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intocarss
07-15-2014, 01:17 PM
Stay with this - even if you aren't a 'car nut', this is stunning.






* One Top Fuel dragster outfitted with a 500 cubic-inch replica Dodge (actually Keith Black, etc) Hemi engine makes more horsepower (8,000 HP) than the first 4 rows of cars at NASCAR's Daytona 500.




* Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second;

a fully loaded Boeing 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate but with 25% less energy being produced.




* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to even drive the dragster's supercharger.




* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lockup at full throttle.




* At the stoichio-metric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.




* Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.




* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. Which is typically the output of a small electric arc welder in each cylinder.




* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way thru the run, the engine is 'dieseling' from compression and the glow of the exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.




* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with enough force to blow the cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half !!




* Dragsters reach over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading this sentence.




* In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, a dragster must accelerate an average of over 4 G's. In order to reach 200 MPH well before reaching half-track, at launch the acceleration approaches 8 G's.




* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!




* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.




* The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM.




* THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid for, the pit crew is working for free,

& NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run will cost an estimated $1,000 per second.




0 to 100 MPH in .8 seconds (the first 60 feet of the run)

0 to 200 MPH in 2.2 seconds (the first 350 feet of the run)

6 G-forces at the starting line (nothing accelerates faster on land)

6 negative G-forces upon deployment of twin 'chutes at 300 MPH

glassman
07-15-2014, 01:29 PM
I have this print out somewhere at home, and this data is a few years old, thats how amazing it is.

I've wondered just how far, we as a species, can take the combustable engine....

intocarss
07-15-2014, 01:44 PM
xGTbQuhhluY

tones2SS
07-15-2014, 04:44 PM
* Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second;
a fully loaded Boeing 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate but with 25% less energy being produced.
* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to even drive the dragster's supercharger.
* The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM.

0 to 100 MPH in .8 seconds (the first 60 feet of the run)

0 to 200 MPH in 2.2 seconds (the first 350 feet of the run)

6 G-forces at the starting line (nothing accelerates faster on land)

6 negative G-forces upon deployment of twin 'chutes at 300 MPH

That is insane! Wow.

EBMC
07-15-2014, 06:21 PM
And I think running 7's is pretty fast...:confused59:

GregWeld
07-15-2014, 10:02 PM
And I think running 7's is pretty fast...:confused59:

Steve,


The summer I worked for McCulloch and Whipple --- they set the National Record with a 7.19 - 211 MPH --- That's AA/FC for those that don't know. We were euphoric! It was epic!

I think Chevy sells showroom stock cars that can do that now.... HAHAHAHAHAHA

fleetus macmullitz
07-15-2014, 11:43 PM
xGTbQuhhluY

:wow:

Meanwhile, in Sherwood forest...


lol

EBMC
07-16-2014, 08:58 AM
Steve,


The summer I worked for McCulloch and Whipple --- they set the National Record with a 7.19 - 211 MPH --- That's AA/FC for those that don't know. We were euphoric! It was epic!

I think Chevy sells showroom stock cars that can do that now.... HAHAHAHAHAHA

Thats a summer you'll never forget. What a great experience!

BMR Sales
07-16-2014, 09:57 AM
* Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second;



That doesn't sound right to me

EBMC
07-16-2014, 12:37 PM
That doesn't sound right to me

I agree, I think thats supposed to be per run. Or else it would need a 40 gal tank!

intocarss
07-16-2014, 01:26 PM
And I think running 7's is pretty fast...:confused59: 7's is fast.... those guys are just HAULING ASS!! ;)

:wow:

Meanwhile, in Sherwood forest...


lol You're killn me Cozmo :hello:

That doesn't sound right to me I agree

I found this...

… "that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars consume between four and five gallons of fuel during a quarter-mile run, which is equivalent to between 16 and 20 gallons per mile"?

… "that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars use between 10 and 12 gallons of fuel for a complete pass, including the burnout, backup to the starting line, and quarter-mile run?"


I agree, I think thats supposed to be per run. Or else it would need a 40 gal tank!

I was told they burn 5 gallons of fuel in the 1/4. But don't hold me to that ;)

Shmoov69
07-16-2014, 09:09 PM
I agree, I think thats supposed to be per run. Or else it would need a 40 gal tank!

What I was thinkin too.......!:lostmarbles:

Blake Foster
07-17-2014, 06:57 AM
And I think running 7's is pretty fast...:confused59:

Steve it is 1/2 as fast lol But Still FAST

69hugger
07-17-2014, 09:03 AM
Steve,


The summer I worked for McCulloch and Whipple --- they set the National Record with a 7.19 - 211 MPH --- That's AA/FC for those that don't know. We were euphoric! It was epic!

I think Chevy sells showroom stock cars that can do that now.... HAHAHAHAHAHA

GW,
And they used to think it was physically impossible to break the 6 second barrier, then the 5 second barrier, etc.
7.19 for a AA/FC? Man, you ARE "experienced"! The Ace must been a kid!

GregWeld
07-17-2014, 08:46 PM
GW,
And they used to think it was physically impossible to break the 6 second barrier, then the 5 second barrier, etc.
7.19 for a AA/FC? Man, you ARE "experienced"! The Ace must been a kid!




"Experienced" is a nice way to put it...has a nice ring to it. I was 17.... My job was to clean the tire rubber off the body --- and swab out the oil pan... and fetch oil from across the paddock. For that I think I remember them buying me a hot dog once. It wasn't a job - nobody had any money back then - it was "you can volunteer to help this weekend". It was never a full time deal. My much older roommate at the time ran Portland International Raceway drags - and that was my real job... and my best friend's brother was the local NHRA rep. So we got to hang out with people - that's all.

Remember these were the VERY EARLY 70's -- tires sucked by todays standards -- drivers actually had to "shoe" their way down the track -- they ran single magneto's... and there was a lot more to "know" and to guess about without the electronic data gathering of today. Just getting NEAR 7.00 was an act of god with all the planets in alignment...


PEACE! LOL





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69hugger
07-26-2014, 08:15 AM
And remember the oil downs, often on every run? Not the current 10-15 minutes to clean up, assuming the diaper doesn't catch it, which is rare. Often it was 45 minutes to an hour! Kitty litter & brooms.
Those 8 car shows sometimes took 6 or 7 hours to get in!
And I don't remembering the 90 degree heat with 0 shade being an issue. Thems were the days!