Fireworks and a Drone mounted GoPro

[Sieg]

Pretty impressive perspective.

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[mdprovee]

That was pretty cool.

[BMR Sales]

Nice!

Of course it would suck if a Mortar took out the Drone!

[Sieg]

Nice!

Of course it would suck if a Mortar took out the Drone!

What surprised me was that drone with articulating camera mount is under $1K.

$1358 w/ GoPro 3+ http://www.amazon.com/DJI-Phantom-Zenmuse-3-axis-Edition/dp/B00JXBCJBA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1404831971&sr=8-4&keywords=dji+phantom+2+vision%2B

A video screen to monitor flight w/ upgraded controller would be a must have IMO. Add another $580. http://www.amazon.com/DJI-Phantom-Flysight-Monitor-battery/dp/B00JRENUUM/ref=pd_sim_p_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=0JKZKWK3PWEYH20N1H6A

[Spiffav8]

Nice!

Of course it would suck if a Mortar took out the Drone!

It would suck even more if the Drone took out an airplane.

What surprised me was that drone with articulating camera mount is under $1K.

$1358 w/ GoPro 3+ http://www.amazon.com/DJI-Phantom-Zenmuse-3-axis-Edition/dp/B00JXBCJBA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1404831971&sr=8-4&keywords=dji+phantom+2+vision%2B

A video screen to monitor flight w/ upgraded controller would be a must have IMO. Add another $580. http://www.amazon.com/DJI-Phantom-Flysight-Monitor-battery/dp/B00JRENUUM/ref=pd_sim_p_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=0JKZKWK3PWEYH20N1H6A

Please tell me you're not buying one. :twak:

[Sieg]

Please tell me you're not buying one. :twak:

The kid's had an AR Drone for 5 years or so.........

Being able to pack a camera would be entertaining..........there's this nekkid beach on the river about 2 miles from the house that should be surveilled. LOL :D

[Spiffav8]

The kid's had an AR Drone for 5 years or so.........

Being able to pack a camera would be entertaining..........there's this nekkid beach on the river about 2 miles from the house that should be surveilled. LOL :D

Please keep it 60' AGL or below!

[GregWeld]

That's not my personal view of fireworks.... THIS was always my view....







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/4th%20of%20July/fireworkscatchanddrop.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/4th%20of%20July/fireworkscatchanddrop.jpg.html)

[Sieg]

Please keep it 60' AGL or below!

Please don't fly over my house at 61' AGL.


........unless you tell me when! :D

[GregWeld]

And then my personal view of July 5th......






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/4th%20of%20July/HardWork.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/4th%20of%20July/HardWork.jpg.html)

[Sieg]

......and after all that work.........oops!

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[GregWeld]

Think of it as a big ol' birthday cake for freedom!



:>)



Obviously PRE 9/11/2001 -- and we'd just done the largest show in America for July 4th, 2000.... since 1976. I took this photo July 4th 2001....






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/4th%20of%20July/LowerManhattanfromBigBlue.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/4th%20of%20July/LowerManhattanfromBigBlue.jpg.html)

[Vince@Meanstreets]

And then my personal view of July 5th......






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/4th%20of%20July/HardWork.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/4th%20of%20July/HardWork.jpg.html)

nice Daisey dukes greg. LOL

[Spiffav8]

Please don't fly over my house at 61' AGL.


........unless you tell me when! :D

To late!

[GregWeld]

......and after all that work.........oops!





We had that happen to one barge in 1998 when the Pyro (Jose) on that particular barge didn't flip the switch on the firing box from 24V's to TEST mode... TEST mode would send down MILLIAMPS About 100 "cues" went off - it was on the 3rd and during the day - so we had time to pull shells from other barges and re-do/alter - the show so nobody knew it happened.

A brief explanation:

These large shows are shot using a laptop --- a "cue" (a line of code) can be 1 shell or multiple shells in multiple locations on set. Typical New York City show runs about 600 cues (which is, for that show, about 4500 shells). The laptop sends a signal to a firing box when it's time for the cue to light... the firing box sends 24V's to an electronic match called a squib... the squib lights the "quick match fuse" -- which then travels almost instantly (quick match travels around 100 to 300 feet per second) to the LIFT CHARGE -- lifting the shell to it's predetermined height. At the same time the lift charge goes off -- it subsequently lights a TIMED (slo-blow) fuse which lights off the detonation charge to light up and blow apart the shell.

What Jose didn't do was flip his firing box into test mode -- and a computer can count down 600 cues pretty F'n fast! Lucky for him - he realized what he'd done and flipped it -- saving most of his barge.

The Idiots in San Diego (this video) didn't know what to do.... and lit 'em all off... That's AMATEUR HOUR right there. Which is why only real pro's are usually running the big shows.



Here's a half shell showing the LIFT charge -- then you can see the timer fuse:





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/4th%20of%20July/fireworksproject002_2.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/4th%20of%20July/fireworksproject002_2.jpg.html)





Where the red paper is covering the "quick match" --- we would tear off that paper covering -- slip a Squib inside -- fold it several times and seal it up with tape... The squibs have about a 6' two wire (zip wire) that we would then strip out -- careful place the shell into it's mortar.... and wire the squib to it's appropriate "pins" in the address box... large multi strand cables run from each address box back to the firing box.




In this photo -- the quick match is shown exposed. It WOULD NEVER BE exposed when done properly (thus the taping up after the squib is inserted).




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/4th%20of%20July/fireworksproject004_2.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/4th%20of%20July/fireworksproject004_2.jpg.html)







Each mortar or "cake" is then capped or covered with tinfoil so as to protect it from accidentally being lit by the sparks and fire from a shell that was intentionally set off....


At the end of a show -- you knew when you had a live round (a dud or a good live round that just failed to fire) in a mortar because the tinfoil would still be intact! Then you got to look down the mortar --- and then reach in there and pull it out and put it away in a special box! That was the WORST PART EVER BEING A PYRO!!!! That SOB could go off without any warning and you're sticking your arm down that tube!! I hated that part. UGH.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/4th%20of%20July/Midtown-turning.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/4th%20of%20July/Midtown-turning.jpg.html)






WE always covered our racks and mortars with plastic until we got in to place in case of rain -- then we'd remove the plastic sheeting -- RAIN was normal in NYC at the end of June or in July... HOT and HUMID is the word for that part of the world in the summer.....

[GregWeld]

nice Daisey dukes greg. LOL





All my clothing - except shoes - was tossed in the garbage at the end of every work day.

Most of the mortars we used were steel - they get wet (takes 10 days or so to build a show) from rain or splashed on from being barged up the East River... they're rusty nasty POS -- now add to the mix -- spent gun powder.... little bits of paper from what's left of the lift charge... and SAND used to pack and secure the mortars....

Now add to this HOT AND HUMID heavy duty work.... which ='s SWEAT. ALL DAY sweating like a pig - and handling this stuff... We had a term for it -- it was called being CORN DOGGED..... you were covered in sand/paper bits/spent powder and rust...

Your clothes STUNK -- and were not to be tossed in any washing machine. They should have just been doused in gas and left to burn. The pay more than covered the expense of "new".

[GregWeld]

Sieg -- After jacking your thread -- did I mention that video was friggin awesome!! I sent it to all my 'works buddies in case they hadn't seen it.

I wish they'd do that for the televised shows like the Macy's Forth of July that I used to work. What a fantastic view!!!

[cluxford]

I've seen one of these drones in action up close and personal....amazing what they can do and the video and pictures they get, and all for an incredibly low cost. I know a woman who works for the government who inspects houses where animal cruelty is reported. Historically it was a crap shoot if the visit would turn violent as not many people take kindly to that sort of knock on the door. Now she sits down the road launches the drone and does a fly over visual inspection first before taking it to the next step. They get some incredibly high quality very incriminating video

[intocarss]

They use this drone at our track in Ventura

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[Sieg]

To late!

Armed and ready..........61'..........got that covered! Probably a bit more lead than I'm used to applying though. :guns:

[Spiffav8]

Armed and ready..........61'..........got that covered! Probably a bit more lead than I'm used to applying though. :guns:

Ummm.....been there, gone, home having breakfast kinda thing. You go ahead and wait out there for me though. :knock:

[rickpaw]

Pretty neat video.

I've been thinking about buying one of these "drones" (technically quad copters) to film the kids playing on the beach, or inspect the roof of my house (2 stories)

As Curtis pointed out, these will need to be flown below 400', especially near an airport or aircraft. Most of the drone flyers are not aware of the restrictions. Last thing we want is the FAA cracking down. Several recent incidents came to mind (NY where 2 guys got arrested for flying too close to a chopper for example).

[Spiffav8]

Pretty neat video.

I've been thinking about buying one of these "drones" (technically quad copters) to film the kids playing on the beach, or inspect the roof of my house (2 stories)

As Curtis pointed out, these will need to be flown below 400', especially near an airport or aircraft. Most of the drone flyers are not aware of the restrictions. Last thing we want is the FAA cracking down. Several recent incidents came to mind (NY where 2 guys got arrested for flying too close to a chopper for example).

Buddy of mine flying a C-130 in IRAQ was at 5000' and hit a small UAV (Drone). It took out the number 2 engine and the damage to the wing was insane. He said that had it hit between #1 and #2 there was a real chance it could have brought the Herc down. People seem to understand that birds can bring airplanes down (Sully on the Hudson ring a bell), but they get so excited about these small drones they don't realize how much damage they can do.

400!? :twak:

[SSLance]

How far (high) can one of these quadcopters get away from the controller and still be "controlled" and what happens to them when they get too far away?

[GregWeld]

How far (high) can one of these quadcopters get away from the controller and still be "controlled" and what happens to them when they get too far away?






According to this website ---- 1000 Meters so roughly 3,000 feet. Much further than what I would have thought. This model from this company has an "auto return to home" when the signal is lost.



https://store.dji.com/product/phantom-2

[SSLance]

Wow!!

[carbuff]

At the last auto-x I attended, there was a couple there running a drone with a high-end Canon shooting video of the runs. It was outside the track shooting back into it. The guy ran the drone, and the wife ran the camera. It was big, 4-5' in diameter with 6 or 8 props. I was told he used it often for shooting video of water skiers, and he was 'practicing' with the cars.

Unfortunately during my session of working the course, it crashed. It was hovering about 100' from my station, and I heard a strange sound and turned just in time to see it hit the ground. Completely shattered the drone, and destroyed the Canon that was attached as well. One of my coworkers was also into them, and he said that may have been a $10k crash given the carbon fiber makeup of the drone plus the camera.

The culprit ended up being that he forgot to replace a batter pack with a freshly charged one. He had several there and was switching between runs. Apparently he replaced one and not the other. Upon inspection, when the one battery died, the other was running the whole unit. That appeared to draw too much current and melted a wire or connector. When that happened, instant power loss due to a short, and down it came.

I was certainly glad it wasn't near anyone. And I felt for him, that was a pricey mistake.

[RDuke]

http://www.dronefly.com/product-p/backpack-kit.htm

I know a few people with this one and are very happy with it. Stay away from the Carbon blades though.

[Sieg]

Dito w/ GotBlueMilk.com has a DJI-550 six rotor capable of " a few thousand feet, though FAA says don't go above 400'."

http://www.senmais.com/wp-content/uploads/dronelugo.jpg

When I was talking with the drone photog at OUSCI I asked him how much he had his QuadCopter and equipment insured for...........$23,000.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-rrtvpmM/1/XL/i-rrtvpmM-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DrcF3Tj/1/X2/i-DrcF3Tj-X2.jpg

[BMR Sales]

How far (high) can one of these quadcopters get away from the controller and still be "controlled" and what happens to them when they get too far away?

A Friend of mine got one a couple months ago - it has an Auto Return if it gets too far away, loses the Signal from the Controller or if the Battery Pack starts running Low. It's pretty cool!

[rickpaw]

How far (high) can one of these quadcopters get away from the controller and still be "controlled" and what happens to them when they get too far away?

It can be quite far, as some pointed out. But you can only fly it when you can see it.

Buddy of mine flying a C-130 in IRAQ was at 5000' and hit a small UAV (Drone). It took out the number 2 engine and the damage to the wing was insane. He said that had it hit between #1 and #2 there was a real chance it could have brought the Herc down. People seem to understand that birds can bring airplanes down (Sully on the Hudson ring a bell), but they get so excited about these small drones they don't realize how much damage they can do.

400!? :twak:

Good thing nothing bad happened to your friend.

I stand corrected on the 400' ceiling rule. Actually if you're flying within 3 miles of an airport, then you have to be under 400'. In real world, at 400' the craft becomes so small that you'll start losing your orientation (that return to home feature becomes handy). I used to fly r/c airplanes and usually flew well below 400'.

[rickpaw]

Dito w/ GotBlueMilk.com has a DJI-550 six rotor capable of " a few thousand feet, though FAA says don't go above 400'."

http://www.senmais.com/wp-content/uploads/dronelugo.jpg

When I was talking with the drone photog at OUSCI I asked him how much he had his QuadCopter and equipment insured for...........$23,000.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-rrtvpmM/1/XL/i-rrtvpmM-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DrcF3Tj/1/X2/i-DrcF3Tj-X2.jpg

I hope he has FAA waiver for using the copter for "commercial" purpose, unless he does it at OUSI for free. As a former R/C airplane flyer (thinking about getting back in), I've been staying up to date to recent FAA ruling regarding model aircraft, and certainly don't want the Feds regulate a hobby.

[Sieg]

I hope he has FAA waiver for using the copter for "commercial" purpose, unless he does it at OUSI for free. As a former R/C airplane flyer (thinking about getting back in), I've been staying up to date to recent FAA ruling regarding model aircraft, and certainly don't want the Feds regulate a hobby.

I believe he was working for or contracted by MAVtv so I'll assume his paperwork is in order.

[Sieg]

Ummm.....been there, gone, home having breakfast kinda thing. You go ahead and wait out there for me though. :knock:

Practice!!!!

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