirng, and rigging supplies.
Steve68
06-13-2006, 08:02 PM
Oh Jeff, empty your PM box, My buddy want them bars! call me
Scott I was wondering if you are putting the fuse block under the dash in the stock location, or posibly moving it to the trunk.
I'm still up in the air on location. I have to find a good spot for the BS3 ECM, the fuse block, and the Vintage Air bi-level heater/defrost box. I'll know more in a week or so.
Damn True
06-13-2006, 10:40 PM
Having dealt with electronics for years, dating back to fixing helicopters in the military, I can tell you that the electronic components don't work as well once you let the "magic smoke" out of them.
M
Same experience base. Coast Guard helicopters for me. Luckily I only had one "magic smoke" incident (funny we each know the same term for it) and it was a starter/generator that (thank god) was on a test bench after a rebuild rather than on an aircraft.
True should not rebuild starters at 3am on day 3 of hurricane Paka response in Guam.
Steve68
06-14-2006, 05:46 AM
Scott, let me know on location of the fuse box, I kinda like it under the dash, but not so far up in the hole like,
Will do. It will most likely be in the factory location, although I'm going to look into a few variations of that.
Steve Chryssos
06-16-2006, 09:08 AM
Looks like fun. I screwed up my wiring my doing the install BEFORE I had all of the wired components in place. Once I started making changes, things went downhill. Making changes over the years didn't help either. It's not terrible, but I seek perfection. So it's best to have all the hard parts in their final mounting location before busting out the wiring tools. I'll re-do all of the wiring this winter.
Sparky
06-17-2006, 07:56 AM
I really like the pictures you have posted, kinda neat the way you have everything laid out. Although most of what I do I have to build from scratch, I have worked with AAW harnesses in the past on a couple of restorations I have done. Very nice stuff for restorations, I especially like the fact that they have the correct connectors and clips on their harnesses.
I also like the fact that you have gone with the Big Stuff 3 system, you will be very happy with the system. I am a dealer for BS3 and I have installed many of these systems, in fact I recently built a custom Engine Harness utilizing BS3 for Mark Stielow for one of his projects. I have done quite a few Engine Harnesses for Mark over the years.
I hope you have put the forethought into laying your whole electrical system out on paper, creating yourself a roadmap. That way you don’t leave yourself with any unseen surprises and it makes the whole install go much easier. It is a time consuming tedious job and requires patience, the more time and planning you put into it will make the outcome very neat.
If I can be of any assistance, I would be more then happy to help, especially if you have any questions about the BS3 system.
Sparky
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