Suspension software.

[zo6s10]

So I bought Front Suspension Geometry Pro a few years back. Not a bad program for the money and I like that you can add shims. I have yet to hear of someone using this program however
http://www.auto-ware.com/software/asgp/asgp.htm

Next one I was looking at was Susprog. Does front and rear for a decent price but again, have yet to see anyone use it.
http://www.susprog.com/index.htm

Then of course there is the one everyone seems to use, Performance Trends. I'm thinking there must be a reason most of the pros use it. Only problem is the full vehical version is out of the budget right now. http://performancetrends.com/SuspAnzr.htm

Should I just wait another week or so and get Performance trends full or stick with what I have?

[funcars]

I've been using susprog for about 15 years. It works well and gives you a lot of info to work with.

Good luck with whatever you choose

[zo6s10]

Thanks for the input.
I'm at the point where I think I'll just buy the performance trends full software so if I need some help I can send a file to someone for help. I do like the "shim" input but dont know if it is a shim or changes pick up points in fgsp. Don't know if the other programs have that or not.

[David Pozzi]

I'd get the Performance Trends software.
You can upgrade to the full version later, I think you just pay the difference in price.

[zo6s10]

I'd get the Performance Trends software.
You can upgrade to the full version later.
Thanks Mr. Pozzi, your input means a lot to me. You and Mary are my Idols. :)

[Ron Sutton]

I personally use, recommend & sell the Performance Trends software products for a few key reasons. Besides being accurate, they're easier to use than most others, have good visuals, great graphs & you can buy the level you need without having to buy a full blown race car designing version.

The three common versions I recommend are:

1. PT's basic front suspension software, called "Roll Center Calculator"
I recommend this version for car guys working out their front roll center, camber gain, dive evaluations, etc. It's only $79. Go HERE (http://shop.ronsuttonracetechnology.com/shopping/productDetails.aspx?i=336873&c=6098).

2. A better route is getting their "Roll Center Calculator PLUS"
For $129 ... it also includes rear suspension & overall handling calculations, which I think is important. The FLLD calculation in the "Plus" is worth the price of the software all by itself, because you can work out combinations of roll center, spring rates & sway bar rates and KNOW how balanced the car will be. This allows you to work out your spring & sway bar rates ... front & rear ... for a neutral handling balanced car. Go HERE (http://shop.ronsuttonracetechnology.com/shopping/productDetails.aspx?i=680418&c=6098).

Both of these software versions above are pretty easy to learn & use.

3. I use the full design version, called "Suspension Analyzer" which allows me to design every aspect of the car's suspension & see the 3D results. It is more complex to use, mainly because you have to sort through a gazillion input options most guys won't use. I have found Performance Trends Suspension Analyzer is the easiest to use of the complete, 3D software brand options, but that's like saying brain surgery is easier than rocket science. It's $399 & you can get it HERE (http://shop.ronsuttonracetechnology.com/shopping/productDetails.aspx?i=715554&c=6098).

I am a fan of people learning this stuff, measuring their cars, experimenting with set-ups, etc ... and for that you'll want to purchase & learn the appropriate software.

For other car guys that aren't interested in doing multiple cars & just want to get their one car optimized ...
be it roll centers, steering, spring & sway bar rates or building a custom suspension ... I offer a large menu of tech services to do this for you. It's a pretty simple process and an everyday part of my business model, where I provide you instructions & a form ... you measure your car ... I input the numbers to calculate what your current set-up is ... and then use my knowledge & experience to design you an optimum set-up. I provide you with the realistic changes to make & you end up with a highly optimized suspension set-up. These services start at $39 & up. You can see them HERE (http://www.ronsutton-racetechnology.com/pages.item.9/Technical-Services.html).

If anyone needs help deciding on a software ... or potentially one of my tech services ... feel free to contact me & discuss.

:cheers:

Ron Sutton
(916) 834-8051
[email protected]

[zo6s10]

Thanks Ron!
Have used the PT trial before and it was great but for a minitrucker(everyone starts somewhere) it was to much $.Was thinking of you when I said "so if I need some help I can send a file to someone". Someday I will get you to help me fine tune. I read all your posts over and over until I understand. Everyone on this site is very helpfull but your way of explaining things is eaisier for me to understand.