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vilzrod
05-15-2014, 10:27 PM
While doin up my my 70 Cuda I noticed a few almost invisible blisters... I 50 gritted down to find some brass... while I was at it I wanted to deal with the infamous Ebody quarter panel seem that was almost invisible but I saw it. Im told the ONLy proper way is to Tig weld the seam and LEAD it
Since I'm doing a color change I thought this is the time to fix this stuff.... Why did they use brass? wouldn't that be considered butcher?
Vince@Meanstreets
05-15-2014, 10:42 PM
no, not butcher....thats old school fixin....low melting point and safer than lead. Unless your doing a concour restoration you could make a filler piece to fill the gaps and tig it in.
vilzrod
05-15-2014, 10:57 PM
no, not butcher....thats old school fixin....low melting point and safer than lead. Unless your doing a concour restoration you could make a filler piece to fill the gaps and tig it in.
ok fair enough... I assume the best fix for the round area around the windows is to cut it out and weld a new piece in ?.. ill pull the glass first The brass was welded in in 2005 so it lasted a little while
Vince@Meanstreets
05-15-2014, 11:40 PM
Yep, cut it out and make a new section. Other than buying a full quarter you'll have to make the filler piece.
to be fair, the fact that there was abit more filler material makes it a quickie job but not a hack. Hack would be fiberglass and mesh material. Bronze is a nice material to work with in some situations.
vilzrod
05-16-2014, 07:15 AM
Yep, cut it out and make a new section. Other than buying a full quarter you'll have to make the filler piece.
to be fair, the fact that there was abit more filler material makes it a quickie job but not a hack. Hack would be fiberglass and mesh material. Bronze is a nice material to work with in some situations.
I appreciate you reply and expertise.... I just wonder why someone would not simply cut it out to begin with when the new quarter were welded in as these quarters have a stitch weld from the top of the tailights to the doors..
The car is quite straight Im going to finetune it (sharpen up the bodylines) and clean up the areas I showed you. I also tig welded the all the old moulding holes up relocated the truck lock and filled in the reflectors here some pics :
The the car was completely blasted when it was painted red as you see it has only a few layers ,skimcoat, primer paint a fantastic base i think with no need to strip this car in my mind unnecessary and unwarranted.
Vince@Meanstreets
05-16-2014, 12:31 PM
quarters were hard to come by. probably all they had at the time.
its gonna be nicer now.
vilzrod
05-18-2014, 05:36 PM
quarters were hard to come by. probably all they had at the time.
its gonna be nicer now.
I think your correct Vince this work was done in 2003 and I think back then they had very little or maybe even nil when it came to mopar metal like AMD available.... On the seam portion should I have a piece welded in to fill the seam or weld the seam and fill the impression with lead.. (a 30 yr lead body man will do the leadpart) ??
Vince@Meanstreets
05-18-2014, 07:51 PM
I think your correct Vince this work was done in 2003 and I think back then they had very little or maybe even nil when it came to mopar metal like AMD available.... On the seam portion should I have a piece welded in to fill the seam or weld the seam and fill the impression with lead.. (a 30 yr lead body man will do the leadpart) ??
In my opinion you should get rid of the lead if you have a chance. After time it will show under paint.
Trim a piece of 18g to fill the gap. Tig it in. Wear throw away clothes and try to melt most of the lead away. that is stuff you don't need breathing or tracking home on your shoes and clothing.
vilzrod
05-18-2014, 08:58 PM
In my opinion you should get rid of the lead if you have a chance. After time it will show under paint.
Trim a piece of 18g to fill the gap. Tig it in. Wear throw away clothes and try to melt most of the lead away. that is stuff you don't need breathing or tracking home on your shoes and clothing.
Vince..... do you really think much lead was even left after they blasted the car as the whole seam was filled with filler ..Again very strange they never welded in a strip minimizing the thickness of filler... Then there is dummy me grinding away not even thinking but I had a mask on
I guess i'm being an armchair bodyman..however I like the idea of tig welding in a strip and making it flush as possible... thx again
rjsjea
05-20-2014, 09:21 AM
Sand/media blasting wont remove the lead. Since you have it exposed, I agree with Vince, make a patch and weld it in.
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