USCA at Laguna Seca- Who's going?

[CrossRamRich]

Hi Guy's,
Just wanted to see if we have anyone going/participating at this event. Looking forward to seeing/meeting you. Sounds like a fun weekend. See you there, Rich :thankyou:

[Rod P]

Ill be there, but I already know you Richy, :rofl:

[glassman]

I will be there as a spectator.....but i'm bringing the Camaro "just in case" lol

[Flash68]

Looking for a car to rent ... any takers? :unibrow:

[Matt@BOS]

Looking for a car to rent ... any takers? :unibrow:

You provide the tires and "trackside insurance" and I've got something. :)

[GregWeld]

Looking for a car to rent ... any takers? :unibrow:



Mine don't have windshield wipers or headlights... But I will be there.






Come to think of it - that makes 'em sound like they were built by Steve Frisbee Auto Restorations... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[DBasher]

I'm in, flying in Friday and driving home Sunday night. I'll be hanging out with a big blue Charger, going to be a hoot!

:cheers:
Dan

[califconstruct]

Looking for a car to rent ... any takers? :unibrow:

You can probably get Rich to set you up on that Bug he just finished! :lmao:


It should be a good event! See you guys there!
Given the up coming weather pattern, hopefully mother nature holds off a bit.

[73CPCAMARO]

Mine don't have windshield wipers or headlights... But I will be there.






Come to think of it - that makes 'em sound like they were built by Steve Frisbee Auto Restorations... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Greg,

You will need to keep an eye on my car in your trailer....not availble for rent :lol:

Brian

[Flash68]

You provide the tires and "trackside insurance" and I've got something. :)

We'll be talking.... :walkingdog:

You can probably get Rich to set you up on that Bug he just finished! :lmao:




I can't think of anything I'd rather NOT drive there (or anywhere) than a Bug. :lol:

Greg,

You will need to keep an eye on my car in your trailer....not availble for rent :lol:

Brian

:secret:

[Panteracer]

We used to have a guy run a highly modified Bug
in Norcal Scca... it was mostly Porsche motor...
He drove the wheels off that thing and often would
set Top Time of the Day

Took the Firebird out for a run last weekend to see
if it may be ready for the event... motor seems to be
keeping all the pushrods where they are suppose to be
but the 12 bolt just ate the clutches after 26 years of
abuse

Panteracer Norcal Bob

[glassman]

We used to have a guy run a highly modified Bug
in Norcal Scca... it was mostly Porsche motor...
He drove the wheels off that thing and often would
set Top Time of the Day

Took the Firebird out for a run last weekend to see
if it may be ready for the event... motor seems to be
keeping all the pushrods where they are suppose to be
but the 12 bolt just ate the clutches after 26 years of
abuse

Panteracer Norcal Bob

Nine inch next?????

[GregWeld]

Greg,

You will need to keep an eye on my car in your trailer....not availble for rent :lol:

Brian



Brian -- As you know - Fuel is very expensive... I'm on my last nickel. What's a buddy to do??


LOL


Loved this post. What a hoot!

[Panteracer]

Not sure many would want to drive Bryan's
car because they could never drive it the way he does

Although Dad can run it pretty damn good:)

Panteracer NorCal Bob

[GregWeld]

Not sure many would want to drive Bryan's
car because they could never drive it the way he does

Although Dad can run it pretty damn good:)

Panteracer NorCal Bob



I timed Brian once at El Toro -- 3 runs -- within 1/10th of a second of each other.


He's okay I guess.

[clinkster]

stupid question for ya all. I saw the pit pass for 20 ea. does anyone know what the fees are to get in laguna? im only going to spectate. thx!

[GregWeld]

stupid question for ya all. I saw the pit pass for 20 ea. does anyone know what the fees are to get in laguna? im only going to spectate. thx!



Not stupid...


There are no fees to get into or on to the grounds -- so you're $20 is all it's going to take.

[clinkster]

awesome thx! booked my room!

[Black93GT]

Might just have to pop in for a day.

[mdprovee]

Would love to go, but another race is that same weekend. Pinewood Derby for my boys!! You guys have fun.

[CrossRamRich]

We will be there in "Livewire". Be there for Rally and Design and Engineering portion. Oh and the after party! :cheers:

[CrossRamRich]

I know its last minute but anyone going through Gilroy headed to the Rally, if you would like to meet at my shop for coffee and cruise in together to Laguna Seca, give me a call. 14087105988. Yes Todd, I said COFFEE! Anyway, just checkin.:cheers:

[glassman]

Saturday? What time? i'm headin down early from livermore, i[m thinkiing gilroy 7 715 ish as i was hopin to get to Laguna 8ish,,,,,,

[CrossRamRich]

Saturday? What time? i'm headin down early from livermore, i[m thinkiing gilroy 7 715 ish as i was hopin to get to Laguna 8ish,,,,,,

Friday, we will be leaving Gilroy at 8, having breakfast at 9 in Seaside, at Laguna Seca at 10. Still playin Saturday by ear. :)

[GregWeld]

I know its last minute but anyone going through Gilroy headed to the Rally, if you would like to meet at my shop for coffee and cruise in together to Laguna Seca, give me a call. 14087105988. Yes Todd, I said COFFEE! Anyway, just checkin.:cheers:




Stupid of me! I'm sitting over here at the garlic farm tonight! Forgot you're down here!!


Drove the '33 down to Marina to hit best buy and get a Tom Tom for it. I coulda cruised to the shop!


By the way..... WTF is with California?? There must be 10 people living in the GD bushes over here!

[Ron in SoCal]

By the way..... WTF is with California?? There must be 10 people living in the GD bushes over here!

Is that a rhetorical question?

[glassman]

Stupid of me! I'm sitting over here at the garlic farm tonight! Forgot you're down here!!


Drove the '33 down to Marina to hit best buy and get a Tom Tom for it. I coulda cruised to the shop!


By the way..... WTF is with California?? There must be 10 people living in the GD bushes over here!

Ahhh the entitlement species. Yes, the weather is good enough for you to live in a cardboard box!!! No rent, no lawn mowing, no work, ahhhh live is good, but a little hungary and a little cold....lol

[Vegas69]

I know its last minute but anyone going through Gilroy headed to the Rally, if you would like to meet at my shop for coffee and cruise in together to Laguna Seca, give me a call. 14087105988. Yes Todd, I said COFFEE! Anyway, just checkin.:cheers:

What in the hell...

[CrossRamRich]

Stupid of me! I'm sitting over here at the garlic farm tonight! Forgot you're down here!!


Drove the '33 down to Marina to hit best buy and get a Tom Tom for it. I coulda cruised to the shop!


By the way..... WTF is with California?? There must be 10 people living in the GD bushes over here!

Hey easy, one of those bushes might be mine someday! You are 1000 feet from my shop, you could have stopped by. I was there till 8:30 last night. I will swing by the farm in the morning to see if you are around.

[FETorino]

This thread is very quiet...... Like the cars at the event.:underchair:

[Sieg]

This thread is very quiet...... Like the cars at the event.:underchair:

The Finalist:

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[DBasher]

That 69 is no joke, very unassuming without all the PT bling. Sure the mufflers look kinda goofy but the old man wheels the snot outta that thing!

The Fairmont is parked next to us and is also built well. Big stroker motor and some decent mustang suspension under it. I think Maier is quickest on the auto-x in the over 3k lbs class with a low 27.xxx run. That lil Fairmont is only two seconds off and the guys having a blast!

Danny Popp is fabbing up some exhaust for tomorrow. 2 strikes against him, 3rd strike puts him on the trailer. I would've thought he would be better prepared.

This is a great event that's being ran pretty well. We'll see what happens tomorrow when we get put on the big track.

:cheers:
Dan

[GregWeld]

Just left Danny's garage which is opposite my trailer -- and Larry Woo is there too --- they spent all manor of time fabing up exhaust mods. Very "creative" is an understatement...


Re the comment about DP being better prepared -- it's a Lingenfelter car - not Dannys... THEY do (or don't do) the prep. Give him credit for laying under the car until 10 O'clock making an attempt to save the weekend.


The GREEN '69 is WOT at 88 db.... stock suspension and is 28ish on the auto X.
That's called DRIVER SKILLS -- not lots of fancy parts... Stamped steel A arms - leaf springs. He's probably laughing his ass off at all your fancy pants cars running 30's. Nuff said.



Not sure what I personally expected out of the weekend -- but it's beating whatever those expectations where. Good group of folks here - having a great time - weather is dang near perfect... (could be a bit warmer)... Good vendor displays... Snap On - Baer - Willwood - Fox Shocks - Sampson Racing Communications (I bought a full driver to passenger intercom from him)... BF Goodrich etc.... with techs that actually are helpful. The school (conversation) I went to today on rebound settings and springs with the engineer from Fox was nothing short of amazing.


I get the sense that people are beginning to understand they have the potential to mess their cars up on the big track -- and are starting to take the attitude of -- "I think I'll just try to enjoy myself / there's nothing to win"... is spreading through the paddock. That's probably a good thing.

[Sieg]

That 69 is no joke, very unassuming without all the PT bling. Sure the mufflers look kinda goofy but the old man wheels the snot outta that thing!

The Fairmont is parked next to us and is also built well. Big stroker motor and some decent mustang suspension under it. I think Maier is quickest on the auto-x in the over 3k lbs class with a low 27.xxx run. That lil Fairmont is only two seconds off and the guys having a blast!

:cheers:
Dan

Dan,

The post was kind of an inside joke, but my picks were based on they had the potential to be quiet enough because.......to finish first you must first finish, and it appears the most feared competitor at the event may well be the db meter. :D

[DBasher]

Credit given to anyone that actually shows up and wheels these cars. :thumbsup:

Greg we looked at the bridge on the way out...which Z? It says Mazda on it twice, we're screwed!

Dan

[DBasher]

Sieg I gotcha. Trust me, we've got plenty of inside jokes about all the Camaro snobs! :underchair:

I can't say anything about the pinto, guys having fun and getting a ton of attention. I saw Mary P riding with him in the auto-x, that's got to be pretty cool.

Dan

[Sieg]

Credit given to anyone that actually shows up and wheels these cars. :thumbsup:

Greg we looked at the bridge on the way out...which Z? It says Mazda on it twice, we're screwed!

Dan

The one on the left is the pit lane :D

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[DBasher]

Haha, well that makes sense! Quite a bit of "pointers" from guys that have ran the track, all good stuff.

Greg had said something about the Z and as we drove out we were all laughing about the two Mazda signs. It's gonna be a hoot tomorrow!

[Damn True]

Gorgeous day down there. Had a chance to touch base with some folks I'd "known" for years but never met.

[Sieg]

It's real easy to get to far left and catch the curbing of T1. Not too bad in a car, on a bike it's not much fun. :confused59: Find visual references on the bridge and one beyond the crest that works for you and you'll have the confidence to stay on the gas over the crest vs. lifting slightly.

[LM7_67]

Keeping my foot down all the way through the crest is one of the most unnerving/rewarding things I've ever been able to do....

[Sieg]

Keeping my foot down all the way through the crest is one of the most unnerving/rewarding things I've ever been able to do....
It took about 10 laps for me on the bike. I was cussing myself out every lift after the 3rd one. :D Once you do it's awesome for a split second and then you realized how much speed you're carrying into the hairpin! :confused59:

[DBasher]

This Is Awesome!!!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

there has to be more pictures on this event somewhere

[Sieg]

This Is Awesome!!!

Like Button pressed :thumbsup:

[LM7_67]

It took about 10 laps for me on the bike. I was cussing myself out every lift after the 3rd one. :D Once you do it's awesome for a split second and then you realized how much speed you're carrying into the hairpin! :confused59:
And it's all downhill into it! :hairpullout:

[craig510]

Have the results been posted anywhere?

[Flash68]

Have the results been posted anywhere?

Some facebook chatter.

Mike Maier overall winner.

1980 Fairmont is Spirit of the Event winner.

[Sieg]

And it's all downhill into it! :hairpullout:

Found that out on a bike cresting at 145ish with one skinny front tire and the bike is leaned in under braking.........major adrenaline rush! The MotoGP guys amaze me in that section as they're carrying 165+ over the crest.

I imagine there's a lot of guys that had a great time today just because they got to run a lot of laps on Laguna today. I heard 1400 total laps recorded today!

[CrossRamRich]

Awesome event! We had a blast. Very cool. All nice cars, great people. If you didn't go you missed out.

[GregWeld]

The event was fabulous.... Anyone that didn't attend - for whatever their reason... missed a great bunch of people... and really well run event... a great track -- and sound just wasn't as big a deal as everyone made it out to be. So now - to me - that is all just a big excuse rather than joining in and having a blast.


The road rally was beautiful --- then dinner and socializing at the Embassy Suite was provided.... then two great days of racing.


I'm actually still here at the track... shining my big rig lights on the OPTIMA truck so they can see to break it all down... then Vinnie (their driver) and I will head off together to Texas Motor Speedway and do it all over again.


SUCKS TO BE YOU IF YOU MISSED THIS EVENT!!! SERIOUSLY.

[Damn True]

For those of you who visited from out of state.... No, the weather isn't usually that good the first week of March.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

For those of you who visited from out of state.... No, the weather isn't usually that good the first week of March.

liar....lol you mean cool and over cast right.

love this shot.

[Panteracer]

I was surprised at how many runs everyone got on Saturday
You could really hone in on the autocross and stop box
92 db was just a little too far out for my cars.. I can barely
make a 105 day with my street exhaust and maybe 98 with
my Thunderhill exhaust

Well run event.. a lot of really nice guys/gals and cars...some really fast guys
I hope no one bent anything up on Sunday. I was working
on my Bird that day

Panteracer Norcal Bob

[DBasher]

What a kick ass event! If you've got one of these events close, I strongly suggest showing up and atleast watching. We had plenty of time to run as much as we wanted in each event. We could hot lap or pull back into the garage and make any changes needed. Great weather, tons of smiling faces and a bunch of rad cars!

Jimi, Cam, Dennis all the volunteers and course workers made this event what it was, fantastic! I'd drive another 16 hours next weekend if they'd do it again.

We did well in all the events improving each and every time out. We also learned a ton, like a 4k lb car needs more brakes! The charger survived and needs nothing more than a bath and some air in the tires.

To be able to watch Danny Popp FLYING down the hill after the corkscrew, the show that Mike Maier and Filip from Cortex put on, almost bumper to bumper and the smile on Chris's face every time he stepped out of that challenger...PRICELESS!

Looking forward to Portland in August!!

:thumbsup:
Dan

[GregWeld]

I'm sorry for those of you that stayed away because of the 92db sound "issue"... if you did -- you missed out because while some guys had to do some TEMPORARY stuff to their cars like putting screen over their tips - or adding a resonator - or whatever.... every "mod" I saw was the hackey motto special -- very temporary - and for the most part worked pretty well. Some didn't have to do anything.



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[Panteracer]

Not sure why Laguna is not offering 105 days
to any clubs this year.. they had 5 last year
and I along with many others finally got to
run their track last year.. guess I better keep
my video as that may be the only time

Its just not right for me to have to lift at
a certain place on the track and then wait
until you are past.. trust me most people that
run that track on a 90 or 92 or 96 day have to do
that in order to stay under or get booted

Its a fricking race track.. I can go to Firebird,
Pahrump and Reno Fernley and run 4" straight exhaust
like a real race car... love those 180's when they are
unrestricted!! Play with an unmuffled Nascar truck.. cool stuff

I crew for my buddy that has a vintage Can Am car and
they are talking about noise limits on them... that
is the thrill of going to watch them run..

I understand the limits are by the county but
like most racetracks that are not there any more
is Laguna on the list coming up??? Fremont, Riverside,
etc

Just venting one of the things that piss me off
I used to run straight expansion chambers on my
go karts and dirt bikes.. most of them sound like
lawn mowers now... How are the F1 cars going to
sound now with a turbo 6?

I'll get off my crate now and go work on my car
one of the things that settles me down:drowninga:

Panteracer Norcal Bob

[Flash68]

It's obviously not USCA's fault -- and they put on a fantastic show it sounds like -- but I could not agree more with you Bob about Laguna, lifting, noise, etc.

[Panteracer]

Optima did a great job
and after seeing how much time they gave
everyone to run I almost wish I would have
tried to comply with the sound limit.. but...
I was booted from Sears 4-5 years back
for having 104,105 and knowing where the
meter was... short shifting etc.. car was running
on 7 cylinders with an issue and still could not
make the sound

Its kinda like driving the car around the block
and wondering if the man is going to pop you
The track is where you are suppose to be able
to let it loose with no worries other than getting
over your head

Panteracer Norcal Bob

[Damn True]

It's not USCA's fault, nor even SCRAMP's.

You needn't look further than the fancy faux-italiano villa's that immediately surround the track. People that bought and built on property nestled between an airport and a race track....then promptly sued or pushed local legislation to restrict the operations at both. In short - douchebags.

Not unlike the lawyer who bought a house up the hill from Altamont Speedway, then buried the track in legal fees and frivolous suits until he forced them out of business.....then he built a moto-x track on his own property. Douchebag.

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[Panteracer]

Now I know what DB really stands for:)

We have a fellow Pantera Member who used to
race the Silver State many years back -(clocked at
246mph before he crashed) he bought in one of the
neighborhoods and built his shop.. lots of issued dealing
with everyone while building it... his neighbors hate him
We went over for a tour with our cars one day and his
kids were jumping dirt bikes in the front yard

The stories he tells about the rules etc
They passed a few for him in his neighborhood.. go figure

So yes I understand who

Panteracer Norcal Bob

[DBasher]

Can't stop the money train! Either adapt and get involved or watch it all go away. Money was paid to get the db level increased for this event, I'm sure more is paid when the historics run.

I'd be curious to know of the ten or so cars that had to adapt at the track, who is doing a more permanent fix?

Maybe we can all donate a tree to muffle the noise in the faster parts of the track:headscratch:....or some can just run a different exhaust.

Dan

[GregWeld]

I don't like it -- but I totally understand the nature of what happens around these tracks.... People move in near them -- then every weekend there's the "race" noise.


Eventually -- if they are lucky the track reaches a compromise to quiet things down... and we know that REAL race cars are not going to do that... so WE are the groups that can modify our cars. I get it. Don't have to like it but I get it.


I look at a track like Laguna Seca and marvel that it has survived. Owned and run by the county --- think of the property taxes it would generate if they put high end homes up in those hills... they'd generate revenue without nearly as much hassle.

In the meantime ---- if we want events and organizations to survive and grow --- we need to SUPPORT them not bitch about something none of us has any chance of changing. Otherwise -- when you stay away -- then it becomes another nail in the coffin -- no demand for events -- no demand for a track -- and they pave the SOB over and we have NOWHERE to go. Vote with you wallets -- learn to adapt and modify (that IS the essence of hot rodding) and join in ----- or don't bitch when you have nowhere or nobody is organizing anything for us. We're in the middle of no mans land -- we are not racers -- we're street cars.... with racing wannabes as drivers. No sanctioning body would have us... and we'd have to build to their specs instead of our rag tag bunch of car combinations.

[Sieg]

First off I love listening to raw exhaust scavenging as much as the next guy. I also understand the fatigue that loud exhaust have on drivers, thus why they all wear hearing protection. F1, MotoGP, and the other serious bar-raising performance classes need free flowing exhaust. But.....there are so many operators that want loud because it sounds fast and makes them think they're fast even though their vehicle isn't and never will be. They're the ones that create the negative perception.......the perceptions start on public roadways and neighborhoods and nurtures a stereotyped anti-noise culture. Very similar situation with off-road bikes and atv's.

Hopefully muffler engineers can bring new products to the marketplace that still sound great yet neutralize the retaliatory efforts of others. It's still the other idiots that never go to the track that will continue to create conflict. As long as there's products that will allow the vested track enthusiasts to carry on and deflect blame and not fuel the track closure movement all is good.

Technology has managed to silence jets, helicopters, and firearms as a few examples and still maintain reasonable performance, hopefully the aftermarket exhaust engineers can deliver as well. :thumbsup:

Now can anyone tell me why Harley's everywhere get diplomatic immunity? That's one issue that just flat ticks me off. The epitome of loud and slow. :sieg: