Need Front suspension advice for my 68 camaro

[Bmf5150]

My car is a 1968 camaro with a LS motor. I'm looking for more modern sports car handling yet with better ride quality than a 68 camaro leaf spring.. I mainly street drive the car and occasionally take to the track for 1/4 mile drag race.. I'm looking at the DSE front speed kit 2 and there four link, or my other option is the ridetech coil over system level two ..do any of you guys have experience with either of theses setups or opinion on which would be a better setup??thanks for your advice..
stan

[coolwelder62]

Both the Ride Tech & DSE system's are out standing.The ride tech tru-turn works great and allows a 10 wide wheel up frt.Can't go wrong with either system.

[ADiCarlo]

I've got the quadralink in my car and the system is very well designed. Can you weld well enough to install structural components such as a 4 link.

[Bmf5150]

Thank you for the advice guys.. Yes I have access to a welder who can do it for me .. Even if I go ridetech in would weld it in.. Guess I don't trust bolt in lol.. I was curious which of the two would be a better handling setup

[Sieg]

Have you factored complexity/expense of installation?

One system appears to require much more installation commitment than the other.
Regarding "best handling system" the key word is system. What's up front? Will the front suspension handicap the rear?

How much "handling" does your typical usage of the car require?

Installing a single adjustable shock on one system and a triple adjustable on the other will make that system handle better than the other IMO.

Exhaust routing options for each system?

It's a never ending game of factors. :D

[Rod P]

I think I answered this one on another forum... so I will cover it again...I have raced very hard for 4 (almost 5) years now and have tried several suspensions and built many of my own components along the way...I use RideTech and now have started working for them, and before you say well of course he will say RideTech...I will because it works, because they test it, because they are in a state of constant test and refinement, one of the BIG reasons I decided to work for them and IF a simple example is needed...this very weekend our engineer (not a hired HotShoe) was the fastest car in autocross at the Optima event in Daytona taking on all comers, in our 48 Camaro shop car

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll162/rustycamaro/ridetech/10338729_656822881063924_5326312099997277955_n_zps 1202799f.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/rustycamaro/media/ridetech/10338729_656822881063924_5326312099997277955_n_zps 1202799f.jpg.html)

[Bmf5150]

Sieg,yes what ever I use in the rear of the car I will use the matching front components.. Yes the DSE is far more complicated of an install!!

[Bmf5150]

Thank you Ron, for the info.. I'm leaning towards ridetech, easier install...I don't plan on racing my car but I do want more modern sports car handling and I will occasionally take it to the drag strip..

[BMR Sales]

We have a Torque Arm Kit with CoilOvers & Watts Link - all Bolt-On

T.C.

[Jr]

I think I answered this one on another forum... so I will cover it again...I have raced very hard for 4 (almost 5) years now and have tried several suspensions and built many of my own components along the way...I use RideTech and now have started working for them, and before you say well of course he will say RideTech...I will because it works, because they test it, because they are in a state of constant test and refinement, one of the BIG reasons I decided to work for them and IF a simple example is needed...this very weekend our engineer (not a hired HotShoe) was the fastest car in autocross at the Optima event in Daytona taking on all comers, in our 48 Camaro shop car

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll162/rustycamaro/ridetech/10338729_656822881063924_5326312099997277955_n_zps 1202799f.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/rustycamaro/media/ridetech/10338729_656822881063924_5326312099997277955_n_zps 1202799f.jpg.html)

Where can we find more about that rear wing?

[Bad94]

Where can we find more about that rear wing?

Its custom made.

[marolf101x]

The rear wing was hand built in our body shop:
http://www.ridetech.com/48hourcamaro/

[Bmf5150]

Bmr, looks like you have a nice setup .. I'm just not a fan of the cage around the rear end for my car..

[Dipped]

I cant comment on the BMR however I have the Chassisworks G-Link in my 68 and its been nothing but awesome. Its far superior to the DSE. Chris Austin is an engineer. DSE are marketing people. IMO again IMO. You can fine plenty of info on all three systems on here.

[rickpaw]

DSE are marketing people. IMO again IMO. You can fine plenty of info on all three systems on here.

I believe Kyle and Stacey @ DSE were former GM suspension engineers.

On paper, the DSE will be the most complicated to install, compared to Ridetech/others.

[ADiCarlo]

Straight off the BFGoodrich Racing site:

Kyle Tucker was an engineer in Detroit before heading south to open Detroit Speed and Engineering with his wife Stacy. The pair set up shop in the heart of stock car racing country where they design, fabricate and install modern engineering for classic muscle cars.


Kyle is the co-owner of Detroit Speed and Engineering (DSE) with wife Stacy
Former General Motors suspension engineer
2012 SCORE Baja 1000 Class Winner with Team BFG
2010 3rd place Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational
2009 1st place Goodguys Nationals Autocross, the 3rd consecutive vendor autocross trophy for DSE
2008 4 out of 5 “Street Machine of the Year” finalists chose DSE suspension parts for their vehicles


I think it's safe to say that all the current systems come from a pedigree of well trained, experienced, and tested designers.

We're not buying Chinese coil overs for our rice rockets here...

[JKnight]

...I have the Chassisworks G-Link in my 68 and its been nothing but awesome. Its far superior to the DSE. Chris Austin is an engineer. DSE are marketing people. IMO again IMO. You can fine plenty of info on all three systems on here.

Appreciated that this is your opinion. I have more Alston parts on my car than DSE and I would run the G-link tomorrow, but your opinion is not going to be widely shared. The DSE quadralink is a very robust design, but it is a more complex installation. This is likely because they weren't willing to make the same packaging compromises that CA was.

Every part I get from DSE just oozes quality. I don't think a marketing company could pull that off.

[Bmf5150]

So is the DSE a better handling than the ridetech ??any opinions there?

[ADiCarlo]

So is the DSE a better handling than the ridetech ??any opinions there?

He just asked the question that should never be asked...

Lol I'm just kidding but that's like asking for a fire fight. Each have there pro's and con's I honestly suggest that you should make friends with people who have the system installed and see if you personally like the way it drives.

[Bmf5150]

Lol I hear ya, hard to get an opinion

[Rod P]

So is the DSE a better handling than the ridetech ??any opinions there?

I will say from the inside of the industry, what I see......without one there isn't the other



He just asked the question that should never be asked...



ha ha ha ha ha ha:lmao: Were really are friends, we race against each other because were competitive, we would race shopping carts in Wall-mart :D if there was a prize to be had....Hell Kyle just bought me breakfast (coffee and Bagels) when we were both in Del Mar California racing goodguys

[Pete68]

If you want a modern sports car handling sell your car and get a modern sports car. In order to make these cars really handle you need to be a chassis engineer and spend 10's of thousands of dollars on the chassis and suspension. Anyone who tells you otherwise has not driven a modern sports car...and no, the wives Hemi Charger does not count : )

I dont think people realize how bad these 50 year old chassis really are.

My advice is to make a cool looking cruiser and buy a used modern sports car! ; )

[BMR Sales]

Bmr, looks like you have a nice setup .. I'm just not a fan of the cage around the rear end for my car..

We've changed the angles that the "Pretzel Tubes" come up to the rear end. On 10 & 12 Bolt systems, these attach to a "Sandwich Plate" used on the Rear End cover. Our 9" Kits attach completely different to the Housing