BluePrint Engine company

[DBasher]

Looking over options and don't know anything about this company. Sold through Jegs and priced a lot lower than some of the familiar names....Good? Bad?

Goal is 400hp +/- and will be going in the wife's Mustang with an automatic behind it.

Thanks
Dan

[GregWeld]

Looking over options and don't know anything about this company. Sold through Jegs and priced a lot lower than some of the familiar names....Good? Bad?

Goal is 400hp +/- and will be going in the wife's Mustang with an automatic behind it.

Thanks
Dan




I have people right here Dan -- where you can have a sit down discussion about what you want and how you want it... and you can have fun being a part of the process... and if you want to - run it on the dyno right there.

Yeah it's probably a little bit more - but that depends on the parts you're going to go with. Rick has built 3 engines for me and they're flawless! Best trouble free bad ass motors I've ever owned. Built the stroker blower motor in Rudy's '69... and that motor is awesome. Custom built for how THEY want to use their car.

Crate motors are less money... "normally".

[Sieg]

This one Dan?

BP3060CT Crate Engine, Long Block, Ford Windsor, 5.0/302, Bored 0.030 Over, 306 C.I.D. 390HP, Base Crate Engine.

Summit also sells it at $3500 shipped. My thinking - Either one of those companies probably wouldn't be selling BluePrint if they've had excessive problems with their products and I'd imagine at that price point they'd turn more than a few of them.

[DBasher]

That's one of em Sieg, also looking at the rotating assemblies and heads and and and...All I know for sure at this point is the power I'd like to have. I've got a complete 302 out of a 91, just not sure if I want to have it gone through locally or just pop for a "crate" motor.
Greg, it may be a good idea to go and talk with someone who's recommended and trusted. My deal is I don't know enough...I do know Rudy's motor pulls like a FRICKIN freight train! Once I get this motor apart maybe I'll have your guy inspect it and start the conversation.

Does he do LS motors:peepwall:

Dan

[GregWeld]

Dan ---

My parts from Wilwood arrive tomorrow - and if I can get 'er done I'll roll out of here tomorrow afternoon..

When you're headed EAST out of Redmond on 202 -- Turn RIGHT on Sahalee Way -- at the big outdoor garden shop... you're just going up the hill and there's a CRANKSHAFT for a mailbox post... on your right -- roll up that driveway and you'll see the shop... just go in - they already know you've rolled up the driveway -- Jim will have a smoke hanging out of his mouth --- and RICK is the engine builder you want to talk to. Tell them you're a friend of mine -- then hold out your hands flat on a table and wait for them to be smacked with a ball peen.

[DBasher]

Thanks Greg, I'll be in Sammamish this week working so that'll work out well. Not looking forward to the hammer...guess that's the price I pay for knowing you!

East bound an down! 10-4, rubber ducky and all that trucker stuff!

Dan

[GregWeld]

Thanks Greg, I'll be in Sammamish this week working so that'll work out well. Not looking forward to the hammer...guess that's the price I pay for knowing you!

East bound an down! 10-4, rubber ducky and all that trucker stuff!

Dan



Four Rodger Dee big brother!


By the way -- just asking to make a horsepower number doesn't really ever work out well if that's the ONLY criteria when building a motor. WHERE do you want to make that horsepower and where / when do you want to TORQUE to come into play are better real world criteria.

Know the cars weight - know the rear end gearing you PLAN to use - know the transmission... and tire diameters. How do you want to use the car... Daily driver super docile purr like a kitten - idling in stop and go traffic --- or sporty bad boy driven occasionally at a track. Or something in between. Ya need to really KNOW what you want in the engine manners department.... The HP number will be what it will be... and isn't nearly as important as the manners and use.

I get where you're going with that number -- you're really saying -- fairly mild streetable - my wife is going to drive it but it's still going into a hot rod.

[BluePrint Engines]

Looking over options and don't know anything about this company. Sold through Jegs and priced a lot lower than some of the familiar names....Good? Bad?

Goal is 400hp +/- and will be going in the wife's Mustang with an automatic behind it.

Thanks
Dan

Dan,

Let me know if you have any specific questions on one of our engines and I would be happy to help.

Thanks,

Andrew Obermeier
Product Specialist
BluePrint Engines

[DBasher]

I've got all my "targets" in mind as far as gearing, weight and use of the car I also hear what you're saying about the HP and TQ. I'll get in and talk with Rick and Jim and go from there.

Andrew thanks for the reply, nice to see you are part of this site. Because I have no clue about much of anything I'm looking for real world feedback on products before purchasing. I'll do some research and talk with Greg's "people" before I start moving forward on the motor.

Dan

[BluePrint Engines]

I've got all my "targets" in mind as far as gearing, weight and use of the car I also hear what you're saying about the HP and TQ. I'll get in and talk with Rick and Jim and go from there.

Andrew thanks for the reply, nice to see you are part of this site. Because I have no clue about much of anything I'm looking for real world feedback on products before purchasing. I'll do some research and talk with Greg's "people" before I start moving forward on the motor.

Dan

Dan,

That sounds great, if you have any questions after that please let me know and I would be more than happy to help you out!

Thanks,

Andrew Obermeier
Product Specialist
BluePrint Engines

[skooli]

Don't know if this helps, but we have BP 383 in my wife's Camaro. The one in this link:
http://www.blueprintengines.com/index.php/products/bp-gm-crate-engines-landing/gm-383-main/item/gm-383-engine-specs-bp38313ct1

We buttoned it up and have been driving it since March and so far so good. I'd like to put it on a chassis dyno to see what kind of numbers it's putting to the wheels.

[DBasher]

Thanks Brad. I'm sending the block and crank up to the machine shop to get checked out, still not sure which direction I'll end up going.

I've read both good and bad but I imagine that happens with every company. The last motor I had built for her old mustang pissed me off so bad I yanked it out, sold the car and let the motor rust in the front yard! HA! I've grown up a bit in the last 12 years, not much, but some.:D

Dan

[GregWeld]

The whole key to building a motor is to get the motor to be in harmony with it's intended use.

Most guys fall into the trap of "bigger more badderass"... and that's fine if a guy is drag racing...but not so fine if 98% of the time the car is going to fetch groceries and kids.

Over the years I've learned to really focus on the car/motor combination. Rudy was a prime example. They love to use the car - they cruise the car in every car show that has one... those are slow parade laps. A car with a huge rumpity cam and carbs that are too large - fouling spark plugs and just generally running nasty... NO THANKS.... They don't want to have to slide into neutral every time they come to a stop... they don't want to have to constantly "clear out" the motor.. So their motor sounds good and certainly sounds strong and loud... but it really purrs and the bottom end torque is what makes it fun... and that's all about the combination.

Large head ports are fun for bragging rights - but suck for bottom end torque... ditto big ass cams... or carbs that have no airflow (they work on airflow!) and feel sluggish and don't tune up well (they have poor signal). Get the COMBO right and you have a motor that is fun as hell - powerful where it needs to be - and you'll love driving the car.

That goes for regardless of who is building it or it's a crate motor.

Rick built the motor in the Nomad. Heavy 4000# car... 2800 stall convertor... 700r4 tranny - 3:70 rear - short tires. Intended use - long distance drives with the A/C blowing cold and the stereo thumping...

408 Cubic inch Dart Little M block - 8 stack EFI.... and the heads??? 180CC Dart's....

I'm like NO FRIGGIN WAY DUDE!!! Those heads belong on a 327.... UGH!

BEST MOTOR I'VE EVER HAD! Shook the windows and set off car alarms... set in traffic all day and never look at the gauge... 550 foot pounds of torque at 4600 RPMS.... Ran out of air at 5600 RPMS (525 HP is all). Guess where it spent most of it's time... CRUISING AROUND... stomp the pedal and light the tires - all in all done. I was on the streets! Not at the drag strip - no need for 7000 rpms... That motor had lots of miles on it - never once added a quart of oil... never changed the spark plugs... and it was a rocket. My point is - it was a perfect combo for THAT car.