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Neil B
01-07-2014, 12:33 PM
Hey guys. I wanted to start a thread on my project for this year. I want to pull the original 302 in my car for detailing/re-sealing, so I figured I'd have a little fun with it during the process. I've got a 372ci small block that has been built like a 302 on steroids with 13.5:1 compression and a big solid roller. My plan is to put the 372 into the Camaro with an Auto Gear M23W transmission. I also plan to add a DSE power steering box and upgrade the stock seating and gauges. I won't be changing anything that can't easily be changed back. Here are a few pics. Updates to follow.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Good-1.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/NeilB_photos/media/Good-1.jpg.html)
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214Chevy
01-07-2014, 02:28 PM
Love the updated wheels. :thumbsup: Can we get a better pic in the sunlight?
lolife99
01-07-2014, 03:27 PM
What's the specs on the wheels and tires?
CHAZMO1986
01-07-2014, 03:31 PM
Very sweet ride man! Can't wait to see more and maybe a video of that nasty 372!!
Neil B
01-07-2014, 04:10 PM
Love the updated wheels. :thumbsup: Can we get a better pic in the sunlight?
18x8 and 19x9.5 Forgeline ZX3Rs. I've had them for a couple of years now.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Side-1.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/NeilB_photos/media/Side-1.jpg.html)
98ssnova
01-07-2014, 07:24 PM
I think I like the original wheels better. just my .02 also the new motor is going to be sick.
Che70velle
01-07-2014, 08:31 PM
Didn't see any wheels, but the Canfield headed small block sure is sweet!:poke:
Neil B
01-07-2014, 08:53 PM
I think I like the original wheels better. just my .02 also the new motor is going to be sick.
It's hard to beat the old Minilites. I haven't upgraded my brakes mainly because I still want to run the 15's from time to time.
waynieZ
01-07-2014, 10:41 PM
Very Nice!
Frankenstine
01-08-2014, 08:46 AM
WOW super nice car, liking both sets of wheels, that motor is gonna scream:thumbsup: videos please?
subscribed to this one for sure:goggles:
Thanks
Keith
Neil B
01-08-2014, 08:58 AM
WOW super nice car, liking both sets of wheels, that motor is gonna scream:thumbsup: videos please?
subscribed to this one for sure:goggles:
Thanks
Keith
Thanks. I am still building the motor, but I plan to video it on the dyno in the coming months. Here are the specs on the new motor.
GM Performance Bow-Tie Sportsman Block (4.125 bore)
Callies crankshaft (3.48 stroke)
Oliver 4340 rods
JE pistons (13.5:1 compression)
Cam Motion solid roller (268/
[email protected])
Canfield 218cc heads full CNC-ported with additional hand blending by Nelson Competition Engines
Crower severe-duty lifters with HIPPO
Jesel Sportsman shaft rockers
Wilson Manifolds Victor Jr. intake
ATI balancer
Cloyes double-roller timing chain and quick button cover
Melling oil pump with Moroso pan and pickup
I'm still deciding on a carb for it.
Neil B
04-08-2014, 07:35 AM
The motor is coming together now. The long block is complete. I'm currently setting up the shaft rockers and waiting for pushrods. Still need to decide on a carb.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Motor_zps90542262.jpg
tubbed69
04-08-2014, 07:43 AM
Car looks real nice,really like the wheels and stance:thumbsup:
fleetus macmullitz
04-08-2014, 10:52 AM
Car looks real nice,really like the wheels and stance:thumbsup:
X2. :thumbsup:
Waitin' to hear that mouse make some noise too. :cool:
Jay Hilliard
04-08-2014, 01:33 PM
Love the new wheels. Nice engine build. For carb, Im thinking Holley HP Ultra 850 minimum. Maybe new dominator?
Flash68
04-08-2014, 03:01 PM
Killer car and motor! Love it. :thumbsup:
intocarss
04-08-2014, 05:35 PM
:gitrdun: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Track Junky
04-08-2014, 05:43 PM
Yup!! :thumbsup:
Neil B
07-10-2014, 07:28 PM
I had some delays with parts, but the motor is finally finished and heading to the dyno next Tuesday.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/FinishedEngine1_zps17a9f821.jpeg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/FinishedEngine2_zps964b14a0.jpeg
WSSix
07-11-2014, 08:05 PM
oh preeeeety! be sure to post a dyno graph when it gets finished. Good luck!
Neil B
07-15-2014, 01:16 PM
We had a great day on the dyno today. The motor fired right up and made 564 hp on the first full pull. Best numbers of the day were 579 hp @ 7,000 rpm and 491 lb/ft @ 5,300 rpm. The best torque number was 497.5 lb/ft @ 5,300 rpm and 574 hp @ 6,800 rpm with slightly less timing. The motor made 390 lb/ft all the way down at 3,000 rpm so I was pretty happy with that. It didn't leak a drop of oil either. We probably could have hit 600hp with a carb spacer and some dyno only timing/jetting, but I didn't see the point.
If you guys have never been to an engine dyno, I highly recommend it!
Here's a video of one of the pulls...
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Flash68
07-16-2014, 12:51 AM
:_party: :beavis: :rockin:
WSSix
07-16-2014, 05:44 AM
Nice numbers! Love the engine sounds.
fleetus macmullitz
07-16-2014, 06:30 AM
#stoutMouse ...FTW. :thumbsup:
Neil B
07-16-2014, 09:01 AM
Video from outside the dyno cell...
http://youtu.be/nVaFa7zLiSU
Frankenstine
07-16-2014, 09:35 AM
Excellent dyno numbers, :confused59: nice motor for sure Neil B :thumbsup: where are you located at?
Thanks '
Keith
Neil B
07-16-2014, 01:47 PM
Excellent dyno numbers, :confused59: nice motor for sure Neil B :thumbsup: where are you located at?
Thanks '
Keith
I'm in Tampa, FL.
waynieZ
07-17-2014, 08:42 AM
Sweet ! Great numbers.
Neil B
08-20-2014, 06:39 AM
Here's the dyno sheet...
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/DynoSheet_zpse100f9cf.jpeg
Neil B
08-20-2014, 06:45 AM
I decided to run a McCleod RST twin disc clutch with a McCleod steel billet flywheel and a Silver Sport 621 bellhousing. The bellhousing indexed nicely with .005" total runout. I could not get the transmission mated up using the plastic alignment tool provided with the clutch. I ended up getting the Ram clutch alignment tool yesterday and it worked great. The pilot bearing nose on the tool was initially about .002 oversize and would not slide into the pilot bushing. About 30 seconds with some 400 grit sandpaper brought the tool down to size. I was able to install the floater, top disc, and pressure plate with the tool in place. With the Ram clutch tool, the transmission seated perfectly the first time.
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LS7 Z/28
08-20-2014, 07:10 AM
This car is so clean, I love the way it looks with your 2nd set of wheels.
There is really nothing cooler than high compression. What fuel will you be running? I assume your just looking at doing limited street cruising, or are you planning on running some time attack type events with the car?
Neil B
08-20-2014, 07:20 AM
This car is so clean, I love the way it looks with your 2nd set of wheels.
There is really nothing cooler than high compression. What fuel will you be running? I assume your just looking at doing limited street cruising, or are you planning on running some time attack type events with the car?
I agree. A compression motor just has that certain sound and feel to it. I will be running Sunoco 110. AED built the carb to use that fuel and that's what we dyno'd it on. There's actually a local station here that carries it at the pump. This is just a limited street car - less than 500 miles per year.
LS7 Z/28
08-20-2014, 07:23 AM
I agree. A compression motor just has that certain sound and feel to it. I will be running Sunoco 110. AED built the carb to use that fuel and that's what we dyno'd it on. There's actually a local station here that carries it at the pump. This is just a limited street car - less than 500 miles per year.
Awesome! 110 at the pump. Do you live in Heaven???
Neil B
08-20-2014, 08:07 AM
Awesome! 110 at the pump. Do you live in Heaven???
The name of the gas station is Racin' Gas. Lol.
https://foursquare.com/v/racin-gas/4d86734e5ad3a0938aacf9fd
tubbed69
08-20-2014, 11:38 AM
Very nice setup,motor sounds great with big numbers too:thumbsup:
Neil B
12-23-2014, 08:33 AM
Hey guys, we delayed putting the motor in the car this year for good cause. The exciting news is that the swap will be televised on one of the cable TV automotive how-to shows. Filming is scheduled for end of January but I do not have an air date yet. More details to follow.
WSSix
12-23-2014, 12:17 PM
Congrats, Neil! Be sure to give us the details when you can.
waynieZ
12-23-2014, 04:44 PM
That's sweet Neil, keep us in the loop!
tubbed69
12-23-2014, 07:08 PM
That's sweet Neil, keep us in the loop!
Please let us know when it's airing.
grendel
12-24-2014, 08:05 AM
I went for a DZ inspired motor, too. RPM and Compression can be a lot of fun in this style car ;).
Neil B
12-29-2014, 07:31 AM
My car is a non-gauge, non-console car but I wanted to be able to monitor the new engine. I made this panel in the ashtray location and was able to do it without drilling any holes or cutting any existing wiring. I originally wanted to put the gauges inside the ashtray so I could close it up but there simply wasn't enough room for 2 gauges.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/GaugePanel_zps64bfa6c6.jpeg
WSSix
12-29-2014, 06:52 PM
That was a great idea. Come out looking nice, too.
Neil B
12-29-2014, 07:52 PM
I tended to some small odds and ends today. I made a coil bracket to put the coil in the stock location to avoid holes in the firewall, etc. It clears the air cleaner base by about 1/8". I plan to use the stock throttle linkage, return spring, and wire separator (which attaches to the back manifold bolts). It's tough making everything fit like stock.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/CoilBracket_zpsd23bb500.jpeg
The flywheel dust shield required significant trimming to work with the 1 piece rear seal oil pan. But the starter is a really nice piece.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Starter_zps053dc100.jpeg
waynieZ
12-29-2014, 09:30 PM
Coming along nice!
Neil B
01-07-2015, 09:28 AM
The new headers arrived yesterday. I decided to upgrade from my old Hooker 2131 Super Comps to the new Hooker 2105-7HKR. These are 304 stainless and offer much better ground clearance, better exhaust port alignment, and O2 sensor bungs. Plenty of room around the plugs with my angle plug heads.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Headers_zps1a2abcd7.jpeg
Flash68
01-07-2015, 11:41 AM
Cool stuff Neil.
What are the before and after primary & collector sizes on the Hookers?
Neil B
01-07-2015, 12:47 PM
Cool stuff Neil.
What are the before and after primary & collector sizes on the Hookers?
No change. 1 3/4" primary to 3" collector for both the 2131's and the 2105's. But Hooker does make a stepped version 1 3/4" to 1 7/8" to 3.5" collector. The 2105's line up perfect with my big exhaust ports. I did not intend to upgrade the headers but then an exhaust company came on board with the build/show, so the only thing left from the old motor was the headers. LOL.
Neil B
01-07-2015, 12:51 PM
I went with a Ron Davis radiator and fan setup and it should be here in a couple weeks.
http://www.rondavisradiators.com/67-69-BBC-Camaro-aluminum-r.jpg
Neil B
01-08-2015, 07:49 AM
I'm no fabricator, but I spent more time than I care to admit getting everything to fit the way I wanted to on the back side of the intake. The stock throttle rod will pass just to the left of the coil and the vacuum line to the brake booster will tie into the custom bung on the backside of the runner.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Backofmotor_zps22fa846b.jpeg
waynieZ
01-08-2015, 09:12 AM
It looks good.
Neil B
01-15-2015, 06:42 AM
I did a test fit on the new headers. Good clearance everywhere so far.
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Neil B
01-19-2015, 08:46 AM
Nothing left to do put re-prime it and check the valve lash. The car goes to the production facility tomorrow. I will let everyone know about the show details and air dates as soon as possible.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/EngineCompleteFrontTop_zpscdbe0ed1.jpeg
Neil B
01-20-2015, 07:24 AM
The car is on the set! I'm excited to tell you that the engine swap will be performed on the Velocity Channel's show called Car Fix. Jared and Lou will be turning the wrenches. Filming will occur next week for Episode 1 of this season. Air date will be sometime in March.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Ontheset2_zps7a71fdff.jpg
tmadden
01-20-2015, 06:01 PM
That's cool
WSSix
01-21-2015, 07:15 AM
awesome, Neil!
Justin@EntropyRad
01-21-2015, 11:08 AM
With bigger wheels, comes bigger Aero??:y0!:
Neil B
01-22-2015, 09:30 AM
With bigger wheels, comes bigger Aero??:y0!:
I doubt I'll do much to the body. It's just a cruiser.
Neil B
01-29-2015, 11:52 AM
Hey guys, we finished filming the episode today. The entire production crew was awesome and made us feel very welcome. Stay tuned to Velocity and watch for the new season to begin in March!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/CarFix1_zpsbdb88ad6.jpeg
waynieZ
01-29-2015, 03:38 PM
Sweet I'll be watching for that to air.. That's a sweet looking Motor! I forgot to say how much I like what you did for the gauges in the ash tray area.
Neil B
01-29-2015, 05:11 PM
Sweet I'll be watching for that to air.. That's a sweet looking Motor! I forgot to say how much I like what you did for the gauges in the ash tray area.
Thanks!
rocketman
01-29-2015, 06:07 PM
sweet Camaro love the color
GregWeld
01-29-2015, 06:15 PM
Not sure how I missed this -- but WAY KOOL Neil!!
Motor is pure sweetness.... and the TV thing is icing on the cake. Good for you!
Neil B
01-29-2015, 06:47 PM
Not sure how I missed this -- but WAY KOOL Neil!!
Motor is pure sweetness.... and the TV thing is icing on the cake. Good for you!
Thanks Greg. It was a really neat opportunity.
p51mus
01-30-2015, 12:46 AM
18x8 and 19x9.5 Forgeline ZX3Rs. I've had them for a couple of years now.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Side-1.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/NeilB_photos/media/Side-1.jpg.html)
DUDE I REALLT LIKE YUOR CAR!!!!
Neil B
01-30-2015, 06:01 AM
DUDE I REALLT LIKE YUOR CAR!!!!
Thank you!
What pulleys and alternator bracket do you have?
Nice wheels and a badass small block.
Neil B
02-01-2015, 06:46 AM
What pulleys and alternator bracket do you have?
Nice wheels and a badass small block.
March Performance makes the bracket and pulleys. I got them in black powder coat finish. The bracket was not designed to work with the CS130 alternator I wanted to run, so I had to modify it.
Neil B
03-15-2015, 06:40 PM
Hey guys, just a quick update on the TV show. The episode will premiere on Saturday, March 28th at 11am eastern.
http://www.velocity.com/tv-shows/tv-schedule/
Neil B
03-24-2015, 09:19 AM
I’m excited to tell you that a new episode of the TV show CAR FIX will premiere this Saturday, March 28th at 11am eastern on the Velocity Channel. As part of the episode, hosts Jared and Lou perform a beautiful job swapping a new engine and transmission into my ’69 Z28. We also have some fun racing a C7 Corvette Stingray at an Ocala, FL airstrip.
Due to some recent health challenges, what makes this show so important to me is that the producer allowed us to incorporate a very special message to viewers about the importance of taking care of themselves. My hope is that these efforts will help create a new avenue of hope and awareness for people on a broad scale.
I would like to thank the numerous people and businesses that assisted with their services and expertise to make this project a success, including AED Performance, Auto Gear, Brenton Productions, Engine Lab, Holley Performance Products, Magnaflow, Marja Blitz, NBS Fabrication, Nelson Competition, Ron Davis Radiators, United Speed World and Wannagofast.
The show is also scheduled to air on Sunday, March 29th at 11am eastern, Friday, April 3rd at 7pm eastern and then periodically throughout the year.
I hope you enjoy the show!
waynieZ
03-24-2015, 09:45 AM
That's great Neil, I'll be watching for it!
Neil B
05-08-2015, 11:39 AM
Hey guys, the show has been televised a few times now. Here are some pics from the production. What a great experience all the way around!
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DKz Garage
05-08-2015, 12:09 PM
This is so cool..... Always loved the white and red interior combo, very classy. You/your car are now officially famous!
DavidBoren
05-08-2015, 12:22 PM
Sweet car/motor. It's sad that you only plan to drive it 500 miles per year. Something like this needs to be on the street.
Neil B
05-08-2015, 12:28 PM
Sweet car/motor. It's sad that you only plan to drive it 500 miles per year. Something like this needs to be on the street.
It'll likely be more based on the rate I'm currently using it! LOL. It's a beast!
Neil B
05-15-2015, 07:52 AM
I'm still working on fine tuning the AED 950 carb with a wideband, but I gotta say I'm surprised at how docile and smooth the motor is. I can putt this thing around town in 4th gear at 2,200 rpm. It makes 8 inches of vacuum at idle and the power brakes work fine (as does the PCV system). It's just not something you'd expect from 14:1 compression,
[email protected] solid roller motor.
So here's the next round of upgrades... I was very impressed with the fitment of the Hooker 2105 headers so I decided to try Hooker's complete 3" stainless exhaust system. Hooker even makes headpipe adapters to their headers so this should be as close to a direct bolt-in as you can get. I'm not a big fan of absorption-style mufflers, so I ordered a custom set of stainless Spintech mufflers for my install. As soon as everything gets here, we'll see how it all fits up.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Hooker%20box_zps4sgsba9l.jpeg
Neil B
05-26-2015, 12:44 PM
My SpinTech mufflers arrived today. I had them custom made in 304 stainless with 5 spin traps instead of the normal 6 traps. Some of the baffling on the side of the muffler casing was also left out. This should put the sound level somewhere between a Sportsman muffler and a Pro Street muffler design. I went with the Sportsman case size to match the size of the Hooker V304 mufflers that came with the exhaust system. The overall muffler length and inlet/outlet offset of the two muffler designs is identical so they should bolt right up. The Hooker mufflers are also very nicely constructed, but I had my heart set on a chambered-style exhaust note.
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Moose
05-26-2015, 01:45 PM
hope the spin techs work out for you.. mine didnt.. fell apart after 2 years.
Flash68
05-26-2015, 01:46 PM
Neil I bet that's gonna sound TOUGH! Love the Spintechs... had have 2 sets and love the sound. Definitely unique sound.
Neil B
05-26-2015, 01:54 PM
hope the spin techs work out for you.. mine didnt.. fell apart after 2 years.
How did yours fall apart? Mine appear to be of high quality and are very ruggedly built.
WSSix
05-26-2015, 04:35 PM
So glad to hear you're enjoying the car. It's a sweet build. Good luck with the upgrades!
DavidBoren
05-27-2015, 07:27 AM
I bet that will sound superb when all hooked up. The Spintechs really do line up with the other ones, should be an easy enough swap. Can't wait to hear that thing.
Frankenstine
05-28-2015, 07:02 AM
Congrats Neil, hope you will do a walk around Vid with this beast running with the Spin Tech's or a drive by Vid ?
:gitrdun:
Neil B
06-01-2015, 08:50 PM
Congrats Neil, hope you will do a walk around Vid with this beast running with the Spin Tech's or a drive by Vid ?
:gitrdun:
Will do. Still waitin' on parts and I'm out of town for work for until mid-June.
Neil B
07-12-2015, 06:23 PM
I finally got the 3" exhaust system bolted up today. The fit of the system is excellent and was a 100% bolt-on effort. No cutting, no drilling, no welding. All I did was dress the ends of the pipes and expand a few of the joints a bit. It basically fell into place. I still need to take a drive and final align the clamps. I'm still debating whether or not to put a 45 degree cut on the tailpipe exit. Nice work Hooker!
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http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150517_123201_zps4dfc49e4.jpg
Ron in SoCal
07-13-2015, 08:15 AM
Yes, 45s I think Neil. Also, we need a sound clip with those spintechs and 3 inchers!
:cheers:
Edit: what are those bushings?
Neil B
07-13-2015, 08:47 AM
Yes, 45s I think Neil. Also, we need a sound clip with those spintechs and 3 inchers!
:cheers:
Edit: what are those bushings?
Sound clips to follow! The bushings are the Hooker-supplied tailpipe hangers/isolators. Everything bolts up to existing holes which was a requirement for my build.
Flash68
07-13-2015, 08:54 AM
Spintech is a great choice for that engine Neil. Can't wait to hear it sing.
And for your car and theme I would leave the tips as is. Looks great.
Ron in SoCal
07-13-2015, 08:58 AM
Sound clips to follow! The bushings are the Hooker-supplied tailpipe hangers/isolators. Everything bolts up to existing holes which was a requirement for my build.
Ahh, roger that. Subframe connectors in your future or did I miss them?
Neil B
07-13-2015, 09:25 AM
Ahh, roger that. Subframe connectors in your future or did I miss them?
I've agonized over this. I really, really don't want to drill or weld on the car. I don't plan to launch the car or put sticky tires on it, but some type of additional structure under there sure would be nice. I've seen some cars start to crack where the rear quarter meets the roof at the corner of the side window, and I don't want this to happen on mine.
Ron in SoCal
07-13-2015, 09:42 AM
I've agonized over this. I really, really don't want to drill or weld on the car. I don't plan to launch the car or put sticky tires on it, but some type of additional structure under there sure would be nice. I've seen some cars start to crack where the rear quarter meets the roof at the corner of the side window, and I don't want this to happen on mine.
On my last 68 with 425hp the whole car would torque twist off the line. Check out Hotchkis or Global West. Pretty sure those are minimally invasive.
Neil B
07-15-2015, 06:33 AM
I got everything tidied up last night. I'm really happy with how this turned out for a bolt-on system. I promise at least some cold start idle video later today.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150715_091018_zps406e283a.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150715_090945_zps1971d99a.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150715_091039_zps9987afa7.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150715_091057_zpsed171ed8.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150715_091240_zps3d82bd7e.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150715_091403_zps8c157987.jpg
Neil B
07-19-2015, 08:52 PM
Here's a couple quick cell phone videos of the car warming up. It doesn't do the sound of the car justice. The Spin Tech's are definitely not for the faint of heart.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/th_Warm%20Up_zpsdt6swu7p.mp4 (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Warm%20Up_zpsdt6swu7p.mp4)
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/th_1437358019_zps5060d2d6.mp4 (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/1437358019_zps5060d2d6.mp4)
Neil B
07-19-2015, 10:46 PM
Here is the cold start idle video.
https://youtu.be/z1JLqpJwVyE
Flash68
07-19-2015, 11:42 PM
Ya big tease!! Not one stinkin little blip? :D
Neil B
07-20-2015, 06:36 AM
Ya big tease!! Not one stinkin little blip? :D
LOL. I'll get some more footage soon, but my neighbors needed a break yesterday.
OLDFLM
07-20-2015, 07:20 AM
Sounds great! What did you decide about the tailpipes?
I vote for the 45* cut even with the bottom of the quarter...
Neil B
07-20-2015, 07:53 AM
Sounds great! What did you decide about the tailpipes?
I vote for the 45* cut even with the bottom of the quarter...
I'm still not sure. I wanted to get better clearances on the left side tailpipe, so I made a bracket to relocate it a bit. Moving the tailpipe affects the tip angles, so I want to lock down the tailpipe positioning before I cut anything. I park my daily driver under the Camaro on the lift so the tailpipes are front and center every time I come and go from the garage. This would be soooo much easier if I were willing to drill new holes in the car. LOL.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150719_162845_zps741f6e7a.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/NeilB_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20150719_175309_zps6410032c.jpg
Frankenstine
07-20-2015, 11:25 AM
DAUM RITE NEIL, that is pure music, sounds great:king: :D MY .02 cents on the pipes, Def cut them Need more vids of this thing running out side running OR a drive by????
Thanks
Keith
Neil B
07-22-2015, 11:39 AM
Still waiting for some dry roads, but I thought this was an interesting comparison:
Engine 1: DZ302, 11:1 compression, 170cc heads, 248/
[email protected] solid flat tappet, 1 3/4 headers, 2.5" exhaust with h-pipe, Flowmaster 80 series cross-flow muffler.
https://youtu.be/G99ba3B7sWs
Engine 2: DZ372, 14:1 compression, 218cc heads, 268/
[email protected] solid roller, 1 3/4 headers, 3" exhaust with x-pipe, SpinTech mufflers.
https://youtu.be/z1JLqpJwVyE
The new motor is definitely louder in real life, but to me they sound nearly the same even though every single part from carb to tailpipe has been changed.
waynieZ
07-22-2015, 04:43 PM
They both sound Sweet!
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