My Lotus 2 Eleven

[GregWeld]

This isn't pro touring - but is certainly a "race car". Lotus specifically designed this car for "track days". Perfect! Because that's exactly what we do with 'em.



252 Horse power -- 180 ft pounds of TQ = Super charged 1.8 Toyota 2ZZ motor.

Weight is 1470 pounds.




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I was having real issues with the mirrors --- so I'm adding this nice little carbon fiber version I got from Pegasus Racing - via "Race Mirrors". I think it might weigh 4 ozs.




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[wiedemab]

Very cool car. I didn't realize it was that light!

[GregWeld]

Very cool car. I didn't realize it was that light!



Brandon -- this thing is nothing but THIN aluminum and some fiberglass body panels. That's Lotus entire history! LIGHTEN it until it breaks...


The reason this handles and brakes so well is because there's no mass. Don't need much power either when there's nothing to get going!

[LS7 Z/28]

I'm sure you have a lot of fun with that one Greg. You still enjoy the Mustang more? I'm sure they are totally different animals.

How do you like the Schroth Belts? I just bought a couple of the NASCAR SFI 16.5's and they seem to be great quality.

[GregWeld]

I'm sure you have a lot of fun with that one Greg. You still enjoy the Mustang more? I'm sure they are totally different animals.

How do you like the Schroth Belts? I just bought a couple of the NASCAR SFI 16.5's and they seem to be great quality.




Yeah Casey --- I still like the old skool Mustang... it's just loud and bad ass.... but the Lotus is SO EASY to drive -- that's it's fun in a different way. The Lotus is faster.... more nimble - way better brakes.

I never notice the harness in either car - Schroth in the Lotus and Crow in the Mustang... I just get in, sit down, and buckle up....

I did just order PULL UP style lap belts for the Mustang - since they were incorrect for the car - being Pull DOWN.... made it real hard to get 'em tight. The Lotus has pull UP lap belts. Big difference. Have to thank Ron Sutton for pointing that little tidbit out!

[LS7 Z/28]

Yeah Casey --- I still like the old skool Mustang... it's just loud and bad ass.... but the Lotus is SO EASY to drive -- that's it's fun in a different way. The Lotus is faster.... more nimble - way better brakes.

I never notice the harness in either car - Schroth in the Lotus and Crow in the Mustang... I just get in, sit down, and buckle up....

I did just order PULL UP style lap belts for the Mustang - since they were incorrect for the car - being Pull DOWN.... made it real hard to get 'em tight. The Lotus has pull UP lap belts. Big difference. Have to thank Ron Sutton for pointing that little tidbit out!

What is the weight balance on that thing? Is it rear engine. It looks like a blast, like a big go kart. Most people don't seem to understand how important power to weight is, they just keep adding power.

Yeah I'm not sure why a manufacturer would even make pull down style for the lap, shoulder yes obviously pull down style but not for the lap.

[GregWeld]

What is the weight balance on that thing? Is it rear engine. It looks like a blast, like a big go kart. Most people don't seem to understand how important power to weight is, they just keep adding power.

Yeah I'm not sure why a manufacturer would even make pull down style for the lap, shoulder yes obviously pull down style but not for the lap.




63% of the weight is in the rear.... So snap oversteer is always in the back of a guys mind. It does run a staggered tire - but you still have to be mindful of that rear weight bias.

It has good aero - the body is (NOW) set up with a 10MM rake to the nose... and the wing is set at max downforce.

Here's what I remind people when they see the two cars together - and invariably ask - How much horse power does that "thing" have...

When their shoulders slump after hearing 252....

I point out the Mustang weighs 3015 # and has 4 speed and 590 HP.... BUT the lowly Lotus only weighs 1470 and has 252 and a 6 speed... and you're not trying to push a brick thru the air.

I have now followed (or been in front of) many different cars on the track... if you're carrying any speed at all -- the little Lotus will blow by most of them. It's only if you end up with low RPM's and need some torque that the little 1.8 liter motor just won't cut it... but it's not a problem - 'cause you just catch them at the next corner by out braking 'em. HAHAHAHAHA

[GregWeld]

Here it is naked Casey....


There's nothing to it. A square aluminum box with some A arms attached to it. LOL

The body panels are just that - panels - they're not structural at all.






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[CamaroMike]

Yup pretty much a big boys go cart, thats all you need on a racetrack!

[LS7 Z/28]

When their shoulders slump after hearing 252....

I point out the Mustang weighs 3015 # and has 4 speed and 590 HP.... BUT the lowly Lotus only weighs 1470 and has 252 and a 6 speed... and you're not trying to push a brick thru the air.

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That thing is damn cool Greg. I love the lightweight stuff and 252 HP is solid for something that weighs as much as one corner of some cars.

I'd really like to build a Racecar Replicas SLC. As you know its along the same lines as this beast. Light race parts.

Better 63% Rear than front...

[Sieg]

That thing is damn cool Greg. I love the lightweight stuff and 252 HP is solid for something that weighs as much as one corner of some cars.

I'd really like to build a Racecar Replicas SLC. As you know its along the same lines as this beast. Light race parts.

Better 63% Rear than front...
The car is too much fun on the track. The only downside is most the cars you run with brake earlier and don't carry as much corner speed but have enough horsepower to make overtaking difficult in the passing zones so it's tough to get the pleasure of a "clean" lap.

Greg's 252 hp may be slightly understated as the exhaust has be upgraded.....that said another 25-30 hp would make the car a force to be reckoned with at the average track day considering you can brake so late it makes you giggle like a little girl. :D

[Flash68]

The car is too much fun on the track. The only downside is most the cars you run with brake earlier and don't carry as much corner speed but have enough horsepower to make overtaking difficult in the passing zones so it's tough to get the pleasure of a "clean" lap.



I was waiting for the first excuse from you. :computer:

[Sieg]

I was waiting for the first excuse from you. :computer:

Whatever Cheeseball. :flashie:

[Vegas69]

Isn't there a limit for the number of active threads one member can have?:D

[Sieg]

Isn't there a limit for the number of active threads one member can have?:D
Technically no, but if there was it would likely be a ratio factored against total posts so in this situation non-compliance is doubtful. :D

[GregWeld]

Isn't there a limit for the number of active threads one member can have?:D




If I didn't post and start new threads.... what would you have to do at night?

LOL

[DBasher]

Did you get your arm restraints?

[Ron Sutton]

I got Greg some arm restraints for the Lotus.

[Sieg]

I got Greg some arm restraints for the Lotus.

:sieg: Why not Duct tape? Works great in the Toterhome.

[DBasher]

Hmmmm, might be too much info Sieg.
Time to close the sharing window.....

[GregWeld]

Did you get your arm restraints?



I just can't really add anything more to this conversation.... :disgusted:

[clill]

That will be the day when you finally shut up. I dare ya.

[GregWeld]

That will be the day when you finally shut up. I dare ya.




Not happening ---- you'd be bored and have nothing to read.

[Sieg]

That will be the day when you finally shut up. I dare ya.

Not happening ---- you'd be bored and have nothing to read.

..........:D

[Panteracer]

Not bad for a track car although
my buddies Lola Can am car weighs 1280
and has 688 hp... I watched him burn rubber
all the way down pit road one event after
coming in to have me look at a problem
boy was he pissed

But a lot more of a pain to maintain etc

Panteracer

[GregWeld]

Not bad for a track car although
my buddies Lola Can am car weighs 1280
and has 688 hp... I watched him burn rubber
all the way down pit road one event after
coming in to have me look at a problem
boy was he pissed

But a lot more of a pain to maintain etc

Panteracer



The Lotus doesn't use up tires - doesn't drink gas - fires up every time - and just goes out and runs around like it's nothing. It's not very kool... but when you're driving it - you really don't care. It's a hoot.

BTW -- I'd be dangerous with more horsepower.... so not adding any to any of my stuff!

[Panteracer]

The can am car is always broken
Shakes everything off it
Plus really need 3 people to run it

I like simple but I love horsepower

Panteracer